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12-02-21 03:17 #5444
Posts: 5427Originally Posted by CaliGuy [View Original Post]
If Repubs are so intent upon committing Suicide By Trump's Pandemic Virus and permanently remove themselves from the voter rolls by refusing to get vaxxed, there is nothing Biden can do to stop them. Unless you are suggesting Biden sign an Executive Order requiring every American to get fully vaccinated or be incarcerated.
Is that what you want Biden to do?
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12-01-21 16:39 #5443
Posts: 428Biden Covid Plan
When Biden was campaigning he said Trump did not have a clue on how to handle Covid and he had a plan to end Covid. After millions more have been vaccinated in 2021 and Biden doing nothing no one can figure out what is plan is. The death numbers came out this week and already more people in USA have died in 11 months from Covid than the total for all of 2020. Why are Biden death numbers higher than Trump death numbers?
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12-01-21 16:30 #5442
Posts: 428No I am not saying that
Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
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12-01-21 04:11 #5441
Posts: 2579Harris was bailing them out
Originally Posted by CaliGuy [View Original Post]
When the GOP takes back the house and Senate next year they should impeach her for that.
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12-01-21 03:48 #5440
Posts: 428Ha, Ha, Ha
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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12-01-21 02:28 #5439
Posts: 1604Bfd
Originally Posted by CaliGuy [View Original Post]
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12-01-21 00:36 #5438
Posts: 1947A corrected lie is still a lie
Originally Posted by CaliGuy [View Original Post]
Proposition 47 did not end prosecution of thefts under $950 in California.
CLAIM: Under Proposition 47 in California thefts under $950 will not be prosecuted.
AP ASSESSMENT: False. Proposition 47 was passed in California in 2014 and reclassified felony theft offenses as misdemeanors. It did not allow shoplifting and petty theft to go unprosecuted.
THE FACTS: The false claim about the proposition circulated on social media with a video showing two individuals walking out of a T.J. Maxx in Granada Hills, California, with duffle bags filled with merchandise and their arms filled with clothing on hangers. No one attempted to stop the pair as they walked out of the store and through the parking lot.
The scene was captured on video by another person in the store and circulated widely on news media.
Adam Carolla, a comedian who hosts a podcast, posted the video to Facebook along with a false comment about Proposition 47.
Thanks to Prop 47 thefts under $950 will not be prosecuted, Carolla commented on the post. So cops will not bother showing up. Just a reminder that you get what you voted for, California!
But the post is incorrect. The 2014 proposition modified, but did not eliminate, sentencing for many nonviolent property and drug crimes.
According to Alex Bastian, special advisor to Los Angeles District Attorney George Gascn who co-authored Prop 47, most shoplifting was already prosecuted as a misdemeanor anyway.
What Prop 47 did is increase the dollar amount by which theft can be prosecuted as a felony from $400 to $950 to adjust for inflation and cost of living, Bastian said. But most shoplifting cases are under $400 dollars to begin with, so before Prop 47 and after Prop 47, there isnt any difference.
Proposition 47 was enacted to comply with a 2011 California Supreme Court order, which upheld that Californias overcrowded prisons violated incarcerated individuals Eighth Amendment rights against cruel and unusual punishment.
In 2011, our prisons were bursting at the seams, and California was ranked either first or second behind Texas as having the highest per capita incarceration rate of any state in the country, Kubrin said. It was so bad that the Supreme Court stepped in and told us we needed to reduce our prison population by 33,000 individuals.
So the goal of Prop 47 was to limit our prison population, to reduce the number of people that we send to state prisons, said Kubrin. Prop 47 has achieved that goal while not causing crime rates to go up.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-160551360299
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11-30-21 23:45 #5437
Posts: 1680Chris Christie Interview
Here he at length speaks out against popular Republican lies and conspiracy theories.
https://www.cnn.com/audio/podcasts/a...b-ade70152540b
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11-30-21 19:11 #5436
Posts: 5427Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/penal-code/463/
Penal Code 463 PC - California's "looting" laws. In Penal Code 463 PC, California law defines the crime of looting as taking advantage of a state of emergency to commit burglary, grand theft or petty theft. Looting can be charged as a misdemeanor or a felony and is punishable by up to 3 years in jail.
And, BTW, Tough On Crime Democratic California Governor Gavin Newsom passed a law allowing prosecutors to charge it as a felony regardless of the dollar amount, as is also stated in your link:
Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a law Wednesday aimed at curbing organized retail theft, according to Associated Press reporting. The law allows prosecutors to seek to charge the offense as either a misdemeanor or a felony.
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11-30-21 18:08 #5435
Posts: 5427Originally Posted by CaliGuy [View Original Post]
You think it is just a wild coincidence that every major economic downturn of the past 100 years began on a Repub so-called potus' watch? It is different policies all the time. In Trump's case it was defunding the CDC and pulling out every one of their Pandemic Prevention and Response Teams from those Chinese labs in 2018 against all expert advice not to do something so dangerous, foolish and unnecessary. Then when the experts' warnings did indeed come to fruition in late 2019/ early 2020, he lied to the world about his colossal blunder result being a "Democrat Party HOAX! We've got this under control! There will be NO coronavirus in the Fall (of 2020). " Then he spent a year telling the world "It will go away without a vaccine!
Result? The huge economic Crash, massive USA job losses by the millions and, yep, the inevitable inflation due to his cowardice and lies destroying supply chains all around the world for years afterwards.
For Hoover, Eisenhower, Nixon / Ford, Reagan, Bush1 and Bush2, their huge or multiple Recessions were due to other new and unprecedented methods. But more often than not, as it was with Trump's Economic Disaster, it came down to them either doing nothing when the time and the Dems were begging them to do this or that or finally doing the exact wrong thing in response to a normal otherwise manageable economic cycle: as in being consistently mistaken that cutting taxes disproportionately for top income margins at the expense of all the other margins will create some magical Supply-Side / Trickle-Down economic expansion and jobs creation that NEVER has happened in the history of America and instead does exactly what any intelligent person would predict; it makes the super wealthy even wealthier and everyone else poorer.
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11-30-21 17:54 #5434
Posts: 428I stand corrected
Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
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11-30-21 15:39 #5433
Posts: 1604Why do you keep doing this?
Originally Posted by CaliGuy [View Original Post]
You have brought up the following falsehood several times "It is not a crime to steal under $1000 in a store". This is pure, unadulterated BS. Try reading the following because there aren't many bigly words in it so you should be able to understand. https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-160551360299.
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11-30-21 15:21 #5432
Posts: 4288 years ago
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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11-30-21 02:32 #5431
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
As a homeowner for over 35 years I have greatly enjoyed the boom times when the democrats ran things in Washington.
As well as suffering through the downturns that gloomy republican administrations in the bad times delivered.
Since Joe Biden took office my home value has soared this year.
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11-30-21 01:40 #5430
Posts: 5427Originally Posted by CaliGuy [View Original Post]
"Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded!
LOL.
I lived in California for decades until about 8 years ago. I still have dozens of happy and satisfied friends living in the LOS Angeles area, watching their property values increase significantly annually, their salaries increase, their retirement investments improve substantially, their kids grow and thrive in good schools, active year round in great weather.
Neither I nor any of them ever considered moving out of California because of the junk and problems you apparently found to wallow in and harp on for a single moment. The shittiest times I ever had anywhere in the USA were when Repubs were in the White House having it their way, which meant a Great Repub Crash, Recession and Millions of Jobs wiped out all across the country.