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09-20-21 18:42 #4744
Posts: 1604Please stop lying
Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
I an attaching a chart from Science Magazine. Notice the dates on "Line #1" (the solid black line). Blows your "the travel bandaid worked" BS out of the water because it shows the virus from China arriving after donnie's bandaid. Oops! Also notice the dates on the solid yellow line. It shows that the European mutation was here a month before trump decided to shut down travel from Europe.
Typical trump: a day late and a dollar short!
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09-20-21 18:22 #4743
Posts: 1604So, explain this
Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
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09-20-21 18:14 #4742
Posts: 1604It is you who missed the point. Again!
Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
But you, of course, didn't respond to any of my other points. Probably because you can't.
Mexico's version of the Federal Election Commission issues the only valid voter ID card. That's so that states can't issue idiotic requirements like "the only valid ID is a hunting license". The QOP is against this.
By law, Mexico must have at least 1 polling place per 750 people. This makes voting easy so the QOP hate this idea.
Mexico's election day falls on a Sunday and is a national holiday. This makes voting easy so the QOP hate this idea.
By law gerrymandering is forbidden. The QOP would never allow this.
So, since you are into people answering either / or questions:
A. Would you accept all of the Mexican-style requirements in the US; or.
B. Would you not accept all of the Mexican-style requirements in the US?
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09-20-21 14:45 #4741
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
Trump shut down flights from China on January 31, 2020. The democrats opposed this, with Pelosi going round telling everyone to hug a Chinaman, and Biden calling it "xenophobic". Would the democrat policy of allowing thousands of covid-infected Chinese to fly into the country daily have:
A) increased, or.
B) reduced.
The spread of covid? No need for a long-winded answer which nobody will read, just A or b. Thanks.
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09-20-21 14:41 #4740
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
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09-20-21 14:38 #4739
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
Never mind the Chinese who allowed the virus out of the lab and out of their country, or Fauci who funded its development. It was such a ludicrously foolish statement, even by the standards of the bonkers Bolsheviks on this board, it needed to be called out.
As to the 14% figure, many third world countries don't have any idea how many covid deaths they have. Old, sick people die of covid, and nobody knows. By contrast, in the US the figures are inflated to include everyone who dies with covid, not just of it. Most notoriously the victim of an auto accident was classed a covid death because he tested positive while in the hospital. Ditto for many other sick people dying of something else, who catch it in hospital.
So the real figure for the US is far lower than 14%. Probably around half of that, which is what you would expect given age demographics.
Finally, the least vaccinated group in the US is blacks. Last time I checked, most of them aren't Republican voters. But facts don't matter to Bolsheviks, as we have seen with the Michael Brown hoax, the Fentanyl Floyd hoax, the Russia collusion hoax, the mail-in ballot hoax, the Global Warming we're all going to die in 10 years hoax, and so many more.
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09-20-21 14:35 #4738
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by SouthEaster [View Original Post]
That average includes all the fake "covid deaths" of people who died in car crashes, heart attacks or many other reasons, who happened to test positive for covid in the hospital (probably because they caught it there). So the real average covid death is even older, sicker and closer to death's door than even that.
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09-20-21 14:29 #4737
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
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09-20-21 10:03 #4736
Posts: 1056I'm not vaccinated and I had Covid
Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
None of that changes anything. These are experimental shots making Big Pharma richer and changing our way of life.
It is a last throw of the dice by the USA to control the world, now that its military got booted out of Afghanistan and is facing defeat squaring up to China. Isn't it strange, in all your talk of American politics, you lot never talk about the ongoing genocides you commit. ? Your addiction to Big Pharma is so typical: another blanket to protect you from the world, just like your nuclear arsenal. Small dick syndrome.
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09-20-21 06:19 #4735
Posts: 1104Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
It's when anti-vaxxer / anti-masker ignorant fools, get on the air waves and bloviate, espouse and spew their so called COVID medical knowledge, to trusting Americans, is when it becomes problematic for the general public at large and specifically the medical profession and hospitals.
The case of longtime conservative talker and anti-vaxxer, Dick Farrel, best sums it up, when he was dying from COVID and said,"...COVID is no joke, I wish I had gotten vaccinated!
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09-20-21 05:48 #4734
Posts: 1104Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1 [View Original Post]
Check these out, if you're so inclined:
https://www.antiextremememes.co.uk/l...est-trumpisms/
https://www.jdjournal.com/2015/09/23...ous-trumpisms/
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09-20-21 04:31 #4733
Posts: 1604You evidently know nothing about how Congress works
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
You have posted some imbecilic things here but this takes the cake!
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09-20-21 04:24 #4732
Posts: 1604More BS
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
BS Contention #2: Deer, etc. Who cares? Do you have proof that the deer, etc. Have infected humans? If not, you are simply howling at the moon. As usual.
BS Contention #3: The vaccine doesn't prevent transmission. True. It doesn't. But here's what it does do. It prevents hospitalization and death, for the most part. The vast majority of hospitalizations and deaths are the unvaccinated who are, primarily, MAGAts. One thing you trumpers forget about science is that science is always changing. Trumpers say "that's lying". What it is is BS.
BS Contention #4: The remainder of your nonsense. One of the tenets of conservatism is "You've got to live with your choices. " It is every trumper's right to remain unvaccinated. It is their employer's right to fire their sorry asses if they aren't vaccinated. Tough. Being unemployed is a consequence of a trumper's vaccination decision. The QOP conveniently forgets lots of things when it comes to vaccination. Most school children need to be vaccinated. All the military need to be vaccinated.
All I wish is that the unvaccinated trumpers would volunteer to work in a COVID ward. For a month. Without PPE. And to decline medical assistance when they get COVID. But they won't. They're too scared.
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09-20-21 02:04 #4731
Posts: 2579Screw your liberty?
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
I remember after 9/11 the left said liberty is paramount, now the right says that.
Kinda like pro-choice my body my choice, why doesn't that apply to vaxes?
Too much hypocrisy for me, that's why I don't belong to the left or right, but sides are full of toxic shit.
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09-20-21 01:09 #4730
Posts: 3207Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
Israel was the highest vaccinated country in the world and had the highest rates of Covid. Look at first world countries that are highly vaccinated versus third world countries and the cases per million category. It is not even close.
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
The point I was making was not how long or how severe the side effects are but that there are risks to the vaccine.
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlo...psons-paradox/
Your link is saying the same thing I did. Yes, you can say you are twice as likely to get hospitalized if you do not have the vaccine, 4% versus 2% in Israel. You can also say that the vaccine prevents one hospitalization for every 50 people who get it as of now, and there is no guarantee even that number holds up.
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
Now tell me how the fuck are deer getting Covid? And how do we stop the spread of Covid when it was supposedly in bats and pangolins and jumped to humans? If you support the idea that the vaccine is going to prevent the spread then shouldn't you have to vaccinate all the deer, bats, and pangolins too? Aren't they part of the herd?
This whole thing is such bullshit, and you know who agrees with me? The head of the CDC: https://edition.cnn.com/us/live-news...d02c536828ea1e.
"Our vaccines are working exceptionally well," Walensky told CNN's Wolf Blitzer in reference to fully vaccinated people who get breakthrough infections. "They continue to work well for Delta, with regard to severe illness and death – they prevent it. But what they can't do anymore is prevent transmission. ".
Wait a second! Aren't unvaccinated Republicans killing vaxxed Democrats and those advocating against the vaccine killing people too? You douches have been running with that narrative for so long you do not even get that it has not proven to be true.
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
And what I do not get about you douches on this forum is how you totally reject the government's stance on sexuality, on women, and on prostitution, and yet you run to them on other health matters and believe everything they say. Why wouldn't the government use the CDC and other health organizations to lie and support its stance on sexuality? Show me a peer reviewed article that supports the polyamorous lifestyle that so many guys here lead and are fine. Do you expect a study about the damages of a toxic wife? Of divorce being so devastating for most men they should never marry? Shit, all I see is this bullshit about how married men live longer.
It is a fact the CDC lied about the AIDS numbers and how rare it was spread heterosexually in the late 80's and early 90's. It is a fact that latex allergies have been diminished and the studies showing the ineffectiveness of condoms in STD prevention has been buried.
That is the part with you douches I will never get. You fuck boat loads of women bare and go to other countries to do it and yet swallow up every bit of BS the government and Fauci put out with Covid. How do you all live and support sexual freedom and yet demand that others get the Covid vaccine at gun point especially now that vaccines have not been shown to prevent the spread of Covid?
You should look at every potentially political government health decision with a grain of salt just like you did with sexuality.