American Politics

[BbqMushrooms]

The answer is Republicans want an honest election. Democrats don't so they want to bend every rule they can. Pretty simple to understand if you are one of the cheaters.

That's why they banned handing out water bottles to voters in Georgia right? That's why they now ask for a voter ID in Texas right? That's why they gerrymander the hell out of counties to get more seats in the house right? That's why when they voted on Trump's impeachment they blocked witnesses from testifying right? That's why during the presidential elections of 2020 when people were afraid to go the polls due to coronavirus and counties started hosting mail-in voting, Trump posted his boy DeJoy in the White House who attempted to cripple the post office by dismantling mail sorting machines right? That's why Trump was caught on the phone trying to convince Georgia to "find him votes" right? That's why in 2000, Florida mysteriously removed 12,000 black voters from their register right? Because they want fair elections. Ahhh yes, how could I forget?

[GDreams]

The answer is Republicans want an honest election. Democrats don't so they want to bend every rule they can. Pretty simple to understand if you are one of the cheaters.

So why do they need to Gerrymander? Why do they need to disenfranchise blocks of voters that traditionally don't vote for them?

[GDreams]

60% is the norm but in some counties democrats had 110% of their registered voters vote. 2020 proved that the election did not follow the pattern of the last 50 years. 2020 was the only year ever that democrats had more votes in counties than they had registered voters. Seems strange to me too.

More lies. Show which counties by their official tallies had this. Multiple Trump lawsuits alleged that more people voted in electorates than people on the rolls until they were confronted with the actual official tallies and were forced to withdraw the allegations. They had matched the wrong electorates.

[Canada]

Why do you try to put words in my mouth?

First, other countries have a standardized approach to their Federal ID process. Virtually all states require 2 forms of ID to register to vote. Only an idiot would say that showing up with a hunting license and a birth certificate is "good" but showing up with a student ID and a birth certificate is "bad". And my question STILL REMAINS. Why are Republicans so against this? By the way, I never said anything about voting in another country's elections.

Maybe if you spent more time learning and less time bloviating, you'd make fewer ridiculous statements.

The answer is Republicans want an honest election. Democrats don't so they want to bend every rule they can. Pretty simple to understand if you are one of the cheaters.

[Canada]

This is the most insane argument that I have ever heard. Do you realize that only 60 to 70 percent of those eligible to vote actually vote in America? There is even less participation in local elections. Why would a foreigner in the USA risk their right to stay in America performing an act that citizens don't even value themselves? You are arguing that people are irrational. They don't pursue their own self-interest.

60% is the norm but in some counties democrats had 110% of their registered voters vote. 2020 proved that the election did not follow the pattern of the last 50 years. 2020 was the only year ever that democrats had more votes in counties than they had registered voters. Seems strange to me too.

[Vagabundo1]

Very interesting.

Kennedy was the greatest president in the last 100 years.

And why is that? It is because Martin Luther King Sr told them to. Before that 1960 election most were Republican. And why did he tell them to? Because the Republican candidate Nixon would not help get his son out of jail, but the Democratic candidate Kennedy did. If it was not for that small moment in history, the Democratic party would probably not exist today.

[Mr Enternational]

This is in contrast to native-born Blacks who most often describe themselves as moderate Democrats.

And why is that? It is because Martin Luther King Sr told them to. Before that 1960 election most were Republican. And why did he tell them to? Because the Republican candidate Nixon would not help get his son out of jail, but the Democratic candidate Kennedy did. If it was not for that small moment in history, the Democratic party would probably not exist today.

[GeneHickman]

Most immigrants who come to the United States come from traditional, conservative, and extremely religious nations, while nations that are considered secular and progressive, such as European countries, Japan, South Korea and Australia, send few if any immigrants to the USA.

Latin Americans make up the majority of immigrants to the United States. Democrats have been continually surprised that, considering the countless right-wing racist attacks they have endured (including candidate Donald Trump calling Mexicans who sought to come to the United States drug users and rapists), that they do not form a solid Democratic block. They don't. In fact, some 32 percent of Hispanics say their political views are "very conservative" or "conservative." This percentage is about in line with American adults in general.

In Texas, a quarter of Latinos voted for Ted Cruz over Beto O'Rourke in the 2016 USA Senate race. Without that Latino support, Cruz would have lost his senate bid in a landslide.

As for Sub-Saharan African immigrants, they tend to be conservative and extremely religious. Many find Western culture to be hopelessly decadent. Kevin Thomas, professor of African American and African diaspora studies at The University of Texas at Austin, notes that, in terms of political ideology, Black immigrants tend to lean more on the conservative side than the liberal side. This is in contrast to native-born Blacks who most often describe themselves as moderate Democrats.

One self-described moderate Republican Nigerian immigrant sounded like he was channeling your average white Trump voter when he recently told PRI, "Trump's not a politician, and he speaks his mind. Does things the way he believes things should be done. Nigerians prefer strong leaders."

Yet when all his is netted out, immigrants vote probably 3:1 democrat. This country has taken on tens of millions of immigrant voters since Kennedy changed the immigration system. The end result is that the equilibrium has been shifted and we have gone from a right of center country to a left of center country. That will have economic, social and other consequences and they will play out gradually over coming couple of decades. We don't defy gravity here in the USA.

[Golfinho]

Most immigrants who come to the United States come from traditional, conservative, and extremely religious nations, while nations that are considered secular and progressive, such as European countries, Japan, South Korea and Australia, send few if any immigrants to the USA.

Latin Americans make up the majority of immigrants to the United States. Democrats have been continually surprised that, considering the countless right-wing racist attacks they have endured (including candidate Donald Trump calling Mexicans who sought to come to the United States drug users and rapists), that they do not form a solid Democratic block. They don't. In fact, some 32 percent of Hispanics say their political views are "very conservative" or "conservative." This percentage is about in line with American adults in general.

In Texas, a quarter of Latinos voted for Ted Cruz over Beto O'Rourke in the 2016 USA Senate race. Without that Latino support, Cruz would have lost his senate bid in a landslide.

As for Sub-Saharan African immigrants, they tend to be conservative and extremely religious. Many find Western culture to be hopelessly decadent. Kevin Thomas, professor of African American and African diaspora studies at The University of Texas at Austin, notes that, in terms of political ideology, Black immigrants tend to lean more on the conservative side than the liberal side. This is in contrast to native-born Blacks who most often describe themselves as moderate Democrats.

One self-described moderate Republican Nigerian immigrant sounded like he was channeling your average white Trump voter when he recently told PRI, "Trump's not a politician, and he speaks his mind. Does things the way he believes things should be done. Nigerians prefer strong leaders."

[Paulie97]

This is the most insane argument that I have ever heard. Do you realize that only 60 to 70 percent of those eligible to vote actually vote in America? There is even less participation in local elections. Why would a foreigner in the USA risk their right to stay in America performing an act that citizens don't even value themselves? You are arguing that people are irrational. They don't pursue their own self-interest.

That point among others has been made numerous times but only ignored while the same Trumpian talking points are recited over and over. Call this the thread of the ad nauseam.

https://religions.wiki/index.php/Proof_by_assertion

As to the alleged flood of illegal immigrants that turned the election, all of us including the courts are still waiting on the proof. So far all we have is a botched press conference beside an adult bookstore in front of Four Seasons Landscaping, all accentuated by a hair dye fiasco.

[Vagabundo1]

Not the forum to give it real work.

Tacking on a me too requires no effort, but there's a saying "better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than." Well go look it up. Wink.

[Big Boss Man]

Yes most other democracies use a federal ID card but you still have to apply for it the same as a drivers license or passport. Those countries don't just mail one to everyone living in the country. There are thousands of foreigners going to college in USA that get college IDs. You are a typical democrat who wants these illegal votes to count. You need an ID to work in USA, to cash your paycheck in USA, to buy beer in USA, to travel in USA so why is it so terrible to make these same people need an ID to vote. In most countries you can't even stay in a hotel without a passport. Name one country that you yourself could go to and vote in their election.

This is the most insane argument that I have ever heard. Do you realize that only 60 to 70 percent of those eligible to vote actually vote in America? There is even less participation in local elections. Why would a foreigner in the USA risk their right to stay in America performing an act that citizens don't even value themselves? You are arguing that people are irrational. They don't pursue their own self-interest.

[Run Mann]

A lot of us are getting real tired of corporate news entities like Fox News and their evening propagandists, One America News, News Max, extreme right rags like the World Tribune that your pal Canada often references, and all varieties of viral social media "stop the steal" nonsense undermining our democracy with the fanciful racially loaded accusations that every court and reasonable person has rejected. All the same voice, same catch phrases day in and day out. We can add the pseudo patriots / traitors at the Capital, mindless sheep believing every lie Trump tells them while murdering police officers, Covid denialism and anti-vaxxers, and it's pleasing that inside of four years you have been removed from power, WH, Congress, and Senate. I'm truly digging it.

True and one of the main problem with the covid deniers and anti-vaxxers is their blatant disregard for welfare of the soldiers in their cult. These people rail against the vaccine while secretly getting the jab to protect themselves. Such was the case when when Donny and his wife got their shot on the down-low while pretending to be unmoved by Covid. The lastest is top purveyor of fake news and outrage, and covid denier, Tucker Fake News Carlston who refuses to say if he took the vacinne.

I would bet all my Canadian currency that he also took the vaccine but continues to rails against it nightly. Its unattractive to be a hypocrite but when you put your disciples at risk just so you can advance your talking point, it shows how heartless you are. Sadly Tuck, Donnie and crew will continue to put more suckers at risk while they advance their propaganda.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021...accine-skeptic

[PVMonger]

Yes most other democracies use a federal ID card but you still have to apply for it the same as a drivers license or passport. Those countries don't just mail one to everyone living in the country. There are thousands of foreigners going to college in USA that get college IDs. You are a typical democrat who wants these illegal votes to count. You need an ID to work in USA, to cash your paycheck in USA, to buy beer in USA, to travel in USA so why is it so terrible to make these same people need an ID to vote. In most countries you can't even stay in a hotel without a passport. Name one country that you yourself could go to and vote in their election.

Why do you try to put words in my mouth?

First, other countries have a standardized approach to their Federal ID process. Virtually all states require 2 forms of ID to register to vote. Only an idiot would say that showing up with a hunting license and a birth certificate is "good" but showing up with a student ID and a birth certificate is "bad". And my question STILL REMAINS. Why are Republicans so against this? By the way, I never said anything about voting in another country's elections.

Maybe if you spent more time learning and less time bloviating, you'd make fewer ridiculous statements.

[PVMonger]

FOX news never said it was a hoax. Why do you lie on this site because it is easily checked.

Really? Faux "News" never said it was a hoax? "This scaring the living hell out of people — I see it, again, as like, let's bludgeon Trump with this new hoax," Hannity said during his March 9 broadcast ". Quotation from https://www.vox.com/2020/3/20/211867...rage-fox-news..

Why do you lie on this site because it is easily checked?