Bucaramanga

[Gabacho]

Parque Santander, Centenario, and Antonia Santos form a triangle in which all 3 are basically 3 blocks from each other. You are giving advice on the Parques and went to a hotel across from Centenario. I was just there yesterday July 22. Parque Centenario is entirely fenced in which alone probably took a week. They are doing a 100% remodel with only the trees and the corner cop shop left untouched. There are 3 or 4 piles of dirt 2 meters high. I can see excavating equipment and lots of rebar which looks as if they will be putting 2 foot high border fencing that hopefully will be wide enough to sit on. My guess is they have been working for 3 weeks or more. So either they started the very next day after you left and are the fastest construction crew I have ever seen, you have no sense of time frame what-so-ever, or you are flat out lying.

My 2 day walk visiting Parques starting from Hotel Buena Vista. This was on a Saturday but Thursday was a holiday and 25% of stores were closed that normally would not have been. So the girl count I assume was lower than normal.

De LOS Ninos: Big park with a little bit of everything. Saturday night was packed with families and had one of those huge blow up things the kids bounce around in like at a fair.

Antonia Santos: Had about 10 girls then later around 6:00 15 girls. Some sitting in front of the two hotels across the street ready to be ridden like a cow because most were old and fat.

Centenario: Closed. Best guess will reopen July 2024.

Santander: 5 girls. One was very doable but I was on a research mission and passed.

Simon Bolivar: Nothing there. Mostly dirt. Shit parque.

Mejoras Publicas: Narrow and sits in a slight valley but was closed. Maybe just for the weekend.

Las Palmas: Cute little neighborhood parque with a Dominoes Pizza across the street. It looked very odd there to me.

San Pio: One of the best Parques I have seen in Colombia. Lots of grass, different kinds of trees, with trash cans everywhere, and upscale family people. But the best was no pigeons and no pigeon shit everywhere like most of the parques in this country. It is so rare I am going to say it again. No pigeons! No pigeon shit!

End of day. Blister on one foot and the other hurts a bit.

Odd observation. Saw a group of 5 enter Parque Antonia Santos. 3 girls 2 guys. 1 girl pregnant and ugly. The other 2 girls very doable and had plans to give my Whatsapp number or look for them the next day. My eyes met one of the girls and she said Hi as she passed by. These girls were walking around the parque and I was watching them for about 20 minutes. During this time the police were searching young guy's backpacks. The 5th guy to get searched yelled something and waves his hands to get his other friends attention like let's go. He yelled a few times and he and a bunch of others all met at the far corner of the parque. There were 5 girls and 15 guys. They did not all come together and were scattered throughout the parque. I watched for another 30 minutes to see if something was going to happen and left. Not sure what that group was doing there but I would never take either of those 2 girls now because something just is not right and can only end badly.

Next day.

Del Agua: Not a Parque. I think it is a water treatment plant.

Morrorico: Walked around 2/3 of it. The only entrance did not look well used (grass overgrown) so I did not enter and did not see anyone anywhere. I did not want a security dog or a stray dog attacking me so I moved on.

Small parque off Carrera 51 down a steep hill and did not see much so took a pass and ignored it.

Metropolitano Bosque Encantado: This is a hillside with grass and trees but you walk on an inclined board walk that zigzags up the hill and other spots take the more direct staircases. 5 police at the one entrance and no police anywhere else. So guess where all the 20 year old guys were hanging out? Yes on the other side. Had to walk past a group of 8. 4 on one side and 4 on the other.

Since the street scene is a bust thus far I contacted several Skokka and Mileroticos online girls. What a nightmare. 11 messages sent out. #1-5 not even read. #6 read but did not reply. #7 250,000 COP girl was dropped quickly. #8 Said was available today but would never answer what time so she got dropped. #9 gave the address but again would not give a time so bye bye to her too. #10 Too far away. #11 it is. No face shown. Body is a 9. I get there and the 9 is a 5 in face and body. Somehow she gained 20% more weight but her boobs lost 50% of their weight. But there was another girl there who was a 7 so I switched girls. The girl I took has a sweet face and wore glasses. Funny thing is her face looks just like a picture of this other 9 who I was going to message who also wears glasses. What is the chance of that? But the girl I was with, her boobs were only 1/3 the size of the 9 in the picture. This Photoshop shit is out of hand.

Pereira has 100,000+ less people but the street scene is bigger. Different website are showing vastly different population numbers so do not correct me on that.

I've been saying for a long time that bucaramanga was bullshit. The street scene is basically non existent there. I never tried any online prepagos while I was there but it appears those are bullshit too.

The only city with a decent street scene with multiple venues, and Casas, spas, and online aswell, in that area of Colombia is Cucuta, Norte de Santander. It is about 5 hours from bucaramanga by bus. I suggest you go there instead and stay at Mar Hotel right across from the transit terminal where you will arrive. From there just walk about 3 blocks up la septima and you will run into all the SGs and hookers bars. Going rates are cheaper than Medellin 30 mil including the room (25 mil for the girl, 5 mil for the room) along la septima and about 5 k to 10 k more at Parque Mercedes which has better looking girls. Area is generally safe and has a high police / military presence. Everything from hotels to food to sex is slightly cheaper than Medellin and unlike bucaramanga there are girls in abundance.

There is no reason why Bucaramanga should have it's own forum and Cucuta doesn't. Maybe someone should talk to Jackson (or whoever the admin is of ISG) to get that changed.

[MrDebt]

Hi all,

I'm in Buca for about a week. If anyone knows some cool non-pro FB / SA chica's and would be willing to share contact info, please DM me. Cheers!

[Golfinho]

I think the comparison was with Pereira which considering smaller population seems to be better than Buca.

Is this true? If you have 3 days and need to pick either Buca or PEI which city would you pick?

You're going to get laid no matter where you go, and with similar quality and pricing. Base decision on flight connection, hotel situation, and climate. Also on what days of the week you will be there. People who've been in these places for weeks and weeks and months have their routines. But for a casual visitor, it differs little which of these two cities for a three-day visit if all you want to do is a casa pro.

[SankarShetty]

Not the scale of Medellin. And now you've seen for yourself.

I think the comparison was with Pereira which considering smaller population seems to be better than Buca.

Is this true? If you have 3 days and need to pick either Buca or PEI which city would you pick?

[Golfinho]

Parque Santander, Centenario, and Antonia Santos form a triangle in which all 3 are basically 3 blocks from each other. You are giving advice on the Parques and went to a hotel across from Centenario. I was just there yesterday July 22. Parque Centenario is entirely fenced in which alone probably took a week. They are doing a 100% remodel with only the trees and the corner cop shop left untouched. There are 3 or 4 piles of dirt 2 meters high. I can see excavating equipment and lots of rebar which looks as if they will be putting 2 foot high border fencing that hopefully will be wide enough to sit on. My guess is they have been working for 3 weeks or more. So either they started the very next day after you left and are the fastest construction crew I have ever seen, you have no sense of time frame what-so-ever, or you are flat out lying.

My 2 day walk visiting Parques starting from Hotel Buena Vista. This was on a Saturday but Thursday was a holiday and 25% of stores were closed that normally would not have been. So the girl count I assume was lower than normal.

De LOS Ninos: Big park with a little bit of everything. Saturday night was packed with families and had one of those huge blow up things the kids bounce around in like at a fair.

Antonia Santos: Had about 10 girls then later around 6:00 15 girls. Some sitting in front of the two hotels across the street ready to be ridden like a cow because most were old and fat.

Centenario: Closed. Best guess will reopen July 2024.

Santander: 5 girls. One was very doable but I was on a research mission and passed.

Simon Bolivar: Nothing there. Mostly dirt. Shit parque.

Mejoras Publicas: Narrow and sits in a slight valley but was closed. Maybe just for the weekend.

Las Palmas: Cute little neighborhood parque with a Dominoes Pizza across the street. It looked very odd there to me.

San Pio: One of the best Parques I have seen in Colombia. Lots of grass, different kinds of trees, with trash cans everywhere, and upscale family people. But the best was no pigeons and no pigeon shit everywhere like most of the parques in this country. It is so rare I am going to say it again. No pigeons! No pigeon shit!

End of day. Blister on one foot and the other hurts a bit.

Odd observation. Saw a group of 5 enter Parque Antonia Santos. 3 girls 2 guys. 1 girl pregnant and ugly. The other 2 girls very doable and had plans to give my Whatsapp number or look for them the next day. My eyes met one of the girls and she said Hi as she passed by. These girls were walking around the parque and I was watching them for about 20 minutes. During this time the police were searching young guy's backpacks. The 5th guy to get searched yelled something and waves his hands to get his other friends attention like let's go. He yelled a few times and he and a bunch of others all met at the far corner of the parque. There were 5 girls and 15 guys. They did not all come together and were scattered throughout the parque. I watched for another 30 minutes to see if something was going to happen and left. Not sure what that group was doing there but I would never take either of those 2 girls now because something just is not right and can only end badly.

Next day.

Del Agua: Not a Parque. I think it is a water treatment plant.

Morrorico: Walked around 2/3 of it. The only entrance did not look well used (grass overgrown) so I did not enter and did not see anyone anywhere. I did not want a security dog or a stray dog attacking me so I moved on.

Small parque off Carrera 51 down a steep hill and did not see much so took a pass and ignored it.

Metropolitano Bosque Encantado: This is a hillside with grass and trees but you walk on an inclined board walk that zigzags up the hill and other spots take the more direct staircases. 5 police at the one entrance and no police anywhere else. So guess where all the 20 year old guys were hanging out? Yes on the other side. Had to walk past a group of 8. 4 on one side and 4 on the other.

Since the street scene is a bust thus far I contacted several Skokka and Mileroticos online girls. What a nightmare. 11 messages sent out. #1-5 not even read. #6 read but did not reply. #7 250,000 COP girl was dropped quickly. #8 Said was available today but would never answer what time so she got dropped. #9 gave the address but again would not give a time so bye bye to her too. #10 Too far away. #11 it is. No face shown. Body is a 9. I get there and the 9 is a 5 in face and body. Somehow she gained 20% more weight but her boobs lost 50% of their weight. But there was another girl there who was a 7 so I switched girls. The girl I took has a sweet face and wore glasses. Funny thing is her face looks just like a picture of this other 9 who I was going to message who also wears glasses. What is the chance of that? But the girl I was with, her boobs were only 1/3 the size of the 9 in the picture. This Photoshop shit is out of hand.

Pereira has 100,000+ less people but the street scene is bigger. Different website are showing vastly different population numbers so do not correct me on that.

Not the scale of Medellin. And now you've seen for yourself.

[LoveItHere]

At Parque Santandar, take a bench seat and scope. Won't take long. Best one I found was a 'Zuelan, perfect nineteen talking to an older friend who had a little pushcart stall. We walked over to a love hotel, err sex hotel, err cheap hotel across from Centenario.

Earlier this month. It's not the scale of Medellin.

Parque Santander, Centenario, and Antonia Santos form a triangle in which all 3 are basically 3 blocks from each other. You are giving advice on the Parques and went to a hotel across from Centenario. I was just there yesterday July 22. Parque Centenario is entirely fenced in which alone probably took a week. They are doing a 100% remodel with only the trees and the corner cop shop left untouched. There are 3 or 4 piles of dirt 2 meters high. I can see excavating equipment and lots of rebar which looks as if they will be putting 2 foot high border fencing that hopefully will be wide enough to sit on. My guess is they have been working for 3 weeks or more. So either they started the very next day after you left and are the fastest construction crew I have ever seen, you have no sense of time frame what-so-ever, or you are flat out lying.

My 2 day walk visiting Parques starting from Hotel Buena Vista. This was on a Saturday but Thursday was a holiday and 25% of stores were closed that normally would not have been. So the girl count I assume was lower than normal.

De LOS Ninos: Big park with a little bit of everything. Saturday night was packed with families and had one of those huge blow up things the kids bounce around in like at a fair.

Antonia Santos: Had about 10 girls then later around 6:00 15 girls. Some sitting in front of the two hotels across the street ready to be ridden like a cow because most were old and fat.

Centenario: Closed. Best guess will reopen July 2024.

Santander: 5 girls. One was very doable but I was on a research mission and passed.

Simon Bolivar: Nothing there. Mostly dirt. Shit parque.

Mejoras Publicas: Narrow and sits in a slight valley but was closed. Maybe just for the weekend.

Las Palmas: Cute little neighborhood parque with a Dominoes Pizza across the street. It looked very odd there to me.

San Pio: One of the best Parques I have seen in Colombia. Lots of grass, different kinds of trees, with trash cans everywhere, and upscale family people. But the best was no pigeons and no pigeon shit everywhere like most of the parques in this country. It is so rare I am going to say it again. No pigeons! No pigeon shit!

End of day. Blister on one foot and the other hurts a bit.

Odd observation. Saw a group of 5 enter Parque Antonia Santos. 3 girls 2 guys. 1 girl pregnant and ugly. The other 2 girls very doable and had plans to give my Whatsapp number or look for them the next day. My eyes met one of the girls and she said Hi as she passed by. These girls were walking around the parque and I was watching them for about 20 minutes. During this time the police were searching young guy's backpacks. The 5th guy to get searched yelled something and waves his hands to get his other friends attention like let's go. He yelled a few times and he and a bunch of others all met at the far corner of the parque. There were 5 girls and 15 guys. They did not all come together and were scattered throughout the parque. I watched for another 30 minutes to see if something was going to happen and left. Not sure what that group was doing there but I would never take either of those 2 girls now because something just is not right and can only end badly.

Next day.

Del Agua: Not a Parque. I think it is a water treatment plant.

Morrorico: Walked around 2/3 of it. The only entrance did not look well used (grass overgrown) so I did not enter and did not see anyone anywhere. I did not want a security dog or a stray dog attacking me so I moved on.

Small parque off Carrera 51 down a steep hill and did not see much so took a pass and ignored it.

Metropolitano Bosque Encantado: This is a hillside with grass and trees but you walk on an inclined board walk that zigzags up the hill and other spots take the more direct staircases. 5 police at the one entrance and no police anywhere else. So guess where all the 20 year old guys were hanging out? Yes on the other side. Had to walk past a group of 8. 4 on one side and 4 on the other.

Since the street scene is a bust thus far I contacted several Skokka and Mileroticos online girls. What a nightmare. 11 messages sent out. #1-5 not even read. #6 read but did not reply. #7 250,000 COP girl was dropped quickly. #8 Said was available today but would never answer what time so she got dropped. #9 gave the address but again would not give a time so bye bye to her too. #10 Too far away. #11 it is. No face shown. Body is a 9. I get there and the 9 is a 5 in face and body. Somehow she gained 20% more weight but her boobs lost 50% of their weight. But there was another girl there who was a 7 so I switched girls. The girl I took has a sweet face and wore glasses. Funny thing is her face looks just like a picture of this other 9 who I was going to message who also wears glasses. What is the chance of that? But the girl I was with, her boobs were only 1/3 the size of the 9 in the picture. This Photoshop shit is out of hand.

Pereira has 100,000+ less people but the street scene is bigger. Different website are showing vastly different population numbers so do not correct me on that.

[Golfinho]

Golfinho. It sounds like you were just doing the street scene a few days ago. When were you last there?

Earlier this month. It's not the scale of Medellin.

[LoveItHere]

Golfinho. It sounds like you were just doing the street scene a few days ago. When were you last there?

[Golfinho]

I Never heard of anybody having such a bad time in Santa Marta, LOL. I've gone times without puta but I've always been fed.

I've try the restaurants near the Marina, I like the Ceviche, and there is a Chicken chain around the city called Pollos Piko Tom, it's about as spicy food as Colombia gets.
I don't eat a lot of fish, but on the coast I get Mojarra, it's roasted over a fire and it's easy to separate the delicious meat from the the bones.
Bucamaranga is on my to do list, but really, it sounds better than MDE?

In Colombia, it is the most simple common sense to ask at every place calling itself an Italian Restaurant if the chef / owner is Italian. When they tell you he's Colombian, immediately walk out. Ditto for Mexican restaurants. The poor fool crying about his bad lasagna made me laugh. Must have been his first time in Colombia. In Santa Marta, fresh fish was great. In Bucamaranga, it's beef and lomo.

[Golfinho]

So, what's the verdict? Is this hotel guest friendly or not? Asking cause I looked at your earlier advice and booked it. Thanks for info and your opinion, though.

Verdict is you should never book a strange hotel for more than one night if you intend to bring girls: this is basic.

Experience was: I reserved one night, saw hotel and location is good, and there was plenty of vacancy. I extended my stay one night at a time, paying cash, and informed them a girlfriend would be arriving. Returning with my date, it's ok, but the issue of tax for Colombians. Has happened elsewhere, it is what is. As things turned out, girls in general preferred not to come to hotels, which is my preference as well, and the ones I found were Venezuelan anyway, so after that it was love motels or sex hotels or whatever you call them. These places don't ask for ID's or extra tax. Very convenient.

[Arthur62]

So, what's the verdict? Is this hotel guest friendly or not? Asking cause I looked at your earlier advice and booked it. Thanks for info and your opinion, though.

Golfinho said it is a good place, not that it is GF. Indeed he suggests a love hotel for that need.

I contacted Triada in WhatsApp (+5491123530759), and they clearly said they will not accept any new guests after the registered ones.

As I want this option, I decided to take an Airbnb.

[Ejjlk8274]

. From Triada International.

So, what's the verdict? Is this hotel guest friendly or not? Asking cause I looked at your earlier advice and booked it. Thanks for info and your opinion, though.

[Kutler]

Awesome report, thanks for putting all that effort into writing it. I didn't have any bad experiences last fall; however, the food, in general, was a disappointment. I said it tells you everything you need to know that in Colombia every third restaurant is "Mexican"; whereas, in Mexico there isn't a single Colombian restaurant.

I Never heard of anybody having such a bad time in Santa Marta, LOL. I've gone times without puta but I've always been fed.

I've try the restaurants near the Marina, I like the Ceviche, and there is a Chicken chain around the city called Pollos Piko Tom, it's about as spicy food as Colombia gets.

I don't eat a lot of fish, but on the coast I get Mojarra, it's roasted over a fire and it's easy to separate the delicious meat from the the bones.

And there is lots of great looking women on the beach in Rodadero, there not for sale they're Colombian tourists.

Bucamaranga is on my to do list, but really, it sounds better than MDE?

[Golfinho]

In the afternoons in the Parques. Very problematic (as always) to give specifics as some people will invariably whine and cry that they went to the place and the specific girl wasn't there. At Parque Santandar, take a bench seat and scope. Won't take long. Best one I found was a 'Zuelan, perfect nineteen talking to an older friend who had a little pushcart stall. We walked over to a love hotel, err sex hotel, err cheap hotel across from Centenario. Sorry to disappoint if you can't guess the rest. Best part was tapping into her friends to spec she brought to the park over next few days and we visited other love hotels, err sex hotels, of a somewhat better quality than the first one. From Triada International, go left to the corner, love motel, err good cheap hotel to have sex is right there across the street. Do you need the name? Or a restaurant where the waiters won't be rude to you and expect you to eat bad lasagna? PM me. Parque Antonio Santos several blocks away has a much more flagrant scene. Wow. Worth while just to see as a spectacle. If you have time and patience and want to relax and watch the squirrels something to your taste might turn up, that is if you appreciate large. Lunch restaurants around this Parque. Parque Centenario had the hardest core street girls and if you want find drug addicts, transvestites, and similar. Found Parque Pio and Los Ninos pleasant but no girls. It could be different at night, didn't experience. Nights were in La Isla. No Parque Botero-like thing found.

[Arthur62]

At the end I decided to take an Airbnb. I wanted an hotel suite, but I wanted the option to have a girl with me, and they said "no".

This is the place: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/8513918...hJVr1Rgxznocmi.

And this is the address (Edif. Borealix) CL. 34 #28-60, Mejoras Publicas, Bucaramanga, Santander, Colombia.

It is a 17th floor, the host described it as "nuevo con aislamiento acustico" and it is guest friendly. I asked it directly to the host.

I'll let you know how it is. If you know the area, please advice.

I use both hotels and airbnb. I do not like small rooms. For me sleeping well is very important, and a comfortable place puts me in much better mood.

On this trip to Colombia, I'll go first to Pereira, just 1 night to take a young Tinder flower with me to Santa Marta. I bet I'm the first gringo because she wanted her mother to see me before. I'll stay there 6 days in SM in the excellent Marina Suites (I hate to say the name, otherwise it will become as expensive as Energy in MDE, but sharing is our rule here), then the plan is going to explore Bucaramanga where I have never been before, and this is the reason why I asked the community. The next step is Cali where I have a very smart little morena I met in a previous trip. Finally Medellin, that we all know.