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  1. #5865

    Why

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    LOL. The DOW again. OK, I'll play along:

    Dow Jones Returns by Year

    https://www.slickcharts.com/dowjones/returns

    2020 = +7.25%.

    2019 = +22.34%.

    2018 = -5.63%.

    2017 = +25.08.

    Average annual gain in the DOW during Trump's presidency = 12.26%.

    Really, you guys should have gone with the Wall Street and financial industry standard for measuring the USA Stock market, the S&P 500 Index, instead of the DOW, which is the darling of typically lazy and far less informed and involved financial media. See, the lazy and far less informed financial media, the ones you guys apparently watch on tv and think that makes you "financial advisors", love the DOW because those 30 stocks provide of a lot of exciting volatility to report on every day. But real financial advisors and those involved daily in the canyons of Wall Street more properly refer to the S&P 500 Index for their measure. Just FYI.
    Why didn't you just go to the financial page and click on the Dow and then click on 5 year total and get the real number rather than go to a site that determines it their own way? If you go to the Dow you will have the real number.

  2. #5864

    I was correct

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Election of Biden has definitely made a shift internationally for the USA. USA has gone from the leader of the international scene to a weakling lagging behind. Europe loves a weak USA. NATO loves a weak USA that doesn't force them to pay their fare share as in Trump presidency. China and Russia are ecstatic that they can bully USA. Russia getting their pipeline from a weak America. Biden to scared to even bring up human rights with China. These countries that love the USA are happy to take advantage of our incompetent leader. What a joke that someone would even bring this up.
    I said that Europe is smarter than Republicans and I was correct.

  3. #5863
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Great report. Pretty much sums up what my financial advisors have told me the last year. I use 2 of the 3 biggest firms in USA with 2/3 in one and 1/3 in the other. Both of them would agree with you totally. I use 2 firms because each firm offers different funds to give me more flexibility. Interesting enough about the market is that until 2007 the markets did a little better under democrat presidency than republican presidents but changed when Obama became president. Markets were stable but stagnant under Obama.
    Nope. It didn't change under Obama.

    Klipinger just ran their Wall Street professional and financial industry standard S&P 500 Index measured ranking for the USA Stock Market performance per USA president right up to and including Biden's first year and, as expected, the average annual returns for Biden, Obama and Clinton each surpassed that of Trump, George W. Bush, George H. W. Bush and, what the hell, let's throw Reagan in there too.

    With Biden being best.

    https://www.kiplinger.com/investing/...e-stock-market

  4. #5862
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    81.4 million gun owners vs the anti gun cucks.
    So does that make around 250 million Americans that do not own guns?

    I think so, but not all are voters.

    Those gun owners need to behave themselves.

    Or their asses will get out voted.

  5. #5861

    Something to consider when reading polls

    Gallup poll shows largest increase in Democratic Party affiliation in a decade

    April 7, 2021.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...de/7114860002/

    A Dwindling Republican Party May Be Doomed to Shrink More

    April 8, 2021.

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021...21-gallup.html

    From Gallup comes news that its regular polling on party affiliation shows the largest quarterly gap in major party affiliation since 2012, with 49 percent of U.S. adults identifying themselves as either Democrats (30 percent) or as Democratic-leaning independents (19 percent), while 40 percent call themselves Republicans (25 percent) or Republican-leaning independents (15 percent).
    Yes, these reports were about 9 months ago and a lot has happened in the past 9 months. But the underlying reasons for that major shift have only become more stark.

    So when you see the polls of the past few months, it is worth noting if the polling service simply surveyed a roughly equal number of self-identified Dems, Repubs and Independents. If they did, then they were probably way over-sampling "Repub-leaning" respondents, which is a significantly smaller percentage of the American public and voters than those who are "Dem-leaning."

  6. #5860
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Why do you bother posting irrelevant data. The Dow is officially up 84 per cent in last 5 years. Easy to check on any computer. My portfolio is up 100 per cent. Cali Guy post is totally correct and you are trying to confuse the issue with irrelevant information. Pathetic.
    LOL. The DOW again. OK, I'll play along:

    Dow Jones Returns by Year

    https://www.slickcharts.com/dowjones/returns

    2020 = +7.25%.

    2019 = +22.34%.

    2018 = -5.63%.

    2017 = +25.08.

    Average annual gain in the DOW during Trump's presidency = 12.26%.

    Really, you guys should have gone with the Wall Street and financial industry standard for measuring the USA Stock market, the S&P 500 Index, instead of the DOW, which is the darling of typically lazy and far less informed and involved financial media. See, the lazy and far less informed financial media, the ones you guys apparently watch on tv and think that makes you "financial advisors", love the DOW because those 30 stocks provide of a lot of exciting volatility to report on every day. But real financial advisors and those involved daily in the canyons of Wall Street more properly refer to the S&P 500 Index for their measure. Just FYI.

  7. #5859
    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy  [View Original Post]
    Obviously you are uneducated in the financial world and are not involved in it. Dow was just over 18,000 January 2017 and it is now 36000. The market was consistent in 2018 between 23,000 to 27,000 with solid growth. That is about 100 per cent increase. My clients have done really well. They are happy and I get referrals daily. My clients invest for long term wealth. The building of wealth is better with fluctuations in the market. Every correction is an opportunity to buy. Market crashing from Covid actually helped their portfolios because they were able to buy depressed stocks.

    Obviously you have no clue on investing and have not capitalized on the market to date. If you are making investments in the market when republicans are in power then you are not participating in the market. If you were one of the stupid ones and I had a few clients like that who sold all their portfolio when Trump became president you lost big time. I had 2 clients who sold everything when Trump became president. $1,500,000 and $2,400,000 portfolios that now would be $3,000,000 and $5,000,000 portfolios.
    I realize I am talking to a self-proclaimed financial advisor who never noticed the difference between a Great Repub Depression / Recession, Massive Jobs Destruction and Deep Bear Market Crash, which has been all of them over the past 100 years, vs a Great Dem Recovery / Expansion, Massive Jobs Creation and Historic Bull Market Run, which has been all of them over the past 100 years. But the fact that you focus on the 30 stocks in the DOW as the go-to measure for how well the broad USA Stock market is doing is further proof you really should return whatever money your client wasted on you.

    Yes, of course, all of those Great Repub Depressions / Recessions and Deep Bear Market Crashes of the past 100 years, the only ones America has suffered in all that time, were lovely buying opportunities for anyone who got out at the top, did not stay in the market to ride it all the way down and was flush with cash to buy back in at the bottom. Thanks for the kind of advice that anyone could have gotten on the back of a Bazooka Bubble Gum comic; Buy low and sell high. Really? But based on this and every other post of yours, I am quite sure your advice did not get your client out of the market at the top and have them wait until some unknown bottom to buy back in more often than perhaps one inadvertent lucky time.

    And actually, you only told us half of the scenario for your supposedly failed clients. I mean, you do know there is another side of those transactions, right? If those clients had sold out when Trump came into office and then bought back in at or near the bottom of each of his two Bear Market Crashes, they would have done quite well vs buying and holding through 4 years of the average annual 16.8% gains we got during his Recession and Massive Jobs Loss-ridden four years in the Wall Street and industry standard for the broader USA Stock market, the S&P 500 Index. Did they?

  8. #5858

    Not Fake News.

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2...rump-to-biden/

    "The election of Joe Biden as president has led to a dramatic shift in America's international image. Throughout Donald Trump's presidency, publics around the world held the United States in low regard, with most opposed to his foreign policies. This was especially true among key American allies and partners. Now, a new Pew Research Center survey of 16 publics finds a significant uptick in ratings for the USA, with strong support for Biden and several of his major policy initiatives. "

    Just look at the charts in the article.

    The cultists will say that this is all "fake news" of course and will use whataboutism to "prove it".
    It isn't fake news.

    Not only Europe by China, Russia, Iran and North Korea all love USA now that Biden is president. It is the best case possible for them because Biden is not capable of holding these countries accountable like Trump did. With Trump USA was a powerhouse internationally but unfortunately now the weakling getting pushed around like we saw in the last 12 months. Glad you brought this up.

  9. #5857

    Election of Biden has created a great shift internationally

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2...rump-to-biden/

    "The election of Joe Biden as president has led to a dramatic shift in America's international image. Throughout Donald Trump's presidency, publics around the world held the United States in low regard, with most opposed to his foreign policies. This was especially true among key American allies and partners. Now, a new Pew Research Center survey of 16 publics finds a significant uptick in ratings for the USA, with strong support for Biden and several of his major policy initiatives. "

    Just look at the charts in the article.

    The cultists will say that this is all "fake news" of course and will use whataboutism to "prove it".
    Election of Biden has definitely made a shift internationally for the USA. USA has gone from the leader of the international scene to a weakling lagging behind. Europe loves a weak USA. NATO loves a weak USA that doesn't force them to pay their fare share as in Trump presidency. China and Russia are ecstatic that they can bully USA. Russia getting their pipeline from a weak America. Biden to scared to even bring up human rights with China. These countries that love the USA are happy to take advantage of our incompetent leader. What a joke that someone would even bring this up.

  10. #5856
    Currently reading this book. Anyone else ?

    https://www.amazon.com/Changing-Worl...H&keywords=the+changing+world+order+ray+dalio&qid=1641422816&sprefix=the+changing+%2 Caps%2 C134&sr=8-1.

  11. #5855

    Cautionary tale alert, 400 million guns

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    What else is new?

    The long, dangerous history of right-wing calls for violence and civil war

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ence-civil-war
    81.4 million gun owners vs the anti gun cucks.

    My money is on the gun owners!

    The 2 A provides for recourse when elections / democracy are being stolen!!

    https://www.google.com/search?q=american+gun+owners&source=hp&ei=FRfWYdm3 JO2 iptQP4 aaZ6 Ag&iflsig=ALs-wAMAAAAAYdYlJQfk3 i74 HAUEeFCZzcyDlgi1 ahHJ&ved=0 ahUKEwiZlvWN0 Jv1 AhVtkYkEHWFTBo0 Q4 dUDCAk&uact=5&oq=american+gun+owners&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3 Mtd2 l6 EAMyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEOhEILhCABBCxAxCDARDHARDRAzoLCAAQgAQQsQMQgwE6 CAguELEDEIMBOgUILhCABDoOCC4 QgAQQsQMQxwEQ0 QM6 DgguEIAEELEDEMcBEKMCOgsILhCABBDHARCjAjoICAAQgAQQsQM6 CwguEIAEELEDEIMBOggILhCABBCxAzoOCC4 QgAQQsQMQxwEQrwE6 CwguEIAEEMcBEK8 BOgcIABCxAxAKOgoIABCxAxCxAxAKUABYpx9 g4 CBoAHAAeACAAcoEiAG0 K5 IBCzEuNS43 LjEuMi4 zmAEAoAEB&sclient=gws-wiz.

    There are estimated to be over 400 million guns in the United States between police, the military, and American civilians. Over 393 Million (Over 98%) of those guns are in civilian hands, the equivalent of 120 firearms per 100 citizens. The average gun owning American has 5 firearms, while nearly 22% of gun owners only have a single firearm.

  12. #5854

    Pew Research proves that all Europeans are smarter than Republicans

    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2...rump-to-biden/

    "The election of Joe Biden as president has led to a dramatic shift in America's international image. Throughout Donald Trump's presidency, publics around the world held the United States in low regard, with most opposed to his foreign policies. This was especially true among key American allies and partners. Now, a new Pew Research Center survey of 16 publics finds a significant uptick in ratings for the USA, with strong support for Biden and several of his major policy initiatives. "

    Just look at the charts in the article.

    The cultists will say that this is all "fake news" of course and will use whataboutism to "prove it".

  13. #5853

    Elvis Flat Earth Analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Oh please. The protestors killed no one. There was video of police letting protestors in. The only person killed was a protestor. A cop dies of a stroke and the lamestrain media says for months that the protestors did him in. The most famous guy there, the one with the weird buffalo hat, who sat on Nancy Pelosi's throne was actively talking with a cop in the room.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_U...Capitol_attack

    1 person was killed (a protestor) but 4 others died, one from an overdose and 3 from natural causes so let's skip over the deaths. You conveniently forgot to mention that 138 police officers were injured. Why do I think that if this had been a "Black Lives Matter" protest or something you would call a leftist group and 138 police officers were injured you would be howling like a mad dog that these creatures have to be held accountable. The rule of law yadda yadda yadda.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    The FBI did the Russiagate thing which is something you douches still believe is true. Putin fixed the election! What other reason could there be?
    As usual, you have selective memory. Didn't the Directer of the FBI (James Comey) announce that the FBI was still actively investigating Hillary Clinton's emails just 11 days before the election? When has the FBI ever made an announcement about an ongoing investigation? And less than 2 weeks before the election?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    And you make it out like some fringe faction thinks the election was stolen when 47% of Americans including 30% of Democrats think it was. I knew Georgia was going Dems in the senate race after I saw what happened there in the presidential election. It was a no-brainer.

    My take on the whole thing was fighting it was a waste of time. No judge even the gutless Supreme Court was going to take this on. They were bashed just for following the law in Florida for GW Bush. And now if you do not watch the videos of police actively assisting protestors, you are delusional. This was every bit as staged as Russiagate was.
    The best polling done on whether there was voter fraud was done by Monmouth University and they conducted several polls each a few months apart. 32% is the number (not your 47% fantasy number).

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...***-fraud-poll

    By the way didn't the Trump Appointed Attorney General William Barr announce that the Justice Department had conducted an investigation and there was "no evidence of widespread voter fraud that would have changed the outcome of the election. ". That announcement coming from a complete Trump lackey, makes it surprising that some conspiracy theorists continue to champion this absurd claim.

    https://apnews.com/article/barr-no-w...1a9061a6c7f49d

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    .........And now we have fossils like Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer. No wonder our economy has gone to shit. So tell me PV, when have you voted for a Republican?
    Oh and on the subject of fossils I'm surprised you overlooked a few others like Chucky Grassley, Richard Shelby, and Jim Inhofe. Inhofe is really quite famous for tossing a snowball during a Senate session to support his claim that climate change doesn't exist. I was expecting him to eat a hot-dog and claim that World Hunger didn't exist either.

  14. #5852

    Irrelevant

    EihTooms;2647032][QUOTE=CaliGuy;2646844]I am a financial advisor for a major firm in San Diego. Our firm does not give any Credit to the current administration for increased market prices. In fact it rarely gives credit for good or bad in the market to any administration. The market increased dramatically in 2017,2018 and 2029 when Trump reversed a lot of Obama regulations especially for energy industry and financial industry. By end of 2019 China virus hit the world and business stopped in USA and the world. After a bleak 2020 and 3 vaccines hitting consumers in late 2020 it was expected that the market would stabilize and return to the gains made from 2017-2019 and it did. Since the new virus is less deadly than the last the market is stable. No credit is given to current administration. With the BBB virtually non existent now and Biden facing an election year our firm is expecting stable market. Most of my clients are 401 k and retirement funds so last 5 years have been extremely good. Once Biden tried destroying the oil industry we saw an increased opportunity for our clients in oil stocks once the administration drove down production and drove up oil and gas prices. Our average return on the energy side for oil was 68 per cent. For the wealthy and middle class who funded their 401 K to the max 2021 was a good year. It is an election year and the democrats are going to try to jam some socialist program or green program through but we do not expect that to happen. Expect a slight correction in March when feds raise interest rates for first time in years. / QUOTE]Really, this post is such a cornucopia of delights, I can't resist another reply. LOL.

    Aside from his historic 2018 CDC defunding disaster and his incomparable contributions to creating Trump's Pandemic in the first place, you do remember that Trump's lamebrained policies slammed the USA Manufacturing and Agro sector, right? Gee, we're all happy that he further subsidized the oil and energy sectors. Those poor dears need all the additional subsidies and corporate welfare they can get.

    Meanwhile, thanks to his zero gain trade war against China, Trump had to send more Socialist welfare checks to USA Farmers just to keep them afloat:

    [be]Administration announces $12 billion in aid to farmers hurt by Trump's trade war.

    The president tweeted on Tuesday that "Tariffs are the greatest!" Farmers don't think so. [ / be].

    July 6, 2018.

    http://<a href="https://www.nbcnews....ar-n894066</a>.

    And he drove the USA Manufacturing sector directly into Recession:

    Manufacturing 'in a recession', Fed's data show[ / be].

    July 16,2019.

    http://<a href="https://www.marketwa...2019-07-16</a>.

    Yep, all pre Trump's Pandemic, Mr. Financial Advisor.

    Why do you bother posting irrelevant data. The Dow is officially up 84 per cent in last 5 years. Easy to check on any computer. My portfolio is up 100 per cent. Cali Guy post is totally correct and you are trying to confuse the issue with irrelevant information. Pathetic.

  15. #5851
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    I support full scale civil war.
    What else is new?

    The long, dangerous history of right-wing calls for violence and civil war

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ence-civil-war

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