2004 Moscow Reports

[Faisal78]

Hi, to all, just been approved as regular member and posting for the first time.

I came back last week from Moscow with disappointment, becuase it was first time there and the trip was only for 2 days, so no action at all.

I am going again for for 3 days in few week, i willnot be having much time to visit Night Flight and Tochkas, could you please recommend me the fatest way to get a girl in my room, this time i might stay in Tiflis Hotel.

Any Idea about Tiflis Hotel.

Looking for help from you guys.

[CBGBConnisur]

Many of the fine FKK women come from EE and Russia.

[TheKnight]

It has to be the Slavic lure for me. I was like a dog on heat for sure first time at FKK, but it's all so impersonal and seeing "your" girl of 30 minutes ago going deep down on another john takes something away from the whole experience.

Personal choice I know, but the sex is also far, far better in the east, and of course time is almost always no barrier - apart from when you have another visitor lined up and need to kick out number 1 in order to get some "shut eye" before no.2 turns up!

But, if you're yet to indulge in FKK, go there - if you've already been try the new experience - 1000s of posts can't be wrong!!!

[NeilSydney]

Quick Report.

Just left Moscow having experienced my first Russian adventure, but eager for more future trips. I used Moscow Star apartments and can highly recommend them. The girl I took there on my second night was very very very impressed with the quality of the apartment. Also, the position of the apartment was so close to Nightflight that it was easy to sneak past those annoying militia boys.

Anyway, not that much to add to anyone else's Russian experiences but I wanted to pass on my adventure from my first night at Nightflight. I ended up going with a girl called Svetlana (one of about 1,000) for $150USD. Yes, not the cheapest but it was certainly interesting. As I had a friend staying in the apartment I thought I would not be able to take a girl home. She said we could go to her apartment. My alarm bells started ringing. But after about 2 hours of normal chat, and surprisingly no pressure, I decided to take the gamble. I know this was risky, and please...no lectures. I ended up in suburbian Russia, but it was a good calculated risk. This girl took me to her place, cooked me supper, provided some quality sexual services, and in the morning cooked me a splendid breakfast. We went into the city together (she bought me a heap of food to eat on the way) and scheduled to meet for lunch. I could not make it, and for some reason couldn't connect to her mobile, so ended up standing her up.

But the point was that for me, this was a pretty unique experience. I hardly expect this again, and didnt get it the second night from the other NF girl I saw. Anyway, thought that might make interesting reading for some, and can really add to the concept of the GFE.

[Traveling Male]

Doctor_Skank, Sexplorer, CA Traveller,

Thank you for your replies, I read your posts twice, I really appreciate your well-written feedback, and your rich vocabulary and good use of words.

You both asserted the general feeling I got from my readings here, that Moscow is more of (like Dr S. described it) a "safari" hunt trip, where you'd exercise your hunting skills in the wild, something we Americans have to do a lot of to get laid over here, only in our case, with a much less outcome, a lot more frustrations, compromises and $$$. Having lived in L.A. for a while, I've almost got addicted to the dance around, jump around, try to hook your prey thing in clubs, play the alpha male game, the 3 seconds rule... you know all these games I had to play to get laid in the good old U. of S. So when I visited FKK last June, my jaws dropped as far as they can go seeing all the naked gorgeous women in my site ready and available to have sex within seconds! I feasted on the scene, but after the 3rd- 4th day, I felt something was missing from the whole experience.

That wild primitive feeling you get when you bring a prey into your territory to feast upon on her was just not there, the whole talk to the girl, make her laugh, try to play with her mind and heart to rack up anticipated rewards in bed, all leading to alleviated levels of anticipation, and intense orgasmic moments, and I found myself simply missing all that.

So here I was in FKK clubs, like a Cheetah taken away from the wild safari's in Africa, and put in the luscious green surroundings of the San Diego Zoo, with all you can eat buffet... guaranteed outcome, and no challenge...

Then I came across the Russia & Ukraine forums, and I got the feeling again, it really is nice to have your own flat and do all things you want to do with those gorgeous model type girls, for a long extended period of times. Well, thanks to you guys, I decided this is what I want to experience next, but since I've already booked my second trip to Germany this September (Sept 2nd-Setp 7th) I'd have to feast on the San Diego Zoo meat one more time before I can experience the wild Russian safaris.

If any of you guys are coming to Germany around that time, and would like to meet, maybe for a prelude to a near future trip to Russia or Ukraine, I'd be happy to meet with you fellows.

Now on another note, Would Late November be a good time to visit Moscow or Kiev? how about during Christmas time?

All the best,

Traveling Male

[CA Traveler]

tm... I am currently in Paris experiencing the wonderful sex clubs here, but the answer is exactly what doc and sexp said.

Each is different and until you experience them it is difficult to make a choice. I have obviously chosen Moscow, but I still enjoy variety. Hence, a trip to Paris!

Let me know if you plan to come to Moscow. There are always other mongers here.

[Knuckhead]

Traveling Male:

Thank you for your kind words. My experience is very limited but recent and perhaps pertinent to your question (went to FKK World immediately after a 3 day visit to Moscow). Doctor_Skank addressed your points quite eloquently. These are my thoughts:

There are certain commercial sex venues in different places of the world that are simply unique to that particular location. As such, it behooves you to experience as many of them as you can with the realization that a valid comparison between them would only inevitably reflect one’s personal choice. I have made it a point to experience as many of these as possible. Without prejudice to their quality, and in no particular order, such unique venues include Moscow Tochkas, Brazilian Termas, Buenos Aires Boliches, Korean Barbershops and “An-Ma”’s, Amsterdam window girls, German FKK’s, Parisian swingers’ clubs and “Van walkers”, Prague’s K-5, Vienna’s Babylon, Thailand’s “fish Bowls”, and many other venues I do not know about yet but hope other forum members will enlighten me of.

I feel that both Moscow Tochkas and German FKK’s are “can’t miss” type experiences, and I was simply shocked when I saw either one for the first time. In general, at either venue you can find more beautiful girls than you can handle. The Tochkas (or Moscow in general) is more geared toward a longer time experience (several hours to all night), whereas the FKK’s are geared toward having many sessions in as little time as possible. I, for example, had six girls in a little over 7 hours (Thanks Cialis ). Everything Dr. Skank mentioned about his comparison is very true and was highly evident to me during my visits.

For sure, going to Germany for an FKK trip has much less of a hassle factor. Beside the obvious points (not needing a visa, ease of transportation, lack of language barrier, etc.), the simple fact about FKK’s is that because both of you are already there, you can go from making a decision to have a session with a certain girl to actually having the session in a matter of seconds! In Moscow you have to go on “fishing” expeditions, find your girl, bring her home, dodge the militia, and then have sex. The reward, however, is MUCH higher IMHO. When was the last time a gorgeous girl looked you in the eye after you gave her an orgasm and said, “thank you”? This happens a lot in Moscow.

In short, do both as I did! Come and enjoy Moscow to the fullest, and then on your way back have a one-night stop over in Frankfurt and go to FKK World.

Sexplorer

[Doctor_Skank]

TM,

Your comparison is an interesting idea and your points match mine as well, with the following additions:

FKK is probably the only "accessible" place in the world where you can fuck 3 solid beauties from 3 continents in 3 hours for $250. I haven't experienced anything really comparable. Certainly Argentina or Brazil or Thailand are all equally fascinating (overwhelming) in their own extent, but until you've been to one of the top FKK clubs in Germany you really won't understand the fascination of it. It is really like access all areas VIP room... at a relatively low price.

That said, FKK is still very business-like, you never really escape the feeling that you are involved in a business transaction. The tell tale signs are everywhere... no real privacy due to the other johns milling around, the waste basket next to the bed full of used condoms and tissue paper etc. The girl you just had may give you an indication of GFE and I admire them for their remarkable skill in doing so, but even at that you'll likely see the girl you just "connected with" sucking some other guys cock an hour later on the couch she sucked yours on.

I find that the Russian pro scence, which usually ends up with you and your girl sharing anything from 2 hours to 2 days in your apartment or hotel together for anywhere from $100-300 offers a more lasting impression. I vaguely remember a few FKK experiences, but I vividly remember several Russian pros... and have the video and pics to help me remember. And yes, I still have contact to a couple, but have let most of the contacts fade with time.

FKK is absolutely safe, beyond those VD risks you may or may not have with BBBJ and DFK... but there is another section in this forum for that. Russia always carries certain risks with it, but I don't think they should be exaggerated. I don't feel insecure there at all, but I do avoid doing stupid things...usually. Doing the occassional stupid thing adds to the Russian experience... but thats just me. Some of the stupid things have led to some of my best memories... and best girls. Some of things have left me 40km outside of the center at 5am with hungry wild dogs circling around me and me desperately hoping to find a taxi before the militia gobbles me up or a group of drunk Russian thugs stumbles across me.

FKK girls usually give a great performance, you will get the occasional bad apple pros in Russia... and once you have her you are out of luck. Pre-selection skills help, but aren't always effective.

Militia: an annoyance but not a danger. Usually avoidable, but when it happens think of it as part of the "safari" and enjoy it.

Scam artists: rare... and they prey on drunk or insecure guys.

Freebies/amateurs: the best part of Russia. The Russian/Slavic female never ceases to impress and captivate. The most complete women I have ever met. Their capacity for affection is astounding, their sexual appetite voracious. They are wily though...it is all part of the fascination of interacting with them. Challenge them and they'll perform.

Tochka: line-up... Russian version of streetwalkers, but well-organized, generally safe and cleaner. Quality of girls varies wildly, as does price. Often price and quality have nothing to do with one another. Once my preferred option, I have been somewhat disappointed as of late of the quality available.. but that is seasonal and comes and goes. Worth a try in any case. If you enjoy the sleazy aspect of this game, you will enjoy tochka. It is an adventure you won't experience at NF or CF.

[Tatase]

Big Bro AJ,

You might want to try this.

http://www.notam02.no/~hcholm/altlang/ht/Russian.1.html

Was posted here some time ago.

Bye

[Blue Birde]

I have no problem at Novotel City center at Novoslobodskaya.

Also there is TG Fridays a couple of blocks away, where you can pick up great girls from.

I also stayed at Marriott Aurora with no problems at all.

[Traveling Male]

CA Traveler, RM, sexplorer, all

I've been reading your outstanding reports here, and it makes me want to change some of my Germany's FKK plans later this year for a trip to Moscow, or even Kiev. I've been to Germany's FKK clubs last June, and know the scene there, so I was wondering for those of you who have traveled to both places, how do you compare the Russian girls to the FKK girls? what would make each experience stand out from the other?

CA traveler,
I totally connect with you on the "ANTICIPATION" thing, it really does wonders to you when you are finally in bed and about to feast on your sexy prey, I'm a hunter sort of guy myself, and I totally understand how Roger Mellie would spend time going after the freebies... nothing like a good hunt in a bar that ends up in your bed that night.. good for your little head, and good for your self-esteem the next day

I'll start with a comparison table knowing what I know from my trip to Germany, and reading your reports here about Moscow... maybe you guys can help me finish it:

Germany FKK experience:
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Pros:
- Multi ethnicities
- Can see the girl naked before sex... even try a little couch action for free!
- Average universal price of E 50 for a half an hour.
- More Organized
- Very small chances of a rip-off

Cons:
- Shorter sex times with the girls...
- No whole night GF experience
- No anticipation - when you are in an FKK club, Sex is a sure thing!
- More professional
- Less armatures to be found...

Russia:
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Pros:
- Better luck with ordinary girls
- Good if you enjoy to hunt
- Can take them to your private apt, and see them in broad day light.... enjoy them for a whole night... take pics of them... get to know them better... for a reasonable cheap price $150-$300
- Bar+girl+whole night sex, hence, more GF experience
- Can keep long term contacts for your next visits, multiple girlfriends...
- More amatures can be found

Cons:
- Militia risk?
- More scam artists?
- Less Safe?
- More chances of getting ripped off?

P.S. What is a tochka? please pardon my ignorance...

Any one welling to meet up if I go to Russia?

Traveling Male

[Stefano]

I recently was in Kazan and layed there traditional moslem girl in traditional moslem cloths. I like to lay nice interpreters. This time I was given 50 years old interpereter. So I had to look for a woman. In my room in the hotel "Tatarstan" nice looking tartar girl Gulya was cleaning my room. I showed her 100 USD and asked her for sex immediaterly. She agreed. I enjoyed fucking her, even though she was not experienced at all.. I found, that her salary is only 50 USD per month, she is from traditional moslem family and she wants so much to buy fashionable European dresses. I received several letters asking to give phone number of my sexy "interpreter" Lena in Moscow. I can not do it for understandable reasons, but you can write her on her e-mail [Email Address deleted by Admin]. About her rate - I payed her 70 USD for the first 4-hour meeting and 50 USD for each next meeting. She did everything I asked her to do. Do not give her more. In "massage salons", "escorts", etc, girls receive the minor part of what you pay. Here Lena receives all money herself. Please recommend me sexy girls in Samara, Ekaterinburg, Saratov.

Stefano

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[Boofer]

Gentlemen,

Is Hyatt guest friendly??? I always stay at the sheraton and have been very friendly to me. Please advise.

[Boofer]

Gentlemen,

Is Hyatt guest friendly??? I always stay at the sheraton and have been very friendly to me. Please advise.

[Big Bro AJ]

Has anyone post English-Russian sex terms?

Doggy, Greek, BBJ, Missionary,etc.

I will be in Moscow next week, I would like to learn some of the words in Russian.