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11-16-21 02:06 #5346
Posts: 428Infatuated with Trump
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
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11-16-21 01:50 #5345
Posts: 3497Desantis next POTUS
I'm glad to see a real leader like Desantis standing up to the Biden admin's absurd policy of flying illegal aliens all over the USA without even notifying the states they are sending them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNuQG3oRm_I
I agree with Desantis, ship all illegals to Delaware.
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11-16-21 01:13 #5344
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
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11-16-21 00:03 #5343
Posts: 3160What a gift to Trump!
If you thought the DOJ was not an extension of the Democratic party, today was not a good day for you. Former Trump adviser Steve Bannon was taken into federal custody on Monday to face contempt charges over his refusal to cooperate with Democrats' January 6 congressional investigation. He will appear before a judge later in the day.
The 67-year-old was indicted on Friday on two counts of criminal contempt. One for refusing to provide documents in response to the House committee's investigation, and the other for refusing to appear for a congressional deposition.
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So here we go again. The Dems using the DOJ trying to arrest their way to victory. 1-6 is seen as treason and not what it was: a mild reaction to the shams that were Russiagate and Ukrainegate.
Henry Kissinger.
Janet Reno.
Harriet Miers.
Joshua Bolton.
Eric Holder.
Lois Lerner.
Bryan Pagliano.
Bill Barr.
Chad Wolf.
All held in contempt of Congress and not arrested.
And you saw it here. Every person who voted for Trump is stupid and should have their vote not count.
Hell, maybe we should just arrest everyone who ever voted Republican. Isn't that what you douches really want? After all we voted for someone who killed nearly a million people. Aren't we accessories to murder?
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11-15-21 23:46 #5342
Posts: 5385Thanks, Brandon!
Originally Posted by CaliGuy [View Original Post]
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11-15-21 22:24 #5341
Posts: 3160Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
And is everyone who votes for Trump a Russian spy too whose vote should be thrown out?
Isn't that what you would like Xpartan?
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11-15-21 22:20 #5340
Posts: 3160Not that it is going to matter
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Stories have been coming out for some time now hinting Mueller's final report might leave audiences "disappointed," as if a President not being a foreign spy could somehow be bad news.
Openly using such language has, all along, been an indictment. Imagine how tone-deaf you'd have to be to not realize it makes you look bad, when news does not match audience expectations you raised. To be unaware of this is mind-boggling, the journalistic equivalent of walking outside without pants.
There will be people protesting: the Mueller report doesn't prove anything! What about the 37 indictments? The convictions? The Trump tower revelations? The lies! The meeting with Don, Jr? The financial matters! There's an ongoing grand jury investigation, and possible sealed indictments, and the House will still investigate, and.
Stop. Just stop. Any journalist who goes there is making it worse.
For years, every pundit and Democratic pol in Washington hyped every new Russia headline like the Watergate break-in. Now, even Nancy Pelosi has said impeachment is out, unless something "so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan" against Trump is uncovered it would be worth their political trouble to prosecute.
The biggest thing this affair has uncovered so far is Donald Trump paying off a porn star. That's a hell of a long way from what this business was supposedly about at the beginning, and shame on any reporter who tries to pretend this isn't so.
The story hyped from the start was espionage: a secret relationship between the Trump campaign and Russian spooks who'd helped him win the election.
The betrayal narrative was not reported as metaphor. It was not "Trump likes the Russians so much, he might as well be a spy for them. " It was literal spying, treason, and election-fixing crimes so severe, former NSA employee John Schindler told reporters, Trump "will die in jail."
In the early months of this scandal, the New York Times said Trump's campaign had "repeated contacts" with Russian intelligence; the Wall Street Journal told us our spy agencies were withholding intelligence from the new President out of fear he was compromised; news leaked out our spy chiefs had even told other countries like Israel not to share their intel with us, because the Russians might have "leverages of pressure" on Trump.
CNN told us Trump officials had been in "constant contact" with "Russians known to USA Intelligence," and the former director of the CIA, who'd helped kick-start the investigation that led to Mueller's probe, said the President was guilty of "high crimes and misdemeanors," committing acts "nothing short of treasonous."
Hillary Clinton insisted Russians "could not have known how to weaponize" political ads unless they'the been "guided" by Americans. Asked if she meant Trump, she said.
"It's pretty hard not to. " Harry Reid similarly said he had "no doubt" that the Trump campaign was "in on the deal" to help Russians with the leak.
None of this has been walked back. To be clear, if Trump were being blackmailed by Russian agencies like the FSB or the GRU, if he had any kind of relationship with Russian intelligence, that would soar over the "overwhelming and bipartisan" standard, and Nancy Pelosi would be damning torpedoes for impeachment right now.
There was never real gray area here. Either Trump is a compromised foreign agent, or he isn't. If he isn't, news outlets once again swallowed a massive disinformation campaign, only this error is many orders of magnitude more stupid than any in the recent past, WMD included. Honest reporters like ABC's Terry Moran understand: Mueller coming back empty-handed on collusion means a "reckoning for the media."
Of course, there won't be such a reckoning. (There never is). But there should be. We broke every written and unwritten rule in pursuit of this story, starting with the prohibition on reporting things we can't confirm.
End of quote. The irony is Taibbi was wrong. There was a disastrous impeachment.
Eih, seeing as how Trump has killed 750,000 Americans, should he not be allowed to run for office again?
And shouldn't anyone who votes for Trump (or voted for him in the past) be tried as an accessory to murder?
In fact, shouldn't anyone who votes Republican ever again have their votes disallowed because they are agents of Russia like Trump?
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11-15-21 22:05 #5339
Posts: 3160Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
If you do not want to be vaxxed, voting for Trump was stupid.
If your business has been hurt by any of Biden's other executive orders (airlines, health care), voting for Trump was stupid.
If you have relatives in Afghanistan, voting for Trump was stupid.
Here is what you are trying to say: Voting for Trump hurts my paycheck, and anyone who messes with my paycheck is stupid.
You do not even care to understand the other's side POV.
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11-15-21 19:58 #5338
Posts: 428Do you know what is even stupider?
Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
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11-15-21 19:47 #5337
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
Hahahahaja.
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11-15-21 15:38 #5336
Posts: 1604I beg to differ
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
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11-15-21 15:34 #5335
Posts: 1604And once more
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
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11-15-21 14:45 #5334
Posts: 428Amazing
It is amazing that the USA is in a serious decline since Biden took office and all the socialists keep bringing up past presidents and Trump. Biden has been in office for almost a year and he he is a wreck and not a word of it from the so called democrats here. I guess they are following the socialists thinking like communism in China and Russia where you can not say anything bad about the communism policies.
Afghanistan catastrophe.
Border crises worst ever.
Highest inflation in 31 years.
Wokeness.
Mishandling covid.
Falling asleep at the most important international conference.
Harris laughing about the border and inflation.
The country has serious problems and incompetent president and VP and you are still talking Russia?
People across the country are suffering because of Biden and all of you are ignoring it. You are obviously good cult followers.
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11-15-21 14:34 #5333
Posts: 428This post proves you are
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
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11-15-21 08:22 #5332
Posts: 1925Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
You pal Elvis has already flipped "Russiagate" to Biden (yeah, Russiagate, no less).
Like Russian Internet Research Agency trolls never toasted "we made America great again. ".
Like Russia never orchestrated those wikimedia leaks.
Like Putin never admitted they'd wanted Trump to win.
Like Donnie never asked Russia to dig more dirt on Hillary.
Like Donnie never laughed his ass off with Lavrov and Kisliak after firing Comey (with only Putin's TASS agency granted access to snap pictures).
Like Donnie never shared secret Israeli data with the Russians.
Like Donnie never met with the Russians alone, against all diplomatic protocols, without his aides and even an interpreter present.
Like Donnie never admired and excused Putin as a murderer. .
Like Donnie never sent his brain-damaged son to meet with Putin's agent in Trump Tower (and then taught the junior how to lie about it).
Like Donnie never told he trusted Putin more than his own 18 national security agencies.
Like hordes of Republicans don't adore Putin and his regime.
Yeah, aha.
And why does, pray-tell, every right winger is having this huge pornographic orgy right now?
I'll tell you why. Because FEDs arrested one guy who lied to Steel while he was compiling his dossier. One fucking guy.
In 2016.
For the dossier that was ordered BY REPUBLICANS.
And that's supposed to absolve him?
As if Donnie's never done anything for Russia after that dossier?
Give me a fucking break. No one can be that stupid.