Ciudad Juarez - 2003 Reports

[Dougie]

>Ivette is the only provider that I see at Consuelo.

Yes, she is the one alright. I think she is very pretty in the face and not built too bad either. Although DE would probably not like her because he likes them skinny as a toothpick. ;^) And Consuelo's is one of the $400 peso places, whereas most of the others are $300 pesos now.

Villa Del Mar is pretty good, but i think Mariscos de Mazatlan is a better deal and it is practically next door. Try the Camaron al Ajo one of these days, but only if you like garlic and do it AFTER your mongering, not before. The girls don't appreciate extreme garlic breath. If you want a steak try El Toro Bronco one of these days, right down the road from Villa Del Mar and Mariscos de Mazatlan, and they have some of the best steaks you will ever eat anywhere. They are every bit as good as El Herradero if not better, but slightly more expensive.

[RearWindow]

de,

her name does indeed start with one of those letters.

back in november, nijoel posted about a spiked drink at a bar in el centro,but didn't know the name. his description was dead on, it's irma's, just south of ano nuevo, on the same street. that was the first bar i ever went to in juarez, and i remembered the layout but not the name. serious drugs going down there.

epg, i have had the same reaction to gifts as you. they are very pleased,and you never do see it again. very odd. i brought a gift from my pueblo for an amiga, a necklace and a bath/perfume set. met with her the next day, and no necklace. i ask why she's not wearing it, and she says it's so pretty that she keeps it out so she can look at it. good enough for me, i guess.

that day i took her to the mall, and we shopped for christmas clothes for her ninos. she wanted nothing for herself, even though i know she could use something, like a coat or gloves (she's always cold) and as much as i tried to convince her, she demurred. the kids will be cute for a very important holiday, and if that brightens her days then my holiday got so much better.

sorry about the rep001tered posting here, some days the mind moves in mysterious ways, and this last trip was a flurry of thoughts and feelings unlike any other trip before it.

merry christmas to all.

[ElPasoGentleman]

Well put, DE, and a tribute that will generate a bunch of hugs and chocolate cookies this fine Christmas season, I am sure!

Your comment regarding "don't expect them to kiss your ass if you DO give the something nice" struck a cord.

I have learned many years ago not to expect too much from anyone while at the same time not letting this attitude lead to bitter wine when "dining" with strangers or friends. Give and forget. About 1 1/2 years ago, which was about two weeks after meeting my chica, I bought her a $53 gold plated (wow!) ankle bracelet while visiting in Chicago.

I gave it to her; she accepted it with not much fanfare - and that's what I really expected. Furthermore, I never saw the bracelet again. But at that point when she accepted my gift, she accepted it as a gift. And that was that. I respected her, believe it or not, for NOT putting on a gushy "oh that's so beautiful", etc. etc. I don't care where the bracelet is or where it went. I gave, she accepted and it was beautiful for the moment. I am so fortunate to be with her.

EPG

[DreamingEagle]

If her name starts with an "M" or a "C" I know what you mean. Sergio has a way of attracting a few girls of real class...I can't forget either one of them either and tend to go back and forth week after week, both of them knowing I just selected the other one. Makes for a very interesting encounter each time. But I think I am about to settle on "C", much as I like "M".

Not that either one of them would care much since they are paid by the week and not by the customer, and since in their minds I am just a very nice guy they both like personally who happens to be friends with the owner of the place.

They have lives so far distant from what goes on in the MP you would not even believe, both of them. They can enjoy their sexual encounter with you---no matter how good---and forget you in a week. Would it be any different if the circumstances of your life had led you yourself to be a prostitute?

The economic circumstances which lead the girls in Juarez to sell their bodies to you for a few dollars no doubt lead up to bad decisions made in Mexico City, but whatever the orgin of this situation it is totally beyond them to either comprehend or change.

Girls in Mexico don't have thoughts about the geopolitical realities which lead to their situation. They have a couple of little kids at home who want to be fed and get something for Christmas. That's where her mind is...

You guys who frequent el centro have tales to tell of girls on drugs who don't give a shit about anything beyond their next high, but the girls in the MPs are pretty much family girls. Not every girl in el centro fits into the category I just put them in, but most do. Some of the girls in the MPs fall into that category, but 99 percent of them do not. Personally, I like to be putting my arms around a decent person as well as a hot young girl I want to get it on with.

I have a big box of gourmet chocolate cookies I was given at work today. I will be seeing Sergio next week and will leave them for the girls at MP Marilyn. They will kiss me on the cheek and thank me. And that's about what life is like for them---some guy leaving chocolate cookies or a $20 tip, while nothing changes and they grow older and less able to attract us.

It's very un-mongerly of me to say so, but I hope on some Christmas week in the future I drive into Ciudad Juarez and find them all no longer available to any man with thirty dollars in his pocket. I would rather jack off than see "M" and "C" going on being prostitutes, for they are both too good for that.

But I don't have to jack off. They will be there. I will bring chocolate cookies, and we will leave them nice tips when they please us, until just a few years from now they are replaced by the next generation of the Mexican nation's youth served up to us. This is just the cruel reality which exists here in Mexico.

I'm not against mongering. They are there, offering up the flower of their youth for our pleasures and eager to have our business. We cannot be faulted for they would be worse off without our money.

But it's Christmas, and I just hope every man here will give a little thought to all the suffering and misery of millions of people which has led up to his shining moment with one of these girls, especially when it truly is a shining moment. So often, you are touching a girl who, in our world, would be going to college and driving a hot car and having nothing to do with you.

Don't call me a bleeding heart liberal. I'm a liberal without any bleedin' heart. It is the way God made the world. Just pause for a second at the border, as I am sure you already do, and ask yourself why things must be this way. No one can look at the little line of water at the border and not realize what a great dividing line it is for everyone born on either side of it.

Let your mongering come from your heart with some sense of compassion for the girl who is making your dreams come true. Give her gourmet chocolates and a nice tip. Never do anything second class for a Mexican person who has won your affection, for second class is all that person has ever known. Don't expect them to kiss your ass when you give them something better either, because they won't. You could give her a diamond ring, and she will just look at it and wonder where the trick is, because tricks is all anyone has ever offered her. Until she trusts you, she's about as as tough as M-1 armor, and you would be, too, having lived her life.

Just smile to realize she will never think of you as just some pinche gringo, but someone who touched her heart. The vast geopolitical problems which make her a ***** and you a customer are beyond the control of both of you.

She is not so stupid she does not realize these things, so a little chocalate along the way, a nice tip, a big smile, and hug----they all serve to give back to her a little the self-esteem she gives up every day having to spread her legs for any man with thirty dollars.

You can't change the world. But you can change her world just a little bit for the better by being a real human being with her. Just throw out all of the stereotypes about what she is dong and just be you. You might just be holding the nicest person you ever met.

God bless every single person on this earth, black, white, yellow, red, and brown. The same sun and moon rises and sets above us all. I just hope here at Christmas time we can all hope the best for our lovely amigas in Ciudad Juarez. I think we can wish they never had to become *****s, be glad they are, hope they are not one day, and love them all the same time. I know I can. It's a complex formula of morality, but the only one that seems to fit here in this complex world on the border.

We found it this way, so all we can do it be decent people when we cross south for our pleasures...leave a few gourmet cookies and big hugs behind us...perhaps a better legacy than the mongers who came before us.

At least, I sure hope so.

Merry Christmas to all of you!

[Mugroso]

RearWindow. I WILL NOT give a name (learned from Mugrosos plight)
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Plight? What plight? If you are refering to MariLu and skinny Santa Claus, that is a non internet situation. However, MariLu did tell me once of a customer who said he had heard about her on the net. She wasn't angry with me as I denied any knowledge of such things and she wasn't even mad about anything. She was just kind of disturbed by having clients come monkey fuck her (me) and post it on the net. I told her, "well, more clients". She laughed. Situation resolved.

But just a quick word. Lets fuck these girls and talk about them but be discreet in their presence. Lets not mention to them about this place the internet. We must stick together on this guys.

[RearWindow]

Well, I'm back from Juarez and suffering withdrawal as usual.

Visited a few of my amigas, but was disappointed that a few were noticably absent, most notably Letty (the wild haired one at Casa). In previous posts I had referenced her as "head full of snakes", and after a few times with her I will humbly take all of that back.

And while I am being apologetic, I broke custom and went to MP Marilyns. I WILL NOT give a name (learned from Mugrosos plight), but was with a girl that I cannot get out of my head.Everything worked, and I even went back to see her before my flight out of ELP.She was kinda mortified that I was seeing her without makeup the second time, but I found her to be as beautiful sin make-up as con.

DE - I wish you the best. Hang in there. I've had a few scares again in the last year, and I can relate to your thoughts right now.

[DreamingEagle]

No, they dont, but it didn't take a genius, which I'm not, to figure you were wishing me well...and thanks. Things are fine.

Will talk to you guys when I get back from Mx on the 5th of January.

[Border Rat]

jk = just kidding. That was sarcasm about your contributions here, of course. Voice inflections and intonations don't translate well in print

[DreamingEagle]

"Dreaming Eagle: Sorry to hear about your illness. Hope it all works out for you. Maybe it was just bad karma for you never posting any relevant info on this site...jk. Good luck to you."

Yeah, right...does jk mean 'joke'?

Seriously, having skin cancer is great. They just cut it off and you have nothing to worry about for another couple of years... Just be sure you keep your insurance in force.

[Sun Devil]

Yes, I believe I got off really lucky with my police experience, since I have heard that if you're a gringo and you're thrown in jail, the Mexican inmates will take your stuff, such as your shoes, and beat the crap out of you. Anyway, if I had been found guilty by the female, I would have paid the fine of $100 to get out of jail.

As for the reason why I decided to go to Consuelo that night, I wanted to go with Ivette that night (yes, she spells her name that way) and then check out the Rio Grande Mall afterwards, such as seeing a movie or going Christmas shopping, or grab something to eat somewhere in that part of town, such as Sanborns or Villa Del Mar. I didn't want to take the bus since it would have taken longer to get there from the border and my time was already short.

Ivette is the only provider that I see at Consuelo. I think she has lost weight since I first started seeing her. She indeed grew up in the US, Washington state, and apparently was deported back to the Mexico. She would not specify as to the reasons why.

[Mugroso]

Well I just couldn't resist myself. I went to Juarez last night, made the rounds. Las Palmeras was hopping. Lots of chicas and some cuties even. The Montaña was a big dispappointment, dead. So I am making my way up hitting all the bars. Año Nuevo was so so. Noche y Dia was alright. Las Vegas was good. Lots of cuties but also lots of cold eyes. So I left.

What is it I couldn't resist? I just had to go to Queens. I was gonna get another chica besides Marilu, maybe I was gonna get Jessie or who knows who, I was open for anything. If you recall from a previous post I have given up on Marilu because I saw skinny Santa Claus leaving the rooms with Marilu.

Well I walk in and there she is wearing stocking and garter. Oh shit. I am nuts for stockings. So I bought her a drink. I am getting hornier by the minute and I tell her, "lets go". Damn it, she tells me she is on the rag. Why do women dress sexy during this time of the month guys? So I tell her maybe she can just dance for me in the room. I was hoping to shoot for a least a blowjob.

We get up there and I trip out when she took off her tanga and then realizing she is using a pussy plug. Ok. She starts dancing and licking me up and down during the dance. I couldn't take it any more and my head was so cloudy from horniness. I slip on a rubber and start dancing her from behind standing up. I try to push in inspite of the tampoon. She laughs and tells me I can't go in cuz of the tampoon. So I say, "por aqui", right here while pressing on her asshole with my cock. She says no but I tell her to get doggie on the bed and I spit on her asshole and slide it in. Judgeing by her squeal it may have been her first time. Well finally I have gotten this chica by the asshole. I am not into this shit but sometimes a chica just gets my all horny and shit. Those stocking weren't much of a help either.

Well because of the skinny Santa Claus situation this has to be the last time I fuck Marilu. I am going to have to avoid Queens Place from now on as I am a sucker for stocking and knowing she is now armed with a black pair of these, it is essential that I follow through on this.

Till next time guys.

[Border Rat]

Nice read there, SunDevilRN. I couldn't help but admire the way you saw the glass as half full. It would be too easy to view all those Mexican guys that called the cops on you as being racist and anti-US. I assure you that a Mexican in your situation would not have had any problems and the cops would not have been called. You know those guys had a great laugh when they hauled you off. I would have split the scene ASAP, as I usually do in Mexico, as us gringos rarely find justice down there. I'm glad you had a happy ending to your story, though. Don't lose that great attitude. It will serve you well.

Like EPG referred to, we are all representatives of the US, whether we want to be or not. I used to thrive in that role when I was younger traveling abroad. When the locals would say "You're a good guy, not like those other Americanos." To me that was the greatest compliment I could get from them and it gave them hope that not all U.S. things were bad. Now, I have resigned from the role of US Goodwill Ambassador. Maybe it was Mexico that did it. I don't know. I just cannot please those people. It seems to take way too much work to turn my pinche gringo self into buena gente down there.

One last thought about latinas to keep this post on topic. SunDevilRN had mentioned about that provider lying to him. In my experience with latinas, they all lie. I've had many latina GF's on both sides of the border, from virgins to pro's, and they all will look you in they eyes and lie to you. They would rather tell you a lie than tell you something you don't want to hear. It's about not wanting to disappoint you and about saving face. The positive spin on this is that they are usually really awful at lying. A good liar will actually believe the lie, but these girls have short memories and will usually tell on themselves within a few days. To me, deceit is unacceptable in any relationship. This explains why I was stalking SW's by the gymnasio last weekend...lol.

Happy mongering to all...BR.

Dreaming Eagle: Sorry to hear about your illness. Hope it all works out for you. Maybe it was just bad karma for you never posting any relevant info on this site...jk. Good luck to you.

[El Gringo 1]

Hi to all of the mongers,

I will be in Juares during X'mas. It will be my first time. Is this a right time to be there?
What do you recommend?

Thanks to all the postings, which are very informative.

Happy Holidays.

El Gringo 1.

[Bachelor Warrior]

Just had a thought that might be of interest. It's interesting to me anyway. And that is, that in places such as the Pink Lady and Casa Colorado, I have run into at least 5 different pairs of sisters! And they really don't look anything like each other either. Just something to factor into your planning. Sometimes I've refused to buy a girl a drink. Then a month or two later when I'm back in the place, I'll be sitting and drinking with a gal and she'll say how come you wouldn't buy my sister a drink when you were here before?

[ElPasoGentleman]

Enjoyed your report, Dougie. I can relate to it real well. My silver hair and blue eyes get a lot of attention when I go shopping at SMart with my girlfriend's daughters. They cling to me and hold my hand, etc. The 13 year old will thrust her arm around mine and cling to me. Quite frankly, I love the attention from the girls - but I'd rather be more anonymous with the folks in the store.

What the hell - we are ambassadors and Piece Corps volunteers from las estados unitos - as long as we don't get our asses thrown in jail too often or a knife slicing off our finger. You will note, I wrote "Piece" not "Peace" - although they may be both one and the same. I like "Peace" and I sure like those "Pieces" of ass!

Hey, go with the flow when you have to.

EPG