2005 Moscow Reports

[El Suave]

Suavecito,
I think Jackson has got enough to do without having to police your posts

Stravinyoshka,

Remember when you thought the fidelity of your so called girlfriend was so infallible? The disappointment feels the same when I see you shining Jackson’s shoes. What? Jack ain’t a big boy? He needs Vinsky to make the case? Stick to wishin’ folk good luck in Russian pal.

[Oceanview]

Is anyone familiar with this hotel and what delights might be within walking distance? I am going to meet some colleagues and they are reserving this hotel. Just don't want to be out in the middle of know-where's-ville, if you know what I mean.

Thanks,

Ocean

[Stravinsky]

Suavecito,

I think Jackson has got enough to do without having to police your posts.

Personal attacks are nothing but a waste of valuable disk storage. If you have some information to impart, we would all be glad to hear it, otherwise, why don't you give it a rest?

Stravinsky

[One O Nine]

Ogman,

Tochkas have a whole satellite industry of by-the-hour rooms. There'll be babooshkas stationed along the road next to the tochka with cardboard signs, renting their nearby rooms to advernturers. I've never tried it myself but I know people who do, it seems to be pretty safe.

Regarding tochka drivers, I highly recommend the fellow who drove me around. He exclusively works with foreign tourists, speaks decent English, knows Moscow and all the tochkas like the back of his hand, and can get you off the hook with militia like nobody's business. His name is Ashot, and his cell is (095) 782-6853. Tell him you heard about him on the Internet, he'll be very pleased.

[Ogman]

El Suave:

Thank you for the internet guidance but take it easy on Dealdo. His word and guidance are appreciated as well. However, I am concerned to hear the girlieboys are that prevalent in the big city.

I won't have internet access in Moscow unless I head for an internet cafe and I'd prefer just to let my fingers and feet do the walking to an apartment building or full service spa in the NW area. I'll look into the tochkas but can something be done if you are in a cab? Do Tochkas have nearby cheap hotels or krovats where one can be accomodated without having your own car?

I'll chec out "private life" gazette but i there are any others, no matter how fruitless, I'd be interested in checking them out for myself if they are out there. The Sporting News back in 2002 brought me to a nice lady near the Belarus vokzal and we hooked up several times while I was there. Hopefully I'll be able to find something nearerto shukinskaya this time.

[El Suave]

Sometimes civilians taxi cabs know better than yellow ones. (my experience)

Gypsy cabs are almost as dumb and stupid as Dildo, if you listen to him you’ll only get laid by ladyboys and homos.

[Dealdo]

Tochka Tour is a must. The best places are on Leningrandsky, way to Saint Pete. The other good one is in Stalinsgrandsky way to the other small airport,, forgot the name.

Do not waist time on Leninsky Prospect or Pushkyn metro. The militia have removed tochkas away. There is no sight of them around, at least in my last visit.

Sometimes civilians taxi cabs know better than yellow ones. (my experience)

Freebies: Is very easy. I met a LOT of girls everywhere, in the metro, in the malls, bars, cafes. restaurants, asking for directions etc.

BUT I had a lot of problems as well. If you don't know some Russian is hard to explain them that you are not interested in a long term relationship, and they can be very jealous girls, (had TOO many problems),

Another thing is many times you end up expending more money: dinner, drinks, fiesta, etc, etc. Sometimes you are lucky and hook them for straight sex. Once again, need to know Russian pick them up in a strip bar, or in a chat room.

Most of the times I prefer just to pay for a service, have a great time, and feel free next day when they have to go home. I have this severe addiction like most mongers.

For strip bars and horse houses there is plenty of data scrolling down.

Good luck everyone.

[Dealdo]

ok moscow have became out of control whit prices.. girls never charged me more than 150 dlls in cf and 400 dlls in nf.. of course id didn't paid the girl from nf.. asking the question of j wadd and many other friends who have e mailed me,,,; here is a list whit some alternatives and some english speakers in moscow which are hard to find them in the internet that is another very common request.

http://www.call-girls.ru/ 150 dlls dispatcher speak excellent english
can be last option because the price
http://individualki.ru/show_anket.h...ge=4&gr_id=1317 liza some english 60 dlls
http://www.freewebs.com/sweetangelica/index.htm very good english 150$
http://www.elit.tv/index.phtml?id=21 dispatcher speak english
http://erotic-massage.ru/salon_p.htm university salon 70 dlls masha and sasha speak english
same owner has 2 more locations same prices,, one by pushking metro 969-2735
other by studenskaya metro 209-0064 no english dispatcher in these 2 last ones i can't find the links girls 5-6 sometimes 7

privates or salons $50 no english
http://zna.nu/1108928888
http://zna.nu/1102450588
http://dolls.nu/?pg=photo&id=1919

http://dolls.nu/?pg=photo&id=1716&nphoto=2 70 dlls no english

http://dolls.nu/?pg=photo&id=2129 70 dlls no english

http://erotic-massage.ru/salon_kp.htm 100 dlls no english
http://www.intimcity.ru/persons.php?id=17124 leninshky prospect metro 70 dlls no english girls look a lot better in pictures http://<br /> &#91;ur]http://www.intimc...s.php?id=17565 leninsky prospect too

salon [CodeWord901],, dispatcher speak english.. can't find the link, nice girls.. 6-7s 544-8505 100 dlls 518-7750 and 544-8505 balshoisuhariavsky ul (did i say righ??) by suharevskaya metro
http://x-club.org/?show_girls=1 4 salons in these link. x-club, rusaloshky, night cat(my love inna doesn't work there anymore sniff) and deluxe. prices are there,pictures accurate but produced.

x-club and nightcat have english speakers dispatchers..

1o9, i will wait for your reviews from ukraine.. i have been there as well, (odessa and crimea), unfortunately i couldn't monger because i was very busy whit some girlfriends that didn't let me any minute of rest in those few days. but i really want to go free!

as i told before brasil is a paradise still.. but pleaseeee do not crash the market hehehe. we love to have a democratic mongering continent.

i have a friend in rio and a couple in sao paulo.. i prefer sao paulo,, the most beautiful girls go there for some reason.. but rio is better in party and beach. let me know if need any help.

[Oceanview]

I am coming to Moscow 21-26 May. I could use any suggestions on how to approach satisfaction in this city. So much to choose from looking at the inputs on this board, but, if this was your first visit, where should I start? I was thinking about calling for a "visit" appointment, but, then I think it may be good to just go out an get a feel for the city and ladies at a strip club.

Any suggestions or suggested agendas most appreciated, either here or PM.

Ciao,

Ocean

[One O Nine]

Hmm maybe I should visit Brasil one of these days. Somehow, quietly, my love affair with Moscow became an exclusive relationship.

Never been to the Ukraine but looks like I'll be going next month. Judging by the posts in the Kiev board, the prices there are cheaper than Moscow, but still higher than what you're used to.


By the way, you may also try that other route, freebie sex. Things usually work pretty well for most who try internet dating, one of the most popular sites being omen.ru. Lots of Russian girls seem to want to meet foreign men.

Then there are various night clubs were regular non-pro women go to meet men. Some degree of charm and / or good looks may occasionally be needed here. If you have that women are rather easy to get, if you don't mind a quick rejection or two before striking gold. But, beware, a lot of them are clingy - like they say, you don't pay the pros to come with you, you pay them to leave and never come back. Don't make the mistake of giving these girls your real phone number or an email address. This one chick I met last November still emails me a 'where are you darling' once a week.

Lastly, I've personally had rather stable success just striking up conversations with women in public. On the street, in a store somewhere, etc. I get a lot of dates with waitresses and cashiers and store clerks, girls like that. They all lead a pityful existence on the level completely different than most pro girls you'll meet. These poor girls struggle to survive on a meager salary of $60 a month, and just don't get to have any fun in their lives. It's an incredible adventure for them to go out on the town with a dashing foreigner, and eat a meal that costs more than what they make a month.

Anyway, all this of course takes a lot more work and in general is on a completely different level of fun, but Russian freebies are just as beautiful as the pros, and it's almost as easy to get into their pants. So if you do come to Moscow you might try this route even if only for the change of pace it provides, not to mention the hundreds of dollars you'll be saving.

[J Wadd]

Thanks, guys. 300USD for sex? WTF? Is that by the week? I've mongered in 40 countries and have never paid more than 200USD (for models in Brasil, and that only once or twice). I can just see it -- 300-500USD for all night and she leaves after 2 hours.

Is the Ukraine any better?

TIA again,
JWadd

[Stravinsky]

JWadd,

If you are coming from Latin America, expect some "sticker shock". Moscow ain't cheap. Depending on who's doing the reckoning, it's the most expensive city in the world, certainly one of the top 3.

Calculate what you would expect to spend per day for sex in Brazil and then triple it for Moscow. In addition, everything else will be more expensive as well; lodging, restaurants, clubs, drinks, taxis, etc.

If you speak a little Russian, then you will have access to the private apartments and internet girls who are usually not as expensive as the club girls. That's about your only option for saving money.

I think all the major clubs have been pretty well covered here in the forum. The Exile has a good list of clubs, but, in addition to the on-line listing that 1o9 posted, you might also want to check out the .pdf version of each issue. That is the most up to date. Also, the Moscow Times is an English language newspapaer published in Moscow. They have a website with club listings, http://www.go-magazine.com.

счастливо,

Stravinsky

[One O Nine]

J Wadd,

Firstly, the days of the $100-$150 average are long gone. In my experience last week, we're more in a $300 average. You'll be hard pressed to find anything worthwhile for a hundred bucks, and you certainly won't find that category in any of the top mongering spots.

Regarding the top spots, here's a basic rundown:

1. NightFlight. Tverskaya 17. Lots of good choices on virtually any night. Come around midnight or later. Prices at $300+, and the better looking girls all want $500

2. Chesterfield's / Doug & Marty. Zemlyanoi Val 26. Used to be good, but now good action is hard to find. Probably not worth your time on any night except Thursday and Friday. Mostly $200-$300 range.

3. Strip clubs. These will have a range of regular dancers, and the girls you can have sex with. The strip clubs have little sex rooms you can take the girl to, or if the girl agrees you can take her out of the club. The girl's 'day-off' fee to the club is usually 2x the fee of the little room. Price will be $150+ for the girl, and $50+ for the little room.
Check out
http://www.exile.ru/club_guide/
for club locations. I personally had a good time at Oh La La, Honey and Shandra. Others also like Egoiste and Spearmint Rhino. Avoid 911 VIP.

4. Street 'tochkas'. Quality of goods ain't what it used to be, but if you drive around with a good driver for a while you will usually find a good option. Prices from $50 to $200, sometimes higher.

[J Wadd]

Heya, guys:

I'm an old poster on the Brasil thread, and have been thinking of making a trip to Moscow. I've crawled this board and am left a little "spread out" to make any kind of intelligent approach to Moscow.

Can someone please post what, by concensus, seems to be the best 5 mongering spots in Moscow (clubs, discos, houses, free-lance clubs, etc.).

Also, what's the average price for a girl. 100-150USD? I hope not.

Thanks a lot in advance,
JWadd

[El Suave]

ogman,

unlike saint pete, moscow isn’t a print gazette or classifieds city. it has crappy local papers like 'chastnaya zhizn' (means private life) which offer crappy chicks who aren’t cheap. nor will you know how they look like till face to face. regardless of how good your russian is, the local print classifieds aren’t worth your time.

local muscovites resort to the internet for the hobby. in the moscow area the selection, quality and geographical distribution is second to none. the ultimate sites are ston.ru, zna.nu, intimhouse.ru and redclub.ru amongst others rep001tered on this board.

in the print classifieds everything is cryptic, on the net most everything is clear, 65% - 70% of the time what you see is what you get. and often what you get is comparable to what you saw. if you’ve basic russian skills you’ll succeed in either visiting salons (private hookers houses), or to a more difficult extent getting a viezd (a house call), house calls are a bit extra and harder to secure.

tochkas are all over moscow and in a constant state of flux. now in may and due to the festivities and dignitaries who’ll be in town, lineups will be subdued. however, here are some known locations separated by semicolons: near the university on leninski prospekt; across from the marriot grand; off the garden ring a 100 meters north of kurskaya metro on a small street called sadovi tup; down leningradskoe shosse on the way to sheremetyevo, outside the mkad, past the gai checkpoint and the grand mebel store; tverskaya metro underpass tochka (near pushkinskaya metro); east of mayakovskaya metro about 200 meters past a big supermarket on your right hand side.

for daytime tochka action, the only active lineups are on the way to sheremetyevo airport in an area called ximke or khimke, your tell will be the big ikea store.

finally, private or gypsy rides in moscow are no good at flushing out tochki, and sometimes won’t know what da fuck you’re talking about. your best bet are traditional yellow cabs, they cost a bit more, but they know where they’re going and won’t give you the shame on you look. hope this helps, good luck and come back with pictures.