2003 Moscow Reports

[Doctor_Skank]

Ca_T:

The $200 option is new to me... live and learn, long live the WSG!

Like the tipping the mamachka touch. Will see how it works for me. Being friendly to them does pay off.

Which pic directs to a homepage? New to me too...

[CA Traveler]

doc... the tochka across Tverskaya from the Grand has a $200 option for girls. That is where the NF quality girl I posted awhile back came from. I normally would NEVER have paid that for a tochka girl, but she was very special not only in looks but also in attitude. I'd pay it again if I ever find her again.

mm... I am not sure there really is a rhyme or reason for the pricing at the lineup. I've had great experiences from all categories including the $70 girls on occasion. However, I'm not sure that you'd want to take them dancing. The exception being the girl I described above who was dressed up for anything. Good thing I didn't get her an hour earlier, because I would have taken her to the Mon Cafe on Tverskaya and I would have arrived about the same time as the girl bomber that walked in and couldn't get it to explode! That's too much excitement for this old man!

OMT, doc, I always give my favorite mama 100 rubles. AND, she is always looking out for me and always tells the girls on their way out to treat me well... and they do!

BTW, one of your pics on the photo gallery directs you to the MSN home page. Am I missing something?

[Jimbehr2000]

You guys are killing me (ubei menya) with these incredible reports.

Somebody here, possibly CA Traveler, wrote about a tochka in the vicinity of the Grand but very close to the American Restaurant and Bar. Doc Skank's tochka directions may be directions to that tochka. My greatest regret is not going to a tochka during my first Moscow trip. I believe I could have handled it even as a newbie.

This group is really smoking with information, reports, and pics. I join others in thanking people for taking the time to contribute.

[Doctor_Skank]

Hedonist:

43%:
It is a rough figure, but has been posted a couple of times before from a few sources, most recently Dick Travel:

"Of the 100$ I paid for her she told me she got 1300rbl (43$), the mamatchka got 100rbl ($3.3) and the mafia the other $54."

I have no info to the contrary on this structure and it has been posted in this forum at least 3 different times by reliable sources.

If anybody has any info to the contrary, please inform.

BTW: last time at a tochka, I "had" to tip the mamachka 50 rubles.

[Bez Bezarra]

Doctor Doctor!

Thank you for answering, however I have a follow up question or 2 for clarification, hope you won't mind. Please believe me, I am definitely NOT looking for ways to pay more. Whenever I've had girls stand firm on CBJ's, (about 50% of the time), my own insisting for BBBJ didn't get them to relent, but my offer of extra $10 always did. OK, I guess I'm not persuasive enough. Certainly no force was ever used by me over preservatives. As far as using force, its only been used to make drunk girls get the hell out!

Once or twice, I got the story about how "I'm so poor and I need more $" from $50 Kiev girls when they first got inside my flat. One said she would be extra good to me if I tipped her, which she was, another offered to do "anything I want" for extra $20. I'll post her pic soon, I couldn't turn her down. I assumed she was offering her tar star, so I plugged her up!

Anyway...please Doc, or anyone, can you describe your observations of the differences between the girls coming from different priced vans, 70/100/150. What accounts for the price variations? Is it strictly beauty or age, Moscovite vs. country girl, or is it chubby older pros are cheaper, or what? Are the $150's all dressed up so you could take them dancing if you want vs. cheaper casual dressed ones? Is it just based on the 1-10 scale? Can you tell please if you know, how it works? That very first girl with the crooked teeth you described as probably brand new that you passed up, do you think that makes her cost more/less/what?

Also, you are sure that there's no different price for us visitors vs. locals?

Looks like I really let myself get ripped off in Odessa, but I got pissed off at the agency for sending me dud after dud. The first 2 were very good at $30 or $35 /hr, which offered $100 all night, but after a week I insisted they send me only top quality and they jacked me up to $100/hr. It's my fucking fault, the only saving grace was meeting Yula the angel from heaven on my last night, but that's another story for later on.

[Hedonist]

Doc:
I am curious, how did you calculate that 43%?

[Doctor_Skank]

Ca_T,

I am TOO anxious to see your pics and hear your accounts about your girls!

You are right about the tochkas, there are at least 3 relatively close to the Grand Marriott. To the one I am talking about, you have to go out of the revolving doors on the side street and then to the left down Staropimenovsky away from Tverskaya.

Toscana:

She was saying "kill me" (Ubei menya) in a playful passionate way.

Mangus man:

$70, $100 or $150 gets you the girl for the night, period. I am not aware of anything higher priced from tochkas. For that, you can go to an escort service, NF, Metallitsa or any upscale club. The taxis don't get any commission. Whether or not a girl does anal, allows pics or video etc. is up to her and your persuasion skills, but most girls will try to please. Nonetheless, they don't HAVE to do anything they don't want, but they also don't want to get in trouble for not pleasing a customer. So it is case by case. Maybe extra cash could persuade a girl, as she only gets about 43% of the take from the amount paid to the mamachka. I've never tried, but have considered it as well. Some guys get a little forceful with the girls, I don't. My aggression is all passion and play, and the girls (freebies as well) love it. To each his own I say. Morning blow jobs? Until she leaves, she is yours to fuck as often as you want (or can).

[CA Traveler]

doc... do you seriously HAVE a day job????

Nice report, again! I can see you are going to drag this out for as long as you can. Let's cut to the chase and hear about "red"!!!

One point of reference from your earlier report... You mentioned that the Marriott Grand tochka is "out the revolving doors to the left". The only thing is that there are two sets of revolving doors at the Grand. One on Tverskaya and the main entrance on the side street. I assume you are talking about the main entrance. Now this is the interesting part... That is NOT the Grand tochka that I've referenced on my reports. SO, there must be two (actually three) tochkas within close walking distance of the Grand. Mine is out the main revolving doors and to the right, directly across Tverskaya on a small side street. However, I went down Tverskaya on Monday and it wasn't there, so it was either an off night or it may have moved locations.

Tonight, I broke down and went back for some of the 18 yo Ukraine girl from last night. I don't normally go back for seconds, but this was so fresh and tight that it had to be experienced again to make sure that my memories were right on! They were... pics to follow!

[Doctor_Skank]

Fellas, maybe we should all quit our day jobs...

Day 2:

I was surprisingly rested and after brief contact with Ca_T, we both agreed to try to meet at CF. Both of us were quite busy, and as it turns out I arrived at CF shortly after he had left, I think to go to a tochka. His analysis of the dyev situation at CF that night was right on, as CF sucked on that particular Wednesday night, since there was a major soccer match and the place was packed with normal Russian soccer fans and only a few girls. I left within 15 minutes and went to Rock Vegas, hoping to catch up with a few girls I had met there before, including a 26 year old businesswoman who had made a drunken pass at me a few weeks back and whom I had rejected to pursue 3 considerably cuter younger girls.

On this night I entered RV and it was also packed with soccer fans. Damn. And the 26-year old I was hoping to take home was making out with her Russian boyfriend. So I "didi maued" out of there after a single beer and elected to go to a tochka again. The driver took me to the one close to CF, and again I selected a $100 girl, as I still had 2 free nights open and I didn't want to completely thrash my budget after two days.

The selection wasn't large, but there were a few cuties there and having had a brunette Ukrainian the previous night, I was looking for a blonde Siberian type. As it turned out, I picked a blonde from Smolensk, which is a city close to Belarus, which is nowhere near Siberia, but she would do just fine.

We went back to my pad and I offered her vodka, which she accepted. Having to work the next day, I decided to get down to business early and soon we were in the sack. She had a pale white body, biggish tits and a remarkably nearly naturally hairless bush, with just a few blonde strands. I decided I had to eat that pussy. She loved it. After that she was purring like a kitten and we went through the whole bevy of positions including my fave, the face fuck. It really was the classic case of cool Slavic girl heating up after some romance. I truly recommend and promote showing the girls a good time, it will usually pay off in performance.

Regrettably she rejected nude shots and video, but I made a few clothed post-coital shots.

The next morning she was extremely cuddly and I felt bad about kicking her out into the cold. Again she looked at me as if she wanted to give me her telephone number, but I elected not to ask.

I'll post an alternate photo in the photo gallery section later. Sorry that these aren't nudes, but better than nothing.

If she bought some new fashionable clothes, went to a hairdresser, got a makeover and dolled herself up, she would be NF quality I am sure. But then she'd likely lose her "innocent" tochka charm and be just another spoiled dyev.

[Roger Mellie]

DT:
As producer, the auditions job is mine

[Dick Travel]

Doc,

so...

CA_Trav is going to do cameras and lights etc.

You are going to do the main performance.

I used to be a stage manager.... would you like me to run through some "warm up" excercises with your co-star for you?


Top report, thanks.

DT

[CA Traveler]

doc... count me in on the lights or a secondary camera. However, you may have to get a bigger apartment!

[Roger Mellie]

Doc, if I get sick of this desk job, I might pack it all in, grab you and do a tour of Russia. You can be the porn star, and I will be the producer / cameraman.

[Doctor_Skank]

Fellas:

Glad you enjoyed the story from Day 1 and the pic, I've made video before and it is really rewarding if you can find a "volunteer". Watching a personal video is a real power trip, I really noticed how loud she was and her facial expressions when she feels unobserved are priceless. Too bad there was no camera crew to get closeups, but I did some of my own camera work while she blew me and rode me and was able to get some nice graphic stuff.

BTW:
Ubei menya means "kill me"... nice touch, it is pretty audible on the video too...

[Toscana]

Ubai Menya: I suspect she was saying Ubeyi Menya (?), meaning yes, kill me. Which in the context of playful choking could make sense. Any other thoughts?