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  1. #624
    Doctor Skank

    Thanks for your post, once again you know more than me about that, I agree with you in everything, takes many many emails to get to go with one of the internet girl and yes, many of then look for guys with money that can take care of them. Thanks but no thanks for those girls. later i will do more questions in my next visit there to you guys.

    And thanks for the pics.

  2. #623
    Ca_T,

    I think we both go through a lot of quality women in Moscow, but staying with one is not only unnecessary in Moscow, it is impossible. If I ever decide to settle down with a Moscow girl and try a monogamous relationship (I doubt I'm capable of it and definitely not willing yet) I would take her out of Moscow and move to the US or something. Not that I don't love Moscow enough to live there, but trying to stay faithful to a girl there would be sheer futility!

  3. #622
    doc... you're sure right about that! I've been with several girls that were totally great, but even when I was with them I was mentally at either a club or a tochka wondering what I was missing. At the same time, I kept thinking... I come to Moscow for variety, so why hangout with only one girl???

    I can't wait to get back next week.

  4. #621
    Ca_T, thanks for the info on mail.ru, I'll set up an account right away!

    Here is a pic from a girl picked up off of an internet site, I was the photog on this one. It's an old pic. She was delightful in bed, I was her third guy and the first time she ever orgasmed or enjoyed sex. She was very willing to try anything, and she even bathed and washed me afterwards. Totally submissive to my every whim. In fact even as I write this, I am not really sure why I stopped seeing her.

    That is the Moscow blessing and curse, you can always have another one and will never be satisified with just one.
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  5. #620
    since we've been dealing with internet contact... i ran across this article in the exile. i also has some other interesting tidbits of info in it...

    amateur *****-r stories! by travis jones

    those of us who have sought female companionship over the internet are familiar with some of the russian language sites that cater to our interests: loving.ru, dating.ru, and omen.ru are among the most popular. every few days i get an e-mail from dating.ru, which features the latest round-up of russian girls looking to find a boyfriend over the internet. after all, men who have internet access probably have better job prospects. in fact, we’re an elite; according to either the moscow times or my girlfriend, only 2% of russians use the internet at home.

    most of the girls on these sites are here in moscow or in st. petersburg—these cities have lots of bored office workers and students with access to scanners capable of uploading a flattering picture to the internet. when you look over the pictures of girls from the provinces, you notice that most of them have sent almost identical pictures of themselves, scantily clad, in front of drapes. somebody posed them for these shots, so they obviously work for porn sites. but which ones?

    most of us remember the beginning of “amateur” internet porn. a college-aged girl would scan a bunch of pictures and find some commercial site designer to make her site with an early version of frontpage. a start-up credit card processing company on the web would be used to process payments. doing this requires a degree of initiative and intelligence, which limited the number of these sites as attractive girls with these qualities can usually find basic office jobs. but soon studios that would hire several girls and offer monthly access started getting into the business. for girls in the provinces, these studios were really the only option, because dsl and cable modems were not yet available in most of provincial russia.

    all of this changed when the ifriends network opened its doors on valentine’s day, 1998. ifriends is a portal that offers ‘exhibitors’ easy-to-download software that lets them use a 50 dollar webcam to produce streaming video online. by ’98, there were thousands of porn sites with only a few girls each; ifriends offered a central meeting place for would-be porn stars and balding, 40 year old executives to exchange services for cash. women would use a text chat to lure men into a ‘private show’ in which they could then take off their clothes.

    registered members got access to archive pictures, which were often superior to the pictures offered at a price on the other sites. for its trouble, ifriends collects 50% of their revenues.

    it is extremely easy for a girl to list herself on ifriends; as an experiment, i once pointed a logitech webcam that i had hooked up to my old 233 at my ex-girlfriend’s bunnies and let them prance around online in front of perverts from missouri for nearly an hour. this the rabbits did free of charge.

    a year or two after ifriends opened its doors, girls from other countries started to appear on the site. these girls, rather than working alone from home, were employed by studios that would set up cameras and beds with computers. this was nothing new, but they used the same free software and cheap cameras that had been available to everyone for years. a cursory glance at ifriends today reveals that there are 1700 girls logged on. most of these girls work at studios in russia, romania, latvia and the czech republic. for whatever reason, certain cities seem to predominate in the number of girls they feature, particularly saint petersburg, yaroslavl, riga, and bucharest.

    trying to talk to such girls in the “guest chat” room can often prove nearly impossible. they are given a list of things to say when someone comes into their “room” in order to get them to log on for a private video session. you can’t really take offense to this: these girls don’t have a clue what you’re saying. in addition, studios usually forbid girls from talking extensively to guests if the guests don’t start paying. most of the girls stick pretty closely to their scripts. fortunately, their pictures are always available. after having the same conversation about twelve times, it is possible to find a girl who actually wants to talk. in this case, she’s usually interested in talking to an english-speaker who doesn’t just babble about sex. sometimes not. sending a picture usually helps.

    i found out about camcontacts last year from a girl in piter who had posted a personal ad on dating.ru. these girls are attractive but not particularly better looking than other russian girls their age; in other words, just because they are “porn stars” in a sense doesn’t mean they have any more luck than other girls in real life. go to dating.ru and you’ll always run into the telltale curtains hanging in the background. these sites only make money when you pay by the minute for live nude chat. that’s pretty pointless for anyone who’s actually in russia, as a fifteen minute session can cost you as much as a venture with a ***** from omen.ru

    i first met anna two weeks ago on camcontacts. she was a fair-skinned, 22-year old bleached blonde who moved to the golden ring city of kostroma to escape the husband she left in kirov; her three-year-old daughter lives with her. she attended a local “technological university” and works some hours at a factory that makes processed meat, in addition to her chatroom income. anna won’t tell me how much she makes, but the average chatroom girl working on her own makes about $800 a month. studio girls make half this or less. since most people in kostroma oblast make less than $200 a month, chatroom girls are well-paid by local standards. the hours can be long; anna usually works for 12 hours a day or more; but most of these hours consist of waiting for someone to come in to watch her take off her clothes and finger herself for a few minutes.

    i invited myself out to kostroma to visit anna. she was very happy with this and selected a “hearts” motif for her yahoo pager background. i’d never seen the city, which is about a seven-hour train trip from moscow. according to the only information available in english at waytorussia.net, the only train to the city of 280,000 leaves slightly before midnight, although there are regular busses. i found several hotels in the city: a “guest house” that offers doubles for 50 dollars a night or 5 dollars an hour, an old intourist place for 500 rubles a day that anna seemed to like, and a boat-hotel for 300 rubles a night which she claims is frequented by the city’s prostitutes.

    that saturday evening i took the train to kostroma. platzkart is 12 dollars or so each way whereas kupe is about 18. the train went via yaroslavl; the two cities are about 80 km apart from each other but not connected by a major highway. i wanted to spend a few hours in yaroslavl, a city i’d never seen, so i took the second class car as far as yaroslavl and spent a few hours at a divey local discotheque called “partizan,” where i was rescued from some thugs by an english major at the university and her friends. the armenian taxi driver informed me that the local *****s ran at about 500 rubles apiece. i went platzkart to kostroma from there. the scene out the window was run-down izbas and the occasional factory. the single-family houses struck me, probably because i hadn’t left moscow since june.

    anna and i played e-mail tag while i wandered around town after checking in at the kostroma hotel. this hotel, which wasn’t listed on the city site, has several types of rooms, including suites, first, and third class. first class rooms are $16 a night for a single with a bath, shower, tv and phone. third class rooms are $10, but you have to share a bathroom. the hotel was out of first class rooms so i opted for the $10 room.

    kostroma looked better than i’d expected, more european than most russian cities. it’s run-down like most of russia but lacks the spiritually barren pressed-concrete architecture that characterizes many russian cities. it was once one of the principal commercial cities along the volga and is as old as moscow. it has a central open-air market and kremlin that are both several hundred years old. perhaps most amazing about the city is that it has so many good, inexpensive restaurants, including an ‘art cafe’ where the only art on the wall consists of pictures of (clothed) young women. most of the food is standard russian fare, although there are two decent pizzerias and an english restaurant called camelot. the pizza at the pizzeria doesn’t have any tomato paste, but unlike most french fries in moscow it comes with a bottle of ketchup, spelled ‘katsoop’ on the menu. i guess this serves as a proxy for the tomato paste.

    i went to a disco in the center of town where the cover was 40 rubles and beers were 25-30. there was almost nobody there except some *****s in the lobby that i chatted up for half an hour or so. some guy they knew showed up and bugged them for $10 blowjobs, picking at polina’s fishnet stockings, which she was wearing over a regular pair of tights. two of them had phone numbers, another did not. not all of kostroma made it into the 20th century and many people still don’t have a home phone. when i returned from the disco, i found a message from anna—she had gone to work at 10, got my message, and come to the hotel only to leave when i didn’t come back.

    the next day i waited in the morning in the lobby of the hotel for anna to come. she arrived around 11:30. she was a bit of a disappointment—she had looked rather young in the whitewashed pictures that she had posted on the web site. in real life she had crow’s feet and could have passed for 30. she was fairly tall, standing about 5’8” or 5’9” in her high-heeled ‘fuck me’ boots. she was wearing a sweater with a generic label in english and skin-tight pants. she had bleached blonde hair and was smoking next cigarettes. ‘we need go to hospital…” she said. i wondered what was wrong. apparently she had some minor malady that required a trip to the gynecologist. i’d never started a date with a trip to the gynecologist, but the rates posted on the wall were reasonable enough—appointments were less than three dollars, surgery only $20 or so.

    after anna was given a clean bill of health, we made our way to her friend olya’s apartment. olya was also a chat girl. anna said it was olya’s birthday, so we bought a cake on the way for olya’s place. olya wasn’t home, but her mom was, and fed us soup, tea, cranberry juice, and a shot each of home-made ukrainian vodka which tasted a bit like swedish aquavit. while we waited around, we proceeded to eat half the cake. nobody bothered to light any candles or make a wish.

    olya’s cat and 18-year-old son were home. she had a husband too, but he was away. the apartment was a standard one-room place on the first floor of a stalin-era building. in the one-room place dwelt: olya, olya’s mom, olya’s son, olya’s husband, and olya’s cat.

    “nice kitty,” i told anna.

    “oh—you can have her—there isn’t any room for her.” i would have considered it if not for the big, fat ticks on the cat’s back.

    olya came home. she was seven months pregnant, and looked it. she had short, dyed blonde hair, pretty lips and a cute nose, but her pregnant-mom overalls and crowded apartment weren’t exactly stimulating. besides, she looked pissed off, even before i offended her by saying “foo!” when she lit a cigarette, my middle class instincts kicking in. olya ignored me from then on. she didn’t speak any english anyway, and wasn’t as willing to listen to my bumbling russian as her mom had been. olya had bigger problems; she was in the middle of a divorce.

    “don’t worry,” anna said. “olya smoke last time pregnant.” after playing with the cat and toddler for a few minutes, anna and i took off for her studio. i never actually got a look at the studio; i waited outside the studio and had a cigarette. it was in an anonymous residential building; the entrance was a standard korpus that resembled half of the stalin-era korpusi in moscow. anna got her friend lena, who went to a bar with us where she explained how the girls’ set-up worked.

    lena had long, chestnut-brown hair, a round face and what she described as a kazakh looking nose. she had an energetic personality; it was hard to assess her body under the large winter coat she was wearing. i forget the name of the bar, but it wasn’t bad for a city with the size and average disposable income of kostroma. lena was of average build; anna was much more fit but looked older. lena showed me her passport; she had just had her 23rd birthday. anna claimed to have lost her passport in a taxi. there was hardly anybody in the bar, but the waitress insisted that if we wanted a table that we had to pay at least 300 rubles between the three of us. i almost laughed at the low minimum, but then again, nothing on the menu was more than fifty rubles.

    lena, anna and i proceeded to drink baltika 3’s. lena’s english was much better than anna’s, and so we were able to talk about their workplace. the studio had three rooms; one with pink drapes, one with blue ones, and one with green ones. each room had a bed; there were eight computers. each woman operated a computer; customers came rarely enough so that nobody had to worry about sharing the bed that served as a setting for most of the strip-tease. women could come and go as they pleased: there were about 30-40 women, total, but many only worked part-time. others worked 12 hours a day. lena practically lived there and at her sister’s place.

    they didn’t have a steady flow of customers, but when men did log in, they usually spent three or so dollars a minute. everything was optional; the girls didn’t have to finger themselves, use dildos, or anything, but usually did, as not doing so would mean that they didn’t attract men into their chat rooms. men usually had strange requests. one request lena remembered was that she put on 3 times as much makeup as average and drink vodka—somebody out there gets off on russian-**** stereotypes, i guess. she was amused when a foot fetishist came to her—all he did was pay to jerk off and look at her feet while she sat back and reviewed english words. a subsequent look at the site revealed that most of the archived pictures were soft-core if they were porn at all, although one did feature olya holding a dildo. lena and anna insisted that they weren’t bi, although a look at the site revealed a few pictures of them naked together.

    lena told me she’d grossed $1,200 last month. her studio takes 60%, so her net was about $500. she said there was a studio in moscow that only took 40%.

    the girls supplemented their incomes by courting the interests of repeat customers, who were sometimes the object of their romantic fixations. anna liked one guy from michigan, and one from the west end of alexandria, virginia; both had sent her things and talked to her extensively on the phone. after we’d had more drinks, i drew a map showing anna how far it was between michigan and virginia, and scribbled www.greyhound.com for her on a piece of paper.

    i asked why the girls didn’t log on from home alone. “i have a computer at home and can log in whenever i want to—you could do the same and buy a camera and work from home.”

    they didn’t understand; they thought i wanted to set up a studio. “if you set up a studio, we might work for you but only if we stop working at our studio…we don’t want our boss to see us online working somewhere else,” lena said. unfortunately, there are more barriers to getting online than just the prospect of buying a computer with a 50-dollar web-cam. as it had become so apparent at olya’s place, living conditions were often too cramped to work from home. anna had a son that she didn’t want exposed to her work, and lena didn’t have her own place. rental properties were hard to find for less than $200 because most people inherited their places from the soviet era and effectively lived in condominiums. high speed internet access was difficult to set up, and dial-up access required a phone line.

    the biggest problem, however, was that of getting paid by ifriends or camcontacts. ifriends is in america and camcontacts in america and the uk, and both mail paper checks to their chat-hostesses rather than wiring them the cash. getting a check from the us or uk and cashing it in russia can take months even in a large city; kostroma’s banks don’t have many of the features that those in moscow do. to get paid, the money would have to be deposited to a us account by a friend and then sent to them via western union.

    i invited the girls back to my hotel. “we have to work tonight—we are going to moscow for several days so we need the money.” this was news to me: i knew that a trip was planned but anna was undecided as to whether or not she wanted to go to moscow. i asked her how much she planned to make that night. she said that it could be as little as 200 rubles but as much as $50 dollars, but probably more like $10. the next day, they saw me off at the gray, soviet-era bus station; they would take the train later on that day and arrive in the morning.

    so there you have it: the girls didn’t want to come back to my hotel with me because they couldn’t pass up an opportunity to make a dollar an hour or less. unfortunately, my megafon account has run out of money, so they won’t be able to get through to me. anna wasn’t nearly as attractive in real life, although her friend was cute. unfortunately, we all know how hard it is to switch friends. so i may wait a day or so before turning my phone on again

  6. #619
    doc... about the emailing girls and translation. I've signed up for a free email account with mail.ru (which is also list.ru and others). It is great because it has a translation device built right into the email page. So when you receive a letter in Russki, you just have to hit one button and the translation pops up. Very nice! In addition, it allows up to 25,600 K, which allows very large files to be received without having to sign up for additional space like on hotmail.com.

  7. #618
    doc... Thanks for the advice on those first few lonely nights in Moscow!!! Personally, I normally just curl up with a good book for the first several nights before I venture out into the jungle... NOT!

    Actually on the safety issue... I have felt in much more danger walking the streets of London or other big cities than I have in Moscow. The streets are generally well lit and you don't really have the gangs of young street punks walking around causing trouble. Of course, I haven't ventured out into some of the far reaching suburbs and that may be a different story.

    Like you, I've been pretty lucky with all of the girls I've taken back to my apartment/room. I've only lost a stainless steel flask of aftershave. However, I have a friend that now lives in Spb that had an expensive camera taken by a tochka girl. He went back to the tochka and explained what happened. The big guy of tochka (BGOT) loaded my friend up and they went to an apartment building. The BGOT and a lgot went up and when they came back down they handed my friend his camera... NOW, can you even imagine that happening in LA or NYC? I think not!

  8. #617
    Seek Rus,

    Thanks for the compliments to myself and the other regular posters. I personally am very appreciative of the efforts of all posters, even those on their first trips posting on first experiences in Moscow. All the info here is very valuable. In the end everybody's experience will be individual and people also have different tastes and expectations, and I also enjoy their experiences vicariously.

    As you mentioned, the dating sites are a good alternative approach to meeting girls.

    You mention bride.ru, which is the english language sister site to a site I've used regularly, the dating.ru site mentioned here before by myself and RogerMellie among others. I think these sites are quite good for those looking for serious girlfriends/marriage as well as those looking to set something up for freebie sex/casual girlfriends. I've met several girls (and women) from the dating.ru site before and they were all "normal" girls looking for love, but they also knew the risks and pitfalls of looking for love on the internet, so when it didn't turn out to be love but rather just a short-term relationship with sex, they weren't gravely disappointed. Neither was I. The girls are all real, there doesn't seem to be any catch to it beyond the fact that the girls will likely be maintaining contact to several guys at once and some will have alterior motives in wanting to get to know you, but that is all part of the game, right?

    As far as I can tell, the bride.ru site costs money unless you have your own profile. The dating.ru site is completely free.

    Even though the bride.ru site itself is available in English, if you are going to maintain contact with any girls speaking Russian will be a big help, 90% of the girls I met spoke only Russian or too little English to carry on more than a very superficial e-mail rapport. Of course sites like translate.ru can help to communicate, but are quite a hassle in the long run.

    Depending on your intention for your trip, the sites may or may not prove their worth. You will have to invest time and energy into it and write a lot of e-mails. I find them to be a bit more work than they are worth for me personally, but I have the advantage of being able to meet regular girls quite often and easily through regular trips to Moscow. So for me now writing e-mails to half a dozen girls I really only want to fuck once or twice really isn't much more effective than just hitting on strangers in a bar or calling up girls I've gotten phone numbers from before.

    Using the sites to set up dates isn't necessarily cost effective either, as none of these girls will likely jump in the sack without at least dinner, a second or third date or maybe even a present like perfume. If you've only got a week in Moscow and are just looking for casual sex, then investing 3 days into a potential score is probably too much. That is an individual matter of preference I suppose. The girls I've met on the internet seem to me to be more cautious than other girls and more suspicious of a man's intentions. You will likely have to do some quality lying to convince them of your "honest intentions" or get lucky enough to find one that accepts your real intentions. What works for me is a mixed approach, I honestly intend to really fuck her. Currently I am only maintaining one contact from this site whom I'll meet next week.

    However for those with little Moscow experience seeking a freebie or GF while in Moscow, it could well be worth your time and it'll be entertaining. You'll gain experience in dealing with dyevs, and setting up a date or two on one of your first nights in will help you adjust to Moscow without suffering from the loneliness that can occur being in a big city alone for the first time, not speaking the language etc. After your date is over (assuming you don't score on the first date), you can always jump in a taxi to expend the built up desire on some lucky CF, NF or tochka girl.

    I also suggest being careful not to fall in love with the first "real" Russian girl you meet, it happens to a lot of guys...and Western guys are easy prey for a skilled dyev and her Slavic charms. Most men are completely unprepared for it and it can knock you off your feet.

    As for pictures, I'll post more soon.

  9. #616
    Ca_T...well-informed and accurate as always!

    Here's my take on pros and honesty:

    There is always going to be some latent risk in inviting a stranger into your room or home to engage in these kind of activities. GFE or not, she is still a stranger and cannot really be trusted. That said, I think if you take normal precautions (besides the jimmy cap..) you'll be ok. Russia still had a certain degree of lawlessness to it, the most lawless of all often wearing a uniform, but it isn't as dangerous as the Western press makes it out to be. The normal dangerous situations one can get into, like being alone at 3 am in a dimly lit alley or being passed out drunk in an apartment with a girl you just met 3 hours ago or suddenly meeting the 200 pound muscled meathead boyfriend or brother of the girl you are groping at the bar would be just as dangerous in the US or UK for that matter.

    So beyond the obvious, I think that the following is a good guide of what to do and not to do:

    * never get into a taxi or "gypsy taxi/street taxi" that has more than 1 person in it
    * if you are new to Moscow, note the locationof your hotel and know some basic Moscow city geography
    * especially if alone, maintain your wits and avoid being really drunk... you'll be a militia magnet if you are
    * don't walk long distances at night
    * lock up your valuables and documents when you are in your room
    * if in a private apartment, lock the door from the inside and hide or otherwise maintain control over the key so your date will have to ask you before leaving
    * when showering (if alone) make certain your stuff is secure
    * if paranoid about spiked drinks, drink only bottled drinks (supposedly drink spiking does occur in Moscow, but I have never been faced with it. it is a bigger problem in the US and Europe actually, generally for women)

    The relative "honesty" of Russian sex workers in general is surprising, as if they did steal from you or run off you'd probably never find them again and searching for them would likely bring more trouble and not be worth your time anyway.

    The girls have yet to try to steal from me (that I know of...). I remember a particular recent incident where I was begging for trouble and nothing happened. I talked a CF regular down to $70 at about 3 am and then took her home. I was quite drunk and it wasn't one of my finer moments, yet she still didn't steal from me and dutifully waited until morning to leave.

    She could have stolen a kidney from me and I wouldn't have noticed it...

    BTW, talking a CF girl down to $70 is really not worth the effort IMHO and the girl will certainly feel insulted, but I just was curious if it could be done. It was like pulling teeth to talk her down to $70, even though on that particular night her chances of scoring another john were next to nothing. I had made a mistake earlier in the evening and screwed up a freebie at another club, so out of frustration I ended up at CF. I've since seen the "discount" girl again, she is a regular at CF.

    I think if you exercise basic caution and in particular take care of your money and documents and maintain control over the apartment key, you'll remain in control of the situation.

    Here is a pic (not taken by me) of what could happen if things didn't go so well with your tochka girl...
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  10. #615
    jf... handcuffs work best, but you can also use leg irons!

    Actually, you must pay the mama as soon as you pick the girl. If the girl was to "run" off, you would have to return to the tochka and explain that she took off. At the same time, I have NEVER even heard of such a thing happening simply because, as I understand it, the girl doesn't get paid until she goes back the next night. In addition, the girls (usually) go to the lineups of their own free will and they are happy to be picked because they get out of the cold and I suspect that the girls have some kind of personal competition about who is chosen first.

    Plus, the few girls that "borrow" money for the trip from Moldova/Ukraine/Belarus do, in fact, owe someone money and the sooner they pay it back the sooner they are off the hook. Combined with the fact that the consequences are probably not pleasant if they were to run off. Plus, you as a Westerner are probably going to be less intimidating than the average Russian.

    So, the bottom-line is very simple... you don't have to worry about the girl running off!

  11. #614
    This is a total newbie question but I am wondering how do you keep girls from the tochkas from running off without providing service after you pay them. Do you refuse to pay them until after you are finished or do you just not let them out of your sight until you get what you paid for? When is the expected time to give the girl her cash?

    Thanks guys

  12. #613
    doc... I've hit every button that says go on the entire page and it keeps throwing me back to the log in screen.

    So, warriorxxx, who I just rec'd a message from... please email me at californiatraveler@hotmail.com

  13. #612
    Ca_T,

    The private message function is a little tricky, have you tried hitting the "go" button next to the gray box that says show messages from: all messages? If you don't, the system won't work. At first I thought I didn't have any messages either, but then tried that and the system works fine for me now.

    Hedonist,

    Images like 50 girls piling out of minivans while a mamachka yells their price like at a livestock auction is really one of those defining surreal Moscow moments and is a treasure to behold. A few more days and I can get another fix... Hope to see you back in Moscow soon!

  14. #611
    hedonist... you're right, that is a sight to behold. That's what I call a real Thanksgiving feast!

    blake7... rec'd a note that you'd sent a private message, but I couldn't retrieve it. Please email me.

  15. #610
    Hello guys,

    This is my first time writing, but I've being reading your comments for awhile ago. Ca traveler and doctor skank has become heroes for this forum. I appreciate all your info. I like to said at least for the ones that look for freebies in Russia that you can put a profile of yours in http://www.bride.ru (its free to put the profile) and instead paying to have contact with those girls you probably will get mail from then saying hello and saying that like you profile. Perfect moment to tell them that you are thinking going there and have a good time. Be nice of course, they are looking for marriege, but as long you treat them well they loose in up and a freebie will be for you : )

    I will keep reading your ideas. I but wont write as much cause I don't have the experience that Ca traveler has and skank doctor or Regiemiller.

    By the way guys, I like so much when you put pictures of the girls from there. Please post as many you like to.

    Take care guys

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