Angeles City - 2005 Reports

[Ear Muff Diver]

Columpuss,Lets not rain on the parade of the guy,Whatever his reasons,There are fine dining options in AC,Yats inside Clark is one of the better restaurants in the whole country with a wine cellar consisting of over 30,000 bottles of wine worth over 1.5 million us dollars,Cottage Kitchen has the greatest creole food in the PI IMHO.Get the picture,Some Serniors like GE,Ilongo Boy,Dragon Slayer,Myself to name a few can appreciate a good meal,Different strokes for different folks.

I agree completely about the restaurants. Country Cottage is indeed a gem.. but only go when you are really hungry as they provide excellent yet large portions. Another gem is C's Italian Restaurant. Whilst not cheap ( be prepared to pay almost European prices ) the food is excellent, and is one of the better Italian places I have eaten at that reminds me of my time living in Italy !

[Member #1005]

Tooch,

Thanks for the interesting post; I have to agree with much of what you have said. On one point, on what the girls earn, what you should also note is that they do not live rent free and what many are charged in what I would consider extortionate.

Having visited several of the places where the girl’s live, I was surprised by the amount of rule and regulations – the most common being no male visitors. Yes, I agree that many of the bar girls may be choosy about whom they go with and in my visits to AC occasionally saw a girl in tears who was straight from the provinces now into a bar on stage in a thong, being forced to go with a customer by the mamasan.

The moral of this story is if you treat the girls’ like a ‘human being’ this will go much further than a fistful of Pesos. I can never understand why it is that guys claim they cannot get GFE up there because if you cannot get it there you will never get it anywhere, you might as well stay at home. I still keep in touch, by e-mail and Yahoo messenger with many girls from AC, many who have since moved on and some of these girls I met last year.

[Tooch]

I had a chance to meet many of my regular's friends and see how they live. We needed to stop by her room to pick up some of her stuff. Basically, there is just enough room for the 10 of them to all cuddle up on the floor. How they even manage that is a mystery. Apparantly, this arrangement is greatly preferable to what most bargirls endure. Most stay in whatever recesses of their bar they can find room. They are packed-in like sardines and there are worries about safety of person and property in this situation.

One insight that amazed me is that many bargirls view their job as "just another job" that is preferable to their other options. This is the setup. Most of the reputable bars pay an average of 120 Pesos/night for the girl to dance only. If they dance in a T-back, there is a premium of 30-50 Pesos/night. Now, if you average 25 nights/month of dancing at 120 Pesos/night, the girl makes 3000 Pesos a month. This is about comparable to what the girl could make as a gas station attendant, shop worker or other low skill job. Now, add on the Ladies drinks to the income. If the girl gets 10 drinks/week, she can add 500 pesos/week or 2000 Pesos/month. Thus, the income is now 5000 Pesos/month -on average. This is actually a decent amount to earn for a single woman away from home. They can still send money home as well as buy things for themselves. Further, they don't need to work too hard. They get to hang out with their friends, listen to music and dance every now and again. For perspective, a friend of mind who is a veterinarian makes about 15000 Pesos/month in Manila (a more expensive environ). With this, she supports a family of four and sends her two kids to private school.

The bargirls are not obligated to accept your barfine for sex. In fact, I met more than a few girls who are very choosy and barfine seldom. Basically, many don't feel that they desperately need the money. If they like the man, then that is a different story. There may be a message here for some of the middle-aged men I saw leering at the girls and getting little attention! Being middle-aged doesn't matter, but being a creep does. Thus, try being a nice person who is polite and seems like fun. It will go a long way. Of course, there are girls that will barfine for anyone, but I doubt you would get much of a girlfriend experience from it.

The bargirls on Santos Street have a much different story. These girls typically get paid only on commission - whether by drinks or barfines. The bargirls at the blowjob bars are the saddest of the lot. Many are so desperate for cash that they perform unsafe sex and become sick.

Anyway, those are my comments for today.

Cheers,
Tooch

[Cebu Local]

sexwithsmile

Buddy! nothing personal. Fine dinning in AC? Having a stimulating conversation with a girl? You're another Mr. Howard on the island aren't you?

AC is FFF. You eat to get the energy to FFF. Most of your conversation is about FFF.

If you're a hardcore monger, AC is perfect. If not, save your money.

Columpuss,Lets not rain on the parade of the guy,Whatever his reasons,There are fine dining options in AC,Yats inside Clark is one of the better restaurants in the whole country with a wine cellar consisting of over 30,000 bottles of wine worth over 1.5 million us dollars,Cottage Kitchen has the greatest creole food in the PI IMHO.Get the picture,Some Serniors like GE,Ilongo Boy,Dragon Slayer,Myself to name a few can appreciate a good meal,Different strokes for different folks.

[Tooch]

I had a great time in the last week of November. Stayed at the Royal Amsterdam and would definately recommend. Very close to the action, girl friendly and a very quiet, clean room. The hotel food was pretty good too.

I was lucky enough to meet an ideal companion for my trip about an hour into AC. I barfined her immediately and kept her for the duration. This girl had a fabulous attitude about her job. Her job is to entertain and make my stay as enjoyable as possible. If I wanted to party - no problem. We can dance, barhop or whatever. However, if I need to wind down, she can be quiet, watch TV or basically folllow my lead. She also didn't have any of the bargirl habits of constantly trying to part you from your money. She didn't ask for presents and was quite helpful when it came to shopping or choosing a place to eat.

After the first night, I mentioned to her that I want her to hang around as she is a great girl. But, I needed to try some of the other girls in AC. She said NO PROBLEM, I understand. That is why you came to AC. So, we made an arrangement whereby she would occupy herself elsewhere while I short-timed some girls. I rang her when I was done and she met me at the hotel (this got quite a lot of astonished looks from the hotel staff!). I have to admit though that sex was much more intense with my regular. There is nothing better than the total girlfriend experience.

If you are interested in her details, PM me.

Cheers,
Tooch

[Columpuss]

sexwithsmile

Buddy! nothing personal. Fine dinning in AC? Having a stimulating conversation with a girl? You're another Mr. Howard on the island aren't you?

AC is FFF. You eat to get the energy to FFF. Most of your conversation is about FFF.

If you're a hardcore monger, AC is perfect. If not, save your money.

[Van Rensberg]

hi fellow mongers,

i came and indulged (perhaps overly) in angeles back in september 2005.

stayed at the southern star down near the clarkton. if you don't give a shit what the room's like (and let's face it we're not there to take in the grandeur) you can't go wrong. the star's a bit out of the way but it's got it's own bar (foxy's), a small pool and is never overly crowded.

i do love a beer and during my stay hit many of the field's ave bars such as dirty duck (fave bar for sure) brown sugar, cambodia, neros and blue nile. but in my opinion some of the best bars are the smaller ones up on perimeter road. rio's, niftys and there's a couple of others where if you haven't been raped by the time you get out something's wrong!!!

how great is it walking out of the bar 8/10'ths pissed and it's still warm sunshine outside?

i'm only a young fella but have already been to ac (manila, cebu, puerto galera & dumaguete) many times. it's a top place for the single male. thailand was great too but when you're just after a couple of dozen drinks, a few games of pool and a nice brown lass by your side at night, why pass on the p.i?

happy mongering all. see you back in ac next march.

[SexWithSmile]

Hi,

I'll be in AC (Oasis) from 17 to 21 Dec (3rd visit), and I'm looking for a fellow monger interested in good dining, just to try some of the restaurants so eloquently described by Normang in his previous "gourmet" post, particularly interested in C'Dining, Ikabod, Rib Eye and Blue Board Inn.

Because I personally believe that fine dining is a perfect preliminary for a good night bar hopping, and eating alone or in the company of a local girl with her consistently limited capabilities in conversation and gastronomy, is not much fun.

Anyone interested, please PM.

Thanks

[HenryV]

My last post on Angeles told of a problem at the CENTRAL PARK HOTEL with transportation.

Well, its gotten worse. I met a girl and told her to come to my room in 30 minutes (I had an errand to run). I stopped at the front desk and told them her name and that she would be arriving shortly. Also, if they were uncomfortable about it just ring my room.

The girl showed up but they refused to let her go up to my room. I can understand and appreciate the safety aspect, however, despite my explicit instructions, they did not bother to call my room.

I am in the process of finding a different hotel, what a hassle.

AVOID THE CENTRAL PARK HOTEL IN ANGELES CITY. ITS ONE HASSLE AFTER ANOTHER.

[Blink157]

Hi there,

Nice report Billpsu. What a shame, but I know when you arrive you just to tired to argue.

I heard from a gurl that they now have gay shows in pick up dicso?? guys dancing with brief? is tha true`? Im gong to PI in 2 days, I guess I will pass on that joint.

Will post my experience here.

Happy hunting!!

[HenryV]

Arrived in AC on Thursday, December 8th (PI Time). My flight from Hong Kong to Manila was diverted to Inchon (2nd time this happend on Cathay Pacific) and, as a result, I was 2 hours late getting into the Manila Airport. Arrived at noon.

Although I arranged for a driver from CENTRAL PARK HOTEL to pick me up at 10am, he left after two hours (at noon). When I called him he said he was on his way back to AC but would turn around and return in about 30 minutes. TWO HOURS LATER HE SHOWED UP. He made no attempt to find out what happened.

The cost of the car was supposed to be 2500P. However, when I got to the hotel they charged me another 600P for being late. I was so tired from the flight I just paid it.

I usually use the Margarita Station for transportion (2100P for a car), but I though it would be easier just to arrange it all through the Central Park Hotel. Margarita Station has a 5 hour wait policy (they have waited up to 4 hours for me in the past).

Moral of the story - DO NOT USE THE CENTRAL PARK HOTEL FOR TRANSPORTAION. However, their rooms (the large ones) are quite good, and centrally located.

The bars are as usual. If you like a lot of attention when you walk in try the small ones (Treasure Island, Dirty Duck, Gecko's, etc.). If you like the bright lights and glitz go to the Blue Nile, Dollhouse, etc.

Went to Blue Nile Executive Club around 11pm with a cutie I bfined at Misty's (right across the street). Saw the most erotic spur of the moment dancing by a bunch of girls. Took their tops off, danced wildly with tits shaking and began to go down on each other (unfortunately with clothes on). What a place.

Forgive any spelling errors, I'm a little hung over.

Oh we few, we happy few.

[Vikings]

OK this is probably a dumb question but I'm about ready to launch off on my 1st angeles city mission in over 20 years. I've read there are a few massage places in Angeles, (nothing like Thailand from what I've read), however, I'd like to spend the afternoons getting a nice massage with a happy ending. Is this an option? I think getting 2 girls would be best. Definately going to go to blow row for a double header :)

Thanks

[Nomis]

I am planning my first trip to the Philippines this coming January or February. Although I have not visited either Angeles City or Cebu, I have read both forums and done quite a bit of research already. I am planning on visiting both Angeles and Cebu during this short 2-week trip. I am very interested in some travel planning advice, perhaps from guys that have been to both places before.

Raz

Great info from Fizzin, Fast Eddie 48 and On The Go. Here is some additional info based on my experience. AC and Cebu I think are complete opposites.

I consider AC as a nonstop party area with limited things to do during the day. You can rent a motor bike and tour the area, go to a mall (20 minutes away), go to Subic Bay (1.5 to 3 hrs depending on weather and traffic) or basically bar hop and chill. All the bars are concentrated in one area.

In Cebu, I am assuming you are going to Cebu City or Mactan Island, I would consider a very slow pace but with many things to do (not just party). The bar and party areas are spread out and will require more money and effort. Bar hopping in the girlie bars will be more expensive and will require more effort and time since they are not all located in the same area (girls are less likely to speak English as compared to Manila).

The last time I was in Cebu, there were some good bar areas (not girlie or GRO) such as the Village (close to Waterfront hotel), Ayala Center which has numerous clubs (freelancers inside but require work). I also like going to H2O in Waterfront hotel, Jukebox (small bar with a band), Vuvdu and Zero Below (all night partying).

For the girlie bars (GRO and KTV), I usually go to the Viking (hole in the wall but I know the mamasans), Black Hole and others all within walking distance from each other in this area. There is also the Arena which is very expensive but tons of girls and loads of fun (there were 6 of us and we rented a room). There are numerous Casas in Cebu City (Hanna Valley or gate 3 is one). There are tons of bugaws (pimps) walking around who can get you girls but be careful because they may not be safe since they are not tested. As for activities during the day, you can go on a day tour of the city or go island hopping (highly recommended) however I would go with a reputable service (more expensive initially) rather than trying to set one up yourself (initally cheaper but could get expensive if you are not a local).

I usually don't like going to Cebu since it is too slow of a pace for my taste but I am going this December to visit family and friends. I definitely prefer the metro Manila area but it may not be for everyone. It is a big city and can be very intimidating if you don't know where to go. There are the normal places that everyone recommends such as Makati and Burgos st, Malate/Mabini area especially the J. Nakpil area (not far from LA Cafe), EDSA and DEC Complex, etc. For the adventurous, I would recommend Quezon City. The three places to visit would be Eastwood Cit/Libis area, Tomas Morato area and the Araneta Center/area. These areas would give you a better idea and experience of the local environment.

Have fun and enjoy.

[Candyman2005]

The pickup Disco is a great place to meet girls after club hours. Hell, I didn't even have to go in the Disco to pick up the girls. Candyman 2005 sent me a text messege and said he was bringing two girls by my room early this morning from the Disco. Both were very hot looking when they got here. One passed out on the bed drunk or high or both, and the other took a shower with me and helped me unload my nuts. She was sort of a headcase in the end, but what the hell....she was a beautiful young 21 year old headcase who turned into a pretty good shot of free ass. Thanks Candyman! Could have done it without ya, but didn't have to. What are friends for right? I love this place!

Yella Man

No problem Yella Man, I know you would do the same for me...Wish you could be there on my next trip Dec 27- Jan 04 but someone has to keep the girls of AC busy, plus I will have NDRME traveling with me this time...But you will be missed, you know how we do it. If anyone of you mongers want to kick it with me and barhop or have a drink, please do, you are more than welcome.

[Traveler1234]

I am planning my first trip to the Philippines this coming January or February. Although I have not visited either Angeles City or Cebu, I have read both forums and done quite a bit of research already. I am planning on visiting both Angeles and Cebu during this short 2-week trip. I am very interested in some travel planning advice, perhaps from guys that have been to both places before.
Any help is appreciated. I am happy to reciprocate with information on southern China, with which I am familiar and have posted over 100 times about it. And if I meet up with a contributor to my cause, I’ll gladly buy him a drink or two.

Raz

"On the go" pretty much says it all. I've never been to AC but from RTFF general concensus is it's a closed knit world, eg all the girls know you and you them in a short time, and not much else to do except f....

I do go to Manila couple of times a year and it's like most urban cities....lots of other things besides girls. Usually need a couple of days to get oriented, etc. You might want to PM some of the senior members who know both areas....IMHO