2005 Moscow Reports

[CA Traveler]

raptor09...

Tochka is pronounced... toy-ch-ka

They open around 2200.

Prices were, last I was there a month or so ago... 3,000,4,500 and 6,000 with another 9,000 ruble category. The prices could actually been 2 or 300 more, I can't remember.

The tochkas have been hit or miss lately because of who knows what.

You will have no problems with any of the Marriotts provided that you escort her down afterward.

She should stay until you say to leave but many will try to leave after one pop so you will have to be forceful.

Possible but not likely one will speak much english.

Give her 100 or 150 for taxi if she was good. If she was a PITA then don't.

[Stravinsky]

BBAJ,

Молодец!

What an excellent idea. I’ve taken the liberty of making some minor corrections in pronunciation and adding a few vocabulary words of my own.

Веc...vyes...weight

Апартаменты...apartamentui...Incall location(her apartment, salon, house shared by 3-6 girls or else)

Выезд...vui-yezd...Outcall location(your hotel room or your apartment)

I would also add some vocabulary for those who want to go to the girl’s apartment.

“kvarteera” - Apartment is a kind of universal word, this is the Russian word for apartment

“podyezd” - Most Moscovites live in immense apartment complexes that have many entrances. This is an entrance to an apartment building. The apartment number is in relation to the podyezd.

“eh-tazh” – Floor, like the French

1 час...”ai-deen chas”...1 hour
2 часа...”dva cha-sah”...2 hours
Ночь...noch...

Секс групповой...syeks gruppovoi...

Секс классический...syeks klassichyeskiye...literally, “classical sex”, what you would usually expect.

A handy phrase if you want to find out whether the girl does anal and for how much is, “Skoilka ploos za ah-nahl”, literally, “how much more for anal?”

Лесби-шоу легкое...lesbi-show lyogkoye... легкое = “light”, as in Miller light, or Bud light.

For those more adventurous souls, you might try reading the reviews on sextalk.ru. Some of them will relate the exact conversation they had with the dispatcher or the girl and you can pick up a lot of useful phrases. It’s a little difficult because it’s all slang, but it’s precisely the kind of phrases you will need and won’t find in your pocket travel dictionary.

[Big Bro AJ]

Couple of words you better know when you are interested in intimcity.ru and other Internet girls. I may make some pronunciation mistakes cause it’s difficult to write the soft signs, but words sound like these.

Some of you may realize that the list similar to intimcity.ru profiles; but I choose the ones I used too many times in different occasions.

You have to make her understand that you are the boss and if she doesn’t want to do what you asked than kick her out and ask another one. You’re paying to satisfy your desires.


Город...(gorod)...city usually Moscow or St. Pete
Возраст...(vozrast)...age
Рост...(rost)...height
Грудь...(grud)...boob cup 4 is DD cup but 3 is not always D cup
Вес...ves...weight

Апартаменты...apartament...Incall location(her apartment, salon, house shared by 3-6 girls or else)
Выезд...vezd...Outcall location(your hotel room or your apartment)
1 час...1 cas...1 hour
2 часа...2 casa...2 hours
Ночь...noj...all night usually till morning but it depends on girl, night, mood and the connection between you and her

Hour sometimes really means length of time but sometimes means number of rounds. It depends on girl, place her interest and your budget.

Секс оральный....seks oralniyi...oral sex I have always thought ridicules to mention “yes she does oral sex” Comen she has to
Секс анальный...seks anal...Greek(anal sex)
Секс групповой...seks gruppboi...threesome, foursome(group sex) as long as girls are bisexuals threesome is awesome, otherwise it turns into pain and waste of money, time and patience, cause they just lay no participation
Секс классический...seks klassjeckiye...sex sometimes they only offer Tai or other kinds of massage

Лесби-шоу легкое...lesbi-show legkoye...honestly I don’t know the exact translation but several times it meant hard core lesbian show...2-3 girls dildols and buzzers and many other toys....some girls don’t let you touch you during the show
Игрушки...ıgruskı...toys/dildo she or they use dildo and buzzers during the foreplay and intercourse

[Cicciolino]

a) Had never a problem to bring a girl to Park Hyatt

b) Cannot recommend at all any hotel girls, it's better to pick them out of discos, clubs, escort services.

c) Vogue cafe, night fligh, Etash, Garash, Club First,... Iit's in the center so you can reach a lot of clubs with 10-15 min.

[Gameboy8]

Report on 911 VIP -- not sure what you mean by rarely offerred "go room" -- I was offerred 3 times within the first half-hour... this was thursday nite - not too busy. "go room" goes for 7k. "go hotel" goes for 14k. had a "go hotel" that was superb til i hopped in the cab to the office!

Enjoy!

And now, ladies and gentlemen, the Sands Resort and Casino is proud to present...

109's Field Guide to Moscow Strip Clubs

Countless US presidents were sacrificed to bring you this report

Introduction

If you're new to Eastern Europe, or have never been to a Russian strip club, you probably have the wrong idea fo what to expect. You most likely view strip clubs as macabre sideshows filled with horrible spectacles of tiny pieces of living flesh somehow surviving on top of mounds of silicon and collagen. In Moscow, you couldn't be farther from the truth.

Moscow strip clubs are actually filled with attractive young women untouched by a scalpel, and many of them are completely normal people outside of work. It's quite easy to have sex with one of those, and some strip clubs actually specialize in offering sex - they're basically nothing but brothels with everything displayed up front.

If your idea of a good night involves picking up an overpriced snotty human waste receptacle at NightFlight, I highly recommend visiting a strip club instead.

Strip Club Encyclopedia

Podarok - present - a note you stuff into the strippers G string after she comes up to your table and gives you a lap dance. Standard podarok is 100 r. Have plenty of those bills before you come in, most strip clubs won't give you change.

Privat - private dance. This involves you and the stripper going into a secluded area, most often a separate room but sometimes a cubicle-style space. In there, for the duration of one song, whatever happens is entirely up to you and the stripper. The only rule is that she's supposed to get fully nude and rub against you. As I'm personally no fan of manual stimulation that's pretty much all that happens in my experience, save for very rare instances of oral sex. If you are looking for a quick wank however, don't just whip it out - remember, mutual agreement. If the stripper isn't ready, you'll get your ass thrown out by a couple of apes before you can say Broken Ribs.

Komnata / Room. The sex room, usually. If a girl comes up to you and whispers "let's go room", that means she's inviting you for sex. These rooms are usually small, just enough to accomodate a queen-sized bed and a sink or occasionally a shower. Low lights, bad AC and a nightstand with a stack of condoms next to a box of Kleenex are common features. The procedure is, disrobe, wash your goods, copulate, wash your goods, get dressed, get out. Still the sex is often worth it because of the extremely low price and great looking women.

Uvol'nenie. Can roughly be translated as "rest of the night off". For strippers who don't "go room", this is your way to chpok them. Occasionally in very rare cases a desperate stripper late on a slow night will offer this to you out of the blue. However most often you should be ready to spend some time talking to her, buy her a drink or two, and buy a few privats from her before she'll consider this. In some of the more upscale clubs a stripper may not even be interested in uvol'nenie the first night she meets you, and will want you to come back another night, spend more cash on her, and then maybe she'll screw you.

The VERY important distinction is that the uvol'nenie price you'll be quoted is the fee you pay to the club. This simply lets the girl leave the place before her shift is over. Very, very rarely you may hit upon a young inexperienced dancer who'll chpok you for free, but usually the girl will charge her own negotiable fee to have sex with you.
I also have to note that, at least in my experience, uvol'nenie stripper sex is completely different from your straight-out pro sex, and is very unbusinesslike and about as close to a freebie as you're going to get. Even though you're paying money, getting a stripper out of a club is an experience closer to going to a regular club and picking up a freebie.

Waitress, Hostess Don't ignore these women either. In most clubs they're just as good looking as the strippers, but don't make nearly as much cash and thus are easier to get with. Virtually all clubs have various tasks performed by the staff as standard services. Common services are topless or nude table service, privat dances and uvol'neniye - and the staff is allowed to decline your request and they'll often do. Waitresses and Hostesses fall under two categories - young girls who want to work in a strip club but don't feel comfortable getting naked for everyone; and expensive prostitutes who want to choose their clients for themselves. In either case, if you like one of the non-stripping staff, call her to your table and see if she shows any interest. If you hit upon the former type of girls, you can sometimes even strike up a freebie relationship with them. In any case, if she's not dancing, it don't mean she don't fuck.

List of Moscow Strip Clubs
Brothel-type clubs
Oh La La
Sretenka, 1.
Cover: 600 r
Privat: varies
Go Room: varies
Uvol'nenie: varies

Entrance may be a little hard to find, it's on the South side of the building facing some boulevard, and the door may be closed by security so you have to yank it a few times before you're let in. Then you have to walk I think four floors up.

Girls are cute, most have sex. Prices vary greatly, girls set them themselves and will often improvise based on their perception of how much money you have. But generally two-three hundred bucks should buy you the time to pick your mark and buy one hour of sex with her inside the club.

Shandra

Gazetnyi Pereulok, 1
Cover: 400 / 500 (depending on the hostess' mood)
Privat: $100+
Go Room: varies
Uvol'nenie: $100+
This place is FILLED with women. Dozens and dozens of them. Most will sit around in the holding area, waiting for a vacancy in the main room to open up. But if you see somebody you like there, you can come up to them and initiate something.
Russians mostly prefer this club to Safari Lodge because women here are better looking, but I still don't like Shandra's selection in terms of quality. Lap dances are extremely expensive and aren't worth it. Same as Oh La La, if you want an hour of sex on the premises, a few hundred bucks should cover you for the night A to Z.

Safari Lodge
Pokrovka, 32
Cover: 600 r (?)
Privat: 1,000r +
Go Room: 3,000r + (usually 5K and up)
Uvol'nenie: varies
Somehow this place managed to reach the cult status in the expat community, and I think completely undeservingly. Unbelievably cramped on most nights, to the point where you're extremely unlikely to get a seat and you'll be getting your lap dances standing at the bar. Selection of women varies from goblin to gorgeous. There are two types of women here - dancing strippers who sell you privats and haunt you for podaroks, often loudly cursing like a sailor when you don't give them as much as they'd like; and there are women just standing around fully dressed who "go room".


Regular strip clubs

911 VIP
Malaya Dmitrovka, 6
Cover: most often waived for foreigners, 600 r for Russians (?)
Privat: 1,000r
Go Room: varies, very rarely offered
Uvol'nenie: $400+ (!)

Usually you want the main hall. The smaller room in the back is for the B shift; you're somewhat more likely to be offered to go room but girl selection is significantly lower in quality, and if you want to go room you're much better off in one of the places in the previous section.

Girls in the main room are usually quite nice, and include choices for any taste, usually including asian and even black dancers. Their art director is a frequent poster and contributor to sextalk.ru, so he knows exactly what the clientelle wants and makes sure the dancers perform as they should. Slightly more expensive than some other clubs, 911 VIP is still quite affordable, and you can usually find a gorgeous chick to take home with you.

Note that the $400, and usually the $500 uvol'nenie fee is supposed to INCLUDE the girl's services. Make sure to clarify beforehand.

Mister XXX
Novyi Arbat, 12
Cover: seems to vary day by day
Privat: 1,000r / dancer, more for waitress / hostess (negotiable)
Go Room: not offered
Uvol'nenie: $150-$200 / dancer, $200-$300 / waitress, $500 - hostess

Personally my favorite Moscow strip club. Very cosy and quiet, great way to relax. Women very rarely include any goblins. Great view of the stage, girls get fully nude and you get a good look at, and often into, the goods before you buy them. Girls completely content with getting 100 r podaroks, don't hassle you for privats, and will sit at your table and chat for as long as you like without expecting anything (although if you want to take them home later, do spend some cash on them).
The S&M chick, stage name Jennifer, gives great inventive shows that change all the time, and has a great rack.

The little blonde named Lena, nicknamed Looloo, is mine. If you touch her, I'll break your scrawny little arms off and stuff them up the opposite ends of your digestive tract.

Spearmint Rhino
Novyi Arbat, 19
Cover: 600r
Privat: 333.33r (3 for a thousand during frequent promotions)
Go Room: never been offered
Uvol'nenie: $150+

Pretty much the cheapest Moscow strip club, thus understandably crummy. However you'll always find at least a few good looking girls here. Some girls are a little too aggressive ("Buy privat from me! I am sitting at your table completely uninvited after all!"), but generally a good way to spend an evening and get a few phone numbers and an uvol'neniye.

Gryozy

Dolgorukovskaya 36 (right across the street from m. Novoslobodskaya)
Crummy club, closed for renovations until October - maybe will get better.

Platinum

2-nd Tverskaya Yamskaya, 40 (corner of Tverskaya and Chayanova)
Cover: 800 r
Privat: 1,000r +
Go Room: $50 / hr for room, plus negotiable with girl for sex
Uvol'nenie: varies

Kind of gone down in quality lately, but still worth a visit. The club is pretty small and there aren't that many girls but most nights you will find somebody worthy of attention. Sex on premises is rarely offered and girls in my experience are more reluctant to go uvol'nenie than in other places. Girls not too aggressive, drinks not too expensive - basically, a pretty average club that's probably not your first choice in Moscow but still worth a visit.

Byely Medved

Prospekt Mira, 116
Cover: 1,000r (sometimes may be waived)
Privat: 1,000r+
Go Room: not offered
Uvol'nenie: $300+

The most expensive and the best of the no-sex clubs in Moscow. If you just want to blow some money and look at gorgeous women, this is THE place. First floor I believe is topless and second is fully nude. Girls are extremely reluctant to go uvol'nenie unless you're a regular, i.e. left many thousands of dollars in this place. If you've got some extra cash, go here on a weekend night just to see what a truly great selection of women they have.

Ofis

Sadovaya-Kudrinskaya, 3 (right on the ring next door to Real McCoy)

Appears to be a real crummy club from my brief visit. Very aggressive women who push extremely unrealistic prices to go room. If you want to do this forum a favor you may want to check it out for yourself, in case I hit it on a bad night. But so far my recommendation is to avoid.

Dolls

DO NOT GO HERE. EVER. Unvelieveably expensive, strippers who all think they're hot shit and have horrible attitudes. My last visit there, I was sitting next to a typical gentleman from the Caucasus, complete with the giant tweed pancake of a hat. He was waiving a huge wad of $100 bills in a drunken stupor and mumbling something about paying a thousand bucks for a blowjob. One of the strippers reacted "ha, if I sucked dick for a thousand dollars, I'd still be driving a Zhiguli". Sums up the place perfectly.

Divas

Strasnoi Blvd, 10 / 2
Cover: 700 r
Privat: 1,500r - 10 m
Go Room: no (?)
Uvol'nenie: $200+

Another nice, inexpensive club. Girls are nice and not too aggressive. I'm basically tired of typing, but go here.

Rasputin

Cover: up to $100, appears to be set by the staff on the spot
Privat: $100
Go Room: $$$ (I forget, a few hundred bucks, rarely offered)
Uvol'nenie: $350+

One of the more expensive Moscow clubs. Lots of chicks, most of very high quality. If you've got a grand or more to blow a night, and want the best chicks money can buy, this is the place for you.

Cats

Lihov pereulok, 4
Cover: 300 r
Privat: $100 / 15 min
Go Room: no (?)
Uvol'nenie: 5,000 r

Nice budget option. You can spend very little money here, and usually take an attractive young thing home. Choices not as varied as in more expensive places, but still a nice place.


Summary

If you're looking to go to a sex strip club as a quick way to spend an evening, Oh La La is the best option both in terms of setting, price and girl quality. If all your other plans for the night fall through and you find yourself high and dry late at night, then try either of the three. Your opinion on them may not nessecerily agree with mine.
If you're looking to go to a more regular strip club and take a girl home, best choices depending on budget:

Low: Cats

Medium: Mister XXX, Divas

High: 911 VIP, Bely Medved, Rasputin

[Raptor 09]

The next time I am in Moscow, I would like to have some fun with the Tochka Girls. Unfortunately I have not used this method so far , so I even though I have read many postings I have a few specific questions:

1. I do not speak Russian, so what is the right pronounciation for "Tochka"?
2. I saw several recommendations for a driver to take me to the various sights. What is the usual cost just for driving from Tochka to Tochka?
3. As I stay at The Marriot Tverskaya, I do not expect any problems in bringing Tochka grils up, right? Or do they have to register?
4. What is the best time to go for the Tochkas? 18:00h? 20:00h? 22:00?
5. How long will she stay (Really until the morning?). Will she return by Taxi to Mama? Do I have to pay for it?
6. Do you usually Tip Tochka girls? If so, how much?
7. What is the current price level? 100, 150 and 200?
8. Is there a good chance to find a Tochka girl that speaks English?

I am puzzled so thanks for your help.

Raptor

[Banana Finger]

Hello everyone,

I am finally going to Moscow for the first time this weekend - Woo Hoo!

Can anyone recommend any massage/sauna places where you can actually get a good or Pro massage as well a BJ afterwords? (Not just a WG giving you a quick rub and then straight down to business!)

I have mongered in Amsterdam, Prague and Warsaw and generally found the 'Apartment' scene (incall) to be the most productive but from reading this forum I get the idea that this isnt the case in Moscow unless you speak Russian -and I dont (I am having a crash course with a russian speaking Estonian today before I go!)

I may be staying at the Hyatt (tbc) anyone have any experience with a)bringing girls back, b)hotel girls, c)any clubs/venues/girls nearby ??

Lots of questions, thanks in advance for any replies,

Regards,

BF

[Lindenwirt]

Dear friends,

I'll arrive this Saturday for my first time in Russia. My schedule is already quite full as I'll leave a couple of days later again, but Sunday I should have some time for my own. Are there any MUST DO's you can recommend?

Please PM for any info possible!

L.

[Big Bro AJ]

Moscow is a city full of surprises. At first you may find it gloomy, gray, claustrophobic and cold. But there is a strange spirit (magic) keeps you coming back.

An expat post some of the useful sites in another forum. In last 15 months, I used several of them to discover the beauties of the city.

Nightlife;

http://www.go-magazine.ru (bar/club/restaurant guide)
http://www.lifestyle.ru/ (Lifestyle - leisure & entertainment news) http://www.whererussia.com (where magazine)
http://eng.moscowout.ru/ (MoscowOut - leisure & entertainment news)
http://www.exile.ru (infamous nightlife guide-too lazy to update)
http://eng.peterout.ru/ (PeterOut - leisure & entertainment news)
http://www.afisha.ru/ (афиша.ru - leisure & entertainment news - in Russian only)
http://www.ruscuisine.com/ (Russian recipes & cuisine)


Maps and Moscow Metro;

http://www.metro.ru/ (Moscow Metro homepage - in Russian only)
http://www.infoservices.com/moscow/map/ (nice set of Moscow city maps)

Fine arts;

http://edit.weblist.ru/english/Arts..._and_galleries/ (museums & galleries)
http://www.rusmuseum.ru/eng/ (The State Russian Museum - St. Petersburg)
http://www.hermitagemuseum.org/html_En/index.html (The State Hermitage Museum - St. Petersburg)
http://www.peterhof.org/ind.html (Peterhof - St. Petersburg)
http://www.museum.ru/gmii/defengl.htm (The Pushkin State Museum of Fine Arts - Moscow)
http://www.tretyakovgallery.ru/english/ (The State Tretyakov Gallery - Moscow)
http://www.bolshoi.ru/announces_eng.shtml (The Bolshoi Theatre - Moscow)
http://www.kremlin-gkd.ru/index.htm (The Kremlin Ballet Theatre - Moscow)
http://www.mariinsky.spb.ru/en (The Mariinsky Theatre - St. Petersburg)
http://kirov.com/ (The Kirov Ballet - St. Petersburg)
http://www.alexanderpalace.org/ (Alexander Palace)
http://www.gif.ru/eng/ (GIF.Ru - Art of Russia)
http://www.auburn.edu/academic/libe.../art/index.html (Russian Art Gallery)
http://www.artinfo.ru/ (From Russia With Art)
http://www.guelman.ru/eng/gallery/ (Marat Guelman Gallery of Contemporary Art - Moscow & Kiev)
http://www.galleries.ru/ (Russian Gallery of Modern Paintings - Moscow)
http://www.leningradschool.com/ (Leningrad School - Soviet Fine Art Collection - St. Petersburg)
http://art.tsu.ru/sibart/gallery.html (SibArtNet Virtual Gallery)
http://www.paintingofrussia.com/index1.php (ART-VOLGA Gallery)
http://www.rml.org.ru/ (The State Russian Museum Art Library)
http://www.nlr.ru:8101/eng/ (The National Library of Russia)
http://www.classicalmusic.spb.ru/ (Classical Music of St. Petersburg)


Learning and speaking Russian;

Learn to read Russian

http://home.freeuk.com/russica2/index.html (Cyrillic alphabet & more)
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/...5/alphabet.html (Cyrillic alphabet)
http://www.masterrussian.com/blalphabet.shtml (MasterRussian.com / Cyrillic alphabet with audio)
http://www.learningrussian.com/alphabet.htm (Cyrillic alphabet & more / audio)

Build your vocabulary

http://masterrussian.com/ (MasterRussian.com / audio)
http://ruslang.com/ (RusLang.com - with interactive exercises and information about Russia)
http://www.learningrussian.com/index.htm (LearningRussian.com)
http://langintro.com/rintro/index.htm (An Introduction to Russian / audio)

Learn Russian grammar

http://masterrussian.com/ (MasterRussian.com / audio)
http://ruslang.com/ (RusLang.com - with interactive exercises and information about Russia)
http://www.learningrussian.com/index.htm (LearningRussian.com)
http://www.departments.bucknell.edu/russian/language/ (grammar reference - Bucknell U.)

[Big Bro AJ]

Born Loser 5,

Thanks for the interesting offer. But I am not sure whether it is useful to use such translators on telephone conversations or in crowded and loudly bars/clubs.

From my view, speaking or trying to speak Russian attracts women more than trying to speak with an electronic translator.

Alan,

Also try zna.ru and it’s sister site. Most of the pics and services are accurate. But finding girls from internet is a little bit hit and run. Sometimes only the dispacther may speak english. intimcity, dosug and zna are reliable sites to find pros.

[Stravinsky]

Alan,
The majority of the reports posted on sextalk.ru are of dyevs from two primary sources; intimcity.ru and dosug.nu. These are reports from local guys, who live in Moscow and use the the services of internet dyevs all the time.
While no one can guarantee you a good time with the internet dyevs, your chances will be much better with if you stick with these two sites.

[Alan1066]

This summer I tried calling three phone numbers collected from several web sites before my Moscow trip. NONE of the girls looked anything like the web photos! Someone told me that dosug girls are as advertised, but I want that confirmed several times over before I make another Moscow trip. I saw the tourist sites the last time! Some imput about other good web sites and clubs other than Night Flight would be greatly appreciated.

[Jes007]

Just a question... where are they pricing?
(i mean for a night)

IT

Hi,

I think you can find the prices for the girls in intimcity. The other girls asked for 100 USD for hr and 50 extra for anal. The night price was 500 which I didn't paid.

[Helena Moscow]

Good Day Gentelman!

I would like to to ask you about girl friendly hotels in Moscow?

As I understand most of western hotels girls friendly but what about other hotels and sometimes russian hotels have western names.

I reserved Sheraton for some nights but I may be need some more.

Looking for hotels at decent prices in Moscow?

Anybody know something about such hotels as Pekin,Minsk and others?

Would be nice to find something under $100 or it is impossible with good quality?

I will be in Moscow In April.

Interesting to hear from you.

Best regards

Lover

Hi,

I like Katerina hotel - it's small, cosy and friendly. Best Western is also good (but it's far from the main road). Also the good hotel is Medea (it's new and small), Renaissance, Sharaton, Radisson - OK, but can ask you meet the girl dounstairs if she comes alone. The rest are more or less bearable, but they will check the girls passport and may ask you to register her in your room. The worst are Metropol (security sometimes ask 50$ for girl's entrance) and Mezdunarodnaya (the same). Russia is also shit (after 23.00 girls not admitted, they have there own old ugly fucking women).

[Starchild2012]

Big Bro AJ, IT Travel, Ffmbud...

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