Ciudad Juarez - 2004 Reports

[Cienega32]

RE: Cell phones - has anyone called Mex based cell phones from US? I saw others (Mexicali Jack) with problems doing so and wondered about it. I haven't tried but have a number that I would like to call before this weekend.

[Cienega32]

Ahhhh - I see. And after I hit the [English] button.

Alas! I AM a dumb gringo.

Has any here gone to these events? No problem bringing a camera or video cam? What about "that side of town" parking and transportation?

I only know the Santa Fe side. [sniff]

5 days and counting!

[BorderJumper]

Bullfights Cienega32! Follow that link I left for schedules and info

[Cienega32]

What is the Corrida that's mentioned the day after MongerPalooza?

[BorderJumper]

Not a problem Dougie. You need to take back ALL you've said about me because it is hard to talk about someone with any authority when you've never met them!

It was a simple GOOGLE on "Juarez Bullfights". As long as I lived there and as many times as I passed the place, I never realized what it was

[Dougie]

BorderJumper, you are the shitz. Thanks a million, I take back half of the stuff I have said about you. ;^) I called myself doing a web search but I never thought to just type in the name of the bullring into the URL. Duh!

Too bad about my not being able to make Mongerpalooza on the 24th, especially with the Corrida being the next day. Perhaps another one later in the year, like the first week of September or October.

RearWindow, PM me your email address, I'll PayPal you some money to tip Marianna for me. (just kidding). :-D

[BorderJumper]

Dougie; Here's all you need about the bullfights in Juarez at this link.

http://www.plazamonumental.com/juarez.ssp#

The Mongerpalooza at the Kentucky Club on the 24th. Has this gathering been finalized or still in the talking stages? If so, what time and what is the agenda? I may be in the area next weekend and it would be a pleasure to meet some of you guys!

[Bachelor Warrior]

I don't go to the Panama very much, but when I've stopped in it's been practically empty. And it's been that way for quite some time. But Saturday night it was busy. In fact, there were two girls there that I know for a fact had been working at the Pink Lady for probably over a year. It looks like they've switched. I didn't ask why, but I wonder if something has changed? Maybe the shine has worn off of the PL's new location?

Casa Colorado was dead. It seemed like it could have been a Sunday night. Not many girls and not many guys. I have not seen hardly any good looking chicas there in quite a while. The most interesting one I saw was maybe a 7, but she seemed more interested in playing Pac-Man than anything else. I thought maybe it was still early, but the waitress said no, just not much business.

[Adam Z]

Saw a new babe at Queens that I hadn't seen before, named Yesenia. She kind of has a latina Angie Harmon thing going, is really stacked and dances great. Was hoping that someone had a report on her because she really looked great.

Hit most of the other bars, but the zona was dead for a saturday night. Not much to speak of at Irma's and Año Nuevo. Vegas and Virginias sucked too. What's the zona coming to?

Was really hoping to go monger-paloozing with you guys, but a friend needed some emergency surgery in Albuquerque today am thinking I had better go visit him instead next weekend when he's finally up to having visitors.

[Crespo]

I found out that the Juarez strip clubs don't really start until about 7pm. This was surprising given that it was a Saturday (two weeks ago). Note that the "conversation bar" at the new Jokers is open earlier, but I imagine that would be quite expensive route. Nonetheless, the hostess was a knockout (brunette with smallish build but stacked), so if you have nothing better to do it might be a place to kill time. There were about a dozen people there at the time (5ish). Likewise, Amadeus was also open but without dancers (and also without any attractive women in sight). They said the dancers start around 6:30pm. Prince's Palace was closed altogether.

I was at the new Joker's earlier and like the layout better than the place on De la Raza: the stage is bigger and the sitting area is much less cramped. This was during the week, so they had a 2/$6 drink special that certainly makes it more affordable for hanging out. However, the girls weren't as exotic or model-quality (but I was only there a short time).

[Crespo]

Just one more plug for Mariana of Marilyn's (pun intended): she also gives a very good massage by MP standards. By the way, just when the message proper was ending, Marvin Gaye "Let's Get It On" came on the radio, which was quiite a propos.

[Bachelor Warrior]

i wanted to second rw's comments about loving juarez. i've never been any place like it. for me, it's like the wild west.

now i realize detroit is a special case, but still, i was in detroit within the past year. walking on the street after dark (but still in the early evening like at 7 or 8 pm) felt very dangerous. and this was with a group of people! this was a pretty good area too around the joe louis arena and the big marriott hotel/gm headquarters. anyway, i've never felt that way in juarez. and the people weren't nearly as friendly either.

for sure, i keep my eyes peeled and i don't completely trust anybody. it would make me very nervous if a group of guys, even seemingly very young ones, seemed to watching me a little too close or if someone seemed to be following me.

i'm careful of any girls in the street too. some, maybe more than some, are guys and you never know if "she" is dangerously drunk or loaded up on crack or looking to grab your wallet after socking you in the nuts.

and i don't drink anything that i haven't seen opened. or seen one of the bar girls / waiters / owners drink first. 99% of the time that's beer. one of the taxistas told me that some bars have been known to slip a little something extra in the tequila.

i guess most of this is just common sense. i just hope i have enough of it to keep myself out of any trouble that i can't recover from.

[Zuzax]

Amadeus 70 USD bar fine and 170 for the babe. Lowest quote I got 150.

I was wondering if you guys ever try to talk the girls down in price from what they quote you?

I remember going to the Panama Club and the girl quoted me $80 for a trip to the room. From reading some other forums, I knew the going price was from $40 to $50 dollars. I just kind of rolled my eyes at the girl and told her I would pay $50. She just smiled at me and agreed on $50.

Zuzax

[Juarez Defender]

I just read the report about Phantoms.

This is my experience at Phantoms and Amadeus.

Phantoms charges a 70 USD bar fine and usually the girl wants 130 making it 200. I have been quoted 100 but the girl was not worth it.

Amadeus 70 USD bar fine and 170 for the babe. Lowest quote I got 150.

Jokers is another story 300 for the girl and 100 for the bar. That was the lowest, don't ask me about the highest. But, one big but (no pun intended), the girls are model magazine material.

You can always go to El Horizonte on weekdays and hook up with two girls for 120.

Be safe,

JD

[Cienega32]

Re: Luxxor:

Using Sun Devil's directions, I show this location to be about the same distance from Ave Juarez down 16 de Septiembre as is the distance from Santa Fe bridge/Ave Juarez to 16 de Septiembre.

Sun Devil or RearWindow, am I right about the approx distance (1/2 mile or so)?

Also, any tips on how to attend a bullfight would be appreciated. By that I mean tix from where, trans to the ring. I know about the sun/shade thing but I could use some tips on getting there.

I've wanted to see one since I was a little kid.