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05-18-20 10:30 #1026
Posts: 52Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
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05-18-20 07:51 #1025
Posts: 812You Democrats have had 4 years to prepare for November and the best you can come up with is an old pervert with dementia that lies much worse than Trump. You better get used to it or you could always move to a country more accommodating to your needs, like Somalia.
Originally Posted by ScatManDoo [View Original Post]
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05-18-20 05:48 #1024
Posts: 407Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
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05-18-20 04:46 #1023
Posts: 2344More February 2020 idiotic quotes from the con man in the White House
"We pretty much shut it down coming in from China. " Trump, in an interview with Fox News' Sean Hannity, when asked how concerned he was about the coronavirus on February 2nd.
"Looks like by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away. I hope that's true. But we're doing great in our country. China, I spoke with President Xi, and they're working very, very hard. And I think it's going to all work out fine. " Trump, at a campaign rally in Manchester, and. H. On February 10th.
"In our country, we only have, basically, 12 cases and most of those people are recovering and some cases fully recovered. So it's actually less." Trump, in an interview with Geraldo Rivera the very next day on February 11th.
"The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!" -- said a clueless Donald Trump on February 24th.
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05-18-20 04:14 #1022
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by Crypton [View Original Post]
Then read the other threads and don't read this one.
It
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05-18-20 04:00 #1021
Posts: 741Why?
I am sorry. But this is the worst idea ever for a forum on a mongering site. I come here to get away from "American Politics" and enjoy, albeit vicariously, other peoples adventures in this time of containment. Read the first page. Carry on! .
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05-17-20 22:00 #1020
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
I think I agree with you that the key facts you are asserting is the best test to see how the Donald fucked things up royally.
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05-17-20 15:57 #1019
Posts: 2344Which One?
Which one of these is Obamagate? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V9cNKygNEI.
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05-17-20 13:06 #1018
Posts: 1604Originally Posted by ScatManDoo [View Original Post]
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05-16-20 20:03 #1017
Posts: 2344More January & early February quotes from our commanding liar in chief
Originally Posted by ScatManDoo [View Original Post]
"We only have five people. Hopefully, everything's going to be great. They have somewhat of a problem, but hopefully, it's all going to be great. But we're working with China, just so you know, and other countries very, very closely. So it doesn't get out of hand. But it's, you know, it's something that we have to be very, very careful with, right? We have to be very careful. " Trump, at a campaign rally in Des Moines, Iowa on Januay 30th.
"We pretty much shut it down coming in from China. " Trump, in an interview with Fox News' Sean Hannity, when asked how concerned he was about the coronavirus on February 2nd.
"We are coordinating with the Chinese government and working closely together on the coronavirus outbreak in China. My administration will take all necessary steps to safeguard our citizens from this threat. " Trump, in his State of the Union address on February 4th.
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05-15-20 13:41 #1016
Posts: 2344January 2020 baboon talk
Jan. 22: "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It's going to be just fine. " Trump in a CNBC interview.
Jan. 30: "We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment five and those people are all recuperating successfully. But we're working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it's going to have a very good ending for us. That I can assure you." Trump in a speech in Michigan.
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04-01-20 19:51 #1015
Posts: 5430Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
I've noticed something locally. About 4 weeks ago, when the local Fox affiliate started posting daily Coronavirus stories on their Facebook page, almost all the comments followed the public statements made by President Trump. It was nothing to worry about, it was all under control, it's not as bad as the flu, it was all blown out of proportion by the media, it was an orchestrated liberal attack on the President, President Trump is doing a great job and is the best President ever. My comments were along the lines of "it's going to get bad. We need to be taking this seriously."
Now the comments have changed, except they still parrot whatever public statements Trump makes. When Trump suggested opening everything up by Easter, that was a great idea, best president ever. When Trump decided to extend the shutdown until April 30, great idea, best president ever. When Trump suggested NYC nurses are stealing masks, it was "they're all thieves, lock them up."
I don't care for Trump. Developed a strong dislike for him way back in '83, and nothing I've seen since has convinced me he's a great guy, great businessman or great leader. I have felt from the beginning that his only firm policy is to pander to his base. Nobody seems to want to discuss it. They just toss out things like "Trump Derangement Syndrome", "Libtard (or Dumbocrat)" and "but what about her emails."
I don't want to see him fail. Every president, regardless of my personal feelings, I want to see succeed. Every president I hope is the best president ever. Every president, no matter how much I may like or dislike them, makes mistakes. The mistakes are less important than how they deal with the mistakes. And with Trump he doesn't deal with mistakes. He just rewrites history. "It's just one person coming in from China" becomes "I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic."
Personal growth requires admitting your mistakes and learning from them. Changing your story every day doesn't help anyone. It demonstrates a greater concern for what we used to call CYA, cover your ass, than fixing the problem.
So, along with Trump Derangement Syndrome, let's throw in Trump Delusion Sickness. Yes, I know acronyms should be unique, but you already fucked that up because TDS stands for Total Dissolved Solids. Besides it works. Anyone calling people out for one TDS is showing signs of the other TDS.
Time will tell us whether or not you're right. I'll continue to hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
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04-01-20 16:51 #1014
Posts: 279No longer enamoured over Trump.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
I meet another foreigner a few weeks ago. We had a friendly discussion agreeing on most things. When I mentioned I was a Trump loyalist, he started shaking like he was having a seizure and refused to talk to me any more. TDS is real, required anti-psychotic medication. Same for the Corona virus psychosis.
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04-01-20 13:38 #1013
Posts: 689Originally Posted by NattyBumpo [View Original Post]
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04-01-20 13:30 #1012
Posts: 3160Originally Posted by ChuchoLoco [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Knowledge [View Original Post]
But that was nothing, Trump derangement syndrome is at a whole other level. When you talk to people with TDS like you two, anything less than Trump is worse than Hitler and YOU get criticized.
And this is why Trump keeps beating Democrats again and again because when you make a guy who is not that bad out to be soooo evil if he is not that evil, you look like fools. Trump calls Joe Biden Sleepy Joe, and Biden obliges him by taking a nap during a crisis that has killed more people than 9-11. THIS is the alternative? So Trump's approval ratings hit record highs even when he and his administration have made so many errors.
The irony about this virus and what the Democrats have done is that they have portrayed Trump as stupid not listening to his experts and blamed him for all the deaths that have occurred. Well, if you are going to give him the blame then you have to give him the credit when things are not that bad. IMO the two medical experts came out and said that there are going to be between 100,000 and 200,000 dead for two reasons: one is to get people to stay strong on the isolation. That is the good. The second is to come up with a number high enough that Trump can brag about if that death total is not reached. That is the bad/political. But with the latest data, no way in hell we are getting to that number.
Thing is that if you follow not the total cases but the new cases, a pattern emerges. This virus has a predictable course: an explosion in new cases, a plateau, and then an incredibly rapid decline in new cases. That has been the case in the Asian countries that have peaked and on the Diamond Princess cruise ship.
Within a two and a half week period, the USA went from a few hundred cases to 20,000 or so new cases every day but in the last five days, we have seen the plateau about 20,000 or so new cases per day. That rapid rise up is not happening anymore. In the last few days, the ventilator talk has been walked back. In the last week, the flattening the curve talk has also been walked by, and you know why? Because the curve HAS flattened.
Here I was being objective about what Trump has done right and wrong. Maybe it was the move to isolation that causes this pattern with the virus, but it might not be. No one knows, but you people with TDS have put all this on Trump. You TDS people have said whatever happens with the virus, it is all Trump's fault.
Well, be careful what you wish for because if this virus turns as quickly as it has in other countries, Trump is going to be take credit for saving hundreds of thousands of lives with his bold moves, and the irony is that the virus taking that turn might not have had shit to do with what the Trump administration did.