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08-05-21 14:43 #4282
Posts: 1604I copied this but it is still worth reading.
I came across this as a comment on why liberals think Trump supporters are stupid?
It's well worth a read.
The serious answer: Here's what we really think about Trump supporters. The rich, the poor, the malignant and the innocently well-meaning, the ones who think and the ones who don't.
That when you saw a man who had owned a fraudulent University, intent on scamming poor people, you thought "Fine."
That when you saw a man who had made it his business practice to stiff his creditors, you said, "Okay."
That when you heard him proudly brag about his own history of sexual abuse, you said, "No problem."
That when he made up stories about seeing Muslim-Americans in the thousands cheering the destruction of the World Trade Center, you said, "Not an issue."
That when you saw him brag that he could shoot a man on Fifth Avenue and you wouldn't care, you chirped, "he sure knows me."
That when you heard him illustrate his own character by telling that cute story about the elderly guest bleeding on the floor at his country club, the story about how he turned his back and how it was all an imposition on him, you said, "That's cool!
That when you saw him mock the disabled, you thought it was the funniest thing you ever saw.
That when you heard him brag that he doesn't read books, you said, "Well, who has time?
That when the Central Park Five were compensated as innocent men convicted of a crime they didn't commit, and he angrily said that they should still be in prison, you said, "That makes sense."
That when you heard him tell his supporters to beat up protesters and that he would hire attorneys, you thought, Yes!
That when you heard him tell one rally to confiscate a man's coat before throwing him out into the freezing cold, you said, "What a great guy!
That you have watched the parade of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with whom he curries favor, while refusing to condemn outright Nazis, and you have said, "Thumbs up!
That you hear him unable to talk to foreign dignitaries without insulting their countries and demanding that they praise his electoral win, you said, "That's the way I want my President to be."
That you have watched him remove expertise from all layers of government in favor of people who make money off of eliminating protections in the industries they're supposed to be regulating and you have said, "What a genius!
That you have heard him continue to profit from his businesses, in part by leveraging his position as President, to the point of overcharging the Secret Service for space in the properties he owns, and you have said, "That's smart!
That you have heard him say that it was difficult to help Puerto Rico because it was in the middle of water and you have said, "That makes sense."
That you have seen him start fights with every country from Canada to New Zealand while praising Russia and quote, "falling in love" with the dictator of North Korea, and you have said, "That's statesmanship!
That Trump separated children from their families and put them in cages, managed to lose track of 1500 kids, has opened a tent city incarceration camp in the desert in Texas. He explains that they're just "animals" - and you say, "Well, OK then. "
That you have witnessed all the thousand and one other manifestations of corruption and low moral character and outright animalistic rudeness and contempt for you, the working American voter, and you still show up grinning and wearing your MAGA hats and threatening to beat up anybody who says otherwise.
What you don't get, Trump supporters in 2020, is that succumbing to frustration and thinking of you as stupid may be wrong and unhelpful, but it's also. Hear me. Charitable.
Because if you're NOT stupid, we must turn to other explanations, and most of them are less flattering.
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08-05-21 14:05 #4281
Posts: 1604Of course.
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
The sad part of all of this isn't that racism exists or that dumpism merely gave racists the cover to come out into the sunlight. No, the sad part is that HRC was right, at least in part. She called dumpers "a basket of deplorables". Since 74+ million of them voted for dump in 2020, she was wrong only in the size of the container.
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08-05-21 08:53 #4280
Posts: 1126Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
Dude leaves behind a wife and child. The wife is COVID positive, so let hope she pulls through for sake of the child.
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08-05-21 05:58 #4279
Posts: 5461Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
Conservatives harbor an odd admiration for Vladimir Putin
March 7, 2014
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/topo...306-story.html
All of this suggests two things. One is that conservatives despise Obama as much as they ever detested any Soviet leader and so they give more slack to Russias president than they do to their own. The other is that todays conservatives like their leaders to be testosterone-driven tough guys who dispense with niceties and nuance.
Oh, how happy they would be if they could find their own Vladimir Putin to run for president in 2016.
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08-05-21 05:29 #4278
Posts: 5461Ryan is not just a USA economy-destroying hypocrite on government spending
Originally Posted by Horatio [View Original Post]
Theres two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump, McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.
House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthys assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.
Imagine how different the world would be today and how many Americans would still be alive if that supposedly "very good person" Paul Ryan had not demanded his fellow Repubs behave and keep quiet about what every lucid person on the planet with at least minimal comprehension skills could figure out and instead, oh I don't know, spearheaded and supported an Impeachment, conviction and removal from office for Trump sometime before he wasted Trillion$ on that totally useless idiotic December 2017 economic legislation and defunded the CDC in 2018.
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08-05-21 05:09 #4277
Posts: 5461Too few to show a blip on the screen
Originally Posted by Philosophus [View Original Post]
The reason those possible couple of "good people" in the Republican Party get drowned out is because producing positive results for America is not what their chosen Party is about. Never has been. Never will be. Their Party's mission is to produce the exact opposite of positive results for America. And in that mission they have proven to be terrifically competent and successful whenever the American electorate is foolish enough to give them another, another and another chance to demonstrate their expertise at doing that very thing and nothing else.
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08-05-21 04:53 #4276
Posts: 1966Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
That has never been the case. Not during the Great Depression, not ever. That's the last 30 years of American history, from Gingrich to Trump.
The Republican Party has become the only major ultra-right political party in the world. Another record.
Should we really be surprised that so many republicans are enamored with Putin?
How the GOP Became the Party of Putin
Republicans have sold their souls to Russia. And Trump isnt the only reason why
https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...-putin-215387/
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08-05-21 01:48 #4275
Posts: 1604Darwin Strikes Again
"A GOP official from Texas who regularly espoused anti-vaccine and anti-mask views online has died from COVID-19, five days after posting a meme on Facebook questioning the wisdom of getting inoculated against COVID."
https://news.yahoo.com/texas-gop-off...213828504.html
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08-05-21 01:43 #4274
Posts: 1604And yet
Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
How come? Is Google hiding those pesky links again?
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08-05-21 01:39 #4273
Posts: 1604Wrong, wrong, wrong
Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
You called the Associated Press "fake news" when a poster used an AP article to prove you wrong. Again. The AP has been around since 1846. Do you actually think that they would have lasted for over 150 years if all they told were lies? C'Mon., defend that.
Then, when you came up with yet another lie about the death of a CBP afent, Fux "News" didn't report your lie. How come you didn't call them "fake news"? C'Mon, defend that.
And lastly, when CNN and other of your so-called "fake news" outlets pilloried Gov. Cuomo, what did you do? You stayed silent. How come? C'on, defend that.
What shade of lipstick do you wear?
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08-05-21 00:30 #4272
Posts: 492What was Paul Ryan's position on govt spending when he was first elected and what was his legacy on govt spending when he left office?
Originally Posted by Philosophus [View Original Post]
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08-05-21 00:11 #4271
Posts: 102Don't get carried away
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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08-04-21 23:37 #4270
Posts: 1068Democrats hating usa
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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08-04-21 23:31 #4269
Posts: 1068Because it is
Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
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08-04-21 22:55 #4268
Posts: 1604I think the Great Depression was worse, but
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
But the orange buffoon's botched response to COVID killed more Americans than all American combat deaths in WWII. His botched response resulted in America's average age going down. Of course, RethugliKKKans will be the first to equivocate but the facts are clear: the orange buffoon was to blame.
What I don't understand is why he has tried so hard to keep a job that he was so bad at. I guess the "Peter Principle" was right: he rose to his level of incompetence. Then got kicked to the curb.