American Politics

[EihTooms]

You use don't have a clue. Last time Putin invaded Ukraine Obama as Biden sent blankets the Ukraine as USA relief effort. Putin waited until Trump was out of office to invade again. Biden is a joke to Putin. Biden is a joke to NATO and the world.

The last time the USA earmarked money and military aid for Ukraine in order to prevent Putin from strolling in to take over, Trump denied the release of that aid until just days before the set-aside would expire and only after a whistle blower contacted the House Dems and they began an investigation for why the fuck anyone in the USA government would side with Putin over Ukraine militarily in that way.

Enter American hero LT. Col. Alexander Vindman, the National Security expert on the issue who witnessed and testified to the blackmailing of Ukraine President Zelensky by our so-called "commander in chief" in possibly the most shameful, cowardly, self-serving betrayal of democracy in favor of authoritarian dictatorship in American history. Until January 6, 2021, of course. And then by the entire Repub Party ever since.

Did you ever wonder what Trump would have done with those hundreds of millions in military aid for Ukraine when it turned out there was no dirt on Biden for Zelensky to report and he was too honorable a man to play along with Trump's blackmail terms to fabricate some? Had the whistle blower not put an end to the outrage in the nick of time, I mean.

Something "really terrific!" I'm sure.

[PVMonger]

And that's really funny because who -- against rabid isolationist efforts to keep America neutral -- was first to support Britain struggling against the Nazis? And who eventually triumphed over the Nazis and Japanese?

Who stared down Khrushchev during the Cuban Missile Crisis?

Who escalated the Vietnam War?

Who ended the civil war in Yugoslavia?

Democrats, for better or, sometimes, worse.

The problem is that most repubs don't even know their own history aside from a few Hollywood productions. And those who do, have no moral qualms just brushing it aside to serve their tribal interests.

The whole essence of their bullshit propaganda is to make their opponents look weak. As if screaming off the top of their lungs somehow makes them tough and stately.

The fascists absolutely believe that "volume" equals "strength". Look at any of Hitler's speeches from the 30's and 40's. Did he ever speak softly?

Look at any of the Orange Fruitcake's speeches from when he was part-time, so-called potus. Did he ever speak softly?

Look at Ron "I'm even dumber than trump" DeSantis. Does he ever speak softly?

Look at Tucker "Nobody in their right mind should believe anything I say" Carlson's rants. Does he ever speak softly?

Look at the fascists on this board. Of course it is writing and not speaking but if typing had volume, they'd be yelling (liberally sprinkled with cries of "fake news") at the top of their lungs.

If fascists couldn't lie and yell, they wouldn't have anything to say.

[Xpartan]

Where liar?

Where did 200 million people speak?

I totally believe him.

United States.

18 years and over: 209,128,094.

21 years and over: 196,899,193.

[Xpartan]

And that's really funny because who -- against rabid isolationist efforts to keep America neutral -- was first to support Britain struggling against the Nazis? And who eventually triumphed over the Nazis and Japanese?

Who stared down Khrushchev during the Cuban Missile Crisis?

Who escalated the Vietnam War?

Who ended the civil war in Yugoslavia?

Democrats, for better or, sometimes, worse.

The problem is that most repubs don't even know their own history aside from a few Hollywood productions. And those who do, have no moral qualms just brushing it aside to serve their tribal interests.

The whole essence of their bullshit propaganda is to make their opponents look weak. As if screaming off the top of their lungs somehow makes them tough and stately.

[ScatManDoo]

200,000,000 people said they were better off under Trump presidency. Why do you keep lying?

Where liar?

Where did 200 million people speak?

[PVMonger]

You use don't have a clue. Last time Putin invaded Ukraine Obama as Biden sent blankets the Ukraine as USA relief effort. Putin waited until Trump was out of office to invade again. Biden is a joke to Putin. Biden is a joke to NATO and the world.

See, here's the problem. Just because the Orange Fruitcake, FUX "News" and Tucker "Nobody in their right mind should believe anything I say" Carlson say something, it doesn't make it true. In fact, if any of these idiots say something, it is almost certainly a lie.

The one-term, twice-impeached former guy used the "blankets" canard. Obama send the things that the Ukraine military needed, including UAVs, counter-mortar radars, night vision devices, Humvees, medical supplies and money. https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/26/p...eck/index.html.

But the fascists (like you) prefer to believe Donnie's lies. That's because he said he liked his supporters stupid. And trumpers certainly do qualify. I'll bet your reply to this post slams the source and / or uses the term "fake news".

[Axel Heyst]

The American backlash is coming and the Left knows it. The people are getting tired of this Brandon shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKfm4rqMd78&t=45s

[PVMonger]

Agreed. Xpartan nailed it.

Why in the world would Putin have wanted to interrupt Trump's fine work on his behalf in dismantling the Western Alliance, denigrating democracy everywhere including in the USA while praising his and other authoritarian dictatorships with a politically risky and ultimately unnecessary, as long as Trump was working for him, war in Ukraine?

The proof in what Putin was banking on with Trump with regard to Trump's utter indifference at best and outright hostility to democracy at worst was Trump's total surrender deal with the Taliban while entirely cutting out the government in Afghanistan.

Thanks to Trump, the Taliban could walk into most cities and regions in Afghanistan and resume their authoritarian rule without firing a single shot.

Putin knew very well a second Trump term at most would see him defunding all support economically and militarily from Ukraine and he could take over that country as easily.

The fascists support the authoritarians. Yep, in a recent poll, 62% of the fascist party support authoritarians over Democracy (surprise, surprise, surprise). Of course, the fascists who see this will say (as usual) that polls are useless or they are fake news or some other nonsense. https://news.yahoo.com/poll-as-ukrai...192437439.html.

Maybe they missed the latest episode of Tucker "Nobody in their right mind should believe anything I say" Carlson. Because Tucker, genius that he isn't, said the quiet part out loud. Again. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...aine-democrats And before the fascists say that Tucker didn't say that, here's the video https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1485...rc=twsrc%5Etfw.

So, once again, the Putin-loving fascists say that they prefer authoritarians over Democracy. Not that we didn't know that already.

[Canada]

Biden got 200 million+ of the smartest people in USA vaccinated with the vaccines Trump spent a year trying to convince the world nobody needed to invent or take.

Biden created more jobs in those 12 months than the three previous Repub so-called potus' did in their entire presidencies combined. Yep, one of them was Trump.

Biden reduced the unemployment rate to 3.9% from the double digits he inherited from Trump faster than anyone in history.

Biden's first year-over-year real GDP growth is on track to be well in the range Trump predicted his $2. 5+ Trillion waste of money one and only significant economic legislation would produce but failed to by half for even one of his pre Trump's Pandemic years.

Despite Trump's Pandemic Supply Chain Destruction Inflation, shipping and retail reps called this past Christmas under Biden the best holiday season ever!.

Why do you keep repeating lies? It already has been proven that there are less people working today than when Trump was president so no new one created.

200,000,000 people are suffering under Biden policies and inflation. 200,000,000 people said they were better off under Trump presidency. Why do you keep lying?

[Canada]

Obama and now Biden were all about maintaining, strengthening and expanding the Western Alliance / NATO in order to spread democracy around the world, which is anathema to Putin and his subservient puppets Trump, the Republican Party, Tucker Carlson and virtually every "conservative Repub" spokesman in winger media.

As long as Trump was willing to dangle and deny USA military support for budding democracy Ukraine unless its president fabricated dirt on his political opponents, clearly demonstrated indifference to his or any spread of authoritarian dictatorships to prevail over democracies and help him to dismantle the Western Alliance, there was very little work Putin needed to apply to the effort rather than simply wait for Trump and his fellow Repubs to deliver him Ukraine and anything else he wanted on a silver platter.

No so now that he is up against Biden.

You use don't have a clue. Last time Putin invaded Ukraine Obama as Biden sent blankets the Ukraine as USA relief effort. Putin waited until Trump was out of office to invade again. Biden is a joke to Putin. Biden is a joke to NATO and the world.

[EihTooms]

Stop confusing people with facts and common sense!!

Agreed. Xpartan nailed it.

Why in the world would Putin have wanted to interrupt Trump's fine work on his behalf in dismantling the Western Alliance, denigrating democracy everywhere including in the USA while praising his and other authoritarian dictatorships with a politically risky and ultimately unnecessary, as long as Trump was working for him, war in Ukraine?

The proof in what Putin was banking on with Trump with regard to Trump's utter indifference at best and outright hostility to democracy at worst was Trump's total surrender deal with the Taliban while entirely cutting out the government in Afghanistan.

Thanks to Trump, the Taliban could walk into most cities and regions in Afghanistan and resume their authoritarian rule without firing a single shot.

Putin knew very well a second Trump term at most would see him defunding all support economically and militarily from Ukraine and he could take over that country as easily.

And if Putin had initiated a military invasion under Trump for no reason whatsoever he would have risked western countries with or without Trump forming an alliance to push back and further isolate him. That would run counter to all the work Trump had put into denigrating democracies and elevating authoritarian dictatorships for his entire presidency.

This time around, Putin has no choice but to take that risk. Since January 20,2021, he no longer has a slavishly devoted promoter and puppet in the White House.

[EihTooms]

Putin didn't attack Ukraine under Trump presidency. He did under Obama and he will again under Biden. Putin only attacks the weak. Trump would have hurt Russia to much so Putin just waited for a puppet to come along and here is Biden.

Obama and now Biden were all about maintaining, strengthening and expanding the Western Alliance / NATO in order to spread democracy around the world, which is anathema to Putin and his subservient puppets Trump, the Republican Party, Tucker Carlson and virtually every "conservative Repub" spokesman in winger media.

As long as Trump was willing to dangle and deny USA military support for budding democracy Ukraine unless its president fabricated dirt on his political opponents, clearly demonstrated indifference to his or any spread of authoritarian dictatorships to prevail over democracies and help him to dismantle the Western Alliance, there was very little work Putin needed to apply to the effort rather than simply wait for Trump and his fellow Repubs to deliver him Ukraine and anything else he wanted on a silver platter.

No so now that he is up against Biden.

[EihTooms]

You are wrong. The last 12 months prove Biden is worse than Trump. From the economy to inflation to foreign policy Trump proved he better for USA than Biden.

Biden got 200 million+ of the smartest people in USA vaccinated with the vaccines Trump spent a year trying to convince the world nobody needed to invent or take.

Biden created more jobs in those 12 months than the three previous Repub so-called potus' did in their entire presidencies combined. Yep, one of them was Trump.

Biden reduced the unemployment rate to 3.9% from the double digits he inherited from Trump faster than anyone in history.

Biden's first year-over-year real GDP growth is on track to be well in the range Trump predicted his $2. 5+ Trillion waste of money one and only significant economic legislation would produce but failed to by half for even one of his pre Trump's Pandemic years.

Despite Trump's Pandemic Supply Chain Destruction Inflation, shipping and retail reps called this past Christmas under Biden the best holiday season ever!

Biden's first year stock market recovery from Trump's 2nd Bear Market decline in just one horrible term puts him at the top of the list of Presidents' annual average returns in the market. The gain seen just from his landslide victory over Trump to his inauguration alone was one of the greatest of all time and that isn't even included inhis 1st year record.

All thanks to Biden action and passed legislation, nothing to do with a so-called potus playing golf and sitting on the pot tweeting through 80% of his twice Impeached one miserable term.

Oh, and Biden is rebuilding the Western Alliance / NATO to strengthen and spread democracy around the world that Trump spent 4 years trying to dismantle at the behest of his Puppet Master Putin. Which, obviously, is really pissing off Putin after getting his ass licked by Trump for 4 years.

Naturally, Repubs would hate those Biden results in his first 12 months.

[Big Daddy 1906]

Wow, I don't think I've seen an argument as laughable as this one, and I thought I'd seen them all.

Postpone? Did I miss a full-scale invasion? Has it already begun and I missed the news?

Putin is a thug and a player. He played Trump for 4 years like a flute. Now that he can't get his way like before, he's muddying the waters again, pushing as hard as the world would allow him before backing down eventually. And I believe he will eventually back down and frame it as a victory for the internal consumption.

No shit, huh?

We're talking the same Trump who publicly asked Russia to dig up dirt on Hillary?

Same Trump who tried to water down the Congress' sanctions and then delayed signing them for as long as he could?

Same Trump who publicly said it was OK for Putin to keep Crimea?

Same Trump who publicly said he trusted Putin over his own security agencies?

Same Trump who laughed with Lavrov and Kislyak after firing Comey for Russian TASS (having locked our own news agencies out of the meeting)?

Same Trump who shared classified intelligence with Putin?

Same Trump who incessantly criticized NATO and who once said he wanted to withdraw?

Same Trump who, contrary to all diplomatic traditions, went to his meetings with Putin alone without even the interpreter?

I could go on and on and on about Trump caressing Putin's balls, and I'm perfectly prepared to back all the above and then some with reliable sources.

And often with Trump's own words because that's what degenerates do. They blurb.

But just to be clear, we're talking about THE SAME DUDE, correct?

Oh gee, I'll gladly take this risk. Knock yourself out.

Stop confusing people with facts and common sense!!

[PVMonger]

Putin respected Trump and a strong USA. Now with a weak frail president Putin is taking advantage of the situation. China and Russia are the big winners of the 2020 election. The American people are the big losers of the 2020 election.

Putin played the one-term, twice-impeached former guy like a fiddle. Even his own National Security advisor said so. Everybody but the fascists knows this. You don't know this, of course, because State TV lied to you.