Ciudad Juarez - 2003 Reports

[BigBuddy]

Bubbagoes,

I remember reading the discussion. You might want to ask about it on the Viagra thread. Someone might have an answer. All I did was go to my regular Dr and tell him I didn't want to go into a long explanation but could he give me a prescrition for viagra. He didn't ask any questions and gave me a prescription for 10 100mg and I can get 2 refills between now and November. It was no bid deal.

Those eternal questions are a *****. If you'll answer why when I get hit on by a regular chick I'm usually not interested and I'll tell you why you always see a better looking one on the way out.

[BubbaGoes]

Some time back we had a discussion about Indian Viagra through the generics online pharmacy. I had purchased Indian Viagra in SE Asia and it had worked quite well so I made an order. The pills that I just received are a light blue color versus the orange colored ones that I had previously purchsed overseas, and in my opinion, aren't as effective. Are there other Indian sources?

How come you always see a better looking one on the way out?

[DreamingEagle]

Nope, but it sounds like another Ernesto & Son enterprise. They also have Musa which is $20, and I guess they are opening a new one. I'll check it out this weekend.

[BubbaGoes]

Went down to Juarez today on a tour of the MP's, started off at Felina's but the Mammasan wouldn't let me even talk to a girl till I paid my $30. I said no thank you and left, went to Corpus and had a decent time (my first time there). Felt that I had a little juice left so I walked on over to Brenda's (about 3 pm) and there were NO GIRLS!. Went to the other two by the Hotel Villa Manport and coudn't find what I wanted.
I did meet a guy when coming out of Brenda's that told me about a new MP, or that's what he said. A place called Novedades, corner of Ninos Heroes and Pananma L-11 (don't know what that means, maybe a suite number or something), $20. Any of you guys hear about it? Have to get there and check it out.

[DreamingEagle]

Every owner I've talked to says he opens at 9 or 10 a.m., but finding any selection until about 2 or 3 in the afternoon seems to be impossible. Besides, like all businesses in Mexico, they may say it's open on Sunday, and you show up and the door is locked because someone went to a baptism. Or the opening time is 11 a.m., but the guy just set the clock forward another hour to get some more sleep. I actually find this kind of refreshing, like the absence of computers in many places and not having to listen to menus and push buttons for ten minutes before you can talk to a human being when you call a business.

Another refreshing discovery was how easy it is to do business with the local merchants. When I show up wanting to put them on the internet on my new website, Juarez Tour Guide, and show them the pictures and give them a business card, even the best places like Mariscos d'Matazlan restaurant just open their arms and let me shoot photos and gather information. In the U.S. the manager would have to call his division manager, and the division manner would want me to write him a letter...sheesh, I can't wait to say goodbye to all of that once and for all and will be applying for my 3M (residency/work visa) in January.

Not that Mexico is perfect, because for most it's a hard life. But if you have a little business sense and even idiot Spanish a man can do well there. It's pretty wide open...

[Clomonger]

Thanks, DreamingEagle, for the additional comments. Seems like Brenda's would get a bit more business if they improved their signage just a bit! But perhaps they need to be discreet.

$45 was the last price that I had heard for Sirena's, so when she said $40, that sounded pretty good. But I overlooked the fact that bargaining is a way of life in Mexico, so I probably paid top dollar..by then the little head was doing too much of the thinking.

Are most of the MPs open by noon or so, even with a reduced number of providers? I found Juarez in the daytime to be quite enjobable...certainly non-threatening.

[DreamingEagle]

Next time you can walk to the very end of Avenida Juarez where it deadends into Vincente Guerrero and take a purple bus called the Circunvalacion which will let you out in front of Serinas. Brendas was in the little strip center on the left side of the street just before you get to the bank at the corner of Avenida de las Americas. It is upstairs on the left end of the strip center and does not have a sign.

You missing it is another reason why the "Men's Guide to Juarez" must come into being. All of the information is here on the forum, but I think guys need to have all of the options available in one three ring binder they can take with them, complete with maps, pictures of the outside of the MP. I am working on finishing the book and getting it on the internet as soon as I possibly can. It should be out there within 45-60 days.

Can't believe Serina's is back to that $40 nonsense. The average price now is $30 and many MPs such as Loryeds and Corpus have gone to $25. Brendas is only $20, $30 for two girls. To get to Corpus you could have just taken any bus which says "Hipermart" or "Futurama" on the front window and gotten off of the bus at V. Guerrero and Calle Peru and walked north one block on Peru. You would have seen a green three story building on your right at the next corner which houses Felinas ($35). If you had turned right at that corner and walked one more block you would have seen Corpus on your right ($25). Catching the bus back to el centro would have been a simply matter of continuing to walk north on Peru two more blocks until you got to 16 de Septiembre. All the buses going that way head back downtown, but you have to get off near Avenida Lerdo and walk a couple more blocks to Avenida Juarez, because most of them turn off before they get to Avenida Juarez.

Getting a GFE every time is kind of a matter of finding four or five favoritas. They really start taking a shine to you when you become a regular, which is hard to do I realize when you come infrequently and do not have the information you need to get around efficiently. But I'm glad you had a great time. Even though I am going to be selling this book I am always will to share what I know here on the WSG. It's not the information itself which will make the product worthwhile to you---but having it all together in one place so you can use it when you are actually there. Buena suerte en tu proximo viaje!

[Clomonger]

Found myself with a few free mid-day hours in El Paso. Found a decent looking lot on Santa Fe Street near the north bridge ($3 until 6PM) and walked across. My plan was to clear the congested area of downtown and then take a taxi to the Villa Manport Hotel on Hermanos Escobar at Panama, for MP exploration. However, I walk pretty quickly, and pretty soon I had covered enough ground that there were no taxis to be found. So I decided to walk to the Villa Manport...it took about 1/2 hour from the time I got across the bridge. Thanks to Crespo's posting of map references on 9-29-02, it was pretty easy to find my way around.

I walked further east, looking for Brenda's...one of Dreaming Eagle's recommendations. Found the corner of Hermanos Escobar and Avenida de Las Americas, but a thorough scan of the area revealed nothing about Brenda's or massage places. Further info would be appreciated.

Went back to the Villa Manport, nice looking hotel, which is on the south side of Hermanos Escobar. Found Sirena's on the north side of the street, marked by an inconspicuous sign on the door.

Went in, and the proprietress asked if I wanted a massage. I said yes, and asked what the charge would be. The response was $40 for 1 hour. (it was still a bit before noon). I asked whether this was "complete", and got a positive response. She summoned "Lily", who appeared to be the only masseuse working at that hour...trim, ~5'2", maybe early 20's, short reddish-black hair, nice rack. Paid the money and off we went through a maze of corridors to a very dark room. My Spanish is very limited, but I asked her if this would be "sin ropa" - no clothes, and she assured me that it was. (Actually, I intended to ask the proprietress this, but forgot). She was reluctant to kiss and not much touching....it didn't feel like this was going to be a GFE. I was left to undress while Lily went out to fire up some music and changed into a brief robe.


Massage was more like a back rub...and leg rub. Seemed to avoid touching my ass. I got bored after 10 minutes of this, I turned over...and said "sin ropa". She stripped....very nice body, so I my hands did some breast exploration as she was preparing to resume the "massage". The exploration revealed that Lily had recently become a mother.....Got Milk!

Massage resumed on my frontside, this time avoiding chest and legs....hey, that's the right area! I think she asked, "boca?" which means mouth, to which I agreed. However, in the language-limited discussion that followed, it was evident that if her mouth was going to become part of the action, so was a condom. Reasoning that a CBJ was better than no BJ, I eventually agreed....however, this discussion kinda took the starch out of the little head.

A long CBJ ensued, and through hand-motions, I got her to climb on top of me. However, despite her recent maternal status, she was so tight, (and the CBJ discussions left me somewhat limp), I couldn't get in, so we eventually resumed the CBJ to completion. I asked if I could shower, and she led me to a bathroom down the hall where I cleaned up. Got dressed, returned to the lobby, a brief peck on the check from Lily and out the door.

I got the feeling that Lily didn't want to be doing what she was doing....definitely not a GFE, but again, maybe she just didn't like me personally. Although the service wasn't great, I slipped her $5 on the way out.

It took less than 15 minutes to walk back to the bridge. Long lines of people waiting to go through immigration on the U.S. side, but I noticed that closest to the street, there was an area where buses would unload passengers to go through a separate immigration line. I went into the street and squeezed past a bus to get into that line, which only had a few people in it. Probably saved me 45 minutes of time. I flashed my ID and went back to the lot. I had been away from the car for less than 3 hours.

$3 parking, $40 MP, $5 tip....$48 plus a brisk walk to get the job done. No additional charge for the dairy products. Certainly worth doing again.

[DreamingEagle]

Regarding the strip bars in Juarez, they are incredibly expensive. I will give you a for instance. On my first trip down here over two years ago I walked into the Don't Touch Club on Triunfo de la Republica. I ordered a beer, and it was $5. A girl offered me a table dance for $12, which I accepted. She asked for a shot of tequila. Then drank a second one. I ordered another beer. The waiter announced the tequilla shots were $11 each! So, that's $44 the first 15 minutes. I tipped the waiter two dollars and got out of dodge and haven't been back. That's only one club, but I don't experiment with the strip bars anymore. Of course, if you are rolling in dough the girls were very pretty...

Regarding Juarez in general, I think there would be enough action in el centro to warrant a 6 hour drive. It's not TJ but you can find some really stunners in the ***** bars. If you have enough time read the old posts on the massage parlours. They are the best deal in town.

[1kabooki]

I am interested in the strip clubs in Juarez that have been mentioned (phantom, amadeus, joker). Would you recommend them over the El Paso clubs? More affordable?

Also, would you recommend taking a taxi there?

Thanks in advance.

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