2003 Moscow Reports

[MichaelGage]

I've noticed everyone here appear to avoid the "street" girls in Moscow. I think you are making a mistake, given a few simple rules to help you find the best selection.

First, the further out you go the newer or fresher girls you will find. Himkee is now the largest and probably best selection (on Leningradsky shosse heading to the airport Sheremetyevo). Girls who come to Moscow are started out there -- as it is just beyond the city limits they can work without a moscow registration, and it takes a week or two for them to get those papers that will allow them to move around the city a little more safely.

If you are willing to take your time and look you can find girls who have just started working without any problem. First, simply ask the "mamachka" for a girl who has not worked long (ne davno rabotat) and she will often point out the new ones. Also, as the girls line up in your headlights (often 10-30 at a time) look carefully and you can pick out the ones that just don't belong or fit in. Often, they are a little more nervous than the others - and who wouldn't be!

You might say, but they can lie to you about it.. but once you have a fresh girl in your room it is easy to tell them apart, and when you do find a new girl she is more likely to spend the week with you if you ask. Also, girls are the best source of information on anything else you are looking for, and will often call up their "girlfriends" to help you out.

So don't miss out on an amazing opportunity. These girls are fresh from Moldova, Ukraine, Belarus, Uzbek and Kazak, plus other provinces of Russia, and are worth the $70 or $150 you will pay. There are always a few 8's and 9's if you are willing to drive around for an hour or so.

And remember, to fully enjoy you have to go with the culture. They expect a firm man, domineering. I have found that by just putting her forearm behind her back and feeling her up against the wall will generally set the stage for a wonderful night of service and obedience. If you are into anal, the girls on the street are the place to go as well as every other variety you might imagine.

email me for more info if you want.

Michael

[Hedonist]

For those who would like to check out a *****house in Moscow, I'd recommend salon Wellcum. I have been there three times, and each time they had absolutely wonderful girls.

Check out the link if interested:
http://www.dosug.org/dosug/04301219/index.htm

When you go there during the day, most girls they advertise on that website won't be there, but they will still have a decent selection.

Once inside, you'll be asked if you want tea or coffee, and the girls available will line up in front of you. Have some small talk with them, ask if anybody speaks English etc. After you choose the girl(s) the girl will take you to the bathroom for a shower and she'll take a shower after you are done.

I felt completely safe and had no problems whatsoever. First and third times I had an incredibly sexy Ukranian girl called Margarita. Incredibly beautiful body. The second time I chose a Russian beauty called Liza.

I think this is a good alternative to taking girls to your hotel. If you are young and can go two or three times in an hour, it turns out to be also a good value.

[Hedonist]

Does anybody know anything about the lineup situation Moscow?

Is it safe just to take cab outside one of the clubs and tell the driver that you want a girl? In Russian, this sounds a little rude: "Ya hochu devushki!". Its literal tranlation would be:"I want a young woman!".

So, what is the key sentence to let the taxi driver understand that you want to check out the lineups?

If an experienced WSG'er could shed some light on this, I'd appreciate it.

[dinop]

Experience with russian language course at "Lomonossow University"?

Hallo,
has anyone experience with a russian language course at the Lomonossow University in Moscow? They offer cheap language courses with university teachers and accomodation in the sturdent´s residences.

Maybe this is a good opportunity to learn the language and meet nice (female) students for a good time.... what do you think?

[OttoGraham]

Because of the incompetence of my visa service agency, I did not receive my Russian visa in time for my planned visit. Therefore I will have to visit Russia another time.

Sorry to you fellows who were planning on meeting up with me, we'll try it again later.

-Uncle Otto

[Swissman]

Hi all,

I'm are in Moscow from 25-28 April. If anyone from the Forum there this time it would be cool to meet for a beer.

doctor_skank,
Thanx a lot for the Infos. It's good for us that you take the time to write your experience, thanks Man!

If any of you come someday to Switzerland i will be happy to help. I had also post some Info about Zürich in the Switerland Section of this Forum.

Ma by is not on the right place here...but i have to say it. I'm are from time to time in the USA and I like the Gils there. I never see so many Girls whit huge Silicontitts :-) And the Stripclubs in the Staats are the best all over the World.

Take care
Swissman

[Doctor_Skank]

Glad to see everybody is going to Moscow, you'll have a good time.

Body Rocker: If you're resilient, you'll be able to get your friend to your room. Worst case would be getting a room. Try just normal registration at the desk though. Especially if she is going to be coming to your room on more than one occasion. After you come back, I'd be interested to read your findings. I'm sure it would be interesting for others as well, since this situation comes up a lot. In any case, good luck! Sounds like you've got yourself set up pretty well with your "friends!"

Swissmann: Actually I meant something else in my post. I meant that I wasn't interested in the Rossia bar girls since they were less attractive than girls I WOULD NOT take in real life, even if I was drunk. But to your point, I actually do usually prefer to try to pick up girls in bars, clubs or otherwise. This is more fun for me... if I can't find something there is still the option of a pro/semi-pro girl. I like picking up normal girls since the sex is "real" and actually the real girls I've had were usually better looking than most of the pros I've had. For first time travellers to Moscow, I think it would be best to have a prostitute on the first night and then try to pick up something on your own on the second night, if you are interested in that.

IMHO the strategies are basically the same as anywhere else, only you will be hampered by the language but will have the advantage of being a foreigner. Picking up girls, drunk or otherwise, in Russia isn't "automatic", but many find it easier than in other places. The most important thing is to get initial contact and get into a conversation...even if just very basic. Once you have her hooked, just reel her in. Your success will of course depend on a lot of things, but I do suggest the following:

a) don't be shy. Waiting around to be "discovered" won't work. You'll have to approach them. Make sure that you don't approach somebody's girlfriend. But this is the same everywhere around the world.
b) always say that you come to Moscow quite often...she'll be more interested in someone she thinks she'll see more than once. She is of course thinking of what advantages a Western boyfriend would have for her. You just want a piece of ass, so tell her whatever she wants to hear.
c) try to go "hunting" with a friend. Being alone surrounded by groups of Russians speaking Russian can be depressing and contact difficult. And you'll look too predatory/desperate for some girls, reducing your chances. If you have someone else to talk to, it will make you feel more comfortable and the hunting will be more fun. Sounds strange, but sometimes I've gotten into conversations with normal Russian men and this made it much easier to pick up girls in the same bar. Russian guys are fun to be with and are proud of the beauty of their women. In my experience Russian guys are not at all angry if you are interested in their women...just as long as it isn't their girlfriend you are after.
d) try to speak at least some Russian...after she hears you making mistakes she'll be more likely to try out her English.
e) don't get too drunk. A drink or two will make it easier for you to seek contact, but being really drunk will ruin your chances entirely.
f) if you meet a girl and hit it off and she doesn't want to spend the night on the first night, make a date for the second night. If she agrees, and she almost always will, you'll be able to screw her the second night...100%.
g) if you don't have success on a particular night, don't feel bad. Go pick up a pro or try again on the next night.
h) one of the easiest contacts is through work. I've met a lot of girls through work contacts and although I've made a point to be very careful not to mess up my business, I've slept with several girls this way...from common secretaries and translators to managers. Some people make it a rule NOT to mix business with pleasure, but I like playing with fire...

One note, the normal girls I've met, for the most part, were far from normal... they are the best girls (and women) I've ever met. They really exceeded my expectations. They are sexually adventurous and passionate, intelligent and sensual. And they love sex. I have had more fun with normal girls than with pros. But there is a good reason to choose pros... as they say "you are not paying them for the sex, you are paying them to go away afterwards"...in other words, no hassle, no broken hearts and no worries.

[BodyRockerForU]

Hey Doc,

Thanks a lot for the detailed note on Rossia. Indeed it was very informative. I originaly was staying at Mezhdonarodyana but I have some other people from work who we cannt afford to put there as its 220Us$ / Night and we all have to stay in the same hotel due to meetings , thus I have to make the sacrifice and stay in budget hotel with them . Its surely disappointing about the security problems at Rossia , however I have an idea that In case of a problem I will book a room for my female friends there and they can check in like a guest , its not expensive because I can get them a room in old wing for less then 60 $ and they can then come to my room in the New Wing.I don't mind spending few bucks extra but don't want hassles for the gals or myself. because as I said they are not pros but friends with whom I do share intimate relationship

OTTOGRAHAM , I am there in Moscow too during the same period 16th -22nd Feb, but I am not a Local .I don't mind buying a drink to you and other friends from this forum if you are there as well during that period.It will be good to meet friends from WSG.

[Lurking60]

**Question to all you Moscow Veterans***


I was wondering if there is an area in Moscow that would be best on all fronts for the first timer? I would like to be close to the sites and the woman, without hassel or spending a huge sum of money or time getting from one place to another. Maybe something like the Moscow version of a Bangkok Soi Cowboy? Or a Amsterdam Red Light Area? Will be in Moscow April 2 through April 11 with a stop in St. Pete for a couple of days in that time. Also, anyone know of any good tattoo places in the area also.

Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[Swissman]

doctor_skank,

Your post to BodyRocker is really intersting! You don't pay for girls, sound's good :-) You pick them up in Bars, drunk girls. May be you can recoment some good Bars where is "easy" to pick up a Girl whit out to spend many on her. How are the rouls for that? I guess is dipense on you look and on you age too. And what kind of girls?

Thanx Swissman

[Doctor_Skank]

BodyRocker,

Bringing people to your room at Rossia, especially a guy bringing a girl, is a problem any time of the day. But she can be registered as a guest and come up during the day or early evening. I don't think this costs anything, it is just a hassle and "normal" girls generally hate it, since it makes them feel like prostitutes. I tried to smuggle my real girlfriend by once, no chance. And that was at like 3 in the afternoon. Nobody in Marriott or Sheraton would have looked twice. But Rossia is really strict on this.

Late at night you'll either have to pay for double occupancy (she'll have to register at the desk) or have to bribe somebody. Smuggling someone in is impossible, as all elevators are in one spot, right next to the front desk and there are at least two security guys standing there checking people. I've never bribed anybody at Rossia. So I don't know if this is common there or what it costs. Sorry! Chances are your "date", if she is a working girl, will know the procedure and what to do/whom to pay.

It does suck, you are right!

To avoid these very complications and hassles I've started staying in private apartments. They are just as cheap as the Russian hotels, better equipped, the agency can handle the visa invites and so on if you need that, they'll pick you up at the airport for $30 and you have complete freedom to bring girls back to your room. The agencies know that people do this, they just don't want to confronted with it.

If you prefer a cheap hotel like Rossia, there are also the working girls who hang out in the bars within the hotel. They run about $100 and are average in quality. They didn't look like much to me. I generally don't pay for girls I wouldn't even pick up drunk in a bar in "real" life... so I wasn't too smitten with the selection at Rossia. But occasionally I'll come across a good review in this forum.

[BodyRockerForU]

Doc Skank,
Thanks a lot buddy for the info.So is there anyway we can get rid of security at Rossia ?.. bribe ? What about day time ? do they allow in the day or its same like evening ? damm this stinks

Thanks again.

[Doctor_Skank]

Swissmann,

The Sheraton lobby girls have the market on in-house prostitution, but you can still bring other girls in. You may have to pay a bribe. It will depend on a few factors, like time of day, who is working security, their mood, your appearance and attitude, her appearance.... in any case, the NF girl will know how to get into your hotel... and know about what has to be paid etc. After all, most NF customers are western businessmen taking girls back to upscale hotels.

Generally speaking, lobby girls aren't recommended, based on attitude and price, but I have no personal experience in this regard. Check other posts. There is a good recent post about this in the St.Petersburg section, which also holds true for Moscow. If you are looking at Night Flight though, then price isn't an issue. The lobby girls will probably also be in the $300 range, may offer less time and/or service than the NF girls.

[Doctor_Skank]

BodyRocker,

Security WILL give you hassles.

As far as the rest, Rossia is very average in just about everything. Location is OK, the rooms in the renovated portion are basic but clean.

Main problem with Rossia is really the security. The girls, if allowed up at all, will have to register. Besides that, the front registration desk is always crowded and really a free for all...you have to be resilient and even somewhat brash to get ahead there...typical Russia in that way.

[BodyRockerForU]

Friends , Does anyone has idea if Hotel Rossia allows outside gals in the rooms . I will have some friends (not Pros) visiting me in evening After 7 Pm , will the security create hassles ? An update will help me for sure. Also comments on quality of Hotel Rossia are welcomed .Thanks a lot in advance .