Suggestions for FKKs to add to the Forum

[Pistons]

Pistons, if you happen to stop by Samya, look for Andrea. Tighter body than Eleny (softer and slight weight gain now), similar look, but younger.

I got 3 days I have to spend at nrw in 1-2 weeks and I really have a hard time deciding where to go. But so far I don't have samya on top of my to go list. Why would I go there?

The thing is.

- I want outdoor areas if the sun is up.

- got to go back to oceans one night at least. (Its my club remember?)

- Aca seems to be the competitor to Samya, yet sounding slightly more interesting lineup wise now. Or is this wrong?

- Dolce Vita has both a pool, and a party on June 10.

- GT / LR discount.

- Both VV / PHG / SixSense / YinYang has outdoor pools, but info is scarse. German and french boards only give mediocre feedback.

But Samya is falling a bit behind now. Tell me why I should go to Samya on a 3 day nrw tour if I visit max 5 clubs?

[Hessen Bub]

I agree. HB's statement that service levels are generally lower is not correct at all in my experience and is too sweeping a statement. It is also not quite right to say that prices are more expensive in Spain.

I've had only great sessions in Spain. Still from what I hear from guys I trust is that service levels levels in general are lower. YMMV.

If you take a club with 12,50 EUR (Rom) or World on a Wednesday with 30 EUR entry, then Spain is more expensive, depending on the club and on how much drinks you buy.

But if Spain is such a great place for clubs, go and report.

HB.

[PussyLiccker]

It's not wise to infer what you'd expect from 1 or 2 gals. Go visit and experience it yourself.

Pistons, if you happen to stop by Samya, look for Andrea. Tighter body than Eleny (softer and slight weight gain now), similar look, but younger.

[The Cane]

Diana Plus is a good club in Madrid - 10 entry and the girls are the same 100 for the hour as in most FKKs but then no extra for BBBJ (and it's not becoming illegal in Spain!) or CIM. So a night out in Estark at Diana Plus for 2 hours is much cheaper than in an FKK and the options are arguably as good as a lot of FKKs. The old FKK v Spain chestnut is interesting but in fact the truth is both have pros and cons and I love them both in equal measure.

And finally, as this is the suggestions for new FKKs I'll make one: went to FKK Sunshine in Munich and loved it. Small but good options on girls. Only really poor aspect was the food being ordered from outside and being cheap fast food). But a city the size of Munich should surely have an FKK listing. Though I confess that the forum is very rarely used for comments which I do find odd given that the city itself is really very nice to visit.

Club Estark at Diana Plus is my favorite place in Madrid. Why? It's very small, but there were some smoking hot girls there when I went, including two that will remain with me forever I enjoyed the sessions so much. And, I absolutely agree about Munich. A very lovely city, and the one I like in Germany the best so far. Unfortunately, there are not a lot of FKKs there, but I too enjoyed my visit to Sunshine. Here is the report I wrote:

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=1995594

[Pistons]

Well Eleny (Oceans) used to work at Vive. And Mili (Artemis) worked at a club near barcelona. Two of my favourites at german FKK's. So I can imagine you basically find the same type of girls in spain as in Germany too. So then it is all about facilities, pricing, convenience of travel, amount of options and stuff outside. And whatever decent the ratio of hot girls are compared to germany or austria...

[PayForIt]

I enjoyed my two trips to Babylon Hamburg and had plenty good to say about it!

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=1996935

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=1998043

I too question why there is no separate thread for this club. If Atmos and Harmony have separate threads, then why not FKK Babylon Hamburg too? It is the largest of the clubs in Hamburg in terms of the facilities, and absolutely on par with the Hessen Big 5 in this respect. The line-up is smaller, but I liked it the most based on the diversity of nationalities represented.

As for Spain, I have said time and again that pound for pound and inch for inch, Spain is my favorite place to vacation in Europe. If you look at just P6, then Germany wins. But, if you look at the full picture, to include P6 options, weather, food, beaches, etc. , then I'm taking Spain! I have had many, many good sexual encounters in Spain that I will remember for the rest of my life. Some of the best! From Barcelona to Madrid to Seville. Yes Sir!

I agree. HB's statement that service levels are generally lower is not correct at all in my experience and is too sweeping a statement. It is also not quite right to say that prices are more expensive in Spain. It is about the same or maybe a little cheaper in Spain. For example, if I go to Scandalo in Malaga (it's top club) I pay no entry, 10 euros for drinks, and 180 for an hour in the room with the girl with everything included. Some girls will not do BBBJ and some not anal or may seek more for it, but I've had both many times in Spain with no extra charge. So if I have two hours in the room that's 360 plus say 4 drinks takes my spend to 400. If I go to an average priced FKK rather than pick on Artemis as the most expensive entry, so say 65 at Sharks (is it still that?) then again lets say 40 on drinks, 2 hours in the room is 200 so I'm up to 305 but then if I want CIM or anal I'm going to go above the 400 I would have spent in Spain. Diana Plus is a good club in Madrid - 10 entry and the girls are the same 100 for the hour as in most FKKs but then no extra for BBBJ (and it's not becoming illegal in Spain!) or CIM. So a night out in Estark at Diana Plus for 2 hours is much cheaper than in an FKK and the options are arguably as good as a lot of FKKs.

Some of my best ever experiences have been in Scandalo, Malaga, Vive Madrid, Diana Plus in Madrid, Puerto Banus and more latterly the excellent choices and LU at Fontana Los Barrios near Algeciras. Though my session last night in FKK Sunshine Munich will live long in my memory!

The old FKK v Spain chestnut is interesting but in fact the truth is both have pros and cons and I love them both in equal measure.

Germany: pros are how lovely it is to be surrounded by so many naked women. Especially in the outdoor areas e. G. Oase, World etc. And its nice to attend during the daytime and have so many options, eat, have a workout (Artemis) swim, massage, sleep as well as sessions in the rooms. None of that is possible in Spain which for me means that overall during my time in a Club I slightly prefer the FKKs to Spain.

Cons of FKKs. Entry fees are not cheap, can fluctuate (Oceans), girls can be far more sharky IMHO, food can be awful, some rooms are horribly smokey (the Living Room Cancer Lounge), occasionally unfriendly bar staff (Sharks and Artemis) and its boring being upsold constantly by girls wanting more for CIM, anal, domination etc.

Spain pros. Nice to see some women in very sexy dresses not just dessous (generally frowned upon in FKKs despite themed days which I actually like) though this can make for the occasional odd let down when the tits come out and head south. Night club atmosphere, fantastic cities to spend time in during the day (Sevilla, Madrid, Valencia, Barca, Granada, Malaga old town) compared to Germany where Munich is lovely, and Hamburg but Frankfurt, Dusseldorf and Cologne are boring and the areas around Haptbhanofs are seedy and ugly. The weather is obviously much better in Spain.

Downsides of Spain. No real options for daytime mongering other than tantra massages and very early entry into clubs where the worst looking girls only will be available. And of course the lack of organisation. Germans are good at organising things. The Spanish live for tomorrow and would not know urgency if it was coming towards them in a hurricane. It is also a bit irritating to be so frequently offered drugs in the rooms or for girls to want to take them.

And finally, as this is the suggestions for new FKKs I'll make one: went to FKK Sunshine in Munich and loved it. Small but good options on girls. Only really poor aspect was the food being ordered from outside and being cheap fast food). But a city the size of Munich should surely have an FKK listing. Though I confess that the forum is very rarely used for comments which I do find odd given that the city itself is really very nice to visit.

[The Cane]

I call again for a new FKK Babylon (Hamburg) thread. What has to happen in order for this to take place? It's a big club with great facilities and a very diverse LU (if not on the smaller side). This club is a major player in Hamburg along with Atmos and Harmony. It most definitely should have a dedicated thread. Can we make this happen? The more information on all of the clubs out there and the easier it is to find it, the better!

[Sebastiane]

I agree with The Cane that Babylon Hamburg is a good club with super facilities and should have its own thread too.

[Sirioja]

Babylon Hamburg is a quite large club with many many rooms, no risk to wait for key, not like at LR with only 14 rooms and sometimes, not only on Friday and Saturday, about 2 hours waiting. Good foods, inside swimming pool at Babylon. Some Polish and German girls. 60/30 mn.

[The Cane]

Babylon Hamburg is one of the worst clubs in Germany, where did you read something positive about it? Clubs are legal in Spain AFAIK. But service levels are in general lower than in Germany and prices higher. Don't know where you get the conclusion from that Spain is "the best place to monger in Europe as far as value for money, beauties, GFE goes"?

HB.

I enjoyed my two trips to Babylon Hamburg and had plenty good to say about it!

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=1996935

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=1998043

I too question why there is no separate thread for this club. If Atmos and Harmony have separate threads, then why not FKK Babylon Hamburg too? It is the largest of the clubs in Hamburg in terms of the facilities, and absolutely on par with the Hessen Big 5 in this respect. The line-up is smaller, but I liked it the most based on the diversity of nationalities represented.

As for Spain, I have said time and again that pound for pound and inch for inch, Spain is my favorite place to vacation in Europe. If you look at just P6, then Germany wins. But, if you look at the full picture, to include P6 options, weather, food, beaches, etc. , then I'm taking Spain! I have had many, many good sexual encounters in Spain that I will remember for the rest of my life. Some of the best! From Barcelona to Madrid to Seville. Yes Sir!

[Hessen Bub]

What about GT Vienna? I've heard great reports of that place having better quality women, is it part of the GT chain in Germany too?

Also where is the Babylon Hamburg thread, or is there none? Heard good reports of this place too in a few posts in the Atmos thread, I would like to know more of this place.

And on a side note, why has Spain not caught on to the FKK trend? Are there laws preventing it? From what I read Spain seems to be the best place to monger in Europe as far as value for money, beauties, GFE goes?

There is no GT chain in Germany. GT Vienna is just another club with the same name.

Babylon Hamburg is one of the worst clubs in Germany, where did you read something positive about it?

Clubs are legal in Spain AFAIK. But service levels are in general lower than in Germany and prices higher. Don't know where you get the conclusion from that Spain is "the best place to monger in Europe as far as value for money, beauties, GFE goes"?

HB.

[ExpatLover]

What about GT Vienna? I've heard great reports of that place having better quality women, is it part of the GT chain in Germany too?

Also where is the Babylon Hamburg thread, or is there none? Heard good reports of this place too in a few posts in the Atmos thread, I would like to know more of this place.

And on a side note, why has Spain not caught on to the FKK trend? Are there laws preventing it? From what I read Spain seems to be the best place to monger in Europe as far as value for money, beauties, GFE goes?

Sorry but except Germany mostly concentrated in Hessen and Berlin, there is no FKK trend in Europe. Even in NRW most of the girls are no fully naked.

[Sirioja]

What about GT Vienna? I've heard great reports of that place having better quality women, is it part of the GT chain in Germany too?

Also where is the Babylon Hamburg thread, or is there none? Heard good reports of this place too in a few posts in the Atmos thread, I would like to know more of this place.

And on a side note, why has Spain not caught on to the FKK trend? Are there laws preventing it? From what I read Spain seems to be the best place to monger in Europe as far as value for money, beauties, GFE goes?

Spanish clubs are also more expensive and not same level for girls, compare to my regulars. Not attracted by Latinas.

Spain is good for sun and foods.

For high level in FKK, Switzerland. Also for ski and white chocolate for me.

[The Cane]

It sounds like not everything about it is legal, but I don't know. If you play around for awhile you meet some girls who has been to marbella and give you stories from there. Although it seems lying about being russian is a requirement in marbella. Lol.

As we used to say back in the day, if you don't know, then you better ask somebody! Prostitution absolutely is legal in Spain, including owning a business where prostitution takes place. What is illegal is pimping or hiring somebody to be a prostitute. Now sure, sometimes the line can get a bit gray when analyzing a situation to determine if it's "pimping" or not, but in principle, prostitution is legal in Spain. Been there, openly mongered freely with no concerns whatsoever about getting in trouble with the law. Go and enjoy. Have a good time! Oh, and I fucked a girl in the ass in Barcelona who was indeed a Ruskie from some place in Siberia hehehe!

[Pistons]

And on a side note, why has Spain not caught on to the FKK trend? Are there laws preventing it? From what I read Spain seems to be the best place to monger in Europe as far as value for money, beauties, GFE goes?

I feel it is hard to get the right info regarding spain. Some girls I have met has pretty much told what I know about it. And some posters here. It sounds like not everything about it is legal, but I don't know. In czech rep it is also illegal, but still there is even an FKK there, and in strip clubs they sell sex. (I was there last year). Same with Slovenia too...

But perhaps because it is not too legal in spain, they hold down the marketing. So not much websites up, google maps markings etc.

What spain has is climate. And just as cheap flights as to and from germany... what I hate about germany is the random weather. The summer needs to last longer. Spain has a great climate for this stuff... price in the spanish brothels differs also alot. There are cheap places, but they lack the amenities. And there are high end nice fresh places which are as expensive as the most expensive austrian clubs... or more for all I know... not to mention boring marbella (for some girls it is boring apparently). If you play around for awhile you meet some girls who has been to marbella and give you stories from there. Although it seems lying about being russian is a requirement in marbella. Lol