American Politics

[EihTooms]

You are conflating the 2 issues. I think on purpose because you are obviously not unintelligent nor uneducated.

The open border: 1) the only reason the left wants an open border, insists on an open border, is that the Party Leaders desperately need a massive influx of new votes to achieve the ultimate objective of a nonviolent takeover of the United States of America and the establishment of a one-party socialist state. You know this, I know this, everyone with a functioning brain knows this, so cut the BS. 2) Because of this overwhelming compulsion to establish this socialist one-party state the Democrats in the White House and Congress and their partners and co-conspirators in the corporate media are willing to overlook the fact that thousands of these illegal immigrants currently crossing the border into the USA have the Covid 19 variant. This says everything you need to know concerning what is important to the neo-Marxists totalitarians and you for that matter because you ignore this disaster in all your posts.

The 2nd issue is the rampant increase in violent crime in all Democratic Party controlled major American cities. Roughly 80% of these violent crimes are Black on Black and therefore to do anything meaningful to reduce the violent crime in these areas would require refunding the police departments, restoring stop, ask, and frisk laws, and putting Black violent criminals in prisons which is something the Left is unwilling to do. So violent crime will continue to rise in all American cities as the incompetent, politically correct, Leftist mayors and governors will make more speeches on racism, gun control and how terrible it is to have licensed legal gun ownership in America IE the 2nd Amendment. It is all BS because the Left for strictly political reasons can not & will not admit who commits the highest percentage of violent crimes in American cities even though the victims of these violent crimes are predominately innocent Black Americans. Again, this says everything you need to know concerning what is important to the neo-Marxists totalitarians and you for that matter because you ignore this American disaster in all your posts.

I presume you will post a lengthy comeback position ignoring the crux of my post. That's fine. I wouldn't dream of suppressing your freedom of speech or thought the way your Antifa, BLM bully boys are salivating to suppress my freedoms, but frankly as a long time fellow BKK punter and lover of Thai girls, there is nothing more you and I can say to one another on American Politics as long as you support open borders, rampant violent crime in American cities, and the 3rd issue; CRT indoctrination of American children in schools.

Sawasdee Krab,

NB.

Natty, again, you have joined the "What links? What proof? We don't need any stinking proof! We just need to say it!" crowd here who has no proof or evidence to support your position.

In this case, I can see that illegals crossing the border really, really bugs you. But until you can show me that what is happening at the border is creating a "crisis" in the USA economy or producing grave damage to national security I am not going to share your hand-wringing, teeth gnashing worry about it. I realize it is "something" to pay attention to. But it can and should go way down the list of things for me to, say, base a precious vote on.

For example, I would much rather vote against the next Great Repub Crash, Recession and "Once in 100 Years Disaster!", a REAL threat to the economy and national security, which all historical evidence clearly shows is what will very likely happen if and when a Repub occupies the White House and/or has majority control of Congress than base my vote on some imaginary and unsubstantiated threat to myself, my friends, my family, my country or my money like this made up "crisis!" regarding dark skinned people crossing the border.

[Beijing4987]

Where have we heard that before? The, I agree that the dynamic duo in the White House is substandard, but look at the pile of crap left for them to deal with by the great businessman who alone could fix it, but didn't? You trolls don't understand "nuance", but as W said, "even the French Don't have a word for that". There are plenty of ISG members who have destroyed your arguments. But in your mind that makes them the dreaded "communists". The CCP call themselves communists, but they are brutal thugs presiding over an opaque capitalist system called "socialism with Chinese characteristics. You failed to critically study history, but that can be partially blamed on educational systems, but you can overcome that gap with further study. Come back and see us when you have more knowledge, instead of spewing venom because of your grievances against people who "don't belong here" You can not define me. I define myself with my own words.

[Canada]

You always say that there's evidence but you never post any. Why is that?

How is an unvaccinated illegal with COVID different from an unvaccinated dumper with COVID? Dumpers don't travel?

If they are "uneducated illegals that will end up on welfare, etc", how does that square with your previous statements that they are here to take US jobs? Which jobs? Sex worker jobs? Jobs picking fruits and vegetables? You want to have everything both ways. They are either uneducated or they're not! If they are, then they can't take the jobs that Americans don't want. If they are educated, then calling them uneducated is a lie.

There are as many unvaccinated democrats as Republicans. Unvaccinated illegals are not wearing masks and several have Covid. They can't take jobs from Americans because employers can't hire them legally. As per laws by Obama. They will have to be sex workers, join gangs, sell drugs or work for some illegal employers. You claim they are coming to pick vegetables but you have not provided any proof of this. Show me where these 2,000,000 are picking vegetables. Show me the jobs they are taking that Americans won't do. You made these statements so prove it. I can prove that illegals can't work legally in the USA.

[Canada]

Don't try and reason with them. They are too far gone. The purpose of their trolling is autostimulation. I believe it is a mistake to engage with them in any manner.

John Clayton said don't try and reason with them. Reason is democrats can't reason with people who have common sense. They said Trump was too slow to react to Covid and now Biden has had the chance to learn from Trump but he blazes away a new trail on Covid restrictions.

Border to Canada is closed so no vaccinated Canadians can enter our country to keep USA citizens safe.

Border from Mexico is open to illegals that aren't vaccinated with about 30% of them actually getting Covid.

2,000,000 unvaccinated illegals entering USA travelling on buses and planes to several states.

Now USA has a Covid surge so we must get all USA citizens to start wearing masks. Illegals are except.

Is there one democrat here with common sense that we can reason with?

Is there one democrat here that can explain why 100 vaccinated people can enter the USA legally but 2,000,000 unvaccinated illegals can enter and it is not a threat to Covid super spreading?

I realize democrats can't reason with common sense but there has to be one that is smart enough to admit this might be a Covid problem.

[Spidy]

This is exactly how I expected you to respond.

You made a false statement. I destroyed it point-by-point. You persisted in your false statement. I destroyed your false statement a second time.

But, instead of taking the adult approach and refuting what I said point-by-point, you respond with third-grade name calling. But that's what you fascists do. You spout off and repeat the party line and then, when you get called out, you just repeat the same hogwash. You have no idea what the party line means, of course, and that's why you can't speak about it intelligently.

After that, your arguments devolve into childish name calling like "liberal welfare recipient" and "loser". There's a psychological term for what you do called projection Look it up. BTW, dump was excellent at it.

This seems to rinse and repeat at least a couple of times on every recent page of this thread.

Parrots Hahaha.

Yep! It all a matter of guessing which "cycle" they are on. I think they're just stuck on "spin" cycle. ...kkkk

[John Clayton]

You always say that there's evidence but you never post any. Why is that?

How is an unvaccinated illegal with COVID different from an unvaccinated dumper with COVID? Dumpers don't travel?

If they are "uneducated illegals that will end up on welfare, etc", how does that square with your previous statements that they are here to take US jobs? Which jobs? Sex worker jobs? Jobs picking fruits and vegetables? You want to have everything both ways. They are either uneducated or they're not! If they are, then they can't take the jobs that Americans don't want. If they are educated, then calling them uneducated is a lie.

Don't try and reason with them. They are too far gone. The purpose of their trolling is autostimulation. I believe it is a mistake to engage with them in any manner.

[PVMonger]

Yes there is evidence that their is criminal activity at the border. Sex trafficking is at all time high. Drugs crossing border at record levels. Border agents attacked. Hotels at the border full of Covid illegals that are going to fast food places and walking the streets spreading Covid. Texas and California Covid numbers increasing. 30% of illegals tested have Covid. They are travelling to other states on buses spreading it to other states. 2,000,000 illegals crossed the border under Biden. They are provided hotel, food, bus tickets. These are uneducated illegals that will mostly end up on welfare, sex workers or selling drugs on the streets. Money that is being spent on illegals could be used to help the American poor and the homeless but Biden and the democrats don't care about these people.

You always say that there's evidence but you never post any. Why is that?

How is an unvaccinated illegal with COVID different from an unvaccinated dumper with COVID? Dumpers don't travel?

If they are "uneducated illegals that will end up on welfare, etc", how does that square with your previous statements that they are here to take US jobs? Which jobs? Sex worker jobs? Jobs picking fruits and vegetables? You want to have everything both ways. They are either uneducated or they're not! If they are, then they can't take the jobs that Americans don't want. If they are educated, then calling them uneducated is a lie.

[ScatManDoo]

This is exactly how I expected you to respond.

You made a false statement. I destroyed it point-by-point. You persisted in your false statement. I destroyed your false statement a second time.

But, instead of taking the adult approach and refuting what I said point-by-point, you respond with third-grade name calling. But that's what you fascists do. You spout off and repeat the party line and then, when you get called out, you just repeat the same hogwash. You have no idea what the party line means, of course, and that's why you can't speak about it intelligently.

After that, your arguments devolve into childish name calling like "liberal welfare recipient" and "loser". There's a psychological term for what you do called projection Look it up. BTW, dump was excellent at it.

This seems to rinse and repeat at least a couple of times on every recent page of this thread.

Parrots Hahaha.

[Canada]

You are conflating the 2 issues. I think on purpose because you are obviously not unintelligent nor uneducated.

The open border: 1) the only reason the left wants an open border, insists on an open border, is that the Party Leaders desperately need a massive influx of new votes to achieve the ultimate objective of a nonviolent takeover of the United States of America and the establishment of a one-party socialist state. You know this, I know this, everyone with a functioning brain knows this, so cut the BS. 2) Because of this overwhelming compulsion to establish this socialist one-party state the Democrats in the White House and Congress and their partners and co-conspirators in the corporate media are willing to overlook the fact that thousands of these illegal immigrants currently crossing the border into the USA have the Covid 19 variant. This says everything you need to know concerning what is important to the neo-Marxists totalitarians and you for that matter because you ignore this disaster in all your posts..

Great post. But be prepared for backlash. The left hate the truth and your post is the truth so be prepared.

[Canada]

Natty, the reason I didn't address the issues you are hand-wringing worried about is because they either don't exist and have already been thoroughly debunked by others here or they are virtually irrelevant to the economy or national security.

Case in point; "Biden's border crisis!"

What "border crisis"?

Has there been an alarming spike in violent crime committed by newly arriving undocumented immigrants?

I have not seen evidence of greater spread of Trump's Pandemic virus in USA border states. It is largely happening in Red States like DeSantis' Florida, again the coronovirus epicenter of the universe and racking up as many new cases per day in just that one state as the entire country of Thailand.

Is there evidence that these undocumented immigrants are damaging the Biden/Dem economic recovery from the latest Great Repub Crash and Recession? Where? How? It can't be that they are taking jobs away from USA citizens. Despite the millions of USA jobs Trump's economic decisions destroyed, in many cases there are more jobs available during the Biden/Dem recovery than there are applicants to take them..

Yes there is evidence that their is criminal activity at the border. Sex trafficking is at all time high. Drugs crossing border at record levels. Border agents attacked. Hotels at the border full of Covid illegals that are going to fast food places and walking the streets spreading Covid. Texas and California Covid numbers increasing. 30% of illegals tested have Covid. They are travelling to other states on buses spreading it to other states. 2,000,000 illegals crossed the border under Biden. They are provided hotel, food, bus tickets. These are uneducated illegals that will mostly end up on welfare, sex workers or selling drugs on the streets. Money that is being spent on illegals could be used to help the American poor and the homeless but Biden and the democrats don't care about these people.

[PVMonger]

Natty, the reason I didn't address the issues you are hand-wringing worried about is because they either don't exist and have already been thoroughly debunked by others here or they are virtually irrelevant to the economy or national security.

Case in point; "Biden's border crisis!"

What "border crisis"?

Has there been an alarming spike in violent crime committed by newly arriving undocumented immigrants?

I have not seen evidence of greater spread of Trump's Pandemic virus in USA border states. It is largely happening in Red States like DeSantis' Florida, again the coronovirus epicenter of the universe and racking up as many new cases per day in just that one state as the entire country of Thailand.

Is there evidence that these undocumented immigrants are damaging the Biden/Dem economic recovery from the latest Great Repub Crash and Recession? Where? How? It can't be that they are taking jobs away from USA citizens. Despite the millions of USA jobs Trump's economic decisions destroyed, in many cases there are more jobs available during the Biden/Dem recovery than there are applicants to take them.

Btw, Fauci? Lol. You've got to be kidding. There is no evidence that Fauci did what you stated. However, when he first opined it was not so important or necessary to wear a mask, he had been lied to by Trump about the intel Trump already had about the virulence of the virus. You know, "There is 1 case out of China, 15 cases here and soon.those 15 will be close to zero." There is plenty of evidence that Fauci was lied to by Trump, as was almost everyone else on the planet, but no evidence that Trump was lied to by Fauci..

He will say that the articles that support his position exist but Google and the rest of "big tech" are purposely not showing those articles on their search engines.

On one hand, "the articles don't exist" versus, on the other hand, "there a vast left wing conspiracy to hide relevant pro-dump articles from the public." Occam's Razor, folks. Occam's Razor!

[Member #4698]

Natty, the reason I didn't address the issues you are hand-wringing worried about is because they either don't exist and have already been thoroughly debunked by others here or they are virtually irrelevant to the economy or national security.

Case in point; "Biden's border crisis!"

What "border crisis"?

Has there been an alarming spike in violent crime committed by newly arriving undocumented immigrants?

You are conflating the 2 issues. I think on purpose because you are obviously not unintelligent nor uneducated.

The open border: 1) the only reason the left wants an open border, insists on an open border, is that the Party Leaders desperately need a massive influx of new votes to achieve the ultimate objective of a nonviolent takeover of the United States of America and the establishment of a one-party socialist state. You know this, I know this, everyone with a functioning brain knows this, so cut the BS. 2) Because of this overwhelming compulsion to establish this socialist one-party state the Democrats in the White House and Congress and their partners and co-conspirators in the corporate media are willing to overlook the fact that thousands of these illegal immigrants currently crossing the border into the USA have the Covid 19 variant. This says everything you need to know concerning what is important to the neo-Marxists totalitarians and you for that matter because you ignore this disaster in all your posts.

The 2nd issue is the rampant increase in violent crime in all Democratic Party controlled major American cities. Roughly 80% of these violent crimes are Black on Black and therefore to do anything meaningful to reduce the violent crime in these areas would require refunding the police departments, restoring stop, ask, and frisk laws, and putting Black violent criminals in prisons which is something the Left is unwilling to do. So violent crime will continue to rise in all American cities as the incompetent, politically correct, Leftist mayors and governors will make more speeches on racism, gun control and how terrible it is to have licensed legal gun ownership in America IE the 2nd Amendment. It is all BS because the Left for strictly political reasons can not & will not admit who commits the highest percentage of violent crimes in American cities even though the victims of these violent crimes are predominately innocent Black Americans. Again, this says everything you need to know concerning what is important to the neo-Marxists totalitarians and you for that matter because you ignore this American disaster in all your posts.

I presume you will post a lengthy comeback position ignoring the crux of my post. That's fine. I wouldn't dream of suppressing your freedom of speech or thought the way your Antifa, BLM bully boys are salivating to suppress my freedoms, but frankly as a long time fellow BKK punter and lover of Thai girls, there is nothing more you and I can say to one another on American Politics as long as you support open borders, rampant violent crime in American cities, and the 3rd issue; CRT indoctrination of American children in schools.

Sawasdee Krab,

NB.

[EihTooms]

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But there is no point in discussing this with you any further. I know you are a Marcusian. Nothing more needs to be said. For example, I believe you honestly think that Jimmy Carter was a great President and defeated stagflation. The good news for you is that it looks like Joe Biden is following in Carter's footsteps. Your important work describing all the good things that are happening in America today and hiding the reality should be in high demand among your circle of political and economic pals. Good times!

Stagflation? Talk about non sequiturs. Natty, until this post I don't recall ever typing the word "stagflation" on this site.

Maybe you are thinking of "hyper-inflation", the double-digit kind that Carter's appointed Fed Chairman, Paul Volker, tackled and defeated starting in late 1979. The defeat that Ronald Reagan falsely took credit for in his 1984 "Morning in America" re-election ads since he wasn't the president who appointed Paul Volker in late 1979 knowing full well what he would have to do to defeat hyper-inflation and, therefore, Reagan wasn't the president who shouldered the heavy lifting and assumed all the political risk to defeat it.

Carter was.

Yeah, I have posted about that before.

Fed Funds Rate History: Its Highs, Lows, and Charts
Updated July 29, 2021
https://www.thebalance.com/fed-funds...s-lows-3306135

Federal Reserve chair Paul Volcker ended the Fed's stop-go policy in 1979. He raised rates and kept them there to finally end inflation. That created the 1980 recession, but it thoroughly ended double-digit inflation, which hasn't been a threat since.

[EihTooms]

ET, it is always entertaining to see how you bring up non sequiturs in your talking points in order to skate around an issue and obfuscate the truth. Case in point: "Uncle Joe would (not) have radically cut the CDC budget, pulled our monitoring representatives out of the Chinese labs and effectively dismantled our Pandemic Prevention and Response systems against all expert advice and despite specific warnings about doing such a thing likely leading to exactly the outcome it led to as early as 2018, more than a year before those warnings proved correct."

Excuse me, but wasn't it the American Left's favorite boy Dr. Fauci, the preeminent medical expert on Corona diseases who secretly oversaw the funding of change of function research in the Wuhan Lab where Covid 19 pathogens escaped from in the first place? And did it never occur to you that maybe Dr. Fauci lied to Trump in early November & December 2019 to cover up his complicity. Look man, you keep trying to put the blame on Trump when the real blame goes to the Chinese Government who knew sooner than anyone what had happened, locked down all their cities in draconian fashion, but allowed their nationals to get on planes and infect the world. The Chinese Communist Government did that not Trump.

But you don't want to talk about reality or what is really going on now. Any reality that would hold the Chinese Communist Government responsible for the worst pandemic outbreak since the Spanish Flu is a no-go zone for you. Oh no. That is why you try to obfuscate issue.

Another case in point: I could not help but notice how you said nothing in your response to my post about what is occurring right now under Joe Biden's incompetent mis-governance on the Mexican American border where thousands of Covid 19 Variant infected illegal aliens have been allowed to cross over into my country and have then been transported at US taxpayers expense to every part of the country. This gross failure of leadership and rational decision making makes whatever shortcomings you claim Trump had in dealing with Covid in 2019 small in comparison especially when noted that back in November 2019, all the world's politicians including the leaders of the American Democratic Party, the leaders of Western European countries, Canada, Australia, and SE Asia did the same thing. To any honest person this truth is as clear as night and day. The only guilty party in all this is RED China for allowing the virus to get out of China after they knew it was deadly and infectious and of course Dr Fauci and his buddies who were responsible for partially funded the research at the Wuhan Lab and then covering it up.

But there is no point in discussing this with you any further. I know you are a Marcusian. Nothing more needs to be said. For example, I believe you honestly think that Jimmy Carter was a great President and defeated stagflation. The good news for you is that it looks like Joe Biden is following in Carter's footsteps. Your important work describing all the good things that are happening in America today and hiding the reality should be in high demand among your circle of political and economic pals. Good times!

Natty, the reason I didn't address the issues you are hand-wringing worried about is because they either don't exist and have already been thoroughly debunked by others here or they are virtually irrelevant to the economy or national security.

Case in point; "Biden's border crisis!"

What "border crisis"?

Has there been an alarming spike in violent crime committed by newly arriving undocumented immigrants?

I have not seen evidence of greater spread of Trump's Pandemic virus in USA border states. It is largely happening in Red States like DeSantis' Florida, again the coronovirus epicenter of the universe and racking up as many new cases per day in just that one state as the entire country of Thailand.

Is there evidence that these undocumented immigrants are damaging the Biden/Dem economic recovery from the latest Great Repub Crash and Recession? Where? How? It can't be that they are taking jobs away from USA citizens. Despite the millions of USA jobs Trump's economic decisions destroyed, in many cases there are more jobs available during the Biden/Dem recovery than there are applicants to take them.

Btw, Fauci? Lol. You've got to be kidding. There is no evidence that Fauci did what you stated. However, when he first opined it was not so important or necessary to wear a mask, he had been lied to by Trump about the intel Trump already had about the virulence of the virus. You know, "There is 1 case out of China, 15 cases here and soon.those 15 will be close to zero." There is plenty of evidence that Fauci was lied to by Trump, as was almost everyone else on the planet, but no evidence that Trump was lied to by Fauci.

As has been pointed out, rather than simply accusing me or someone else of "obfuscating the truth", why not post a link to some kind of report that refutes the linked reports I posted? If you can't because there aren't any, well, I guess you're just blowing smoke.

[Canada]

I chime in from time to time when I read logical fallacies by the right wing sex addicts here, calling me a Democrat. Amerika has but one religion, and that is capitalism. Those who feel that they are causing heat," sticking it to liberals, snowflakes, libtards" are tiny repetitive crybabies taking a break from writing previous Penthouse Letters to ISG. I ask for the "beef", something substantive to prove their point and read only more rabid spewing of generalizations. Yes, Fat Nixon took on China for its theft of intellectual property etc. But in a jingoistic and uncoordinated way. Let common sense prevail.

Common sense with a communist country. That is your solution! Communists think different than a free country. Their common sense and Republican common sense are totally different. Possibly Biden left wing politics and a communist country can think alike and solve the issues with common sense because they think alike. But the problem is most Americans don't want us to have the same common sense as communists. Look at Cuba. Biden supports Cuban government and does nothing waiting for common sense. Cubans suffer. Do you really think every country hates capitalism and prosperity? Do you really think every country wants to be dependent on the government? America wants to be free.