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  1. #1868
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Would you mind linking to the posts where it was said that Smooci making those previous guidelines at least minimally apparent to the customers would have made their rating system "fairy tale perfect like some on here seem to think"? I'd like to read those posts too.
    You seem to be trying to make an implication of causality that was just not there. He did imply that some might have been overly optimistic about the accuracy of ratings, and that perfectly fair ratings is a "fairy tale".

    His phrase "doesn't mean you can't expect garbage" was pretty confusing to me though. That is really 3 negative words (including garbage). Does it mean you can expect to pick garbage? Why would anyone use the service if expecting to pick garbage? "Can expect to not get garbage" would make more sense to me or "Can expect to get reliable girls" (leaving garbage out). I guess it was supposed to mean that you can't be sure to get a good girl.

  2. #1867

    Climax Club

    Hi,

    Some body posted that Climax Club in Soi11 is closed now. Sad I was there in Dec 2016, had good time and picked up a freelancer very good English and nice body. She told is working as front desk executive in a Hotel. Can some body update the reason for closing (renovation? Lease renew? As I am schedule to visit BKK next month.

  3. #1866
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiba7  [View Original Post]
    The Smooci rating system works fine. If you're booking escorts below 4.0 rating then that's your own mistake. Giving the excuse that you have to pick from a litter of garbage cause the 4.0 rating girls are taken doesn't mean you can't expect to pick garbage.

    Even if they enforced those old guidelines with "I agree", and really forced it down the user's throat, it would only take a couple of users to still throw that whole system off. Those guidelines are never going to make it fairy tale perfect like some on here seem to think.

    I read those guidelines, and I still gave 5's to girls that weren't the best I've ever had.

    If you look at online ratings, the majority of users almost always give a 1 or a 5, seldom anything between, and those guidelines won't (and apparently didn't) change how users perceive that.
    I agree with you that one would be wise to only book girls with high Smooci ratings. Personally, I think your 4.0 floor is too low. Especially if you also believe that it only takes a couple of users to throw the whole system off. But for two starry-eyed low-demand users, you could be inadvertently booking a more realistically 2.0 rated girl, right? That's why I would keep it to no lower than 4. 5 rated girls.

    Would you mind linking to the posts where it was said that Smooci making those previous guidelines at least minimally apparent to the customers would have made their rating system "fairy tale perfect like some on here seem to think"? I'd like to read those posts too.

  4. #1865
    Just had Angie from Pink Bangkok Escort.

    Haven't seen any reports of her, so I thought I'd share my recommendation.

    She's a bit on the expensive side (6 k for 3 h on discounted Smooci), but makes up for it. Model type (+tall) out of bed with makeup, and super skilled in bed. Not as attractive without makeup though, obviously, but some have said she's like a top model. I'd disagree to some extent.

    She apparently also knows my own body better than I do! Best. Blowjob. Ever.

    Actually, she gave me 4 full blowjobs in those 3 hours. I usually get one ( 1 minute) if the girl feels like it.

    I'm usually top, but I let her take control after the first pop, and wow, no regrets!

    Definite GFE. Only downside is limited English.

  5. #1864
    Hi guys,

    First time poster here.

    I have a layover in Bangkok for 20 hours and thought I'd make the most of it.

    I'm thinking of getting these 2 girls at the same time:

    http://bangkokdreamsgirlescort.com/model/fong/

    http://bangkokdreamsgirlescort.com/model/may/

    Are there any reviews or suggestions?

  6. #1863
    The Smooci rating system works fine. If you're booking escorts below 4.0 rating then that's your own mistake. Giving the excuse that you have to pick from a litter of garbage cause the 4.0 rating girls are taken doesn't mean you can't expect to pick garbage.

    Even if they enforced those old guidelines with "I agree", and really forced it down the user's throat, it would only take a couple of users to still throw that whole system off. Those guidelines are never going to make it fairy tale perfect like some on here seem to think.

    I read those guidelines, and I still gave 5's to girls that weren't the best I've ever had.

    If you look at online ratings, the majority of users almost always give a 1 or a 5, seldom anything between, and those guidelines won't (and apparently didn't) change how users perceive that.

  7. #1862
    Quote Originally Posted by MaximumDry  [View Original Post]
    Honestly at that point I hadn't been a lot into BKK escort scene so my bar wasn't set high enough. Her service was appalling but in spite of that she did make me climax twice so that's the reason I was charitable. Not long after that I went on to have some of the most memorable encounters with some of the other bkk escorts out there, that's when I realized how much awful the previous experience was.
    That makes total sense to me. Thanks again for that followup too. IMO, that is another argument for why Smooci or any other service that purports to offer a Rating system to better inform their customers on their choices needs to make it clear on what basis and standards the girl's Rating could or should be based. And, yes, that would be even though any customer can still choose to either adhere to or ignore those standards and come up with standards of his own that wouldn't matter to anyone else. I believe most customers would choose to adhere to them if they were short, clear, logical and apparent. Now customers can also rhapsodize about aspects of their encounter having nothing to do with whether or not the pics are accurate or she was truthful about providing the services listed on her profile. And they can read such rhapsodizing of other customers as well.

    But keeping that basis hidden deeply in an area of their website that no one is likely to go searching for something they don't even know exists, as it was before, and then eliminating altogether any reference to standards or bases for their Star Rating system, as it is today, on the premise that nobody was clicking or reading that basis when it was deeply hidden in their website is, frankly, quite a bizarre excuse.

  8. #1861
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the followup. Hmm. Why didn't you just change it to the 2/5 rating you thought it should have been to begin with had she not been looking over your shoulder waiting for you to praise her lousy service? Your description here sounded as though 2/5 would have been closer to the truth. BTW, did you know there is a Smooci Advertiser Thread here? Might need to do a search. Maybe this is an exchange Smooci should see.
    Honestly at that point I hadn't been a lot into BKK escort scene so my bar wasn't set high enough. Her service was appalling but in spite of that she did make me climax twice so that's the reason I was charitable. Not long after that I went on to have some of the most memorable encounters with some of the other bkk escorts out there, that's when I realized how much awful the previous experience was.

  9. #1860
    Quote Originally Posted by MaximumDry  [View Original Post]
    She was booked via smooci. I believe I'd looked her rating but nevertheless I went ahead with her because my other choices were unavailable at the moment.

    Anyway when she marked the appointment as complete, next moment I received a text about reviewing her, and there she was right next to me eagerly waiting. I rated her 4/5 although it should have been more like 2/5 but that'd have led her creating a scene. You do have some window for changing your ratings, so after a while I changed it to 3/5.
    Thanks for the followup. Hmm. Why didn't you just change it to the 2/5 rating you thought it should have been to begin with had she not been looking over your shoulder waiting for you to praise her lousy service? Your description here sounded as though 2/5 would have been closer to the truth. BTW, did you know there is a Smooci Advertiser Thread here? Might need to do a search. Maybe this is an exchange Smooci should see.

  10. #1859
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiandihui  [View Original Post]
    "In BKK who still use wechat, skout and etc, app to hook up girls? All these are proven scams and totally bait and switch."

    "But of because, if you prefer the same way of an Angler, throw the bait and wait for the fish to hook, by all means go ahead."

    With this two quote, I think I can rest my case, LOL. But if you wish to win the debate, of because there no issue, I declare you the winner.

    Have a good day mate.
    You absolutely make no sense. Thanks for coming out.

  11. #1858
    Quote Originally Posted by KimSet  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    Is anyone here use to try these agencies?

    http://www.bangkokbestmodel.com/

    http://ezmassagebkk.com

    They got the same girl but I wonder if they are real agency or bait and switch.
    EZ does outcall service and they use the Best Model site for their ladies. Unless you have some special interests, why don't you go to the shop to see the same girl.

  12. #1857
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    You mention "rating", so does that mean you booked Indy through Smooci and not directly through VIP Escorts? I see that Indy currently has a Smooci Star Rating of 3. 6 out of 5 Stars. As shaky and uselessly subjective as the ratings are on Smooci, having little or nothing to do with whether the girl will likely deliver on a stated service, I wouldn't even think of booking a girl through Smooci with less than a 4. 5 Star rating. And even then you might only be booking her based primarily on her previous customers' assessment of her looks, nothing whatever to do with her willingness to deliver on her listed services as advertised.

    Just curious; what rating did you give Indy after this disastrous encounter and why? Also, were you aware of her 3.6 Star Rating on Smooci when or if you booked her there and did that have any influence on your decision to book her?

    I see you gave her a 5/10 rating on service here. Well, a 5 Star Rating on Smooci would be the best rating you could give a girl. Did you give her a 5 Star Rating on Smooci, too?
    She was booked via smooci. I believe I'd looked her rating but nevertheless I went ahead with her because my other choices were unavailable at the moment.

    Anyway when she marked the appointment as complete, next moment I received a text about reviewing her, and there she was right next to me eagerly waiting. I rated her 4/5 although it should have been more like 2/5 but that'd have led her creating a scene. You do have some window for changing your ratings, so after a while I changed it to 3/5.

  13. #1856
    Quote Originally Posted by Bkkdog  [View Original Post]
    With all due respect, that's not what you said in your post. You asked who is still using those chat apps and called them all scams.

    You really need to go back and read what your wrote.
    "In BKK who still use wechat, skout and etc, app to hook up girls? All these are proven scams and totally bait and switch."

    "But of because, if you prefer the same way of an Angler, throw the bait and wait for the fish to hook, by all means go ahead."

    With this two quote, I think I can rest my case, LOL. But if you wish to win the debate, of because there no issue, I declare you the winner.

    Have a good day mate.

  14. #1855
    Quote Originally Posted by MaximumDry  [View Original Post]
    Sometimes back I had very much below average experience with the escort Indy. I booked her online, the agency called me and fixed the appointment. She arrived slightly late but I was okay. What made me disappointed, however, was her attitude. Barely spoke English. The minute she was inside she began asking for money up front. We had some back and forth and I thought of canceling the appointment but since it was kinda late and I wanted to sleep early so I gave in and handed her the money. However I made her agree on with the services listed on her profile such as DFK, CIM etc before giving her the money and she said yes to all. We both took shower and got ready. She's slim but she's had stomach tucked in. When we were about to get it going she says no dkf because she's burnt her tongue. Wtf? Anyway when we're in the middle of the deed she points out no fingering cause she'll cum too soon. After first shot she went to bathroom and began getting ready as if to dress up and leave. I became frustrated, and had to remind her that I paid for 2 shots and 2 hours. Then she told me that her sister was sick and she needs to go pattaya tonight only because no one to look after her etc. I didn't know what to do, but she felt that I might give her bad rating, so she asked me to get on with second round. Wham bam thank you Mam, and she was gone in just one hour. No CIM, below average BBBJ.

    Service 5/10.

    Damage 3 k.

    Repeat No.
    You mention "rating", so does that mean you booked Indy through Smooci and not directly through VIP Escorts? I see that Indy currently has a Smooci Star Rating of 3. 6 out of 5 Stars. As shaky and uselessly subjective as the ratings are on Smooci, having little or nothing to do with whether the girl will likely deliver on a stated service, I wouldn't even think of booking a girl through Smooci with less than a 4. 5 Star rating. And even then you might only be booking her based primarily on her previous customers' assessment of her looks, nothing whatever to do with her willingness to deliver on her listed services as advertised.

    Just curious; what rating did you give Indy after this disastrous encounter and why? Also, were you aware of her 3.6 Star Rating on Smooci when or if you booked her there and did that have any influence on your decision to book her?

    I see you gave her a 5/10 rating on service here. Well, a 5 Star Rating on Smooci would be the best rating you could give a girl. Did you give her a 5 Star Rating on Smooci, too?

  15. #1854
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiandihui  [View Original Post]
    Dude,

    There is no definite right or wrong, as I mentioned earlier, if is good to some, by all means go ahead. What I mentioned earlier is all from personal and circle of friends experience.

    Just like in Casino, some do gain and some hardly or never taste the sweetness. I also mentioned in much earlier, many others have their very own tactics to bait their preferred fish.

    Yes, there may be reports on success on these apps but there are also negatives on these apps too. Nothing is 100% "good" to the end consumers.

    A product always have some fans and some haters and that's for sure. No doubt about it.

    Most importantly, just enjoy the bonk and the moment.

    Cheers.
    With all due respect, that's not what you said in your post. You asked who is still using those chat apps and called them all scams.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiandihui  [View Original Post]
    In BKK who still use wechat, skout and etc app to hook up girls? All these are proven scams and totally bait and switch. Try at own risks. Though some may have hit some mini jackpot, but the time wasted should be spend more wisely to bars or straight to the biz, escorts online, or club full with freelancers. But of because, if you prefer the same way of an Angler, throw the bait and wait for the fish to hook, by all means go ahead.
    You really need to go back and read what your wrote.

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