Essi in Kishinev

[Defence]

The misplacement of my post in General Info section directed me to here where my previous posts are

Anyway guys, I returned from my 3rd trip and it was fantastic, my #2 is not virgin anymore I again spent 4 days and 100$ daily. But this time we weren't to discos and bars but stuck in the apartment. Left the apartment for only eating and the rest spent eating each other but from the expereiance point, I ate her most of the time and she got crazy about it.

Anyway, It was a great operation and lost all my energy, my muscles, my legs all tired. I needed a week of vocation here but now I am back to normal.

Will be there in April also.

Happy hunting to you all.

[Defence]

Hello again,

Until October 2006, I had no idea about KIV. I saw some friendship websites here and signed up. As the time progressed, I started to have contacts. I chat with them and when I think it is time to give a visit to lovely one, I directly go to my #x gf. I ask her to find apartment and wait for me at the airport etc because I have no idea about KIV (it is the truth, I dont know and dont wanna know so far). I prefer it this way. While this may look awkward, it helps a lot to establish a good level of trust between me and my gf.

As I am the guest, mostly I dont say anything about where to go what to do. I sometimes direct her to a place I wanna go but make sure that she decided to go to that place.

I stay there 4-5 days with my #x gf and return and on average I spend 100$ daily.

I did 2 visits so far and 3 more chicks are almost ready, 1 in Romania and 2 in Moldova. I will go to cook them soon and things are getting more complicated everyday. 1 month ago, I was asking for help about how not to be caught by number 1 and now I have 2 more in KIV. I love dangerous encounters and adventures. God help me ...

I wish I could send some pics but I can't so far.

[Defence]

Hello guys,

I just returned from my KIV tour yesterday. I visited my number #2 for the first time. Thanks to the advices given and careful planning I am not caught by #1 and her friends.

Total damage in KIV is 400$ for 4 days all inclusive. Stayed in an apartment in another part of the city far away from the place I stayed with #1, didnt go to the restaurants and discos I went with #1. The result is 4 wondeful days with my 2nd girlfriend.

As I guessed earlier, I was always with my virgin gf and couldnt do what Essi was advising.

Now, waiting for another visit but still not decided to which one.

Happy hunting to all

[Essi]

Hi

What doctor wrote in his last post its exactly what i mean and maybe my english is not profesional like his but thats exactly what i mean

The game what I call here is just a way to the girl heart and ....

I dont live in moldova just come for business few times a year.

ESSI

[CharlieH]

I agree with Doc. It's much harder going in solo and blind, not speaking the language and not having local contacts. And time constraints ain't helping, either.

Essi, I think what you call "game", is what the great Doc calls local knowledge, contacts and the reason to be there (as opposed to being a sex tourist). Therefore in a way, you and Doc agree on principle.

And the "game" that you refer to, is what makes or breaks the experience in Moldova. Unfortunately most mongers don't live in Moldova and don't have contacts there either.

[DG69]

THE DOCTOR IS RIGHT.

In the non pro scene and Moldova has not a reasonable p4p scenen it's a hit and miss game. If a monger is good in his hometown than he might be good in Kishinev als well. If he is a shy guy than he is wrong in Moldova, because there you have to be a macho.
For such guys Asian countries like Indonesia or Malaysia are better.

[Doctor_Skank]

My dear doctor

If you read carefuly I wrote if the monger come with ready numbers and contact there is no reason that he will not score...

Whe a monger come to kishinev , kiev, tellin or any other destination he need to follow the advices of the guys who experince in this place and thats the reason of our board.

ESSI

Of course info is what this forum is about and the well-informed monger will do better than somebody flying blind. Real info is appreciated.

I am just trying to draw a conclusion from the info posted here and the other EE forums.

My basic hypothesis is correct. In country experience, time, knowledge and most of all at least part-time residence improve your opportunities to score. Of course some guys are going to come to Kish and straight off get lucky. Others, doing exactly the same as the first group, may go home without much action. Being around for another couple days or weeks would have easily turned those "leads" into scores. Tourists don't have that much time, not to mention the knowledge and local cred/status. There is nothing controversial or accusative about this statement. It's just common sense and real life EE experience and very basic monger 101.

It's like the "game" you mention... obviously enhanced by knowledge of the rules (or lack thereof), natural skill and the right conditions to put it to use.

Even at that, often no amount of perfect "game" will save even the stone coldest playa from striking out.

Have seen it happen over and over, and to guys much more "playa" than myself. Mr.Cool thinks he owns the world and then runs up against a brick wall of blonde hair, blue eyes and long tanned legs, stumbling back to his VIP table trying to hide the embarassed angry pain on his face.

Terms like 'immediately', 'always' and 'every' just don't reflect reality.

[Essi]

My dear doctor

If you read carefuly I wrote if the monger come with ready numbers and contact there is no reason that he will not score...

Whe a monger come to kishinev , kiev, tellin or any other destination he need to follow the advices of the guys who experince in this place and thats the reason of our board.

ESSI

[Doctor_Skank]

Dear doctor

I am sorry to tell you but you are tottaly wrong with your opinion.

For example if I will fly to moscaw I have already 3-5 girl that I can get laid immidietly with them even I will stay there just for few days.

The reason for that is "gaming" I already chat with them and promise them that I will come to moscaw, in this relationsof chatting no money involve no cell phone or similar things, yes there was girls who try to ask money for sick brother mother aunt and so on but i never reply and avoid it.

When I will be in moscaw ofcourse I will buy them nice flowers for the feelings a nice perfum and the way to her pussy is open, its work 80% with the EE girls
n general the russian mentality is more open to sex than the western or american girls for them sex is not somethinfg special that she will block you and let you to wait and wait like our girls it is much easy with the EE girls.

In tiraspol for example even its much easier if you meet a girl in disco or bar and show her 50 $ she will come with you the same night its not a big dill for them to have sex on the first night, much easier even than in kishinev.

So with this calculation if a monger comes to kishinev with his contact numbers from the chatrooms befor as I have seen myself some guys did, they get laid on the first or the second night.

I just want to say its much easier if you know how to play the game. dont be soft and gentle and don't be generous with girls just learn to say NO when it need. if she will ask you after the second day buy me cloth for 200 $ mean that you will have a different request every day and be her cash machin for her needs dont worry she have a long shopping list for you to buy her. just try to delay the shopping and say nice goodbye befor you fly and ignor her list.

Its just my opinion from years of exsperience.

ESSI

I don't think I am wrong, being local or a frequent traveller does make the work much easier... the experience in dealing with the girls alone is worth it's weight in gold.

If you didnt have experience in dealing with EE women you wouldn't be able to score as effectively as you reportedly do, or am I wrong.

So if I am totally wrong in my thesis, what is the reason that so many people seemingly fail in Moldava when it is so easy to have 3-5 girls "immediately"? A simple lack of understanding or bravado?

Do you think you'd do as well in Kish if you went in there "flying blind" without knowledge of the local landscape and on a schedule that didn't allow you the time to wait for the fish to come back to the bait?

I only ask (and I know this subject is being beaten to death) because as a casual observer of this thread, it seems that relative success in Kish is being measured on separate scales.

[Essi]

Dear doctor

I am sorry to tell you but you are tottaly wrong with your opinion.

For example if I will fly to moscaw I have already 3-5 girl that I can get laid immidietly with them even I will stay there just for few days.

The reason for that is "gaming" I already chat with them and promise them that I will come to moscaw, in this relationsof chatting no money involve no cell phone or similar things, yes there was girls who try to ask money for sick brother mother aunt and so on but i never reply and avoid it.

When I will be in moscaw ofcourse I will buy them nice flowers for the feelings a nice perfum and the way to her pussy is open, its work 80% with the EE girls
n general the russian mentality is more open to sex than the western or american girls for them sex is not somethinfg special that she will block you and let you to wait and wait like our girls it is much easy with the EE girls.

In tiraspol for example even its much easier if you meet a girl in disco or bar and show her 50 $ she will come with you the same night its not a big dill for them to have sex on the first night, much easier even than in kishinev.

So with this calculation if a monger comes to kishinev with his contact numbers from the chatrooms befor as I have seen myself some guys did, they get laid on the first or the second night.

I just want to say its much easier if you know how to play the game. dont be soft and gentle and don't be generous with girls just learn to say NO when it need. if she will ask you after the second day buy me cloth for 200 $ mean that you will have a different request every day and be her cash machin for her needs dont worry she have a long shopping list for you to buy her. just try to delay the shopping and say nice goodbye befor you fly and ignor her list.

Its just my opinion from years of exsperience.

ESSI

[Doctor_Skank]

I think one source of the constant arguments on this board in terms of the ease of bagging Moldovan women is the general misconception that you can come for 1-2 weeks and achieve the same kind of success as someone who has been there for years.

As Essi said, it is important to play games with the girls... the same kind of games they play with you. Essi can afford to do that... he has the time to wait for the fish to come back and take his bait.

The average tourist monger doesn't have time to wait... and has to more actively hunt and force the issue. Quite often, this can lead to the monger "getting played" and not "doing the playing"... it also makes the desperate tourist monger easy game for even marginally skilled local girls trying to milk men for all they are worth.

Same is true with prices. Occasional tourists budget in a certain amount for their trips and using the logic that "this would cost $$$ in California" or "this would cost €€€ in Rome" and that they MUST get laid, they blow their cash like there was no tomorrow.... because for them, there is no "tomorrow".

Locals or regular travellers who have to live with market prices on a regular basis worry much more about what prices will be like tomorrow and next week. Tourist mongers don't give a damn because they won't be around.

[Essi]

Hello

I think wwrrot is willing to follow our advice and not to be fool by one stupit moldovan girl so why to ignor him if he need help.

As I mention here many times moldovan girls are nice and love sex yes I repeat it love sex so we have to be the wise ones to know how to get it.

I can't say everyone can do it and espacialy who stay short time but who learn the girls atitude here and know the key games can rest for a minute the girls will run sfter him for ever.

ESSI

Lets go back to our hobby and try to laid as much as we can.

Anyone in kishinev soon? for the new year?

[Daytripper30]

I have so much time I imagine things and waste my time in a country that most people do not know of!

You have no materials and nothing to share on this board and instigate members who honestly share experience.

[Essi]

Hi Guys

Now in kishinev all the students are busy and study day and night for the examines not easy to shag with them.. the exams will be till the 30th of december after they will go home to their village and spend with the family the new year

The moldovan cristmas is the orthodox on the 7th of january and not as in western on the 25 and 31 december new year.

The town will be empty but on the evening of the new year you can go to mounoment on stefan cell mare they have big party with music aouthentic show and many girls from the villages comming and drinking a lot of champain and vodka.

Happy new year to you mongers.

ESSI

[Daytripper30]

You have a good deal there

You have an employee you can bang and not get in trouble.

In California, just by touching a girl that works for you. You are in VERY big trouble. You can lose your job, business and go to jail.

I hope eastern europe never turns into like the western nations!