2004 Moscow Reports

[Stravinsky]

By popular demand, and for the "Cyrillically challenged", I am posting instructions on how to drill down to the web cam at Byeli Medvyed.

Go to the www.omen.ru website.
Look for the frame entitled Стриптиз онлайн (strip tease online).
Click on it
You will be taken to a legal disclaimer page.
Click on Далее
You will be taken to the Strip Tease Online page. Select your view;
Вид сверху (Above and behind )

Вид сзади (Side, doesn't seem to work)

Вид сбоку (Front of stage)

You will be taken to the vid cam of the club. It seems to go on about 20:00 Moscow time and goes off at 05:00 Moscow time.

If you try to access it when it is not on, you can watch some recorded video.

It looks as if they have a running backup of all the action for the past week. On the left hand side of the window the days of the week are abbreviated;

ВС Sunday
ПН Monday
ВТ Tuesday
СР Wednesday
ЧТ Thursday
ПТ Friday
СБ Saturday

Check the box marked
автообновление to start the video stream.

You can set the rate by the number of seconds, abbreviated " сек "

And then pick the time of the video clip you want to watch.

I think the rest is pretty much self-explanatory.

счастливо,

Stravinsky

[Stravinsky]

Just noticed that Omen.ru has changed it's format.

They now have an interesting new feature. It's a 24hr web cam ( 3 of them) placed inside Byeli Medvyed (Белый медведь ). It's a strip club in Moscow.

So now you can watch the dyefki without having to travel half way around the world. For my money, the best part of the show is what's happening off-stage.

Stravinsky

[One O Nine]

Here's a summary of my recent trip for another week. Thanks to the wonderful reports on Moscow night clubs here had a lot of easy freebie sex. In addition to the usual places described here on a Saturday night my Russian buddy took me to a place called Project Osen' (or maybe just Osen'). I'm a little hazy on the details and the location, but I believe it's a temporary venue that's just been open for one season. I believe it was right across the Bentley / Mazerati dealership next to the Kremlin but I was already loaded when we got there so I may be mistaken. Sorry I can't provide more details - can't seem to find anything at all on it on the web and the guy who took me there went on vacation. In any case, Osen' was just swarming with gorgeous devochki of the highest caliber, and I took a real stunner home with hardly any effort on my part. Such a shame I had to leave soon thereafter and couldn't go back to it a second time.

Secondly, had surprisingly good results picking up women from the service industry. Went on dates with a waitress from a Moroccan restaurant, a wannabe model giving out champagne samples in a supermarket and a sales girl from a pharmacy where I was buying condoms. All were at least as good looking as top tier CF girls, fun to be around, and they were genuinely excited when I asked them out just after a few minutes conversation. They work hard but make almost no money and don't get around all that much, so for them a chance to go out with a foreigner is much more of a thrill than for the girls who frequent the usual places. The 18 yo pharmacy girl from Stavropol has never been to a nice restaurant in her life, and almost had a heart attack when she saw the 700+ r price range on entrees in the Georgian place I took her to. I guess unspoiled is the word. I certainly enjoyed the experience.

On the P4P side of things, don't know if I'll be the first to report it, but I've been quoted $500 at NF on a slow Thursday night. The girl claimed to be a runway model and very well might have been. She had quite the attitude - just as I started saying something about prices usually being in the $300 area, she said "I am not usual" and stormed off. It just breaks my heart to know that some poor sob is going to accept the price and the word's going to start getting around. She was certainly the best looking girl in the club, absolutely picture perfect, but God damn, five hundred bucks.

Also visited CF one night - believe it was Monday? - after the champagne girl decided she wasn't ready for sex on the first date and left me high and dry at 1 am. Brought two girls home - both pretty cute but certainly nothing extraordinary. Both quoted $100 right away, and the sex was surprisingly good. So don't give up on that place just yet, with a little effort and a little luck you can still have a good time for a hundred.

So in summary if you're in Moscow for more than one night, especially during the weekend, definitely try out the regular night clubs. CF and NF are always available as a backup option, but there are also plenty of chances to find sex for free. All these clubs are in the same general area, so if you start around midnight you can visit a couple of them with plenty of chances to try your luck, and if you don't find anyone there you'll still manage to hit up CF or NF or whatever while they're full.

[Hamburg Willi]

As i am just preparing for flight tomorow to krasnodar and moscow, i would like to tell my first experiences in the night life of moscow.

Two of my friends asked me in march, that they would like to spent some days in moscow to enjoy the fun of russian girls.

they spent weeks of time, visiting pages like www.indiviualki.ru or www.prostitutki.ru etc.

so we arrive at the end of march for 3 days in moscow.

i had read a lot here in the forum, we booked the marriot on 1.Tverskaja (which was not a bad choice).

first evening, i had to call the prefered girls for my friends, i had a lot of website printouts on the hotelbed and was calling one after the other.
out of 10 where only 3 avaiable.

So they choosed them and we made a date for 23:00.

i was waiting outside the hotel to arrange the arival of the devs. First Dev arrived, she looked like on the pictures and my friend sat down with her in the bar during i waited the next girl.

Girl #2 arrived and sat down with 2nd friend.

At 01:00 am the last arrived and we sat all in the bar. In had asked the girls for my friends if they speak english which they all answered with yes. But than we found out, that they of couse didnt speak english. So i explained them in russian what my friends like, tryed to make some jokes to make this crazy athmospehre more easy.

My friends went with theyr girls and i had much fun with my 18yo girl. (pictures i will post later)

On next morning we had all together breakfast and the girls laughed much about there experience and i laughed together with them.

My friends told me, that it was good sex but no GFE as they couldnt communicate together.

On the evening we invited our girls which i called again (3 new one) to a itallian restaurant which is some minutes away from the hotel.

They drunk very much as they was invited from us, they and i was laughing very much as they told me from there work etc. but my friends didnt enjoy it so much because of the languageproblem.

Later on the evening they told us that they would like to go with us into the sauna and sing some karaoke.

I very much wanted but my friends where afraid of some illness or i dont know what they was all afraid of...

So i decided to leave them with my girl to visit the sauna.

It was realy the most funny experience in my live. We took a taxi, she asked for a private sauna, we got there, i ordered it and we had realy much much fun. (Is there any sauna in moscow where you can book private sauna but have the possibility to choose from some girls?)

On day 3 they decided to visit again NF and take a girl from there. It was ok as they told me, but again no GFE as i know it from russian Girls...

So i think, its absolut nessessary to have some basic russian knowledge to enjoy the real mongering life there! (They both startet to learn russian now :-)))

For me i must say, that i am thinking every free minute to the nice time i had there, this time i will be prepared a little bit better and will also try to visit a tochka and of couse again the sauna :-)

Well, hope to send this time many pictures as i will try to get as many as possible ...

See you in Moscow,

Wolf.

(i am from 05-07 dec there, so if anybody like to be invited for a beer or so, just pm :-)

[CA Traveler]

IMHO... anything can happen anywhere at any time! Personally, I've never had anything like this happen... nor have I heard of it happening in Moscow. However, that said I've seen a few misunderstanding that could have easily gotten out of hand, but I've never had a girl go this wacko.

It does stress one thing that has been said over and over... NEVER leave the key to your apt or hotel someplace where they can get it. Hide it when ever you can with your wallet and passport. Better yet, lock it in the safe if you have one.

I would also generalize that most girls in Moscow will NEVER want to bring in the Militia because they are usually not registered which will cause them a bigger problem than not being paid. OTOH, I'd be more worried about her getting her friends involved later, but again, I've never heard of such a problem here but you never know.

Now, about the price increases... This has been discussed over and over, but just to repeat that you can still get some nice girls at CF for $100 if you shop a little. Not to say that everyone will have the same results but I consistently find a keeper for $100 without too much trouble. Of course, if I don't it doesn't ruin my vacation to sleep alone for a night because I know I can go back the next night if necessary.

[Mike #3]

CAT,

Does the magazine say 3 "days" or 3 "working days"? I thought it should be 3 days.

It seems to make a hell of a difference when you arrive around the weekend.

[Big Bro AJ]

My buddies and I talked and met in total 14 different girls from zna.ru and devuska.ru(or similar).

The girls we met were the same girls, pictures were accurate. Prices are negotiable. The system works ın couple of ways. 1-3 or 4 girls live and work together.2-There is an english speaking dispatch, directs girls. 3-Studio makes deals and sends girls.

If you search the numbers, you'll see how many girls are working together.

Be safe,

PS: See you all at New Year party somewhere in Moscow.

AJ aka Big Bro

[MagicTouch]

Although the story I am posting took place in Almaty, I believe the indications it contains can be widely applicable to all Russian or russified places, thus I am copying here the significant part of it.

On a Ladies Night at Admiral Nelson in Almaty, I picked - or to be honest, was picked by - a girl in an advanced stage of alcoholic enthusiasm, before she faded from lucidity she had still the power to enjoy my decent fuck, but fell asleep faster than I would be back from my after-sex trip to the toilet.

Next morning she woke up in a crazy mood, asked for some aspirin which I gave her, than began to insistently ask for money. In order to shut her down I gave her a ridicolous tip for taxi in local money, but she did not give up. She wanted 100$!! Obviously I did never seriously consider the idea of making her happy, but the situation obliged me to accept my share of discomfort, consisting in having to prepare my luggage for check-out keeping her under continuous visual control, without the possibility of enjoying my usual and much needed morning shower, shaving and similar delights.

She tried to call the police, I understood her saying "he's not giving me money", but nothing substantial happened. She bullshitted of friends in the police, immigration or customs department ready to make my life in the following hours a hell, but my degree of belief in her words never raised significantly from zero.

[I don't know to which extent the Moscovian militsija would react differently from the Kazakhi politsija, opinions are welcome]

My wallet and my passport were safely with me, but I made a mistake, did not take care of the room's key, so she took it and refused to give it back to me. I am not the man who would get it back with violence, so I had no other choice but calling the reception and asking for support from the security.

After 5 minutes a man came, he imperiously demanded to open the door, what she felt obliged to do. Then the scientifically interesting part began, ie the discussion to assess the rights of all the parties involved. Basic Russian skills were highly beneficial to safely go through this discussion.

Apparently, in the frame of the "common law" system considered applicable to the circumstance, 2 factors appeared to be deemed significant: 1) whether any money had been promised; 2) whether any money (much or little doesn't matter) had been taken.

I was able to declare that ja nechego ne obeshchal (I did not promise anything) and ona o dengah ne govorila (she did not mention money) in reply to point 1), and ja ei dal 1500 tenge (I gave her 1500 tenge, the local money) to point 2). This was the key-point, the man asked ona poluchila? (did she take it), she faked she didn't but that was a trap for her, it was easy for me to show that, if she got the money, the problem was non-existent, and if she said she didn't, it would have been easy to check her pockets and find my money. Meaning that I could accuse her of robbery, a very serious thing indeed. I knew the Russian word for robbery, grabjozh, I suggest everybody to learn it, it's the magic word who would scare everybody.

That was the end of the story, she was "warmly" helped to leave the hotel. The security officer told me that something like that often happens.

I was mentally prepared to use other discussion options: 1) professional hookers are careful to cash the money before, and not after sex; 2) call my customer in Almaty asking him to confirm my words (he was with me in the disco); 3) last option, to give the officer 50 Euros, or 100, or whatever necessary, saying vy rishite chto pravilno, chto luchshe (you decide what's right, what's best), easy to predict that the gentleman would be enthusiast to keep the money for himself and support my position ;-)

I presume this man's salary would be maybe 200$, what opinion can he have of a stupid girl demanding to make 50% of that money in a couple of hours time, crawling between the legs of the firstcoming stranger in the night??

Conclusion: a discussion with the hotel's security is not something anyone should be actively looking for, but there are a number of reasons why these officers should be supporting you. These stupid girls demand exaggerated amounts of money, with 50% or 30% of that you can be more than successful in gaining the security's appreciation - and support ;-)

Don't forget that, beyond the power of money that should be the last-chance resource to be used, you have a number of weapons to profitably make use of. Give the girl some small amount, better in hard currency, she will take it, and in case of discussion accuse her of robbery. If she admits she got the money, she won't be in the right to ask for more, and if she doesn't, ask the security to check her pockets. And keep in mind the magic word: grabjozh.

The question to the experts of Moscow things is: how much of the above would be likely to be applicable to Moscow?

[MagicTouch]

NY Buttman, I am sure your barely legal chick deserved every cent of the 4 x 400 $ you gave her, and I am sure that your mind will long sail in the prairies of legend blown by the sweet wind of her memory ...

but

we are all desperately trying to contrast the crazy tendence of prices to grow in Moscow ... currently, it is normal at CF to be asked 200$, this is seems to be the standard starting quote to negotiate (if possible) from, and it was 100-150 max only a couple of months ago. If we don't all try to row in the same direction, it will be 250-300 by next spring ... meaning that NF will jump to 500+ and tochkas to 150-200. I am wondering how many WSG fellows expect their salaries to grow that much in % terms within that short period of time ...

I am sure that 4 x 200$ would have been more than enough to get the girl at your side. 200$ is the maximum she can expect from a night at CF and not all the nights are successful, competition is not something they miss in that pub.

Last Monday I was at CF, was asked 200$ by a cute Korean girl, changed to a sexy blonde from Magadan (Magadan!!) who wanted 150, which I downsized to 100 Euros. For me it's more an exercise of principles than a matter of low budgets, but not everybody is on his company's money.

Let's try all to act as a team and keep the prices cool as long as possible.

[CA Traveler]

Interesting new law passed in the last couple of months as reported by Passport, a local news mag for foreigners...

First time you are stoped by Militia without a registration and you have been in country more than 3 days but less than 5 days, the fine will be fairly insignificant, 500 rubles or the like.

IF YOU HAVE BEEN IN COUNTRY FOR MORE THAN 5 DAYS, the fine jumps to 50,000 rubles!

Now, this will probably not be enforced, at least it isn't now, but I foresee this causing an increase in the cost of an on-the-spot "fine" to get out of it.

BE AWARE that the laws and enforcement can change anytime here.

[CA Traveler]

A9... The answer is a definite... Maybe!


I have been to Prague a couple of times, and there every girl on the internet are fake. Is this better in Russia? Will I get the girl I see on the picture?[/QUOTE]

[Adior]

Hi,

I have been to Prague a couple of times, and there every girl on the internet are fake. Is this better in Russia? Will I get the girl I see on the picture?

[Roger Mellie]

Nice tits on that bird... strange pants though.

Do Zavtra

[Boofer]

Doctor Skank

I love Casino Crystal, it's the biggest in Europe and pretty good game (gambling). Loads of good gamblers and it's a blast to bring the freebies that you pick up walking Tverskaya or from the website there. They get impressed with the friendly environment and the game itself.

Metalistsia has AMAZING pro. Some of the prettiest were there first time i went to Moscow, three years ago. There are still some big game Pro action there, but they expect $500 for the full night.

I love strip clubs again, since i love the platform heels and the young run-a-way chicks that you meet there and hopefully shag if you're in Safari or Oh La La.

It looks like I'm getting my visa next week, so i'll be coming second week of december.

cheers buddy

[NY Buttman]

Day 4

For a change, went to Japnese restraurant on Tverskaya for dinner. Had to wait 20min to be sitted due to line extending outside the restaurant. Food was ok, but view was more than acceptable. Alot of Russian chicks hanging out and having dinner. It was amazing how much attention you attract simply talking on the cell phone speaking in English. I can only envy the guys living in Moscow having these easy opportunities day in and day out.

Again around 1:30am, I went to CF. Danced, drank, and chit chatted with few girls. Around 4:00am, I saw this beautiful, young girl who seemed to be barely 18. I definately thought she was student out for fun. I walked up to her and started talking. Then I asked if she wants to go to ballet at Bolshoi with me on Friday since I had two tickets. Her reply, "I am working." I really did not expected her to be a working girl. How ironic, all those girls I thought was working girls were student, and wanted to set up a date, and one girl I thought was definately student was working. She asked for $150, and deal was sealed. However I did asked to see her passport just to make sure was she was at least 18y.o. I didn't want to get stopped by militia and possibly end up behind bar. Her passport showed she was 18 year and 2 months old. Registration showing she arrived in moscow 2 months ago when she turned 18. She said she worked in restaurant for 2 months then her roomate introduced her to life at CF about 2wks ago.

Got back at the apartment around 5:00am. Sex was unbelievable. Her skill at BBBJ and CIM was out of this world. I never thought sensation like that was possible. I assumed sex would be unremarkable simply because she just turned 18, and worked only 2wks. Boy was I wrong. I think Eastern European girls simply are born with the talent. Rock hard 18y.o. body, sweet innocent personality not yet tainted, and unbelievable sexual skill in bed, I thought, it is not likely that I could get a better catch during this trip. I offered $400 per day for 4 days, total of $1600 for 4days. She jumped at opportunity. I know that is probably too much for Moscow but I thought it was definately worthied. People say GFE, but experience I had was definately not GFE, since non of my previous girlfriends provided this kind of service. It was beyond GFE. GFE+sexual bliss that american girls either do not know how to provide, or not willing to provide.

I will definately see her again when I go back to Moscow. I did check out the Metalitsa with her on Thursday night , after checking into Marriot (due to last minute change in schedual, I couldn't stay in the CA traveler's apartment last two day of the trip). They had live concert of popular russian singer until 1am, then the DJ dance music. There were about 30 working girls hanging around bar area. Quality of girls seem very much equivalent to NF. I didn't ask the price or talked to the girls since I was with the 18y.o I hired for 4 days.

Left Metalitsa around 3am and headed to Propaganda. Good techno music and alot of young girls dancing. Even though I was with Aleana, that didn't stop these girls from approaching me and giving me flirtatious looks. Boy I love this country.

Finally checked out of the Marriot on Sat morning to catch flight to Prague. Even though I moved out of the CA traveler's apartment, CA traveler actually came to Marriot to arrange ride to the airport as I have paid for the transportation when I rented his apartment. I can not say enough about excellent service his company provided. Only regret is that I really didn't get to talk to him much due to schedual conflict.

Prague trip report to follow in Prague section.