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09-22-22 03:15 #10306
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
That have left you so uninformed of what really happened?
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09-22-22 00:49 #10305
Posts: 1807Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Social Security would have gone bankrupt if not for the 1983 Amendments. Since you kindly pulled info from a think tank dear to my heart, the Cato Institute, I'll try to repay the favor. This is from the CBPP, a left of center organization.
https://www.cbpp.org/blog/social-security-its-not-1983
From the piece, "On April 20,1983, President Reagan signed major Social Security reform legislation, which Congress had passed by large bipartisan majorities. The program's actuaries had warned that unless policymakers acted Social Security would be unable to continue paying full benefits in July 1983. But soon after the law's enactment, the trustees certified that the trust funds wouldn't become insolvent until sometime outside their 75-year window for evaluating the program's long-term finances that is, until after the late 2050's....While Social Security isn't in crisis, 1983 does have lessons for us. One is the importance of bipartisanship; much of the credit for pushing a deal sometimes ascribed to the so-called Greenspan Commission actually belongs to then-Speaker Tip O'Neill and President Ronald Reagan and pragmatists from both parties. ".
Take a look at the last column in the first table in the following.
https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4a3.html
The growth in asset reserves in the "Old-Age, Survivors and Disability Insurance Trust Funds," from $24.9 billion in 1983 to $2.9 trillion at present, is due almost entirely to changes in funding and spending provided for in the 1983 amendments.
You said you believe that bills that are passed with ANY Republican support are bad bills. So I can't sensibly argue with you about Clinton and Gingrich, any more than I could sensibly argue with a Trumpster about election fraud in 2020.
But, since I'm a fool....
The 1994 and 1995 budgets, passed when Democrats controlled the House, Senate, and Presidency, resulted in deficits of $203 billion and $164 billion respectively. After Republicans took control of the House, the deficits moved to surpluses. When we have split government, so that one party can't get everything it wants, spending isn't as likely to get out of control. You have to go back 30 years before Clinton and Gingrich to see a surplus -- a measly 3.2 billion in 1969. And we haven't seen once since. See https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/stat...ts-and-outlays
I'd count the Welfare to Work bill and cutting the capital gains tax to 20% as other good things that happened during this period. You'd undoubtedly disagree.
Are you proud of me? I'm providing links!!!
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09-21-22 22:37 #10304
Posts: 1127Speak of "the devil" and taking/using someone else's schtick...
How apropos, to a recent post here, as Donnie "the Devil" J. Dummkopf, daemon spawn incarnate, is steaming mad that Ronald De-Satan-is, stole his idea for sending immigrants to the blue states.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...nt-2022-9?op=1
https://dailycaller.com/2022/09/19/r...s-blue-states/
https://sports.yahoo.com/trump-fumes...235939712.html
It seems Donnie "the Devil" J. Dummkopf, doesn't like it when someone else "steals his schtick". (....kkkk!)
Not to worry though, for unlike, Donnie "the devil" J. Dummkopf, I'm willing to share with anyone who wants to use "my schtick".
Peace Brother!
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09-21-22 22:20 #10303
Posts: 2344So, to what country do you expect TrumpShit to flee to in exile?
So, to what country do you expect TrumpShit to flee to in exile?
In the prior century there were over 50 different known countries (documented) that were hosts of ousted dictators.
The leading exile destinations were the United States, the United Kingdom, Russia, Argentina, and France.
I expect it will be Russia, where he's earned a double-agent pension (vested in it one week after stealing documents from the White House on moving day, Tuesday 1/19/2021).
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09-21-22 21:14 #10302
Posts: 1604Wow
Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1 [View Original Post]
If this was a public forum, I'd say you won the "Dumb Internet Comment Of The Century" award.
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09-21-22 21:11 #10301
Posts: 1604Really?
Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1 [View Original Post]
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09-21-22 20:14 #10300
Posts: 1127Mod. Repubs vs. Donnie "the Devil" J. Dummkopf, the Destroyer of Democracy
Republicans in some key swing states push back against Donnie "the devil" J. Dummkopf, daemon spawn incarnate and "standup for democracy".
Group of Pennsylvania Republicans back Democrat Shapiro for governor.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...nor/ar-AAZh1nj
https://www.koin.com/news/group-of-p...o-for-governor
Former Kansas Gov. (Rep) Bill Graves once again endorses (Dem) Laura Kelly in gubernatorial election.
https://kansaspublicradio.org/kpr-ne...democrat-kelly
https://www.kcur.org/podcast/up-to-d...orial-election
Prominent Republicans (in Michigan) join a coalition to support (Dem) Whitmer for re-election.
https://www.metrotimes.com/news/prom...ction-31063447
https://democraticgovernors.org/upda...etchen-whitmer
Meanwhile, many of the QAnon / Repubs quackery, after campaigning on "stop the steal" and "Trump Won" rhetoric, to win their Primaries, suddenly do an "about-face" and declare Biden the winner of the 2020 election. (...kkk!)
Typical QAnon / GQP gutless, two-face hypocracy. So for now, like (R) Donald C. Bolduc of New Hampshire, lets just call Biden the winner, so we can pretend like we are "a moderate conservative Republican", in order to compete in the general election.
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09-21-22 04:13 #10299
Posts: 2579God (aka Trump) saved America in 2016
Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill saved social security and Medicare from bankruptcy.
Wow that's a tuff sentence to wrap my mind around LOL.
RR / and the GOP saved SS and Medicare LOL.
Those are really some Baghdad Bob like sentiments LOL.
And it was BUBBA that came up with his bullshit evil plan, the "3rd way" aka selling the DNC to Wall Street.
A model Barry Hussein dutifully continued as is Joe the Turd.
https://unherd.com/2018/10/third-way-lost-way/#text=How%20 the%20 Third%20 Way%20 lost%20 its%20 way%20 By, fateful%20 consequences%20 for%20 politics%20 throughout%20 the%20 democratic%20 West.
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09-21-22 03:14 #10298
Posts: 5465Is that an exmple of your sourcing methods?
Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
It is incorrect:
https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis...t-myth-reality
Just wondering. Are sources like that post where you got the idea that Ronald Reagan and later Newt Gingrich had anything to do with "saving Social Security" etc or anything other than obstructing and diminishing a much better Clinton / Dem economy in the 1990's than the historically positive one we had despite the Gingrich's Repub Congress' zero votes for the Clinton / Dem legislation and efforts to produce it?
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09-21-22 02:46 #10297
Posts: 1807Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1 [View Original Post]
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09-21-22 02:39 #10296
Posts: 1807Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
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09-21-22 02:06 #10295
Posts: 2579Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
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09-21-22 01:37 #10294
Posts: 2579Well we finally disagree and 100% no less
Originally Posted by CaliGuy [View Original Post]
They are two low life criminals.
I'll name just a couple things he did to get a few hundred million in kickbacks laundered thru the CF.
CCP into the WTO, NAFTA Glass Steagal and gutted the safety net for millions of poor Americans not unlike that scumbag Ronnie the Retard.
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09-21-22 01:24 #10293
Posts: 1127At least get the schtick right
Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1 [View Original Post]
"There's evil and then there's E. V. I. L. ", just like Donnie "the Devil" J. Dummkopf.
Shheesh!
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09-21-22 01:08 #10292
Posts: 1127Bothersidesism, just America bashing?
Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
Surely, you're not that dumb you can't paraphrase in your own words, expressed as your opinions, the "bothsidesism" writings of "Joe Author(s)"?
Or is that just too difficult for you to formulate an opinion of your own, after said reading? Let me put it too you in simpler terms. Consider it like a book report a school child has to give. They then use their own words to summarize their opinions as to what "Joe Author(s)" were saying. Simple enough!
Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]