American Politics

[EihTooms]

Biden said that any president that had that many deaths from a virus should resign. Trump had no vaccine until December 2020. No one was vaccinate under Trump presidency and less people died than under Biden. Kind of defeats your theory doesn't it? Biden has had three vaccines for 11 months and has more people die than died under Trump. By his own admission shouldn't he resign?

If Biden had promised to solve homelessness in America and, sure enough, 6 months into his first term in office delivered a door key and deed to a lovely 3 bedroom 2 bathroom home to every man, woman and child in America at no charge to them, it would be obvious that Biden had indeed solved homelessness in America in spectacular fashion even if all 37,000,000 Repubs who followed Trump's recommendation to "Vote Twice!" for him last year chose instead the FreeDumb of crawling into a cardboard furniture box and wallowing in their own piss, shit and filth every night.

You're not going to generate much pity for those Repub FreeDumbshits or resentment for Biden in the rest of us relaxing in our new homes in such an analogous outcome regardless whatever word game you come up with about it. Same as the reality that Trump's incompetence and cowardice lead directly to every death from Trump's Pandemic after perhaps the first 100 or so deaths in China while Biden's competence and determination continues to save millions upon millions of lives.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Yes, Tough On Crime Newsom passed a law that prosecutors can charge every member of an organized smash-and-grab robbery, which is not the crime of "looting" BTW, with a felony even if all they got away with was a candy bar. That is known as deterring a crime from being committed in the first place.

As far as stopping smash-and-grab robberies in process, which are not only happening in California, is your brilliant idea to accomplish that to line the streets with SWAT Teams blocking windows and doors of every retail store 24/7 on the chance that any one of those stores could be targeted by the sudden arrival of such a team in a car or truck at any moment?

Do you have any idea how much funding and manpower that would require in California and around the country, not to mention the decline in the high quality of life so many Californians enjoy?

California catches, prosecutes and incarcerates plenty. How do you think their prisons got so full?

https://amgreatness.com/2021/12/02/c...for-criminals/

[ScatManDoo]

Biden said that any president that had that many deaths from a virus should resign. Trump had no vaccine until December 2020. No one was vaccinate under Trump presidency and less people died than under Biden. Kind of defeats your theory doesn't it? Biden has had three vaccines for 11 months and has more people die than died under Trump. By his own admission shouldn't he resign?

Both presidents presided over about 10 months of the pandemic. The World Health Organization declared that label on March 11, meaning Trump was president for a little more than 10 months of the formally declared pandemic. Biden has now passed a little more than 10 months in office as well.

Thus far, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Biden has presided over about 353,000 deaths in a little over 10 months, compared to about 425,000 for Trump in his final 10-plus months. So there have still been fewer deaths under Biden than under Trump, in a similar time period.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...-covid-deaths/

With republican deaths likely far surpassing the rate death of democrats these days, it might be too soon to give this pandemic a complete wrap.

[Xpartan]

Biden said that any president that had that many deaths from a virus should resign. Trump had no vaccine until December 2020. No one was vaccinate under Trump presidency and less people died than under Biden. Kind of defeats your theory doesn't it? Biden has had three vaccines for 11 months and has more people die than died under Trump. By his own admission shouldn't he resign?

Interesting. So degenerate crackpots who're dying in mass (8-10 times more than the vaccinated), who are kicking, screaming, fighting against free, easy and life-saving vaccines are somehow Biden's fault?

Is Delta variant, which is more than 2 X contagious than the original Trump virus, Biden's fault too?

Swell!

[Cali Guy]

Yeah, but the vast majority of USA Covid deaths now are Repubs who bought the con Trump was selling all through 2020 that it was a "Democrat Party HOAX!" and "This will go away without a vaccine!" For everyone else Biden's efforts to save millions of American lives have been a resounding success.

If Repubs are so intent upon committing Suicide By Trump's Pandemic Virus and permanently remove themselves from the voter rolls by refusing to get vaxxed, there is nothing Biden can do to stop them. Unless you are suggesting Biden sign an Executive Order requiring every American to get fully vaccinated or be incarcerated.

Is that what you want Biden to do?

Biden said that any president that had that many deaths from a virus should resign. Trump had no vaccine until December 2020. No one was vaccinate under Trump presidency and less people died than under Biden. Kind of defeats your theory doesn't it? Biden has had three vaccines for 11 months and has more people die than died under Trump. By his own admission shouldn't he resign?

[EihTooms]

Ha, Ha, Ha. That is funny! Tough on crime Gov Newsome. That is the best joke I have heard in a long time. If he wants a so tough on crime how come this is happening every day? Walgreens is losing stores because Newsome is tough on crime. This is a joke but the looting is a serious problem. You can't spin it different.

Yes, Tough On Crime Newsom passed a law that prosecutors can charge every member of an organized smash-and-grab robbery, which is not the crime of "looting" BTW, with a felony even if all they got away with was a candy bar. That is known as deterring a crime from being committed in the first place.

As far as stopping smash-and-grab robberies in process, which are not only happening in California, is your brilliant idea to accomplish that to line the streets with SWAT Teams blocking windows and doors of every retail store 24/7 on the chance that any one of those stores could be targeted by the sudden arrival of such a team in a car or truck at any moment?

Do you have any idea how much funding and manpower that would require in California and around the country, not to mention the decline in the high quality of life so many Californians enjoy?

California catches, prosecutes and incarcerates plenty. How do you think their prisons got so full?

[EihTooms]

When Biden was campaigning he said Trump did not have a clue on how to handle Covid and he had a plan to end Covid. After millions more have been vaccinated in 2021 and Biden doing nothing no one can figure out what is plan is. The death numbers came out this week and already more people in USA have died in 11 months from Covid than the total for all of 2020. Why are Biden death numbers higher than Trump death numbers?

Yeah, but the vast majority of USA Covid deaths now are Repubs who bought the con Trump was selling all through 2020 that it was a "Democrat Party HOAX!" and "This will go away without a vaccine!" For everyone else Biden's efforts to save millions of American lives have been a resounding success.

If Repubs are so intent upon committing Suicide By Trump's Pandemic Virus and permanently remove themselves from the voter rolls by refusing to get vaxxed, there is nothing Biden can do to stop them. Unless you are suggesting Biden sign an Executive Order requiring every American to get fully vaccinated or be incarcerated.

Is that what you want Biden to do?

[Cali Guy]

When Biden was campaigning he said Trump did not have a clue on how to handle Covid and he had a plan to end Covid. After millions more have been vaccinated in 2021 and Biden doing nothing no one can figure out what is plan is. The death numbers came out this week and already more people in USA have died in 11 months from Covid than the total for all of 2020. Why are Biden death numbers higher than Trump death numbers?

[Cali Guy]

So what you're saying is that you would prefer that California Law Enforcement agencies aggressively pursue sub-$950 shoplifting crimes while letting murder, rape, sexual abuse, bank robbery and other major crimes go unpunished. Because that's what you'll get. All Law Enforcement agencies have always had a limited amount of manpower to pursue crime. You would rather that they pursue minor crimes while letting dangerous crimes go unpunished.

No I am saying California laws and policies make law enforcement almost impossible. Democrat policies are also letting murders and rapists get out of jail sooner. With the defunding of police forces and liberal prosecutors letting criminals walk every day the police have no chance of handling the crime. Some criminals are arrested 2 or 3 times a week and released. Every day in California it is getting worse. It is worse this year than last and 2022 will be even worse. It is becoming dangerous to shop in places like Home Depot and shopping malls. I realize you don't care if it is less safe for our kids but I do.

[MarquisdeSade1]

It was different 8 years ago. 8 years ago democrats were not defunding the police. 8 years ago VP Harris was prosecuting criminals not bailing them out of jail. 8 years ago the democrat party on California were democrats not socialists. 8 years ago schools weren't teaching critical race theory. By the way what were the Republican policies that caused the Great Republican crash that you keep talking about that wiped out millions of jobs. I can't seem to find that in past history. What year was that?

During the campaign!

When the GOP takes back the house and Senate next year they should impeach her for that.

[Cali Guy]

He also continues to refer to organized retail theft, as in the smash-and-grab robberies taking place in big cities around the country, as "looting" in California. They are not "looting" in the legal sense in California:

https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/penal-code/463/

Those smash-and-grab robberies have nothing to do with a state of emergency. They are organized retail theft crimes taking place in broad daylight in many cases and having nothing to do with otherwise ordinary law-abiding citizens seizing upon the opportunity to steal goods during a state of emergency.

And, BTW, Tough On Crime Democratic California Governor Gavin Newsom passed a law allowing prosecutors to charge it as a felony regardless of the dollar amount, as is also stated in your link:

Ha, Ha, Ha. That is funny! Tough on crime Gov Newsome. That is the best joke I have heard in a long time. If he wants a so tough on crime how come this is happening every day? Walgreens is losing stores because Newsome is tough on crime. This is a joke but the looting is a serious problem. You can't spin it different.

[PVMonger]

It is a crime but the police don't handle any crime in CA under $1000 and they are not arrested or charged with a crime. If it is over $1000 and they are charged they are released immediately under CA bail laws. So in fact it is a crime that goes unpunished therefore continuing daily. Try telling the stores that are getting robbed daily that people are being arrested and are in jail. Camera footage shows same groups robbing same stores daily. I am sure you support this.

So what you're saying is that you would prefer that California Law Enforcement agencies aggressively pursue sub-$950 shoplifting crimes while letting murder, rape, sexual abuse, bank robbery and other major crimes go unpunished. Because that's what you'll get. All Law Enforcement agencies have always had a limited amount of manpower to pursue crime. You would rather that they pursue minor crimes while letting dangerous crimes go unpunished.

[Xpartan]

It is a crime but the police don't handle any crime in CA under $1000 and they are not arrested or charged with a crime. If it is over $1000 and they are charged they are released immediately under CA bail laws.

Well, time to stand corrected again. Because your revised claim is still a chicanery.

Proposition 47 did not end prosecution of thefts under $950 in California.

CLAIM: Under Proposition 47 in California thefts under $950 will not be prosecuted.

AP ASSESSMENT: False. Proposition 47 was passed in California in 2014 and reclassified felony theft offenses as misdemeanors. It did not allow shoplifting and petty theft to go unprosecuted.

THE FACTS: The false claim about the proposition circulated on social media with a video showing two individuals walking out of a T.J. Maxx in Granada Hills, California, with duffle bags filled with merchandise and their arms filled with clothing on hangers. No one attempted to stop the pair as they walked out of the store and through the parking lot.

The scene was captured on video by another person in the store and circulated widely on news media.

Adam Carolla, a comedian who hosts a podcast, posted the video to Facebook along with a false comment about Proposition 47.

Thanks to Prop 47 thefts under $950 will not be prosecuted, Carolla commented on the post. So cops will not bother showing up. Just a reminder that you get what you voted for, California!

But the post is incorrect. The 2014 proposition modified, but did not eliminate, sentencing for many nonviolent property and drug crimes.

According to Alex Bastian, special advisor to Los Angeles District Attorney George Gascn who co-authored Prop 47, most shoplifting was already prosecuted as a misdemeanor anyway.

What Prop 47 did is increase the dollar amount by which theft can be prosecuted as a felony from $400 to $950 to adjust for inflation and cost of living, Bastian said. But most shoplifting cases are under $400 dollars to begin with, so before Prop 47 and after Prop 47, there isnt any difference.

Proposition 47 was enacted to comply with a 2011 California Supreme Court order, which upheld that Californias overcrowded prisons violated incarcerated individuals Eighth Amendment rights against cruel and unusual punishment.

In 2011, our prisons were bursting at the seams, and California was ranked either first or second behind Texas as having the highest per capita incarceration rate of any state in the country, Kubrin said. It was so bad that the Supreme Court stepped in and told us we needed to reduce our prison population by 33,000 individuals.

So the goal of Prop 47 was to limit our prison population, to reduce the number of people that we send to state prisons, said Kubrin. Prop 47 has achieved that goal while not causing crime rates to go up.

So are you lying are ill-informed? Because it's either one or another, no third choice here.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-160551360299

[Paulie97]

Here he at length speaks out against popular Republican lies and conspiracy theories.

https://www.cnn.com/audio/podcasts/a...b-ade70152540b

[EihTooms]

You keep lying.

You have brought up the following falsehood several times "It is not a crime to steal under $1000 in a store". This is pure, unadulterated BS. Try reading the following because there aren't many bigly words in it so you should be able to understand. https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-160551360299.

He also continues to refer to organized retail theft, as in the smash-and-grab robberies taking place in big cities around the country, as "looting" in California. They are not "looting" in the legal sense in California:

https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/penal-code/463/

Penal Code 463 PC - California's "looting" laws. In Penal Code 463 PC, California law defines the crime of looting as taking advantage of a state of emergency to commit burglary, grand theft or petty theft. Looting can be charged as a misdemeanor or a felony and is punishable by up to 3 years in jail.

Those smash-and-grab robberies have nothing to do with a state of emergency. They are organized retail theft crimes taking place in broad daylight in many cases and having nothing to do with otherwise ordinary law-abiding citizens seizing upon the opportunity to steal goods during a state of emergency.

And, BTW, Tough On Crime Democratic California Governor Gavin Newsom passed a law allowing prosecutors to charge it as a felony regardless of the dollar amount, as is also stated in your link:

Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a law Wednesday aimed at curbing organized retail theft, according to Associated Press reporting. The law allows prosecutors to seek to charge the offense as either a misdemeanor or a felony.