Ciudad Juarez - 2003 Reports

[Bachelor Warrior]

Has anyone tried Cialis (sp?) as a Viagra alternative? It's supposedly called the weekend pill. Starts working within 30 - 45 minutes and has effects for 36 hours or so? I don't think it's available in the U.S., but you can get it in Mexico. I don't know what the price is.

[Bachelor Warrior]

In most places I've been, the waiter will take your $20, hold it up so you both can see it and say $20 in either English or Spanish. I you say Si, off he goes. They always bring back the right change. At least, I can't remember a time they didn't.

What they will do a lot is try to "hide" a dollar or so somewhere in the tray. Most of the time it's in change, but sometimes there's a dollar bill off to one side. It's pretty easy to overlook that money because it's so dark in these places. So I usually look pretty carefully. The money isn't an issue for me, I just hate to seem any stupider than I already do.

I tip the fellows in these places pretty well. Not to get any more loyalty especially, I still don't trust them. But because I figure they don't get that much; either respect or tips. Could be wrong. Anyway, they seem to appreciate it. Always get very good service, etc.

[Mugroso]

Clydesdale,

There was a girl at Queens I'd never seen before, Yvonne. She's petite, with a nice slim body.
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I am familiar with this chica. She is an "ex-girlfriend" of a friend. I have never had her in private but I have had very brief encounters with her. She has a very bad personality and is an unpleasant person. She is more than petite and slim. She is as skinny as an anorexic Ethiopian .

My friend says she had mental problems and is very self consious of her age, 33. Since I have been going to Queens, about 6 years now, she has always been there.

Just some information sharing from me. We all do have different results with chicas.

[DreamingEagle]

http://www.generics-online-pharmacy.com/

As far as I know, this is the cheapest Viagra available, only $40 for 16 100 mg tablets. It's an Indian company and the generic version takes about 6 weeks to arrive, but works just the same.

[Pierroth16]

Hello, everybody,

I usually buy Viagra in Mexico, but I will like to buy something else besides Viagra here in the USA. Does anyone know what and where can I buy them?

Thanx

[Clydesdale]

Watch out for this rip off which happened to me last night at Hollywood. You pay the waiter for a drink with a 20, he turns away, stuffs it up his sleeve, and turns back with a 1 in his hand and says you owe him more. Usually I pay for all drinks with ones, and count them out one at a time, this time I forgot. I wanted to beat the guy up and take my 20 back, but didn't want trouble. Another reason to stick with the MPs, but sometimes it's fun to watch the dancers.

There was a girl at Queens I'd never seen before, Yvonne. She's petite, with a nice slim body. She was pretty energetic at first, but after a while was in a hurry for me to finish. Overall - pretty good.

[Bachelor Warrior]

I had a conversation with a gringo truck driver in Juarez last night. At least I"m pretty sure he's a driver. This guy says he has been to ALL the Mexican border towns and Mexicali is the absolute best by far. I've never been there myself, but Country John's posts in the Mexicali section sure do seem to back up this claim.

[Bachelor Warrior]

There are two black, or partly black girls, that I know of in the Panama, Pink Lady, Casa Colorado area . Both seem a little taller than most of the girls. Both are slender and very good looking.

Lucero used to work at the Panama, but she's now at the Pink Lady. She's probably in her early to mid-30s. A great dresser, she has a great personality to go along with excellent bedroom skills. She's been in this line of work for quite a while.

The other gal goes by the name of Brittany I believe. I've seen her at the Casa Colorado. She's not as sharp a dresser as Lucero. I think she's quite a bit younger though. I would guess about 23 or 24 maximum. And I don't think she's been at the Casa very long. I've never been with her, so I don't know if she's cold or not.

I suppose the girls move around based on where their friends are, what kind of a deal the owner makes them, how popular the particular "club" seems to be at the time, etc. But it doesn't seem like the owners try very hard to keep the very special girls at their place. For instance, if I was the owner of the Panama I would definitely try to keep Lucero there. Or get her back. Of course, my guess of how popular a certain girl is could be wrong.

[Pimelonman]

Mugroso,

I saw Marilu at Queen's last night and laid the pipe into her. I was amazed at how incredibly tight she was. I paid her $46 plus bought her 4 beers at 5.50 a pop.

After Queen's I went to Fausto's and had a couple of Bud Lites. I cannot understand why the lighting is so poor in that place. You can barely see the dancers the place is so dim. The drinks for the girls are higher than any other bar in the area also. Maybe that is why there were only 3 customers in the bar.

My next stop was Noche Y Dia. They had a couple of cute ones in there. The one I was playing around with had an aroma of glue about her. No doubt she had ben sniffing that shit.

Jaurez just does not hold a candle to Bangkok or Manila.

[Country John]

Dreaming Eagle:

One of the bests posts I've ever read. You are right on the money.

I'm out of forum here but for those of you reading his post, know that my experiences bear out DE's post.

My posts will be in the Mexicali section and I could cut and paste a lot of DE's post but I just wanted to post here because I've taken great pains (and spent a lot of money) to research the scene (while doing the glam slam of course) to answer many of the issues addressed in DE's post.

Thanks again DE and good luck with the body - you licked it once mate, you can do it again. Keep us informed.

Be safe,

Country John

[DreamingEagle]

And thanks for the thoughts. They are just going to cut it out and life will get back to normal for a while, anyway.

[DreamingEagle]

Martin is perfectly trustworthy...

Here's a couple of coupons back from when I was going to do the Men's Guide.

http://www.juarez-mexico.com/Coupons/MarilynCoupon.JPG
http://www.juarez-mexico.com/Coupons/SirenaCoupon.jpg

[Bachelor Warrior]

Dreaming, I'm sure everyone's thoughts will be with you in your battle with cancer.

And, I don't know for sure if my buddy got a spiked drink or not. I'm not even sure if he knows. But, for sure the taxi driver told him never to take a free tequila in any bar down there and that seemed like good advice to pass on.

I'm not sure I agree with your assessment that the young prostitutes would rather be with a young guy who would take them away from it all. That may be their dream. But I've watched enough of them for long enough to believe that it rarely happens. In my experience, the more likely scenario is that some young guy with a barely running, but rather large car comes along and charms her out of her pants to get it for free. If she's lucky, she's not pregnant when he dumps her. I think she'd be much better off with someone like you who will treat her with some respect and love her such that you both can get off.

OK, that's not much reporting, so I'll add this. I'm always wary in Juarez, but there are 3 guys in the downtown area that seem fairly trustworthy to me. At the top of the list is a fairly big Mexican with a full moustache named Martin. He used to work at the Panama, but is now at the new Pink Lady. You can ask him to do most anything for you and he will reliably do it. Flag a cab, pass along a message to some chica who has the night off, or tell you how much he thinks is a fair price for tequila or beer at the store. I don't think I've ever asked him about specific girls and I'm not sure I ever would. But I have let him know which one(s) I would like to "talk" to and he's very willing to help out with that.

Oh speaking of the Pink Lady... One of the "waiters" is obviously female. She has long straight black hair, overweight, and probably in her mid to late 40's. Her name is something like Joli or Yoli. Anyway, she'll strike you as being kind of a sourpuss and that's because she's gay. It feels "funny" to be negotiating with her for price with one of the regular girls.

[DreamingEagle]

Yeah, getting drunk in Juarez, especially in el centro, is probably just a pretty bad idea all around. Did someone get served a spiked round of tequila down there? Given the skulldrudgery of the hustlers in el centro, I don't doubt it one bit.

You have a lot more rights outside of the bars in el centro in Juarez and get a lot more respect. If you get in any trouble down there anyone in authority kind of figures you came to Mexico for the wrong reasons in the first place and don't deserve a lot of sympathy for whatever happened to you. Right or wrong, that's the way it is.

It's a lot different elsewhere, kind of like the difference between day and night. The minute I decided the bars downtown were not for me, all my problems with the cops came to a screaching halt. You can drive where you want, do what you want, and make friends with some really great people elsewhere in the city.

Sometimes I think about slipping down there in a taxi for a go with one of my old favoritas in the bars, but how could she be any better than the girls I know now in the MPs who don't screw up their lives with drugs and just do what they do for their kids? Ounce for ounce, they are just as pretty, just as hot, and, with many of them, the passage of time has deepened things to the point is like being with a sexy wife or girlfiend who never fails to please. So why expose myself to the risks of going, even in a taxi?

The luxury of time and proximity has spoiled me beyond belief. I not only know them in the MPs but as a friend when I see them in the neighborhood store or the new restaurant across the street dragging back tacos or burgers for the crew.

I moved here because I had cancer back in Dallas and didn't know how much time I had. Well, three years later, I've got it again, but this time the emotional impact is not so great. I'm sitting here in Las Cruces listening to an Alicia Villareal CD, thankful for every second I had with our much misunderstood friends south of the border. I have met best among them here, and I have found them to be as good a friends as I have ever known.
Beyond the hustlers and pimps in el centro lies a great city full of lots of great people. Please never judge your experiences in el centro as the guage of the character of Ciudad Juarez.

There is a new MP half a block south of Calle Peru and Jose Borrunda for those who might be interested. It's on Peru right behind MP Felinas, called X-2. You would never know it was an MP from the outside. Just look for the black sign: "X-2", on the east side of Calle Peru, right on my little path to the neighborhood store.

Inside you will find the usual mixture of gorditas mixed in with a slender one or two, if you're lucky. That's pretty much the whole story in Mexico, isn't it? About the same anywhere you go.

Corpus has a new line up. It's under new ownership who seems to understand we would like to see ribs and a flat tummy now and then. MP Marilyn has been graced by the return of Christina if Sergio does not fire her again for being unreliable by the time you get there. Hard to imagine a lovelier girl anywhere.

Haven't gone to El Encanto lately since the Perla is mad at me for picking Lorena so often, and I never know if they are both going to be on duty at the same time. Seems easier to look for new talent elsewhere.

Some new face who leads me to the room and returns while I am showering and disrobes to reluctantly give her body to another perfect stranger for $30 despite the smile on her face, or worse, determined to give it without a flinch of emotion in order to protect her self-esteem. I like to sit her down now and explain I've been coming for three years and know she is there for her kids and tell her what really turns me on is showing her some respect and turning her on, giving her some pleasure for a change. She always then parts her legs and lets me get her ready to fuck. She always comes and makes me feel like a man, some kind of fountain of youth I can always find in Mexico to make me forget I am 53 years old and that she would rather be dancing at a disco somewhere looking for a youthful counterpart who could understand her life as a prostitute and take her away from it and give her and the kids a life, something I will never do.

That's pretty much it for 99.5% of them.

Ah, well, it's a hell of a lot better than jacking off someplace in the U.S. wishing you were 26 years old again. A hell of lot better, but it was a lot more fun before realizing the great emotional toll providing our pleasures takes on them. I would not be a bit disappointed if I got there some Friday night and found every one of them had a good job or were in school or married and just not available anymore. But it won't happen in our lifetimes. So enjoy. Just have a little respect. Not many of them would be there if there was any other choice. At best a bittersweet experience to please her and leave her laying there for more, or less, depending on who walks into that door next. How would you ever know, for these secrets she keeps down deep, knowing best never to reveal them. Only the smiling faces of the children matter when she brings home the groceries and ice cream, or the medicine one of them needs for la gripa.

Unless she is some drugged out fool, which I don't think many of the girls I see are, she lives for them, not for us. I'd bet she sees even those of us who pleased her sexually as a bunch of legends in our own minds...

You have to admit, that's one hell of a big line there at the border...

[Sun Devil]

I generally just walk, preferring the convenience of being able to stop and go wherever and whenever I want. It also helps to satisfy my curiosity of how the Mexican people live by giving me the time to be able to observe them. If you want to drive, you will need Mexican insurance. There was a whole discussion of this issue in this forum just fairly recently. I suggest you go back and read them.

As you know, El Paso-Ciudad Juarez is the largest binational metro area in the world, thus it is not surprising that you will see Texan or New Mexican plates in Juarez and Chihuahuan plates in El Paso or Las Cruces. People generally just go back and forth across the Rio Grande, by car or by walking.

Don't worry about the cab drivers, they are just trying to make a living to feed themselves and their family. They get a commission when they introduce a client into a club. Just say "no gracias" and tell them you already know where the girls and clubs are.

I had a fun time with a cab driver once when I told him where all the massage parlors and brothels were, naming the streets and/or generally direction of each one. Needless to say, I didn't need him and he realized that, but we had a fun time during our consumer/merchant relationship and the haggling we had in the process, if you can call it that.