American Politics

[Paulie97]

'MAGA Republicans are seething with rage because Biden hit his target'.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ans-democracy/

[Canada]

You are the only business that ever exported product from China and got the Chinese to lower their prices after their currency devaluation. The only one. Every other company, from Whirlpool to Ford to Tyson to 3 M to Harley-Davidson passed at least some of the increased cost onto consumers. But not your supposed company. You were the only company to beat the Chinese while the rest of these billion-dollar companies had import specialists and lawyers that were as stupid as the ones Donnie the Dumbass hires.

Congratulations! You need to sell your expertise to every billion-dollar company in the world who was not able to do that. You would make a fortune.

On the other hand, you could show us the actual contracts that prove your point.

Just thank Trump. He is the one who put the pressure on the Chinese government. Yes our company along with every company you mentioned in your post benefited from the currency devaluation. Yes we could have raised our prices to our customers like many companies did but we were making a fair margin and wanted to keep our market share. You obviously did not benefit because you did not have a company doing this business. You only worked for the company. And yes I did sell out to a billion dollar company and semi retired because I do not want to work for a billion dollar company. So I started another company and 2 years later sold out again to another billion dollar company and semi retired again. But thanks to Biden driving oil prices and gas prices to record highs I started another business and will end up selling it to another billion dollar company. You in the other hand are still probably waiting on the next Biden handout. Big difference.

[JustTK]

High risk of myocarditis in males <40 from Moderna vaxs. Now tje truth is out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGILgxMx5CY

It was obvioously deliberately hidden for as long as they could. Why? Bcos of the corporate capture of the state regulatory body (CDC) by the industry it is sposed to regulate (Big Pharma).

And how is reponsible for allowing this dangerous corrution, the Reps? The Dems? The truth is BOTH sides. Vote Neithersideism, bcos you need CHANGE.

[PVMonger]

Yeah, you just lost the argument with that.

And that being illegal was what was trending on the right wing media, and it is correct. It is illegal to take that photo but you think the government can never do anything illegal.

Say what? LOL. That issue is not before the court now dummy.

You mean the fraud that started with the Hiliary campaign which the FBI knew was a fraud in mid 2016 and yet Comey continued to investigate. Yeah, making a bogus criminal case against your boss is a good way to get fired.

Why the quotes? That is weak.

You know why. That is weaker still. There should be no question of his status to look at the documents. Why is that an issue? It is better to err on the side of caution.

I don't? Says who?

There was no way the courts were going to get involved in a presidential election back then or in the future but, but you dumb Dems think they are going to get involved now on your side. The courts want nothing to do with this case and will toss it, and Garland knows it..

I don't care what might have been trending on rightwingnut media. The photo that was taken was not of classified information. I realize that you don't understand the difference between classified information and cover sheets but I can't make it any simpler for you. https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...id-1234584879/ here's the photo. Please tell be exactly where in the photo it shows "classified information'. Not "classified cover sheets" but actual classified information.

You didn't quote case law or any other thing. You provided no sources. And, besides, all of those documents should have been turned over to NARA when Donnie the Dumbass left the WH. Period. I don't care what you think. That is the law.

You were the one who brought up "the warrant". That means you are dumber than Donnie the Dumbass' dumb lawyers.

Sheesh. https://www.alabar.org/office-of-gen...nions/2009-01/.

Nobody has said that Donnie the Dumbass had the "status" to look at the documents. But not after he left the WH, Those documents did not belong to him. Period. Talk about being foolish. https://www.npr.org/2022/08/13/11172...-law-watergate and https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...id-1234584879/ and hundreds of other sources.

[Spidy]

Thats because I am not a "wacko left dem douche". I am a Marxist terrorist. Haha. Kiddin.

There's a bit of truth to every joke, or at least so the saying goes.

I am an anarchist, not a communist. I beleive in transnationalism. ... Imagine, if you will, the USA as a template for the world. Anyone can go and live or work anywhere they like. Freedom of movement, no borders. Now imagine that you remove the federal government and you decentralise the decision making back to county level, or even lower. That's pretty much what I want for the entire world.

Sounds pretty "wacko left dem douche", to me. (...kkkk!)

... Neither side is capable of accepting that their own party represents the wealthy only. Both sides instead stick to the tried and tested method of ignoring their own mistakes and hurling custard pies at the opposition. ...

This is the result of decades of passing the baton between one group of corrupt wealthy benefactors to another. And supporters of both sides just continue to blame the other. Well, I guess you get what you deserve.

Fair arguments. But for those that want to sit on the fence and be agnostic, must also equally share the blame, for actively doing nothing.

After all, "Evil exists when good men do nothing". Enter Evil Agent Orange, stage-right!

Look, much like other established democratic countries, that have a three (3) or four (4) political parties and take less money influencing politics, would definitely be more ideal towards a more democratic US. Unfortunately, QAnon/Repubs, are moving the US towards a fascist dictatorship.

Finally, let me ask you a question:

Q. If you absolutely had to choose between Dems or Repubs, with "gun/pistol to your head" (figuratively speaking of course), which of the two (2) parties do you honestly think will get you closer to your "promised land" or utopian unfettered borderless world?

[JustTK]

The reason Chris and the Marquis love you is because they know your False Equivalency Bothsiderism only serves to help their beloved USA Economy-destroying Repubs get elected.

I have no idea what MDS writes. Its like trying to decipher The Riddler. He doesn't seem tloo be able to put a single coherent sentence together.

You really might as well stand in line behind the most rabid America-hating QAnon loons and match their Repub votes all down the ballot for every election.

You have taken that upon urself by supporting the status quo. "I can't support change, bcos it will never happen" BS.

Bothsiderism. No, I am Neithersiderism.

[JustTK]

Will the Fauci supporters ever admit that he is a pathological liar?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj8qrDGmlZQ

If you cannot admit he lies, you need to look urself in the mirror.

[PVMonger]

Obviously you are not a businessman that did business with China. At least not on the financial side. I did over $200 million dollars with China over 10 years importing into USA, Canada and Kazakhstan. Paid millions on anti dumping tariffs but still charged our customers a lower price because China devalued their currency. The factories and workers get paid in RMB. When we purchased $1,000,000 RMB of product before devalation we paid $158,478 USD. After devaluing their currency we paid $140,845 USD. We paid the 10% so our total cost was $154,930 which allowed us to sell to our customers at the same price we had before the tariffs. But under Trump tarriffs the USA government collected billions, China factories got billions less. With the trade war farmers lost business. Trump just made sure that the farmers were not hurt and gave them a small percentage of what he collected.

You obviously need lessons from somebody because you never learned anything from your supposed business.

You are the only business that ever exported product from China and got the Chinese to lower their prices after their currency devaluation. The only one. Every other company, from Whirlpool to Ford to Tyson to 3 M to Harley-Davidson passed at least some of the increased cost onto consumers. But not your supposed company. You were the only company to beat the Chinese while the rest of these billion-dollar companies had import specialists and lawyers that were as stupid as the ones Donnie the Dumbass hires.

Congratulations! You need to sell your expertise to every billion-dollar company in the world who was not able to do that. You would make a fortune.

On the other hand, you could show us the actual contracts that prove your point.

[Elvis 2008]

You seem to imply that you have a JD because you try to make all sorts of legal arguments. Where did you get the JD anyway? TRUMP University?

Yeah, you just lost the argument with that.

Photos? Yeah, the FBI and the DOJ don't know the law but you do? Serouusly? That's what you want us to believe? There was no photo of classified information. There was a photo of cover sheets.

And that being illegal was what was trending on the right wing media, and it is correct. It is illegal to take that photo but you think the government can never do anything illegal.

Donnie the Dumbass' team of minimum-wage legal idiots never mentioned "the warrant" in their filing on August 31. Not once. Evidently, these geniuses didn't think the warrant was a big deal.

Say what? LOL. That issue is not before the court now dummy.

FYI, Donnie the Dumbass admitted that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation.

You mean the fraud that started with the Hiliary campaign which the FBI knew was a fraud in mid 2016 and yet Comey continued to investigate. Yeah, making a bogus criminal case against your boss is a good way to get fired.

Speaking of a "special master"

Why the quotes? That is weak.

why did his team of "we'll work for free because we know he'll stiff us" crackpot legal geniuses specify in their filing yesterday that the "special master" needed to have the appropriate high security clearance?

You know why. That is weaker still. There should be no question of his status to look at the documents. Why is that an issue? It is better to err on the side of caution.

See, one of the many things that you don't understand is that lawyers who lie in court are subject to severe penalties.

I don't? Says who?

That's why none of the 60+ election lawsuits filed by Donnie the Dumbass' lawyers alleged election fraud.

There was no way the courts were going to get involved in a presidential election back then or in the future but, but you dumb Dems think they are going to get involved now on your side. The courts want nothing to do with this case and will toss it, and Garland knows it.

What good is your supposed law degree if you can't even understand a basic legal ethics question such as that? Something that's taught in the first week of law school. (My brother is a lawyer and he said that that subject is covered very early in law school).

Ethics and lawyers? LOL. That is a good one. FWIW, judges are some of the best pols going. You have a way too high opinion of the judicial system.

Even members of Donnie the Dumbass' own so-called administration have said that his blanket declassification order was "bullshit".

Who cares? I quoted the law to you and the case the law was based on. What you do not get is the law is based on a Supreme Court precedent, and they can say what Trump did was legal, and it is case closed, and there is not a fucking thing you can do about it. But the judges have to be given the chance to rule, and SCOTUS has to wait for the cases to go through the lower courts.

You keep responding with your weak ass arguments when the truth is you have no idea about the fucking process. You are embarrassing yourself. You usually represent the Democratic side well PVM but not this time. You have no clue what you are talking about.

[EihTooms]

What Democrats' Win In Alaska Tells Us About November.
Sept. 1, 2022

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...bout-november/

For the second time in as many weeks, Democrats have won a competitive special election. And by the numbers, this win was even more impressive than last weeks victory in New Yorks 19th District.
....
Impressively, Peltola managed to prevail despite Alaska being a fairly red state. According to FiveThirtyEights partisan lean metric, Alaska is 15 percentage points redder than the nation as a whole. That means going by the results in the final round, Peltolas 3-point victory was an 18-point overperformance for Democrats. By contrast, last week, Democrat Pat Ryan won New Yorks 19th District, an R+4 seat, by 2 points just a 6-point overperformance.

Yeah, I said early on to be mindful that these polls are probably over-sampling Repubs.

Still, the two things and the ONLY things Repubs have going for them to "win" some Congressional seats this mid-term is the long tradition of the out Party in the White House typically doing so in the first mid-term of a presidency anyway and the built-in election-rigging element of extreme gerrymandering favoring Repubs combined with the Repubs' nation-wide packing of state and local ballot-collecting and vote-counting positions with their looniest American democracy-hating QAnon Repubs.

Both of which are critical to swaying the outcome vs the polling and might indeed allow Repubs to prevail.

Otherwise, Repubs have absolutely nothing on their side to justify earning so much as a single free and fair vote and Dems have everything on their side to justify getting 100% of the free and fair votes.

To recap on the poll issue:

Even as actual election results have strongly suggested most polls are way over-sampling Repubs, as of this writing, the Consensus Poll of Polls on the demonstrably winger-leaning RealClearPolitics site and the more highly regarded FiveThirtyEight site show Biden with a higher Job Approval and Favorability Rating than any other Party leader in Congress.

It is higher than either House of Congress.

It is higher than anyone or any entity that can do anything to continue cleaning up the horrific "mess" Trump and his classic Repub policies and stewardship left behind.

It is higher than the immediate former guy had at this point in his so-called presidency and he beats the former guy and 2024 Repub front-runner nominee soundly in a hypothetical head-to-head poll question.

The Dems are also now leading and on the rise in voter preference to control Congress on both sites, following a dramatic plunge for Repubs on that advantage.

And that is before a couple of recent major polls with decidedly good news for Dems (and therefore for America) have been factored into the consensus, before the reaction to Biden's brilliant Soul of America speech has settled in and before most voters have stopped to take a good hard look at the America-hating loons that Trump endorsed into a nomination in many races.

[ScatManDoo]

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[EihTooms]

Thats because I am not a "wacko left dem douche". I am a Marxist terrorist. Haha. Kiddin. I am an anarchist, not a communist. I beleive in transnationalism. If you want some homework, you should look into it. You might find its not so "nuts" after all. - Imagine, if you will, the USA as a template for the world. Anyone can go and live or work anywhere they like. Freedom of movement, no borders. Now imagine that you remove the federal government and you decentralise the decision making back to county level, or even lower. That's pretty much what I want for the entire world.

Absolutely correct. The trouble is, both sides of the political spectrum in the USA are equally guilty of that. Neither side is capable of accepting that their own party represents the wealthy only. Both sides instead stick to the tried and tested method of ignoring their own mistakes and hurling custard pies at the opposition.

Don't you see where that appraoch gets you? I will tell you where. Right here, in this mess that the USA has landed. This is the result of decades of passing the baton between one group of corrupt wealthy benefactors to another. And supporters of both sides just continue to blame the other. Well, I guess you get what you deserve.

The reason Chris and the Marquis love you is because they know your False Equivalency Bothsiderism only serves to help their beloved USA Economy-destroying Repubs get elected.

Only one Party and POTUSes pass legislation that, among other beneficial results, raise or establish reasonable minimum tax rates on the "wealthy only" in order to pay for the benefits and services the vast majority of Americans want their tax money to pay for and provide. That would be the Democratic Party.

Hence, Dems have produced every major economic boom time and massive private sector jobs creation of the past 100 years or so and none of the Great Recessions and Great Crashes.

Only one Party has systematically reduce and eliminate taxes for the "wealthy only" in order to, among other disastrous results, 'starve the beast' of the vast majority getting what they want their tax money to pay for and provide. That would be the Republican Party.

Hence, Repubs have produced every Great Recession, Great Crash and massive private sector job destruction of the past 100 years or so and none of the boom times and massive private sector job creation.

Only one Party wants more Americans to vote and makes it easier for them to do so while only one Party wants fewer Americans to vote and makes it harder for them to do so.

Do I even need to cite which one is which?

Your pro Repub False Equivalency and Bothsiderism helps immeasurably to produce the very "mess" you are presumably referring to. You really might as well stand in line behind the most rabid America-hating QAnon loons and match their Repub votes all down the ballot for every election.

[PVMonger]

I told you that you had to have threats of the documents being destroyed to justify a warrant. Documents were moved around? Big fucking deal. A warrant is a massive and unjustified overreaction to that.

LOL. The FBI stepped on its dick again. Taking photos of classified information (as the FBI just did) is illegal. As Trump said, it is good thing he declassified them or whomever took that photo belongs in jail.

You are the moron because you still do not get it. Did anyone dispute there were documents marked as classified? No one I know did, so what is the point of showing the photo? Here is a hint. The FBI is getting desperate.

Why did the FBI and DOJ react like this? Because Trump wanted a "special master" to look at the documents. A "special master" is a an objective third party like a former judge who will review the documents and the FBI and DOJ are vehemently opposed to an independent third party looking at them. Gee, I wonder why.

Your Yahoo article was practically written by the FBI, and this is so stupid I cannot believe you buy it. "Even if Trump did, in fact, declassify all of the documents recovered from Mar-a-Lago, it might not make a difference. Legal experts have pointed out that none of the criminal provisions listed in the FBI's search warrant as the basis of their investigation have anything to do with whether or not the materials in question were classified. ".

So they possibly illegally take a photo of classified information and now say that documents being classified does not matter? LOL. That is the brilliant FBI for you.

Are you really that dumb? How many times has Trump gone to war with the FBI, and you dumb Dems have taken the FBI's side and lost? Trump said the FBI spied on him during his campaign. You dumb Dems say there was no way that happen. Yeah, it was true. He fires Comey for fucking with his administration. You guys declare that an outrage then Comey admits he was doing just that. Hell, Comey even leaked a document (funny like Hiliary he was not prosecuted either. Gee why was that?

This latest outrage was because the FBI does not want anyone seeing those documents. Obviously, you missed that part. And hell yeah, if the documents have been declassified and belong to us, I sure as hell want to see them and what all this fuss is about. Now the content of the documents will be known to someone else.

You must be in favor of the National Archives and FBI keeping documents where the FBI fucked up from public eyes. Yeah, you government loving Democratic morons think our government never fucks up. That is why having amnesia in part of being a Dem.

And the two latest Garland initiatives. We are going to wait until after the mid terms to decide on criminal activity. HA HA HA HA HA HA! Yeah, this was not a political move but we are waiting until after the midterm elections before doing anything. Remember Garland is not on SCOTUS due to Trump, no conflict there.

And the other is FBI agents can no longer go to political functions. This is so Garland. We want to try to not appear to be political even though everyone knows we are.

I told you the purpose of this was never to prosecute Trump but get the documents because they make the FBI look like shit and now someone is going to get to see what they are. You are just so stupidly anti-Trump you do not see it.

What you do not get is that federal law is so broad that you can nail anyone for anything, and that is why it is super important to have an objective and consistent law enforcement which we do not have.

You are so stupid you probably buy the line that DOJ is looking into Hunter Biden and waiting to make its case. What a crock. Hunter incriminates himself on his own fucking laptop. There is no "making the case". Just like sitting on the Trump case for political purposes, the DOJ is doing the same damned thing with Hunter.

The BS flowing from you gets deeper and deeper by the minute. There is, literally, nothing in this rant that is even remotely true. Hell, there isn't anything here that Qanon would consider true.

You seem to imply that you have a JD because you try to make all sorts of legal arguments. Where did you get the JD anyway? TRUMP University?

Photos? Yeah, the FBI and the DOJ don't know the law but you do? Serouusly? That's what you want us to believe? There was no photo of classified information. There was a photo of cover sheets. Only an idiot or a moron would look at the photo and say that it was of classified information. Oh, wait. Donnie the Dumbass said that.

Donnie the Dumbass' team of minimum-wage legal idiots never mentioned "the warrant" in their filing on August 31. Not once. Evidently, these geniuses didn't think the warrant was a big deal. But you, with your tRUMP you JD or LLM or SJD or MLS or MDR degree are soooooo much smarter than them. So I don't know who is dumber. Maybe you ought to lend your legal expertise to Donnie's team of idiots.

FYI, Donnie the Dumbass admitted that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...ublican-voters.

Speaking of a "special master", didn't Donnie the Dumbass say that he declassified all of the documents? Didn't you say that too? And since Donnie the Dumbass said that, why did his team of "we'll work for free because we know he'll stiff us" crackpot legal geniuses specify in their filing yesterday that the "special master" needed to have the appropriate high security clearance? One needs no security clearance to view unclassified documents. Oops.

See, one of the many things that you don't understand is that lawyers who lie in court are subject to severe penalties. That's why none of the 60+ election lawsuits filed by Donnie the Dumbass' lawyers alleged election fraud. That's why Donnie the Dumbass' lawyers didn't say that the documents were declassified. Because you need to show proof to the judge when you file that type of paperwork with the court. Donnie the Dumbass' lawyers couldn't provide election fraud proof and they can't provide declassification proof. They may be working for minimum wage but they aren't stupid. (Well, they are but they work cheap) What good is your supposed law degree if you can't even understand a basic legal ethics question such as that? Something that's taught in the first week of law school. (My brother is a lawyer and he said that that subject is covered very early in law school).

So, the documents in question have not been declassified. Even members of Donnie the Dumbass' own so-called administration have said that his blanket declassification order was "bullshit". Since the documents haven't been declassified, nobody can see them unless they have the appropriate security clearance. Donnie's own lawyers even said that the documents haven't been declassified (see above).

And, besides, the documents do not belong to Donnie the Dumbass. How many times does somebody need to say this before you get it through your thick skull. That is the question here. And the overriding one at that. The rest of of your arguments are, as usual, a smokescreen.

Donnie the Dumbass was illegally in possession of classified documents. He, himself, signed into law a bill increasing the penalty for such an act to a felony and five (5) years in prison. He was so stupid that he thought that he'd be able to pin that charge on HRC. Too bad the bill didn't specify 5 years for every document. You probably can't do the math but, at last count, Donnie the Dumbass had illegal possession of more than 230 classified documents after January 20th, 2020.5 * 230 = 1,150 years in prison. Somehow, I don't think he'd come out of that sentence alive. Lucky for him that he didn't sign a bill that sasid that anybody in possession of classified documents should be shot. Remember, he said that about Assange and Snowden. And Donnie the Dumbass is guilty of the same crime that he wanted them shot for. https://news.yahoo.com/trump-likely-...210237403.html.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Thats because I am not a "wacko left dem douche". I am a Marxist terrorist. Haha. Kiddin. I am an anarchist, not a communist. I beleive in transnationalism. If you want some homework, you should look into it. You might find its not so "nuts" after all. - Imagine, if you will, the USA as a template for the world. Anyone can go and live or work anywhere they like. Freedom of movement, no borders. Now imagine that you remove the federal government and you decentralise the decision making back to county level, or even lower. That's pretty much what I want for the entire world.

Absolutely correct. The trouble is, both sides of the political spectrum in the USA are equally guilty of that. Neither side is capable of accepting that their own party represents the wealthy only. Both sides instead stick to the tried and tested method of ignoring their own mistakes and hurling custard pies at the opposition.

Don't you see where that appraoch gets you? I will tell you where. Right here, in this mess that the USA has landed. This is the result of decades of passing the baton between one group of corrupt wealthy benefactors to another. And supporters of both sides just continue to blame the other. Well, I guess you get what you deserve.

Even a broken clock is correct twice a day JK LOL.

This is why I hate both parties equally!!

This is why we need Our Supreme Leader Donald J Trump for life!!

He is the only one that can save humanity!!

Don't you see where that appraoch gets you? I will tell you where. Right here, in this mess that the USA has landed. This is the result of decades of passing the baton between one group of corrupt wealthy benefactors to another. And supporters of both sides just continue to blame the other. Well, I guess you get what you deserve.

[JustTK]

You're a better poster than the standard wacko left dem douches because you don't deny the reality of the terrible problems caused by the nefarious Washington swamp. Unfortunately, your solutions are ridiculous communist bullshit which wouldn't fix anything. But halfway is better than nothing. You aren't a completely lost cause.

Thats because I am not a "wacko left dem douche". I am a Marxist terrorist. Haha. Kiddin. I am an anarchist, not a communist. I beleive in transnationalism. If you want some homework, you should look into it. You might find its not so "nuts" after all. - Imagine, if you will, the USA as a template for the world. Anyone can go and live or work anywhere they like. Freedom of movement, no borders. Now imagine that you remove the federal government and you decentralise the decision making back to county level, or even lower. That's pretty much what I want for the entire world.

Yanukovich was the legitimately elected president. He was not removed via constitutional means but via a violent mob.
... the cognitive dissonance of the fake news-brainwashed wacko left dem douches: you claim Jan 6, in which some unarmed people walked peacefully through open doors, waved in by cops, took some selfies and left, to be an "insurrection" and "attempted coup. The hypocrisy, mendacity and lack of any connection to reality ... is something to behold.

Absolutely correct. The trouble is, both sides of the political spectrum in the USA are equally guilty of that. Neither side is capable of accepting that their own party represents the wealthy only. Both sides instead stick to the tried and tested method of ignoring their own mistakes and hurling custard pies at the opposition.

Don't you see where that appraoch gets you? I will tell you where. Right here, in this mess that the USA has landed. This is the result of decades of passing the baton between one group of corrupt wealthy benefactors to another. And supporters of both sides just continue to blame the other. Well, I guess you get what you deserve.