2005 Moscow Reports

[Gaffer]

Introduction:

Allow me to start with an introduction, as we are new to you, though you guys are well known to us. More about that below.

We are two Danish guys, Gaffer and Blomstermanden (Flowerpower), who know each others from a local Internet site 1), where we guys post reviews when we have visited “Goddesses” locally or abroad. We have met not only in cyberspace, so one day Gaffer offered a bonus ticket to Moscow to have an interpreter and a guide for the trip.
Having collected lots of information from this forum, sextalk.ru, WSA and the many sites, where the girls advertise, we felt confident, that our preparations were the best possible.

We had learned this:

· Things not to do in Moscow (list of 10 rules)
· Knowing the language is definitely an advantage, difference between success and failure
· Places to go, CF, NF, tochkas, strip bars, discos.....
· The bribery system; doormen like policemen
· The risk, that the girls might try intercourse without a condom.
· The base camp should be an apartment, not hotel
· Price level different places
· Transportation from the airport
· Difficulties reaching the girls by phone
· Importance of registering visa and how to get one
· Small valuable hints stored for occasional use

Thanks for all the help you guys have provided by handing over your advice on this site. We are sure, that you have saved us for a nice sum of money. We are not against spending money, but against wasting money. *S*

Prepared best possible, but not a guaranty against unforeseen events. *S*

We will by posting this report about our 6 nights in Moscow and our own experiences pay our debt to you *S* hoping, that it will be of some help for others planning on a vacation in this big city.

We started getting an invitation from visaru.ru. That was needed to get the visa. At the same time we made a reservation for an apartment on 22nd floor in the White House, Novy Arbat, dom 26. kv. 160. Pretty nice and ideal for our purpose. The view was impressive for the girls visiting us. We had 3 rooms, two of them with double beds. 140 $ a night compared with the price of two hotel rooms with less opportunity to share the girls. *S*

Day 1.

We arrived as planned having met a fellow Dane with whom we shared a taxi instead of having troubles with the bus/metro. We could have had a driver from the apartment.

The service from the person meeting us with the key was excellent. She was also the cleaning lady whom we met three days later, but not available. *S*

We got unpacked, prepared for the evening before we had dinner in “Rus’” Arbat U. with the Dane from the taxi. The price for a nice dinner was 1.000 rubbles. Much less than feared and expected from our studies. No wine. Eating all the week was not low budget, but much less expensive than anticipated. 600-1.000 rubbles. Money saved meant more money for divushki (girls).

Our goal for the first evening was Chesterfield, Doug’s Bore House. On this Tuesday night there were 3 girls to 2 men. The girls were eager to create contact, but the Danish Party wanted to sit and make observations. Presently two girls, having passed our table three times, asked for permission to sit down. Granted, as they by look were in the upper fourth of the present girls. Conversation was soon getting to business. Both wanted $ 200 (we forgot to negotiate the time, assuming, that it was for the night). Patricia insisted on that amount, while Gaffer got Katjas price down to $ 150 and the girls should pay for the taxi (which they forgot *S*). Then we had to pay extra 20 $ each to the doorman. The girls would not meet outside.

Patricia got the money and by mistake! Also her 200 $. Stupid!

Next mistake. We took the cab just outside CF instead of turning round the corner to find the next. (500 r. down to 400.) It was cold, one o’clock at night and we were eager to bring the girls home. Too eager, but remember; it was the first night. *S*

Nor did we look for other cars in the vicinity with people making their observations.

At the walls of Kremlin’ our taxi was stopped – by three militiamen. The girl’s papers checked. OK. So what! Our papers were checked – the registration of visa already completed and fully in order. But not OK, according to the talking policeman. And we did not bring our return ticket, as he demanded. A small fine was demanded. SMALL! $ 300. Outrageous! Could be divided by 3. Another mistake: Flower power shoved his good knowledge of the Russian language! Instead of keeping to English.
While Flower power negotiated with the girls, where to meet, trying to save his investment!!! Gaffer was unfortunately seated in the car to be taken to the station. I shall not pester you with the boring details of the negotiations, threats about phoning to the Posol (Ambassador), which I offered to do myself and so on. Just mention, that we after more than half an hour of sightseeing in the centre of Moscow were released having paid 100 $. (They finally wanted 105 to be divided by 3.) My concern was not the authorities, the station or whatever. What I feared the most was to be left 40 kilometres outside the City with a Do svidania! (See you!)

They did not drive us home, though I asked them to for the money, so we found at freelance taxi and paid him 140 r. that satisfied him much.

Next morning the number to my friend Soeren, the Danish Military Attaché was stored in the phone! And the camera in the phone was ready to shoot. *S*
But most important! There was never during our stay an occasion like this for the militia to exploit. We found other means.

Back to the girls, which we picked up at a bar close to the apartment. The bill for tea and juice had increased 1000 rubbles. Nice bar and some of the celebrities in Moscow were pointed out to us. *S* the jet set!

We had fun from the start in the apartment. Dancing while having champagne, undressing and taking shower - and some photos. The intimacy grew.

The sex with Patricia was worth the high price. She was warmed up with massage and mentally with music by Enya. The atmosphere was fine creating a good basis for mutual enjoyment and sexual release for both of us. Cunnilingus for a long while Oral was without preservative, well performed and the 3 hours with a break to have some more champagne and a little conversation allowed three rounds. Patricia had plenty of time, and had it not been for Katja, who could not finish the deal fast enough according to Gaffer, I am convinced, that the girls would have stayed overnight with the possibility for and nice morning wake up. *S*

Strange, as Katja was having the initiative closing the business, promising a nice experience with her smile and sparkling eyes. Patricia had hidden all the goodies to bedtime.

The girls left after app. 3 hours. It was hard to fall asleep though six in the morning, but too many thoughts keep both awake for a while. A lesson or two richer.

We broke many rules on the first night, but how to react was not rehearsed.

The most severe of them was to get into a car with more than one person – even on the request of a militiaman.

They could have been fake, even their documents, but real uniforms.

Had I not paid Patricia up front, we would have been freer to dismiss the girls.
I could go on.

The cowboys had come to town. *S*

1) www.venuslogen.dk the site has celebrated six years of existence, though the name has changed once due to severe interest from the Danish authorities in connection with the Law of registering personal information. It was started by a small group of customers, who had a common interest and a desire to discuss it with somebody: Visiting girls for money. The atmosphere was like the one you find in men’s dressing room after a football match. *S* Today it has turned more commercial, but the content is the same. Twice annually, Christmas and summer, we have a party, where we meet the girls under other circumstances. Dinner-dance! Your two guys met on this site and decided to have a beer together or two while discussing new girls in town. Many a friendship have started this way leading to activities like visiting FKK in Germany together, parties with 4 girls/4 men in a cabin in the countryside dressed in “penguin” and long dress and this months a trip to Moscow. One important thing is the respect for the girls we love to meet in different ways.

Day 2.

What we learned from the evening before, and the success with other ways of meeting girls, was the decisive influence in not going to Nightlight or other entertainments from where a taxi was needed. We were not in Moscow for partying and beer drinking, nor for supporting talking policemen with wife and two kids.

We had seen, that the service for one hour of an escort girl could be had in their apartment too; for 50-100 $. So meeting them in their own premises just for an hour to see what you would get before inviting for a whole night was our plan. We decided to find a massage parlour to have massage, and to find two girls for a later meeting.

We dialled the number and got a street name that was not shown on our detailed map. Figures and names are rather difficult to capture in any language, because they are spoken fast and you cannot guess missing parts from the context.

Therefore during 4 calls we got detailed description for the next bit of the way. Finally we were in the flat and 6 girls entered the dining room, where we were waiting. Flower power had sympathy for a small dark-haired girl Dasha. There was immediately promising eye contact with the cutie. Gaffer chose Elja and Sonja, and Valja followed Dasha.
Massage playing the instrument by 4 hands. After a while in heaven it was time for Flowerpower to make a decision. Gaffer had already with a little help from the interpreter chosen two girls for the intimate part of the massage. Flowerpower wanted to be alone with Dasha, though Valja was the best performer till now.

Dasha obviously experienced something new. A client that asked her to be the passive part of the game. For a long time. She got in Heaven, helped by the tongue and fingers of Flower power. After a break for Dasha to recover she was more than eager to pay back. Which she knew how to do. Perfectly.

Finally we lay back looking deeply into each other’s eyes.

Right now was the moment to ask her to bring a girlfriend to our apartment. She had worked in Moscow for three years and never performed outside the apartment. But she announced, that she would like to meet me on the 22nd floor of Dom 26. After a dinner for four.

I got her mobile number ( 3 more people have that number, so do not ask me for it. Find the link, that we post later and go and visit that little pearl! And you will not find any personal photos, only a link. The private shots are in my personal safe. *S*). Next day we agreed on meeting one day later. Unfortunately it was impossible for her to start with dinner as promised. She could not either speak freely on the phone of the apartment, so she switched on her mobile..

She would bring a girlfriend for Gaffer. Hopefully Sonja, whom he preferred to Elja.

The rate was 4000 rubbles for each of them for the evening until the morning.

Flower power could hardly wait till the fourth day to meet this little sweetheart.

Gaffer is said to have had an exceptional performance from the two girls, especially their oral skills and he being the meat in a sandwich got high ratings.

Gaffer paid 85 $ for 1½ hours with two girls and Flower power 65$ for ½ hour massage with two girls followed by one hour of intimate massage with lovely Dasha.

Your guys had learned the lesson. No taxis, only metro, where the militiawoman accepted the registrations on the spot.


The 3rd day.

Sweet dreams followed the experience from day two. No night program disturbed that.
In the daytime we went sightseeing like on day 2, where Moscow showed a new face compared to the latest visit in the year of the Olympics, not to mention the period in 1974-5, when Flower power worked in the City. Street names have changed after the Soviet period, so have GUM and a lot of other things. But basically it was the same city, just with a set of new people and new ways of living. Even the smell of bad perfume was no longer in the metro.

It was time to look in the binders with lots of photos and reviews printed from the Internet and especially sextalk.ru. Experience from calls from Denmark to the apartments/girls showed, that it was necessary to be well equipped with possibilities, as 15 out of 17 either did not answer or cut the line without one word. One of the two said, that they did not meet foreigners. Only one was cooperative.

So the three favourites were placed on the table near the phone.

Big was the surprise, that we had a double date on the first call; with Renata and Lera. Two girls working on their own as individualki. They told, that they kept all the money themselves, but had expenses to Internet advertising, apartment (600 $ a months for two) and other necessities. They wanted $250 for 6 hours each. As they were our number one choice out of several hundreds we felt lucky.

And it was very nice to meet the girls. Leras photos were very much representing the girl that showed up. Renata’s photos were maybe 4-5 years old, or worked over with Photoshop. But the eyes were the same, just a bit more promising that on the photos. More experienced. The eyes and their expression of self-confidence mostly caught flower power. She was the leader of the two.

Not only Flower power liked Renata. Renata liked Renata. *S* She liked to pose in front of a camera. She showed off and the shots that did not satisfy the Lady should be recaptured. Renata got more and more teasing, which provoked Lera to take part in the party. Or did the cool champagne play a role?

Soon the four split up in two rooms. Renata wanted to make photos while finishing undressing and posing on the bed, but never vulgar ones showing her more intimate parts. When she heard, that Flower power had a video camera, her eyes sparkled.

In that respect she was a good actress. She teased in front of the camera inviting to get closer and to ..... But only teasing.

Now Renata was asked to relax for the next long period. That was very difficult for her in the beginning but little by little it went naturally. *S* Flower power has learned a little techniques connected with tantrum and erotic massage. Though some of it did not succeed Renata went flying, experiencing some feelings in her body that she had never felt before. It was a great experience for Flower power too to work with such a responsive media.

Having gained some new energy Renata was allowed to show her skills. The inspiration made her perform excellently, though using a raincoat for the oral part of it too. Flower power took off like a flying carpet with Renata on top, her eyes full of energy and excitement realizing what pleasure she had developed inside the body of Flower power.

Gaffer and Lera were on round two, when Renata cuddled in the sofa in the arms of Flower power asking him, what he had done to her.

Tantrum and charka were new words to Renata, but she was more than willing to be taught a little theory followed by more exercises during the next 3-4 hours. She indeed was a willing pupil, and when she left after 6 hours, very eager to study the subject more closely on her own.

We all had a wonderful time. Studying hundreds of photos, reviews and the like before choosing the pair (of eyes *S*) was a total success to preparation – maybe with a little luck, too.

250 $ for each, 6 hours, seems a good bargain compared with the quality of the whole atmosphere and the relieving sex. It was a girlfriend experience, but would not have been possible had Renata’s knowledge of the English language been the basis for the conversation. We would hardly have had 30 seconds on the phone.

Photos will be posted under photo section

Best regards
Flower power & Gaffer

[Stravinsky]

Big Bro AJ,

Thanks for the report. Very clever, you arrive Saturday morning, party all night in the clubs and leave Sunday night. No need for a hotel room, so you saved some money there. I wish Moscow was only a 2 hr. flight from the U.S. But then, it would probably be full of obnoxious American tourists.

Can you give us some idea of where Gwen Molly's and Vienna are located?

счастливо,

Stravinsky

BTW - Who's Jack?

[Stefano]

Dear all,

I am coming in Moscow again on business trip. I am looking for young attractive interpreter with additional sex responsibilities. The girl/woman must be professional interpreter with professional appearance and behaviour. Additionally she must satisfy my sex needs once or twice in the day time or in the evening. She may be a student of the last year or young professional, she can be single or cheating wife. She must have big breasts and wide heaps, preferably grey or blue eyew. I will be very thankful for the recommendation of the right woman. I am not looking for any girlfriend - boyfriend relationship, each next trip to Moscow I want to have a new such interpreter. In my turn I can recommend my interpreter. I already used her for interpreting and sex. She provided all her kind services very well at rather low price. However, I do want to experience these wonderful moments each time with new girl or woman.

Stefano

[Big Bro AJ]

I have been to Moscow for the weekend. Almost 38 hours. Some of my friend thought that I am crazy. But there is a strange magic attracts me in Moscow, hard to describe.

Currently I am practicing law in Istanbul. It takes 2 and 30 mins. flight from Istanbul to Moscow.

Any way, I arrived Moscow (Sher. II) on Saturday morning at 6:30. After the negotiation, we were dealed for $40 from Sher II to Kolemanskaya. Thank god, the car was a Passat. Moscow looked awesome early in the morning. After a 40 min. drive I arrived my buddy’s apartment. We had breakfast together and went to his office. We hanged around till 11:00 and I took the Metro to go to Tverskaya. This time I drop off at Thetralnaya for the longer walking tour. Tverskaya through Red Square. It was colder than New Year but who cares I was in Moscow.

Again I took lots of pics. And went to GUM(classy shopping mall at Red Square). Had coffee next to the golden fountain to warm myself. Than headed to Garbuskaya to buy Russian dvds. EE girls, I dated in Istanbul love to watch movies in Russian.

After a long day, we had dinner at Gwen Molly’s. Waitresses were dressed up like pin up girls(or college cheer girls) They looked very sexy with the mini skirts. Around 22:00 we headed to Oh La La, the cover was 650 Rb. per person. The place is at the very top floor of a 3 floor high building. It was dark and looked a little cheesy. Mostly 7-8/10 girls all around and they shake their asses in front of the mirrors and they thought this is dancing. Any way we were surrounded with girls and they forced us for a lap dance. 100Rb per dance. Jack is 280 Rb… I liked one of the girls and had a one hour long 1 round sex included private dancing. It cost me $100 and 400Rb.

Around 24:00 we moved to Shandra, last time we had a lot of fun. Saturday night suppose to be cool but the place was dead and the girls were mostly 6-8/10. Cover was 650 Rb and jack was 300 Rb. We stayed there something around 40 mins and had one very bad lap dance.

When we went to Safari, it looked cheesser than the Oh La La.

Instead of going to Rhino or Dolls, we decided to go to NF. As usual cover was 750 Rb. jack was 350 Rb. One of the best services of NF is the exchange office. As the head of the security said “Cash is king” at NF. He is a great guy, unfortunately can not recall his name, I was a little drunk. Anyway, we headed to the bar and we were surrounded with beautiful women wall. Very few men and lots of hot babes all around. It was heaven on earth. I saw two zna.ru girls, who are asking $400 all night long. I kept drinking, talking and watching the Britney Spears look like dancer who was dancing on dance floor, the one top of the main door.

I prefer to go my friends place with petite dirty blonde, tattoo on her belly. It cost me $300 till morning(it was already 03:00). Unlimited sex (I could only manage two with luck and Mr.V, I was so wasted), she looked 9/10,sex was 9/10, it was a mixture of GFE and PSE. My friend again decided to hang out with the Asian girl whom we spent time together last time. She had a great body and awesome bed performance but her silicon lips look terrible.

Sunday morning I woke up around 13:00, we headed to Vienna café for the Sunday brunch and left Moscow with 22:30 flight.

This weekend trip cost me $1000(everything included) Is it worth to spend this much money for 38 hours. Maybe not, but it was a great break for me. I felt better. And already make plans to go to Moscow on 23-24 April.

Long of short, NF is the place to hang around. It depends on your luck and crowd. It was Saturday night at 01:00 and NF was empty(compare to New Year season). There were 6-7/10 girls and lots of top of the line girls. Everything depends on your Negotiation skills and the color of money.

Safari and Oh La La, it was my last time to hang out those places. Shandra this time, was a big disappointment. In my next trip I will go to Dolls and Rhino.

“Cash is King” that explains every thing in Moscow. Anything is possible as long as cash flows.

[Lesotut]

Hello!

This forum is simply great, so many valuable contributions! Great!

I am going to spend few days in Moscow and I was wondering whether one can find hairy beauties, I mean girls very hairy down there who don't even know what a rasor looks like. It's maybe a kind of "out of trend" but I like the natural way very much.

Any suggestion?

Thanks in advance,

Lesotut

PS: I'm keen to share in this forum any experience I'll manage to have on the subject - if of any interest ;-)

[CA Traveler]

Found out through the rumor mill that a new lease has been inked for what will be the "new" CF/D&MBH... Don't know if the name will change or not. Apparently it is not too far from the old CF and have not heard any mention of timing.

[Guy #2]

PS And the only one that is bitching like a [Deleted by Admin] is you.

Having been a long time resident of the NE US I've been to Montreal about 50-60 times. With it's large open gay population, drug culture and very open prostitution what makes you think the HIV rate is lower in Montreal?

Are you basing this on anything factual or on Russia being an EE country therefore the HIV rate must be higher there?

Oh yeah, minus two points in general for throwing in an opinion on some place you've never been.

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending removal of Personal Attacks in the text. To avoid delays in future reports, please do not post Personal Attacks in the Forum. Thanks!

[Guy #2]

I am not running for the guy with the biggest dick contest. I am just stating an opinion. I am very thorough before I do something. I am not interested in dying. I got the statistics from the CIA website.

Having been a long time resident of the NE US I've been to Montreal about 50-60 times. With it's large open gay population, drug culture and very open prostitution what makes you think the HIV rate is lower in Montreal?

Are you basing this on anything factual or on Russia being an EE country therefore the HIV rate must be higher there?

Oh yeah, minus two points in general for throwing in an opinion on some place you've never been.

[CA Traveler]

Inos... First of all.. why worry about the GR towns? Isn't Moscow large enough to find something you like? There are at least 1,000 Moscow girls for every GR girl. More importantly, Moscow is huge and you will not be likely to run into any other people that she knows. I've gone out with married women and girls with several brothers on many occasions. I promise you that that problem is one of the least important things to worry about.

I use love.mail.ru and omen.ru all of the time... been laid many times, but more times than not I just don't have time to see all of the girls who write.

[Inostranets]

Does anybody use the love section of mail.ru to pick up freebies? There seem to be quite a lot of really cute 19yr olds on there. Just wondering how you go about getting them into bed without actually pretending to want to have a long relationship, and how you cut off contact with them afterwards. I'm just wary after an experience in a golden ring town with the rather large brother of a girl I fucked, in both senses of the word.

[Member #3309]

Hello? I search all info about Hotel Ukraine.

Thanks

[Stravinsky]

ICQ is a great way to meet lots of women in a hurry, from all over the world.

The big problem I've always found with ICQ is that it's very seldom that any of the women will post pictures of themselves. And the ones they do post can't always be relied on.

It's true that slavic women are some of the most beautiful in the world, IMHO, but they ain't all beauty queens. Better make sure to get a current photo from them before you plan any meetings.

счастливо,

Stravinsky

[Ludovico]

Shos', you must be a diplomat or something because you put that so nicely (either that or you're on some happy pills!). I think the rest of us would have responded solely by writing RTFF

Doc, I tried your ICQ idea and it works like a treat! The first time I tried it I found some nice Ruski poontang as well as a couple of Ukie's. This could prove to be way better than the dating site option!

[Shostakovich]

Hi Toni,

it's nice to see new people in the Moscow board!

From all your 13 posts, only 12 were questions!!!

I'm really looking forward, to read valuable new infos about Moscow, from your point of view.

BTW all informations you asked for, you can find by using the search function in the Moscow tread.

Have a nice time in Moscow

Shos

[Toni Tiikeri]

Hi all fellow mongers,

I am coming back to Moscow again and this time staying at hotel Golden Ring at Smolenkaya street. Any comments or advise about the hotel and whether there is any action at the hotel or near it.

Fast replies appreciated as always.

I'll be reporting later on.

*Toni*