2005 Moscow Reports

[One O Nine]

Ha! A Russian buddy of mine does the same thing, kind of. He's originally from Siberia, but he's been here for a while. He flies back there about once a year and just goes on a dating spree. He'll meet a bunch of candidates, and then invite them all back to Dominican Republic for some sex on neutral ground.

The main difference between you and him is that he takes multiple women per trip. He tries to actively set up threesomes with the girls he meets, and whether it happens or not he just gets them there for a couple of days each. So, day 1 and 2 he'll have Masha, day 3 and 4 it'll be Dasha, and days 5 and 6 he'll have Sasha and Natasha. I think that's the correct approach, and I'd certainly recommend the same to you.

What you're doing right now is a recipe for disaster. You're basically setting yourself up to be chained to a stranger from the Internet for 10 days. What if she doesn't look exactly like the picture? What if she's a *****? What if she's simply annoying or boring or a ****, or a million other things you simply can't know about her until you spend some time with her? You can't just jump into it headfirst and hope for the best. If you want to spend 10 days in the Caribbean with a girl, you have to know her pretty well. Otherwise you might be getting the world's worst vacation.

[DownUnder]

Your idea of bring a bring a girl from there to DR is interesting but not unsual as a high end resort ( called the Viking) has been bringing Russian girls over there for a while now. I'm interested to hear your story turns out.

[El Suave]

Very interesting and creative approach to mongering and resource management mohctep.

However, the idea of spending 10 days with one, a single, and only one babe flies in the face of what the hobby is all about. The most intriguing and joyful aspect of our dearly beloved hobby is the promise of daily variety when we’re mongering. There’s nothing like pickin’ and chossin’ a different babe night in and night out

Now if you’re supplementing your Slavic rental with some of them fine Dominicanas regularly, that’s what might be called a truly blissful trip.

[Mohctep]

I have been going to Russia for years on sex tours and just to hang with some friends of mine. But as I grew older (late 30s) I am not looking forward anymore to a long flight and many hassles on the ground. Not to mention this hobby became very expensive in Moscow and some other big cities.
Well, I decided to share my experience regarding getting a girl to go to vacation spot with me instead of me flying to her.
Pluses are obvious. I HATE flying 11+ hours to mother Russia or Ukraine. So I decided to go crazy and find really attractive chick on the web. Then I will take a risk of seducing her to go to “exotic” Dominican Rep. with me for 7-10 days of pure bliss)) I want to mention that Russians or Ukraninas don't need visas to D.R., so....no hassle there
First I have to say that traveling abroad with foreigners or local men for just one week in exchange for sex is a norm in Russia. It is a booming tourist opportunity for local devs. Most of their internet profiles would answer question: “Your favorite way to spend a vacation?” with “Ocean/Sand and Palm trees”. Not to mention that most of their profile pics are made in one of those vacation spots where they went with their travel boyfriend.
They actually might have real boyfriend sitting at home unable to provide such a trip.
So to make a long story short, I found a couple(5) of candidates while on my lunch break at work.(well that is not true but anyways…). I started my Dominican contest with a swimsuit competition right away. Who cares about their talents or thoughts about world peace… One of them was a definite winner. She received a first prize and a phone call from USA. She happens to be a cute s l u t from Ukraine. I partial to Ukrainian women they remind me a lot of Latin Amer. girls. I love them all. But anyway as oppose to Amer. Women these girls don’t have any suspicions about a guy who they never met before in their life and who is asking them to come half a world over to have sex wit him in exchange for Palm trees and some Sand. They eager to meet new men and they really love sex ,but I know, I know I am preaching to the quire. So I establish connections in her home town with a couple of travel agents book her ticket using my CC (that way she cannot cash it if she decides to) and book the rest of the trip in US from reputable travel agent. All in all I am out of $2600 for all inclusive resort for 7 days. All it takes from me is 4 hour flight and I am there with appreciative Ukrainian dev who is eager to continue the second part of Swimsuit competition now in real life. Of course my beauty pageant encourages participants to fraternize with a judge.
Stay tuned for the rest of the show.

[CA Traveler]

Doc... right you are! I got home last night with a sweet young thing that I picked up at CF at 0330... 100 Euros and no security! More to follow, but I am in an Internet Cafe and the seconds are ticking away.

I lost my internet all day... very frustrating. For most of the day, I couldn't even get a call to go out.

Of course, experienced RU mongers know that in Russia... It is always something!

[Doctor_Skank]

Strav,

Apparently there was an accident in the southern part of town at some plant... and the southern half of the city has no power. The metro and public transportation are shut down for most of the city.

Actually, I wish I was there... there are ways to pass the time in times of crisis...

[Stravinsky]

There are reports this morning of a blackout in Moscow.

Can any of the local guys tell us what's happening? Assuming you have access to a PC...

[El Suave]

Since the essence of this board is its public nature, I won’t pm you Peasant, but I’ll ask in public. Is Latin dance night at Papa John’s still Rockin’? That’s where I used to pounce on and pork Ruskayas who had a soft spot for everything Latino.

[Maslitio]

Hello everyone,

They finally upgraded my membership to regular member status so now I can post. I have lived in Moscow, both studying and working, for a while. I know this town fairly well and I speak Russian.

PM me and I will be happy to answer any questions.

Peasant

[Big Bro AJ]

Moscow is an expensive city, but if you want to have fun you have to pay for it.

My budget for 38 hours long Moscow tour is almost $1000. I know some guys spend this much a month.

Anyway, $280 for visa and round trip ticket(not included to $1000).

Irregular taxi from SHII to Kolemanskaya(where my blood brother lives) $35 or $40.

Banya/sauna 2 hours long $150-$200(sex-food and drinks included).

A nice dinner at NF or a place equalivent. ($50 per person)

Two strip clubs(450-1000Rb cover, 250Rb drink-only jack, maybe a private dance $100, lap dance 100 Rb)

CF (no cover and first drinks on the house-thank to my brother, girls $150-200)

NF(750Rb cover, 250 Rb-jack, $250-300 girl) OR

After the dinner, just strip clubs for 2-3 hours than call internet girls($200-250)

Next morning brunch at Vienna Cafe $25.

Banya/sauna another $100. Than fly back to home.

Irregular taxi plus tips and couple of rubles you spend around and total will be something around $1000.

Maybe I am too dumb to spend this much money, but I enjoyed it. All the rush and all those beautiful women at NF. It worths every cent.

I recently heard that there are lots of new faces at CF since last friday.

PS: If you want lesbo show, you have to double the price. As long as it's not your first time with the same girls it is really difficult to get discount.

[Member #4076]

As some may remember, two Danes went to Moscow for a week in March, having 6 nights for fun.

No allowances, no subsidies or the like. Just money from our own pockets. I spent for a program, which I do not consider discount, 330 $ pr. night all inclusive, i.e. except the airticket. Shared appartment, visa, registration, restaurants, little taxi, food, girls and sightseeing.

The first night in CF was the most expensive. We learned and turned to the prepared Internet outprints and had a wonderful time the rest of the days.

No, we did not go out drinking and dancing from disco to disco, club to club, this we can do at home. We came to find nice girls and have sex, and staying in the appartment we had our own parties in the apartment with cheep but lovely champagne.

The trip was really worth the money, which I guess you will agree upon from reading our report.

So it is possible to do a budget stay and have an experience above value for money.

But I will admit, that had we followed the line from the first evening, we would have run short of money well before departure.

The keywords are planning and some/a good knowledge of the local tongue, *S* so that you can make bookings over the phone. You will avoid the dumb expenditures to militsia, doormen, hotels, entrence fees to discos, taxis and the like.

Just a comment, which can bring hope to new travellers.

Flowerpower

[El Suave]

Here’s a CIS sample of what’s on tap in alternate destinations. It doesn’t have to be expensive.

[El Suave]

I really don’t wanna be misunderstood, I love Moscow with a passion, the sheer number, variety and quality of the fine babes in this city are comparable to no other city on Earth. Add to the latter a city with soul, history, grandeur and charm, one would say how can you lose.

The fact is, and like the Doc said, you can lose a lot and won’t do too good at the bank when you go back home. It’s just at this point in time, Moscow is a bit cost prohibitive.

You just can’t decide on a whim to take a flight and head to Moscow this weekend, quite frankly, you need up to several months of itinerary preparation. Yet many of us keep doin’ it because this city will always have mystique.

What other cities host CIS dyevs and stand recommended? If one allows that preference is always subjective and what’s amiable and doable for some is quite dislikable and out of range for others, Turkish Cyprus, Israel and Dubai are all much more affordable destinations on all fronts.

Germany? Forget it. You can have the hottest blooded Latina garrota go to Germany, and within minutes, the jerries will turn her into a robot of the worst kind, there’s no passion and GFEs to be had in Germany.

I personally had a great time in Turkish Cyprus in cities like Gerne and Lefkosia. Not only has this side of the Island gone Atlantic City, but it attracted a large contingent of CIS hookers to it.

If you like casino gambling like me, you can have Black Jack, Roulette, Poker, CIS pussy, free drinks, cheap hotels and a super favorable exchange rate to boot. And should you be a westerner, everyone will treat you like a king and suck your dick.

So you wanna check out the babes with their clothes off before you buy? You head to your resort’s pool throughout the day and survey the topless tits, the asses with dental floss up their cracks and the super tanned long legs. You can either do an appetizer bang ST style before night falls, or you make a mental note of the leggy looker you decided to massacre later on in that night. Cost is $150 for an all nighter, and less than a $100 for an afternoon ST.

Where the real value comes, however, is in accommodation, food, alcohol consumption, transportation, exchange rates and an OK Corral island where anything goes. No militia, no visa or registration, no hotel security hassles and no frozen nuts in sub zero temperatures within the dead of winter.

Of course all the savings above won’t matter if you like gambling more than pussy, you’ve to remember why you came here.

Don’t confuse Turkish Cyprus with Greek Cyprus now, Greek Cyprus is one of shittiest mongering islands on earth, it has nothing to offer like its enemy to the north can.

I know the above may not belong here, but the Doc did ask.

[Big Bro AJ]

EE girls spread all around the world. But still Moscow has a strange magic to keep you coming. I have been to Moscow several times, I spent almost 15 days during the X-mas and New Year. Once a month I arrange a weekend tour to Moscow(38 hours long).

I work in Istanbul, city full of EE girls(Russian, Ukranian, Moldavian, Romanian, Belarus,etc.) Prices are fixed in $50 for two hours, $150-$200 for all nighters.

Time to time you need pay $250 for model types. Most of the girls are from small towns. In couple of weeks later there will be thousands of Russian dyevs in western and southern parts of Turkey for summer holiday(Antalya,Bodrum and Side are the most favorite places).

In Istanbul, I prefer home delivery and cost me only $150 plus taxi. There are lots of girls who can easy work at NF but the life is very expensive in Moscow. 8-9/10 girl can easy make $5000-$6000 a month in Istanbul, I doubt that in Moscow.

Even though I love to monger in Moscow. Walking on Tverskaya, hanging out at Shandra,Rasputin,Rhino,CF and beloved NF. I tried internet girls from zna.ru and imtincity.ru Lucky, girls were accurate with there posted pics. I prefered the English speaking dispacther when we saw all the girls she had, she arranged other girls from the net. No need to talk about the club girls, everybody know the facts. Still like to hang out at CF and NF.

It is a fact that Moscow is an expensive city, I like to go out 3-4 nights a week, I don't know what I do if I work in Moscow. Maybe freebies are the real option when you live there.

This hobby is expensive but we(I) love it.

[Doctor_Skank]

El Suave:

Very well said… I remember somebody touched on this subject about 2 years back… I think it was in the St.Pete section and if memory serves it was mohctep.

I spend an average amount of money in Moscow per day… average being about $250-300 per day for accommodation, food, drinks, taxis. This is actually fairly low compared to what other business travelers spend. I know other guys spend more... much more. Add some entry level take home p4p action ($150)and I am at $400-450.

Still, most non-Russia based mongers cannot or don’t choose to access the more affordable options… or simply don’t know about them.

So as an average monger you stick to mid-range girl-friendly hotels ($250) + high-end p4p action ($300+) + a strip club or two ($150) + restaurant, taxi and drinks ($150) and you are easily at or above $850/day. On business, all the costs are paid by the company except for the $300 girl… so yeah, in the end she is a bargain for the businessman… The average tourist monger will have a hard time swallowing this bill on a daily basis however.

Of course you can do it cheaper… learn to take the metro with limited taxis ($10/day), rent an apartment ($130), eat at home ($10), pre-drink before clubbing and then stick to one club ($20) and take home the cheapest half-way decent CF or tochka girl you can find ($100)… about $270 a day. You can’t go much cheaper than that in Moscow. But then you have to ask yourself, did I travel half-way around the world to live like this? $270/day goes a lot farther in Bangkok or BA than it does in Moscow.

Moscow a genuine monger destination? Still is… but you should bring lots of cash. Having a sex-hungry hot Russian girl in your bed for 5-6 hours is a luxury most men will never experience.

Most of us agree that Moscow is not going to get cheaper, it will just keep getting more expensive. Maybe inflation will slow, but I don’t anticipate paying less than I do now for anything in the future. Maybe the exchange rate will improve in relation to the dollar, but that is all.

Solution to this dilemma? Earn more money and adjust to paying market prices.

The freebie market is still great in Moscow, I don’t think that will change. I personally don’t feel that the freebie market is expensive in Moscow, you’d pay the same club/restaurant prices that you do in Moscow in any major city. If you consider that almost all girls put out within 2-3 dates max, Moscow still remains an excellent freebie market… if you have the time to invest and some dating skills. Again, this isn’t a real option for many mongers.

Which other destinations with CIS girls do you recommend as alternatives?

Germany’s FKKs, Dubai/UAE, Turkey, Cyprus?

Are they really that much cheaper?

Let’s face it, we have an expensive hobby…