2005 Moscow Reports

[Nickc]

To Dealdo, thanks for good report.

Your comment "I was lucky to pick up a 9 in Stalinsgrandky 150 dlls, That same day I stooped by in NF and a girl not as good as the tochka asked me 400 DLLS!! and you know they are very PROs." You are so right. NIghtflight is for lazy and unimaginative people. Would you pay 400 for a DVD player that you could get up the road for 150? But i can't talk. I've been in that boat before. Last friday i had had a few drinks and was out and about and i meet a 10, and my brain stopped working completely and I ended up paying 300. I haven't meet many 10's. Note well, a 10 is purely subjective, i can't stand those perfect models types. A 10 to me includes personality. She even had this beautiful Barbara Striesand nose How subjective is that!! But believe me when you meet your 10 you must act. I probably harp on to much about nightflight, but it just seems so out of touch. All that 80's glass and mirror, and nothing happens, its just so boring.

They even organise golf tournaments. How boring is that. They should put on some entertainment, That would make business sense. They should have private rooms on premises, they would make a lot more money, as would the girls. Now the Boarhouse! thats entertainment. I found some bizarre clubs in Archangelsk of all places. Suddenly the coldest place in Russia became the warmest. Excuse my rant, I don't edit, I just write.

Cheers

[Doctor_Skank]

MM and Dealdo:

150€/$200 for a tochka girl is too much in my opinion, however the $200/150€/6000 ruble category isnt really new. It has been around for at least 2 years. Not all tochkas offer it and it may in fact be a weekend phenomenon. Normally the standard $70-100-150 categories are offered, but this varies from tochka to tochka.

On slow weekdays the greed factor may actually go down. But then again, does the greed factor ever really go down in Moscow? I doubt it. It is all a matter of negotiation, and on a Saturday night the mamachka is holding all the cards.

On this particular Saturday night, as often on weekends, a 4 am tour to a few tochkas (it may have even been 5am... we had visited several clubs beforehand) yielded 2 choices:

* a severely picked over and skanky $100 category... undoable.
* an overpriced $150+ category

Since going home alone was not an option, Shos and I decided to take the best we could get. Shos did better than I did. Neither of my girls were 9s. GirlFriday was a 7+ and GirlSaturday was an 8... because of her body. Both were not the most passionate girls I've had, but solid performers. Shos's girls were sex demons, or perhaps he was just more charming than I was on those nights... Nonetheless, very satisfactory selections for both of us, especially considering the circumstances.

So as always, tochka is the proverbial box of chocolates and I got macedamia nut and pistaschio cream. Nonetheless, I was very happy to find any degreee of quality at all at the tochkas. For awhile it seemed as if the tochkas were becoming so skanky that they werent worth the effort anymore. But now I am keen to try again soon, perhaps on an upcoming slow Sunday night. Generally speaking, I have had very good luck with tochka girls and enjoy their attitude. I actually prefer the $100 category, provided they are cute enough. Even if not as hot as some of the $150 girls, they are almsot invariably excellent and passionate performers. But Dealdo is right about selecting early if possible, it is a good idea. The good $100 girls disappear early.

Since I personally prefer normal clubs on Friday and Saturday nights, tochka is only my failsafe (nuclear) option. And its not a buyer's market at 4am on a Sunday morning.

Dealdo is right about Kursky Voksal, it can be an excellent tochka and is one of my favorites, but it is also one of the most "monitored" tochkas in Moscow and you almost invariably have to take the ring road back from there into the center. So be careful taking your taxi back from there.

[Dealdo]

JQ: The prices of the Kursky tochkas are good in my opinion.. 3000 Rbls (100 DLLS about) the most expensive ones.. As I told you the mama has about 12 girls everyday But I saw 5 very good ones 7-8 and you can take them home all night long staring early.. I took Marina to dancing dinner and sex all night and she was more than happy, is an unbeatable price.

I have a taxi driver friend who know exactly where they are.. If you need his number let me know.. He doesn't speak English at all so you need somebody to help you.. If you are lucky you may find Tania in CF, She is one of my favorites there.. She works only Saturdays and eventually Sundays.. Guarantied satisfaction whit this sweetie...

Doc thanks for the tips.. I have a lot more tools for my next trip to Moscow, =) I hope we can coincide next time.

Mangus Man: I don't know about the prices before the perestroika in Russia,, but 200 DLLS for a tochka 9 points is a very good price.

I was lucky to pick up a 9 in Stalinsgrandky 150 dlls, That same day I stooped by in NF and a girl not as good as the tochka asked me 400 DLLS!! and you know they are very PROs.

The tochka girl gave me a tub massage,then she dance and striped for me.. she had a brand new lingerie and she didn't let me sleep all night long.. at brake time she cooked for me.. we had sex 5 times I guess and she seams not to have any desires of stopping.. I was exhausted but more than happy next day. I don't think we can find this kind of services for this price.. I don't like when the market goes up unfairly, but I believe that this girls really worth the money mama ask for them.

My humble opinion.

DeAldo

[Bez Bezarra]

Doc

Shouldn't the greed factor go down at the later hours of the night?
Meaning that if a dyev is only staying until morning, if you don't
grab her until 3 or 4AM, then the mama is expecting her to do
less work, not more. Especially with thinking that mongers are more
likely to be pretty drunk if still looking for pussy by 4 in the morning.

Ouch! 150 Euro=$195. Damn greedy. 10 years ago what was tochka price?
Does that mean in another 10 years they'll want 300 Euro?

[Doctor_Skank]

RM:

Tochkas are running normally and Shos and I recently bagged some very good quality girls from them, even at 4am. Maybe they were recylced picks from earlier that evening?

In any case, the tochka we ended up selecting from was close to Tsvetnoi Bulvar or Petrovsky Bulvar if memory serves, after our selection and winding through a couple of back streets we ended up coming out with the taxi around the casino on Pushkin square, meaning the ride home was short. Good thing, as militia presence was high.

However it must be noted that we paid "top dollar" on the tochka scale for our girls. On one night $150 and on the second even 150 €! There were no $100 girls that seemed worth taking, however it was very late and on the weekend.

Dealdo:

Ooh La La!: ul. Sretenka 1

Safari Lodge: ul. Pokrovka 32-34 (not so far from CF and near the Coffee Bean)

Shandra: Gazetny Pereulok 1/12 (across the street from Kamergersky (on Tverskaya))

By the way, you should look through the Moscow times, Exile, GO! or other similar expat-oriented publications. Not only do they have the addresses of the clubs, sometimes they'll have coupons, like free entry etc. (Free entry into the club, unfortunately not free entry into the orifice of your choice...)

[John Quakman]

Thanks to all for the advice and help yesterday. I found the number of a little sweetie I met on the last trip (see Aug, 2004 reports and pictures). Spent the evening getting reaquanted.

D

Thanks to you for your help. I think I might try a little "order in", as Cat puts it this afternoon any advice there is likewise appreciated. Tonight I will try CF and keep a Toschka tour as a back up plan. The early Tocshka you described is interesting. Are they the same $.

JQ

[Roger Mellie]

whats the tochka situation in Moscow at the moment? Are they running as per normal?

[Big Bro AJ]

Unfortunately I am not living in Moscow but I arrange weekend tours twice a month.

38 hours long sinful and joyful Moscow trips. As long as you have cash anything and everything is possible.

As foreign mongers we are potential targets for crimes. Some girls may ask $200 for an hour our Russian buddies may spent thousands of $ in couple of hours and Shandra or else, but still there are lots of people hunger for good life.

Anyway, ripp offs and small crimes are part of Moscow. Dyevs know that you are the just one purpose, spend cash load of money for hot Russkie babes.

In my humble opion NF has the best quality girls but that does not mean that the service will be great-just luck.

CF turn into brothel, you may hang out couple of times but the quality is going down.

Shandra is the best club for sex at the private rooms, most of the strip clubs are unfortunately bad copies of american style.

Bars/Discos catching a frebbie is always an option but watch out, wallet may not be the only valuable you may lose.

Internet girls, %60 of them are accurate and girls are real. You may find real pros from zna.nu and intimcity.ru My buddies and I tried lots of girls from both sites.

Saunas still looking a good one.

Instead of staying at a hotel, I prefer apartments(well I have lots of friends). Both have different advantages.

Safety rules are simple, never ever speak Russian with Milita. If you feel or tasted weird, don't finish your drink. Try not to stand too long infront of the metro maps or try not to use toursit booklets or guides.

Try to learn how to read Cyrillic alphabet. Learn the basic dialogs. Never ever use the regular taxi. Never ever fight with bodyguards or other Russians customers.

Never ever carry to much cash and credit card. Don't carry your money in one pocket. Try to look what you are doing and where you are going.

You may trust the girls at CF,NF and Shandra, and may go to their places. But I don' recommand other places or girls.

I will be in Moscow this weekend and on May 14-15.

Have fun,

Big bro

[Dealdo]

One o nine that's a very good question. I haven't found a place where you can see only 9-10s girls.

As you mentioned Night Flight eventually has one or three drop dead gorgeous. But they are aware of their beauty and the prices that Industrials and politicians can pay,, it wont be surprising to hear $500 or $600 and they don't stay all night long ... they always want to come back before the night is gone to rip some other big fish out.

Strip clubs sometimes have incredible estates made by Michael Angelo. BUT they don't provide sex service. grrrrrrrr

What I do is to pay for a private dance. Try to get her horny and then ask for her telephone number.. next day I call her, dinner drinks and the whole play, but is a lot of investing of energy and time, and sometimes is not very easy, they have boyfriends, a dramatic life to cover during the day, school, pimps, lack of money or just they don't like you.

In Rhino, Platinum, Divas, and Mister XXX you may find them.. If somebody knows a better way to get laid whit this strippers Please let us Know!

PtG: Gracias for the info about the pictures. I think we imagine that something "too good to be true" in this business si simply a trick, but we want very much to believe that this is our lucky day to hit the brains out of Aria Giovanni. This kind of forums are a life saver for us.. I'll try to be more realistic and less dreamer.

It would be very nice that we shared our best experiences, that way all of us can have better times and less frustrations =)

The best girl I was lucky to see and taste in Moscow is in the Internet anymore,, but if anybody want her number I have it, no idea if she still on biz now, but she is a 9 in my scale. No English is the bad part.

Stravinsky: THANK YOU veryyy much for the information,, is a shame I didn't know about her being in Moscow :banghead: .. and I can't go until August. but she will be my first try as soon as I get there.

I know about sextalk.ru. I visited the page but my Russian is minus Zero =(
next time I will need some friends to tell me about my selections.. this forum really help!! thanks again dude.. =)

Doc: do you have the address of Shandra, Safari and Ooh Lala? I couldn't find them and no taxi driver knew about them =(

Have a good one guys.

DeaLdo

[Doctor_Skank]

Steven… RTFF!

Safest? Hotel pros, NF, internet call-in, Safari Lodge strip club, Shandra

Reasonable, economic? : internet and cf

Night life guide: Try it by yourself, it aint that hard if you stick to the easiest well-documented methods posted here.

Hotel: stay in the center or at least inside the garden ring. DON’T STAY IN ROSSIA OR ANY OF THE SOVIET ERA HOTELS!

Best clubs (for pros): NF, CF, Shandra, Safari Lodge etc.

Dude, all this information has already been posted 2 dozen times. Do your homework before you go.

[Stravinsky]

JQ,

Я поздравляю Вас с вашим прибытием в Москву !

Good to see that all your preparation paid off. I envy you. I’m sure we’re all looking forward to some first hand reports. I don’t know how comfortable you are with your Russian skills, but if you want to try contacting some internet dyevs I can give the phone numbers. Sunday afternoon in Moscow with nothing in particular to do? I’d try the Tretyakov.

Dealdo – The best way to verify the accuracy of the internet dyevs is to read the posts from the local h@mbres on sextalk.ru. It seems to be understood that the girl you see in the photo will not be the girl who answers the door and typically they will comment that a girl is 60% like the photo or 80% like the photo. It’s rare to find one who is сто процентов Here’s one who comes highly recommended:

http://devushki.nu/ankets/1899/

счастливо,

Stravinsky

[Dealdo]

JQ: definitely for nigh hunting the best options in my opinion is CF and the tochka tour.. there is a place by Kursky metro but unfortunately the move constantly because the militia bug them a lot.. there are not to many but the few ones I saw where 8-9 young cuties.. this girls start early and go home early too 7:30 till 10:30 approx.. probably Rick can tell you.. in CF the best time is at 11 PM be patient and wait for all the dyevs to get there before somebody else choose the good ones..
NF is not my favorite place,, girls are very spoiled they think are the supermodels from Moscow.. Sincerely I had found the same quality in other places for the half of price,, NF in my opinion is for rich tourists who don't care to spend their money and crash the market out.

After 10 PM the best places for picking up tochka girls are Leningrandsky and Stalingrandsky, way far from the ring but well worth it the trip.

There is a prive near the university where you also can find nice girls 24 hrs
2000 RBIs the hour.. just to back up in case you can't find anything else.

Before night is a good option and many ads in the Internet.. from 50 dlls to 100 dlls DO NOT pay more you can find the same for less. If need telephones just send me a PM.

If you look for freebies most of the bars and dance clubs are optima but I heard there are some girls just hunting your wallet,, I was lucky not any girl did this to me so I ignore which are the places to be alert.

Good luck bro.

DeALdo

[Steven]

A lot of talk about safety, and while important, there is a lack of the kind of information I'm going to need on my upcoming trip.

Will be in Moscow in August. What is the safest and most reasonable and economic way to get laid? Is there some kind of local guide who can show us the 'sights'? How about Moscow Rick? If so, how can I contact him? Or what else should I know? In what part of town, or hotel should we stay? What are the best clubs or places to go to find the girls? Any information would be greatly appreciated, especially on parts of town and hotel.

Thank you.

[John Quakman]

Got here about 5pm yesterday completely exhausted from a three day FKK excursion and no sleep period Friday night. Ahshot from Moscow Rick was there to pick me up. Great guy, CAT fixed me up with him 1st time here last Aug for a Tocska tour.

I told him I was going to have to get some sleep but about 9:30 I wanted to head tp CF. Well, I slept until 10:30 and by the time I called him he had decided I was passed out for the night and he made a run out of Moscow. I told him not to come back in and we would hook up today.

I was pretty hungary and figured WTF I would venture a cab to NF. That went real well. The cabbie didn't speak english and my Russian is halting plus he had never heard of NF. Nonetheless I sorta remembered the address and off we went. His instincts were spot on and 2 blocks after turning on to Tvarsesky (sp) we were there at #13!

Had dinner and then plunged into the mass in the lounge. I had earlier spotted a sweetie going to the WC while I ate and was kinda looking for her. Sure enough there she was. We talked and she was a definate sweetheart, a $500, sweetheart for sure, but a sweetheart at any rate. Had to throw her back....sigh.

Oh well onward. Attracted the attention of others who left nothing to be desired but didn't get a vibe from any of them I was after. Then, Tatianna sat down and she was it and we were out of there. Unfortunately my insticts failed me as she was diligent but detached and I sent her on her way this AM with $200...sigh.

So here it is about 2pm Sunday and I'm rested and ready. The question is now what? I have some choices but lack the specific experience what to pick for Sunday action so I'm consulting the all knowing Vets of the Moscow WSG for advice. My thought is to whistle up Ashot and make a Tocska tour but still want to hit CF. I am open for advice for these choices or others and would welcome it eagerly.

I am at one of Rick's Apts on Gilarosky street and the phone # is 207 8592 if any mongers are up for some chasing tonight or any other time in the next 8 days.

[Peter The Great I]

Dealdo,

Read my posts in the St. Petersburg section about photos. If you take a better look at the first photo you see some vague horizontal curved lines in the left upper corner. This might be what is called a moiré effect, mostly caused when photos from a magazine are scanned with a scanner whose resolution is about the same as the resolution of the photo. When a "normal" photo is scanned, you dont see that effect, though good software can remove it. I don't say this chick doesn't exist, however there is a high probability that she never existed in that agency/apartment.

Use your senses. Photos/prices that are too good to be true usually are too good to be true.

The best way to check is call her, ask for her name and ask her if she's the same girl on the photo. Many scammers will then admit that she is "temporary unavailable" and offer another girl.

It needs some experience but I would judge this chick as "not available".

PtG