American Politics

[EihTooms]

Silly Republicans. If you're going to try to lock up Tony Soprano, do you go after Meadow and A. J. Soprano? Would you go after the kids of mob bosses? Of course not. You go after the capos and the lieutenants. The made men. In Biden's case, that's people like Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries and Merrick Garland. We're not literally talking "family" here.

The silly Republicans are hyper-focused on a tree and totally missing the forest. Yes, the Biden Family Criminal Syndicate is much, much bigger than the actual Biden family. The sums of money we're talking about are 100,000X greater than the measly amount Hunter received for attempted influence peddling.

Last week on Morning Joe (MSNBC), Steve Rattner, one of the enablers of the Syndicate, approvingly said Biden planned to steal an additional $5.5 trillion from American citizens and businesses over the next 10 years through higher taxes.

Now the EPA is planning to require natural gas and coal fired power plants to eliminate nearly all their carbon dioxide emissions in just a little over a decade. That may involve stealing another trillion from shareholders in the utility companies and the gas and coal companies who will end up with stranded assets. Or from consumers who will pay much higher prices for electricity when the utilities pass through the cost of carbon sequestration to them.

Then there are the new proposed rules from the EPA, that will ensure 67% of new passenger cars and 25% of heavy trucks sold in the USA are all-electric by 2032. That's going to cost a bundle.

And how about Biden's attempt to shut down oil and gas drilling on federal lands and federal offshore leases? If he'd been successful in that, he would have stranded hundreds of billions in assets.

And as a part of this enterprise in theft, Joe Biden, the Godfather (aka "the Don", aka "The Big Guy") and other Democratic Politicians will hand out a ton of money to their contributors, green energy entrepreneurs and the like. They got a good start with the ridiculously-named "Inflation Reduction Act." A Wall Street Journal editorial estimates the green handouts and subsidies in the Inflation Reduction Act will cost over $1 trillion.

I'm sure there are other examples. I know a bit about taxes and energy so am familiar with the ones described above. However, just as the mafia engages in many endeavors, like extortion, drugs, gambling, and theft, so too the Democratic Party crime syndicate must be stealing in other ways than just through taxation and energy.

This is not a slam on you and other esteemed board members who are Democratic Party sympathizers. You are simply mistaken, just like the innocents in Sinaloa who idolized El Chapo or the people in Medellin who loved Pablo Escobar. Hopefully with time you will learn.

Damn. Repubs must be dumb as fuck if they can't uncover, reveal, charge, indict and convict "the Don", "the Big Guy" Joe Biden on all those terrible crimes you cited.

Especially with Biden being so old, confused and addle-brained I bet he would mistake a clear photo of his wife for a sexual assault accuser "not remotely his type" multiple times under oath even with millions of dollars riding on it.

Maybe all those Repubs missed it because they were blinded by light from Jewish Space Lasers.

[Tiny 12]

Republicans Finally Admit They Have No Incriminating Evidence on Joe Biden.
A 65-page report, a press conference, and nothing to show for it.
May 11, 2023

Silly Republicans. If you're going to try to lock up Tony Soprano, do you go after Meadow and A. J. Soprano? Would you go after the kids of mob bosses? Of course not. You go after the capos and the lieutenants. The made men. In Biden's case, that's people like Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries and Merrick Garland. We're not literally talking "family" here.

The silly Republicans are hyper-focused on a tree and totally missing the forest. Yes, the Biden Family Criminal Syndicate is much, much bigger than the actual Biden family. The sums of money we're talking about are 100,000X greater than the measly amount Hunter received for attempted influence peddling.

Last week on Morning Joe (MSNBC), Steve Rattner, one of the enablers of the Syndicate, approvingly said Biden planned to steal an additional $5.5 trillion from American citizens and businesses over the next 10 years through higher taxes.

Now the EPA is planning to require natural gas and coal fired power plants to eliminate nearly all their carbon dioxide emissions in just a little over a decade. That may involve stealing another trillion from shareholders in the utility companies and the gas and coal companies who will end up with stranded assets. Or from consumers who will pay much higher prices for electricity when the utilities pass through the cost of carbon sequestration to them.

Then there are the new proposed rules from the EPA, that will ensure 67% of new passenger cars and 25% of heavy trucks sold in the USA are all-electric by 2032. That's going to cost a bundle.

And how about Biden's attempt to shut down oil and gas drilling on federal lands and federal offshore leases? If he'd been successful in that, he would have stranded hundreds of billions in assets.

And as a part of this enterprise in theft, Joe Biden, the Godfather (aka "the Don", aka "The Big Guy") and other Democratic Politicians will hand out a ton of money to their contributors, green energy entrepreneurs and the like. They got a good start with the ridiculously-named "Inflation Reduction Act." A Wall Street Journal editorial estimates the green handouts and subsidies in the Inflation Reduction Act will cost over $1 trillion.

I'm sure there are other examples. I know a bit about taxes and energy so am familiar with the ones described above. However, just as the mafia engages in many endeavors, like extortion, drugs, gambling, and theft, so too the Democratic Party crime syndicate must be stealing in other ways than just through taxation and energy.

This is not a slam on you and other esteemed board members who are Democratic Party sympathizers. You are simply mistaken, just like the innocents in Sinaloa who idolized El Chapo or the people in Medellin who loved Pablo Escobar. Hopefully with time you will learn.

[JustTK]

"After 8 years of Obama Americans' lives were worse" or some such BS "and that's why they voted for Trump and not Hillary.

Uh. Hillary got 3 million more votes than Trump. Yep, trs got 3 million more votes than Donald Trump.

I couldn't have scripted it any better.

[EihTooms]

This is a must watch for half the participants here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX74Hij3aMM

And its funny as FK for the rest.

Yes, Jimmy Dore is funny as fuck if you find unmitigated ill-informed BS to be funny.

"After 8 years of Obama Americans' lives were worse" or some such BS "and that's why they voted for Trump and not Hillary.

Uh. Hillary got 3 million more votes than Trump. Yep, the first woman nominee for a major political party, one who had been lied about and demonized by the opposition for the previous 30+ years got 3 million more votes than Donald Trump.

And that was because Americans' lives were no better in 2016 after 7 years of steady, straight line declines in the Unemployment Rate, a record number of consecutive months of job gains and NO Great Recession vs the USA economy Crashing down around our ears at a historic level into millions upon millions of job losses and the Greatest Repub Recession in late 2008/ early 2009 since the Great Repub Depression of the late 1920's / early 1930's.

Way to rewrite history, Jimmy. LOL.

That is, according to idiot Jimmy Dore and, presumably, some lamebrain drunks they asked at local bars. LOL.

So that other brain dead idiot, Dr. Phil, pointed out that Dems and Repubs each held control of the government for about 50% of the time over the past few decades and, oh look, nothing has changed or improved. Uh-huh. Except he neglected to mention that the 50% of the time Repubs were in control we were plunged into the worst economic downturns of all time, Trump's term being just the latest example, vs the 50% of the time when Dems were in control we enjoyed the Greatest Recoveries, Expansions and Job Gains of all time, Biden's term being the latest example of that.

I really couldn't stomach any more than that and it was only the first 5-6 minutes of that astonishing BS fest.

[JustTK]

This is a must watch for half the participants here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX74Hij3aMM

And its funny as FK for the rest.

[Tiny 12]

I don't have my mind set firmly yet on what the best way forward should be. At this point, I think some form of reparation is due. Simply bcos it has never been settled. BUt that could be in the form investment in prev disadvantaged regions, natuonal housing projects, citizenship opportunities (for the CARICOM nations). But before all this, we must put an end to continued discrimation that exists, otherwsie the 'debt' simply gets bigger.

JustTK, This actually is quite reasonable IMHO, if you're talking about countries like Jamaica, Dominica and Haiti that truly are poor. From having seen a couple of museums in Caribbean countries, yes, peoples' ancestors were subjected to incredible hardship by Europeans, who should have left their former colonies in better shape.

Where ChuchoLoco and I are having a problem is when this is extended to the USA. Or in my mind to other prosperous places like the Bahamas, Cayman Islands and British Virgin Islands. Many of us aren't as well off as the people we'd be paying reparations to.

[ChuchoLoco]

I'm with you ChuchoLoco. San Francisco is considering $5,000,000 payments to every eligible black adult, the elimination of personal debt and tax burdens, guaranteed annual incomes of at least $97,000 for 250 years, and homes for $1.00 a family, among other recommendations from the city-appointed reparations committee.

https://apnews.com/article/san-franc...8ce0e444f86189

The state of California's reparations task force has approved recommendations which could give black residents $1.2 million each as compensation for slavery.

Tiny,

Which one of the recipients was a slave? Thats just insane! The problem is that if California does it then they will want it in all states. Most wont be so stupid to do so, at least I hope not. The grocery store and the local Target cose to my house have a mixed clientele. This is because the grocery stores and others in minority areas here have closed for reasons that I wont go into here. But what I have noticed is that the shopping carts are full and the cars and SUVs the minority clients drive are for the most part, much nicer than mine. Im talking Audi, Lexus, Mercedes and late model US cars. I drive a Honda 2019 HRV so its decent and really what I can afford and all that I need. But I am really amazed every time Im in the parking lots.

I agree with what you have said too. Sometimes I wish that I was younger but the way things are going, maybe Im better off being a class of 69.Another couple years and Ill have to settle for the old gals. What a horrible thought! Hahaha. Get it while you can. Just say No to reparations should be a new motto.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-2million.html

I don't get it. The people who deserve reparations are dead. Black, white, brown and yellow Americans are all better off than most people in the world. There are a lot of Nigerians, Ukrainians, Venezuelans and Chinese who would give their right nuts to go to America.

Yes, Black Americans on average don't receive as good of education or health care. And we should do more to alleviate that. But these multimillion dollar per person reparations are nuts. As I understand it, there never was much slavery in California, and it was outlawed in the 1840's, almost 200 years ago.

BUT, if Californians want to do that, I think they should have at it. As long as it doesn't affect my taxes I don't really care.

Tiny, my turn to agree with you and all that you said.

The local grocery store and Target have a mixed clientele but more minorities the last couple years because all the stores in their neighborhoods have closed for reasons you can imagine. Their shopping cars are full and many pay with those welfare cards or whatever they use now but you should see the cars they drive. All new luxury foreign cars or SUVs. All better than my Honda HRV bare bones model. If California does it, everyone in every state will want and cry for it. Man, I used to want to be young but the way this is going, better to be from the class of '69 as I am.

The nice thing about Medellin for me until the last couple years was getting away from things.

[ChuchoLoco]

Firstly, I have lived in 2 countries where I was prejudiced against by the government bcos of my colour / origins. Not that it matters. One of those countries was where I heard this refrain as an excuse so often it was sickening "you were not from here, so how would you know, so shut up" - this is the most feeble excuse bcos I found that actually the most ignorant people were the ones that were living there at that time bcos they were subjected to the strongest propaganda by thier governments. They only heard one side (the false side) of the arguments.

I believe all forms of discrimination are abhorrent. That is why I am all for open borders. An end to nation states.

I don't have my mind set firmly yet on what the best way forward should be. At this point, I think some form of reparation is due. Simply bcos it has never been settled. BUt that could be in the form investment in prev disadvantaged regions, natuonal housing projects, citizenship opportunities (for the CARICOM nations). But before all this, we must put an end to continued discrimation that exists, otherwsie the 'debt' simply gets bigger.

TK,

I haven't walked in your shoes and you haven't walked in mine.

CL.

[JustTK]

but since you are not from USA you really can't know or promote such a thing. That's when I learned about reverse racism and changed my mind about the whole poor black men.
Unless you have lived in a neighborhood or city that changed racially you can't relate.

Firstly, I have lived in 2 countries where I was prejudiced against by the government bcos of my colour / origins. Not that it matters. One of those countries was where I heard this refrain as an excuse so often it was sickening "you were not from here, so how would you know, so shut up" - this is the most feeble excuse bcos I found that actually the most ignorant people were the ones that were living there at that time bcos they were subjected to the strongest propaganda by thier governments. They only heard one side (the false side) of the arguments.

I believe all forms of discrimination are abhorrent. That is why I am all for open borders. An end to nation states.

I don't have my mind set firmly yet on what the best way forward should be. At this point, I think some form of reparation is due. Simply bcos it has never been settled. BUt that could be in the form investment in prev disadvantaged regions, natuonal housing projects, citizenship opportunities (for the CARICOM nations). But before all this, we must put an end to continued discrimation that exists, otherwsie the 'debt' simply gets bigger.

[Tiny 12]

Reparations

I'm with you ChuchoLoco. San Francisco is considering $5,000,000 payments to every eligible black adult, the elimination of personal debt and tax burdens, guaranteed annual incomes of at least $97,000 for 250 years, and homes for $1.00 a family, among other recommendations from the city-appointed reparations committee.

https://apnews.com/article/san-franc...8ce0e444f86189

The state of California's reparations task force has approved recommendations which could give black residents $1.2 million each as compensation for slavery.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-2million.html

I don't get it. The people who deserve reparations are dead. Black, white, brown and yellow Americans are all better off than most people in the world. There are a lot of Nigerians, Ukrainians, Venezuelans and Chinese who would give their right nuts to go to America.

Yes, Black Americans on average don't receive as good of education or health care. And we should do more to alleviate that. But these multimillion dollar per person reparations are nuts. As I understand it, there never was much slavery in California, and it was outlawed in the 1840's, almost 200 years ago.

BUT, if Californians want to do that, I think they should have at it. As long as it doesn't affect my taxes I don't really care.

[Tiny 12]

Fascinating idea put forward here. I am not sure I have ever heard it myself. Its about how capitalism (remember, the freedom ideology) requires closed borders in order to function well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXrWtRZofmE&t=823s

Watch it until 20 min mark. You can apply this to USA too, although its a UK news show.

No, the guy on the left, Michael Walker, is right. Capitalism is all for more open borders. Walker correctly states that the Economist, the flagship publication of British liberal capitalism, encourages immigration. So do USA Corporations, which are always trying to get the government to issue more H1 B immigrant visas. I believe you define socialism as a system where workers control the businesses. Well then, it's the socialists and the labor unions which historically have been the biggest critics of immigration in the USA and the UK. They don't want competition for jobs. They'd rather the poor Mexican or African stay home and starve to death. And yes, more recently the populist right, represented by leaders like Nigel Farage and Donald Trump, is very anti immigrant.

The most capitalist countries in the world, Singapore and Hong Kong, are the easiest to visit. Practically no one needs a visa. And socialist or formerly socialist countries like Russia, China and Vietnam are among the hardest. I had to jump through hoops to get visas to go there anyway.

I’m an anarcho Libertarian capitalist, and my personal view is that the USA should allow anyone to immigrate who believes in Capitalism and who would vote for Republicans.

[EihTooms]

Republicans Finally Admit They Have No Incriminating Evidence on Joe Biden.
A 65-page report, a press conference, and nothing to show for it.
May 11, 2023

https://newrepublic.com/post/172627/...ence-joe-biden

Republicans big investigation into the Biden family has revealed not a lot.

The House GOP accused Joe Biden and his family on Wednesday of engaging in business with foreign entitiesbut were unable to provide any actual evidence linking the president to any wrongdoing.

House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer released a 65-page memo detailing a sprawling investigation into Biden and some of his relatives, particularly his son Hunter Biden. Nowhere in the massive document was there a specific allegation of a crime committed by Biden or any of his relatives.

During a press conference explaining the investigation, Comer was asked if he had evidence directly linking Biden to corruption. The Kentucky Republican hemmed and hawed but ultimately admitted he didnt.

The memo accuses the Biden family of involvement in a scheme to peddle influence in Romania from 2015 to 2017, as well as financial dealings with individuals in China. Hunter Bidens name comes up repeatedly. But the memo contains scant details of all of these alleged dealings, nor does it contain any evidence that any laws were broken or that Biden was involved in his sons Chinese business.

Never fear, admitted Repubs and pro Repub Bothsiders / Neithersiders, this nothingess on Biden will still be a centerpiece of the Know Nothing, Do Nothing Repub campaign against him in 2024.

And, never fear, pro Repub Mainstream Media will be right there for them every step of the way to suggest there might still be kinda sorta maybe something kinda sorta maybe there for America to consider in their vote instead of, you know, the irrefutable historic data and record of results showing their beloved Repubs to be absolutely atrocious at handling the USA economy, national security, protecting and defending the Constitution and American democracy.

[ChuchoLoco]

If you read my comment again you will note that I didn't express an opinion. And I am not from USA or Europe so I won't be asked to pay anything.

I am not familiar with your fmily story nor what a WASP is. So I am not position to comment on that. BUt what makes you say "Reparations have no benefit except to those who do nothing to deserve another handout. " IS there a historical record to support your claim?

Let's say I qualify for a payment. I use the money to start a small business that provide for me and my family. This means that I would not qualify for or deserve another benefit, yet the reparation have provided benefit. So surely this is an example which contradicts your statement?

Start a business with your own money not some undeserved handout. I agree with you on many things but since you are not from USA you really can't know or promote such a thing. I think maybe you are from South Africa and even though there was minority white rule and segregation, it's a totally different history and situation. I wish slavered never took place but it was the Dutch who did most. WASP is white Anglo Saxon Protestant. I did study some about Mandela just a few years ago and he was a most incredible man. We all should be more like him. When I was young, Imwas a carpenter apprentice during the 70's. Jobs were impossible to get. But the city I lived in received a lot of federal money. There was a black mayor and his policy was that all jobs had to be manned by minorities! No whites! I lived in that shit hole city but couldn't work there! That's when I learned about reverse racism and changed my mind about the whole poor black men.

You can't understand but it's a real sore spot with me. Unless you have lived in a neighborhood or city that changed racially you can't relate. No personal attack on you.

[EihTooms]

If there is a default, it's because Biden and Yellen and others want a default for political purposes. All they have to do is maintain interest payments on the debt and cut other government expenditures, and there will be no default.

So just "pay the interest" and "cut other government expenditures"?

How about we demonstrate to the world that we are not all Deadbeat Repubs here who can't be trusted to pay the bills Trump and Deadbeat Repubs racked up to the tune of 25% of all the debt the USA had racked up since the beginning without any bullshit hostage-taking and still damaging brinkmanship that might again result in Deadbeat Repubs lowering our credit rating?

You know, the way Deadbeat Repubs did at least 3 times under Trump when he and they added $Trillions to the debt / deficit with practically nothing of value to show for it even before Trump laid the groundwork for, created and developed Trump's Pandemic.

[JustTK]

Fascinating idea put forward here. I am not sure I have ever heard it myself. Its about how capitalism (remember, the freedom ideology) requires closed borders in order to function well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXrWtRZofmE&t=823s

Watch it until 20 min mark. You can apply this to USA too, although its a UK news show.