American Politics

[EihTooms]

That's quite an achievement! During the last 100 years, the Dow only hit records during the Biden, Trump, Obama, George W. Bush, Clinton, George H. W. Bush, Reagan, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, Eisenhower, Hoover and Coolidge Administrations.

In fact, the only elected presidents during the last century who didn't see records set in the Dow were Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Harry Truman, and Jimmy Carter.

Looking forward to Toom's explanation, most likely during a cherry picked period, on how the stock market has outperformed under Democratic presidents. Tooms, it's just coincidence, like Roosevelt, Truman and Carter being Democrats.

That one is so easy I bet even you knew it before you posted that. The same as you knew the stock market has indeed performed better under Dems than Repubs:

Of that group only Hoover, GW Bush and Trump produced stock market crashes well beyond a conventional 20% Correction decline.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stocks-...rs-2020-03-18/

The stock market experiences gains roughly 75% of the time. That is the normal tendency for it. That is a factor in why investing in broadly diversified Index funds for the long term produces better results for more investors than stock picking; you will go along for that 75% ride and not miss it standing on the sidelines guessing which individual stocks might make up for what you missed.

But the 25% of the time when it declines can be brutal. History shows Repubs produce the most brutal declines. Well, all of them for the past 100 years or so.

It is during the most brutal declines that investors who just can't handle the pain bail out. By the millions. And usually at or near the bottom. Life savings and future plans are wiped out. Forever, if, as is often the case those investors vow to never return again.

That kind of deep decline has never happened under Dem economic policy and stewardship, it has only happened under Repubs since the Great Repub Crash and Depression.

Lackluster stock market returns are not damaging in that way. They do not tend to shake out investors by the millions after scary, serious, historic losses. For one thing, that is because such a period of lackluster returns, say 15-24 months, often comes about because the Fed spends that much time dithering over whether and how much to ease off raising or ease off lowering Fed Funds Rates in light of clear signs of a recovery from, typically, a Great Repub Economic Disaster. The Fed's dithering and indecision about that prevents investors from going in as much as they would ordinarily during such economically benign times. And the overall improvement in the economy keeps them from bailing out entirely.

Such was the case for about 16 months at the end of Obama's Great Dem Recovery while the Fed dithered over raising Rates as the full Recovery was solidifying and, this time, regarding lowering Fed Funds Rates related to unavoidable Trump's Pandemic Recovery Inflation, for the past 22 months of Biden's Great Dem Recovery. The markets simply traded within a range roughly between a Correction and the market high, not yet confident enough (due to Fed dithering about rates) to exceed the previous all time closing high.

That is much preferred over those Great Repub Crashes during periods of, wildly coincidentally I know, the exact same Repub-style disproportionately high tax cuts for top margins and corporations accompanied by little or no attention to regulations that, again, only wildly coincidentally, are promoted and overseen only by Repubs and never by Dems.

All wild coincidences, of course. The Major Repub Crashes and the Historic Dem Recoveries, that is. For about 100 years so far.

[MarquisdeSade1]

"If tweet were true, it's hard to see why MAGA nation and the faithless would be upset about the gay priests and LGBTQ rights. I'm sure just more subterfuge for the gullible MAGA media, who eat that "shit-up". Just like when he says, "Dictator ONLY on day 1".

"Social / Economic liberal", is that what you Repubs "moderate" and "normies" are calling themselves these days? (. kkkk!

Not too worry, in light of the Pope now allowing priests to bless LGBTQ couples, there's maybe hope for all those being called "son (s) of Satan" and who knows, maybe even the 2 x impeached, 4 x indicted "devil" himself? (. kkKk!

Local leaders welcome popes statement on LGBTQ couples.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...es/ar-AA1lHUFq

The homophobes here and at MILFs for Liberty, must be blowing a gasket, over the Pope's blessing of LGBTQ congregation. I wonder what that does for their "DON't SAY GAY!" laws and their so called religious beliefs, if the Pope is okaying / blessing LGBTQ unions?

https://www.newsmax.com/us/franklin-...21/id/1146754/

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/po...20/id/1146680/

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/r...19/id/1146480/

He will say anything for a few Argentinian pesos.

https://www.ncronline.org/news/javie...ions-argentina

[MarquisdeSade1]

"Your hero, lord and savior, oppressing immigrants and hiring undocumented workers. All to save a buck.

https://time.com/4465744/donald-trum...ented-workers/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ff7_story.html

He threatened to call the Immigration and Naturalization Service and have the Poles deported to avoid paying them. They were working 12 hours a day under unsafe conditions and not getting paid. ".

Seriously you're going to try to use Time or WAPO as a source LMAO.

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-elect...allot-removal/

WHOMP WHOMP WHOMP.

[Tiny 12]

Not too worry, in light of the Pope now allowing priests to bless LGBTQ couples, there's maybe hope for all those being called "son(s) of Satan"

I'm not Catholic.

[Tiny 12]

"Well, you pegged me wrong, I'm a social liberal and an economic liberal. That's why the Marquis believes I'm one of Satan's children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism".

https://www.breitbart.com/immigratio...avor-migrants/

Allahu Akbar.

Your hero, lord and savior, oppressing immigrants and hiring undocumented workers. All to save a buck.

https://time.com/4465744/donald-trum...ented-workers/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ff7_story.html

He threatened to call the Immigration and Naturalization Service and have the Poles deported to avoid paying them. They were working 12 hours a day under unsafe conditions and not getting paid.

[Tiny 12]

The latest stock market results and the coming easing of FED interest rate interference, has the markets roaring and surging to new highs.

Good one, Donald: Biden flaunts stock market record highs, mocks Trump for predicting collapse
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/15/bide...-collapse.html

President Joe Biden continues to delivery up exceptional economic results that translate to 52-wk and all-highs on all major stock indexes.

Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress on inflation
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...nterest-rates/

Real stewardship, real economy and real results...Book it!

That's quite an achievement! During the last 100 years, the Dow only hit records during the Biden, Trump, Obama, George W. Bush, Clinton, George H. W. Bush, Reagan, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, Eisenhower, Hoover and Coolidge Administrations.

In fact, the only elected presidents during the last century who didn't see records set in the Dow were Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Harry Truman, and Jimmy Carter.

Looking forward to Toom's explanation, most likely during a cherry picked period, on how the stock market has outperformed under Democratic presidents. Tooms, it's just coincidence, like Roosevelt, Truman and Carter being Democrats.

[EihTooms]

The DNC and Dirtbag Joe
"That before it was officially determined at the state level that the USA Constitution clearly states that anti-America insurrectionist traitors like Donald Trump are no more qualified and eligible to run for President and appear on a ballot for such than a 14 year old, a Russian National or a sea slug, Joe Biden was already beating him in the previously Mainstream Media-celebrated NYT / Sienna Poll and beating both DeSantis and Haley in the Ultra Winger-celebrated Harvard / Harris Poll:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Just sayin'. ".

Are existential threats to Democracy, charging their opponent with 90 felonies and illegally trying to kick him off the ballot.

They cheated in 2020 and trying to throw everything including the kitchen sink at him again.

They know they could never beat MAGA fair and square.

Dirtbag Joe needs to be indicted for all of this Jan 2025.

Will he pardon the Junkie and himself (and his whole Dirtbag crime family) before hes run out of office?

The lawsuit that brought it to this point in Colorado was filed by Repubs and 1 Independent. No Dems.

The DNC and Joe Biden had nothing to do with it.

And it has all been 100% legal. Your boy disqualified himself and made himself Constitutionally ineligible to be a so-called potus or any other federal official again.

But, there is still hope for you. There are surely enough America-hating Repub hypocrites on the Supreme Court to once again reverse every States Rights principle their party has been blathering about since forever and carve out a "one time only" exception to what is clearly stated in the USA Constitution in order to help your boy get into office and continue to shit all over the economy and national security as The Worst So-Called President of All Time. The same as they did for Repub GW Bush, The Second Worst So-Called President of All Time.

[MarquisdeSade1]

"Well, you pegged me wrong, I'm a social liberal and an economic liberal. That's why the Marquis believes I'm one of Satan's children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism".

https://www.breitbart.com/immigratio...avor-migrants/

Allahu Akbar.

[Spidy]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...Fid%3D48858527

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dona...ry?id=38566263

OK, now I'm trolling.

If tweet were true, it's hard to see why MAGA nation and the faithless would be upset about the gay priests and LGBTQ rights. I'm sure just more subterfuge for the gullible MAGA media, who eat that "shit-up". Just like when he says, "Dictator ONLY on day 1"

Well, you pegged me wrong, I'm a social liberal and an economic liberal. That's why the Marquis believes I'm one of Satan's children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism

"Social/Economic liberal", is that what you Repubs "moderate" and "normies" are calling themselves these days? (...kkkk!).

Not too worry, in light of the Pope now allowing priests to bless LGBTQ couples, there's maybe hope for all those being called "son(s) of Satan" and who knows, maybe even the 2x impeached, 4x indicted "devil" himself? (...kkKk!)

Local leaders welcome popes statement on LGBTQ couples
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...es/ar-AA1lHUFq

The homophobes here and at MILFs for Liberty, must be blowing a gasket, over the Pope's blessing of LGBTQ congregation. I wonder what that does for their "DON't SAY GAY!" laws and their so called religious beliefs, if the Pope is okaying/blessing LGBTQ unions?

[Spidy]

Now Quinnipiac is showing Biden ahead of Trump in a poll that must have been conducted before a State Supreme Court ruled that, sure enough, the USA Constitution stipulates in no uncertain terms that anti-America Insurrectionist Traitors like Donald Trump who already took and then proudly and publicly broke an Oath of Office to Preserve and Protect the laws in that very Constitution, lying through his teeth about that as well as everything else the whole time and ever since, are no longer qualified and eligible to be believed on such a serious proposition ever again. And, further, that it would be illegal for a state to grant him a second shot at it.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

The latest stock market results and the coming easing of FED interest rate interference, has the markets roaring and surging to new highs.

‘Good one, Donald’: Biden flaunts stock market record highs, mocks Trump for predicting ‘collapse’
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/15/bide...-collapse.html

President Joe Biden continues to delivery up exceptional economic results that translate to 52-wk and all-highs on all major stock indexes.

Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress on inflation
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...nterest-rates/

Real stewardship, real economy and real results...Book it!

[MarquisdeSade1]

That before it was officially determined at the state level that the USA Constitution clearly states that anti-America insurrectionist traitors like Donald Trump are no more qualified and eligible to run for President and appear on a ballot for such than a 14 year old, a Russian National or a sea slug, Joe Biden was already beating him in the previously Mainstream Media-celebrated NYT / Sienna Poll and beating both DeSantis and Haley in the Ultra Winger-celebrated Harvard / Harris Poll:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Just sayin'. ".

https://www.breitbart.com/latin-amer...lorado-ruling/

[MarquisdeSade1]

"That before it was officially determined at the state level that the USA Constitution clearly states that anti-America insurrectionist traitors like Donald Trump are no more qualified and eligible to run for President and appear on a ballot for such than a 14 year old, a Russian National or a sea slug, Joe Biden was already beating him in the previously Mainstream Media-celebrated NYT / Sienna Poll and beating both DeSantis and Haley in the Ultra Winger-celebrated Harvard / Harris Poll:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Just sayin'. ".

Are existential threats to Democracy, charging their opponent with 90 felonies and illegally trying to kick him off the ballot.

They cheated in 2020 and trying to throw everything including the kitchen sink at him again.

They know they could never beat MAGA fair and square.

Dirtbag Joe needs to be indicted for all of this Jan 2025.

Will he pardon the Junkie and himself (and his whole Dirtbag crime family) before hes run out of office?

[MarquisdeSade1]

"That before it was officially determined at the state level that the USA Constitution clearly states that anti-America insurrectionist traitors like Donald Trump are no more qualified and eligible to run for President and appear on a ballot for such than a 14 year old, a Russian National or a sea slug, Joe Biden was already beating him in the previously Mainstream Media-celebrated NYT / Sienna Poll and beating both DeSantis and Haley in the Ultra Winger-celebrated Harvard / Harris Poll:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Just sayin'. ".

On your electric vehicle (bike) and get to the nearest abortion provider, arent you overdue for another.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023...t-an-abortion/

More abortions = less Democrats in the future.

[EihTooms]

That before it was officially determined at the state level that the USA Constitution clearly states that anti-America insurrectionist traitors like Donald Trump are no more qualified and eligible to run for President and appear on a ballot for such than a 14 year old, a Russian National or a sea slug, Joe Biden was already beating him in the previously Mainstream Media-celebrated NYT / Sienna Poll and beating both DeSantis and Haley in the Ultra Winger-celebrated Harvard / Harris Poll:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Just sayin'.

Now Quinnipiac is showing Biden ahead of Trump in a poll that must have been conducted before a State Supreme Court ruled that, sure enough, the USA Constitution stipulates in no uncertain terms that anti-America Insurrectionist Traitors like Donald Trump who already took and then proudly and publicly broke an Oath of Office to Preserve and Protect the laws in that very Constitution, lying through his teeth about that as well as everything else the whole time and ever since, are no longer qualified and eligible to be believed on such a serious proposition ever again. And, further, that it would be illegal for a state to grant him a second shot at it.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Last month Qinnipiac was among the polling services along with that NYT / Sienna Poll that showed Trump ahead of Biden, which had Mainstream Media's heart all aflutter and excited to share that great news for its typically pro Repub "Bothsiderism" commercial and financial desires. But now, in light of both showing Biden ahead of Trump; crickets.

Still just sayin'.

Oh and, yes, that "2919" in my previous post was a typo. I meant to type 2019 as the year when, for anyone who thought they might pay off all of their credit card debt by the following year as, thanks to Joe and the Dems, a whopping 49% of credit card users feel confident about today, that assumption was certainly flushed down the shitter for the next few years thanks to the all-too-common results of Trump's classic disastrous Repub economic policies and stewardship in 2018,2019 and all through 2020.

Occasional typos are a hazard due to small keyboards and big thumbs. LOL.

[EihTooms]

"Uh-huh.

That's why spending and travel has been at "all time lows" ever since Biden and the Dems recovered us from the latest Great (Trump) Repub Economic Disaster.

Consumer spending reaches record high in October: report.

Dec. 4, 2023.

https://thehill.com/business/4341569...ctober-report/

Record US Holiday Air Travel to See 7. 5 Million Fly, AAA Says.

Dec. 11,2023.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...n-fly-aaa-says

Nobody has any money!.

Almost half of Americans with credit card debt (49%) are so secure in their jobs and wages now they are confident they will pay off all of their credit card debt within a year.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jaw-d...130022967.html

I could not have said that during the Reagan years, the Bush1 years and the GW Bush years. I doubt many Americans could. And if anyone said that in 2919, I'll bet they choked on that idea by 2020.

Oh, also from that link:

The survey found that 47% of Americans have not been debt-free since 2018 to 2022, 14% have not been debt-free since 2013 to 2017, 11% have not been debt-free since 2008 to 2012 and 15% havent been debt-free since before 2008.

Didn't your lord and savior boast about being "The King of Debt"? Looks like he finally got one right.

But considering it is likely the vast majority of Americans are more competent and responsible than Donald J. Trump, I wouldn't lose any sleep over their credit card debt if I were you. During the Great Trump / Repub Economic Disaster, sure, there was plenty to worry about. But during this Great Biden / Dem Recovery? Nope.

BTW, how many years do you suppose it has been since a USA-based Bank was even willing to extend your lord and savior significant credit either on a card or in a direct loan? LOL.