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  1. #5970

    You can't unsay it, LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    It is 0.25 per cent not 25 per cent. Most people pay about 1 per cent. You obviously don't know anything about fees in the market. And my portfolio gain is 70 per cent after fees during the Trump presidency which is higher than in any other presidency.
    Most people indeed pay 0. 5-1% of AUM (if that's the scheme you're talking about), but it seems you're not one of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    This is the reason you pay good financial advisors. I do not ever complain paying a 25 percent commission every year for 4 years to make 68 percent. You get what you pay for.
    And one thing I do know "about fees in the market" is that only the king of suckers would pay his financial advisor a 25% commission.

  2. #5969

    Absolutely not

    Quote Originally Posted by Gino02  [View Original Post]
    What's your point? Biden's virus management plans working or not?
    Absolutely not! He is totally lost on what needs to be done.

  3. #5968

    Portfolio gains

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I know, I know! Unbelievable, right?

    That Canada dude was robbed, reamed and abandoned by investment sharks worse than anyone I have heard or read about since Bernie Madoff. I assume they are also the ones who convinced him he ought to be proud of that 70% gain in those 4 Trump years, how thrilled any investor would be to do so well and all that typical con artist pitch. LOL.

    What could those 200 stocks they bamboozled him into buying possibly be if 70% was the best return he ever got during a presidency in the past 40 years? Has to be of companies thrown together by their brother-in-law and almost certainly paying those sharks hefty kick-backs for putting their sucker clients into them. Oh well. There are many such stories because there are many such suckers.

    A blind-folded chimp throwing 200 darts at a list of stocks in the S&P 500 would have earned better gains on them just during each of the 264% gain Clinton and 235% gain Obama presidencies in the past 29 years..
    Portfolio gains are always after fees but obviously you didn't know that because your only source of income is government subsistence. If Jimmy Carter years we're your best years I know exactly why you can't afford to live in USA. I would bet that my 5 year old grandson has more invested in market than you.

  4. #5967

    Typo

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    You were the one who said 25%. So either you lied when you said it or you can't proofread and didn't bother to correct what you said.

    Which one is it?
    Typo but everyone knows that fees aren't 25.

  5. #5966

    Who said 25%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    It is 0.25 per cent not 25 per cent. Most people pay about 1 per cent. You obviously don't know anything about fees in the market. And my portfolio gain is 70 per cent after fees during the Trump presidency which is higher than in any other presidency.
    You were the one who said 25%. So either you lied when you said it or you can't proofread and didn't bother to correct what you said.

    Which one is it?

  6. #5965
    Quote Originally Posted by Gino02  [View Original Post]
    What's your point? Biden's virus management plans working or not?
    Of course they are working to keep any American smart enough to take the vaccines Biden made free and available to them from getting seriously ill, requiring hospitalization or dying from Trump's Pandemic virus in all its variations.

    Any and all tests we have for now are thanks to Biden and every Dem who voted Yes on the American Rescue Plan. All shortages are to be blamed on the Repubs who didn't even bother to participate, didn't support a greater number of them be included in the bill and didn't bother to earn their pay for a change.

  7. #5964
    Quote Originally Posted by Villainy  [View Original Post]
    You are saying you paid a 25% commission every year for 4 years and netted a 68% return over the 4 years? Where in the world do you pay a 25% commission annually? People who actually invest pick mutual funds or ETFs and pay 1% (sometimes a tiny bit more or a little less). Index funds (like Fidelity's Admiral Fund charge something like 0. 10% Even with professional investment advisors 25% commissions don't exist and only someone making it would make that claim.
    I know, I know! Unbelievable, right?

    That Canada dude was robbed, reamed and abandoned by investment sharks worse than anyone I have heard or read about since Bernie Madoff. I assume they are also the ones who convinced him he ought to be proud of that 70% gain in those 4 Trump years, how thrilled any investor would be to do so well and all that typical con artist pitch. LOL.

    What could those 200 stocks they bamboozled him into buying possibly be if 70% was the best return he ever got during a presidency in the past 40 years? Has to be of companies thrown together by their brother-in-law and almost certainly paying those sharks hefty kick-backs for putting their sucker clients into them. Oh well. There are many such stories because there are many such suckers.

    A blind-folded chimp throwing 200 darts at a list of stocks in the S&P 500 would have earned better gains on them just during each of the 264% gain Clinton and 235% gain Obama presidencies in the past 29 years.

    And that chimp would have done it for a banana, not robbing him of 25% commissions from the apparently relatively paltry gains he made during those historic Dem president Bull Runs!

    Investors dumb enough to pay 3-7% commissions when they don't even have to in order to do very well in the market are laughable. But 25%! That isn't even funny. It's criminal.

    Yeah, I started with Fidelity in 1986 with the fantastic 401 k offered by the Fortune 500 company I worked for, thanks to Jimmy Carter insisting it be included in his 1978 budget to require companies to offer that amazingly rewarding tax deferred investment tool to every employee and not just to the top management.

    Thanks, Jimmy.

    And then I rolled it over into an IRA with Vanguard when I retired about 20 years later in my 50's, flush and ready to travel and fuck 4-5 different young Thai girls every week for my second half.

    Again, thanks, Jimmy, Bill and Barack. Coming up strong so far, Joe.

    No thanks whatsoever to Ronnie, George1, George2 and Donnie, of course.

  8. #5963
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    Funny how well you anti American loony leftists parrot what you hear, I wrote dog catcher here 3 days ago and within less than 48 hrs someone else.

    Picked it up and used it, I'm guessing this is what all of you do, watch Msnbc and memorize what is said for the day.

    And repeat the talking points verbatim, like a good lamb would do.

    And try to turn ISG into an echo chamber for are maddow et al from Msnbc LOL.
    In other words.

    He has no complaints or point.

  9. #5962

    0.25 percent

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Holy crap! You paid those scammers a 25% commission on a 68% gain in the stock market? And that 68% - 70% was your biggest gain under any president in 40 years?

    So you missed out on the 235% gain in the broad USA Stock market under Obama and the 264% gain under Clinton.

    Man, that is pathetic. Seriously, you need to have those con artists charging you 25% commissions arrested, not merely fired.

    Ok, I'm going to give you the best stock market investment advice anyone has apparently given you in 40 years. And I won't charge you anything for it; open an account at Vanguard. The expense ratios for all of their funds range from 0.10% to 0.60%. Yes, you read that right. Less than 1%! Not 25%. To anyone!

    The Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund, VTSAX, will cost you no more than about..
    It is 0.25 per cent not 25 per cent. Most people pay about 1 per cent. You obviously don't know anything about fees in the market. And my portfolio gain is 70 per cent after fees during the Trump presidency which is higher than in any other presidency.

  10. #5961
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    I will take my 70 percent gain on my portfolio on the make believe crash of Trumps 4 year presidency every day of my life. I hope Biden crash does half that well.

    Most Americans will take the great economies of Reagan and Trump rather the the failures and inflation of Carter and Biden. No contest. The republicans, independents and the smart democrats agree with me. The dumb democrats and socialists will try to refute it.
    Very well put!

  11. #5960
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    LOL. It's hilarious to watch Repub Senators whose Repub base is dying at multiple times Dems from Trump's Pandemic virus railing against Biden's Trump's Pandemic response team at the Senate hearings, especially with regard to test shortages, after every Repub in Congress voted to defund every federal response to Trump's Pandemic when Biden's American Rescue Plan was passed without a single Repub vote for it or so much as demanding funds be increased anywhere in it.

    That's where the funding for all the tests and distribution of tests came from.

    It's reminiscent of the phony Repub outrage over non existent Dem "defunding the police" after Repubs and only Repubs in the House voted unanimously to defund the police! LOL.
    What's your point? Biden's virus management plans working or not?

  12. #5959

    Dog catcher

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    Who cares if an undocumented immigrant gets to vote for dog catcher!

    Please provide sources that say that NY will allow undocumented immigrants to vote in Federal elections.
    Funny how well you anti American loony leftists parrot what you hear, I wrote dog catcher here 3 days ago and within less than 48 hrs someone else.

    Picked it up and used it, I'm guessing this is what all of you do, watch Msnbc and memorize what is said for the day.

    And repeat the talking points verbatim, like a good lamb would do.

    And try to turn ISG into an echo chamber for are maddow et al from Msnbc LOL.

  13. #5958
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    This is the reason you pay good financial advisors. I do not ever complain paying a 25 percent commission every year for 4 years to make 68 percent. You get what you pay for.
    You are saying you paid a 25% commission every year for 4 years and netted a 68% return over the 4 years? Where in the world do you pay a 25% commission annually? People who actually invest pick mutual funds or ETFs and pay 1% (sometimes a tiny bit more or a little less). Index funds (like Fidelity's Admiral Fund charge something like 0. 10% Even with professional investment advisors 25% commissions don't exist and only someone making it would make that claim.

  14. #5957

    Sir C. B. Strikes again

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Wrong again. Arizona plus a couple other states counted their votes after hours when no republicans were present.
    https://amgreatness.com/2022/01/10/t...edia-alliance/

  15. #5956
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    I will try to explain the stock market to people who totally do not understand or totally don't invest in the market. All indexes were up in the USA market an average of 68 percent during the Trump presidency. That does not mean that my portfolio goes up 68 percent as I don't own every stock in the market and a portion of my portfolio is in tax free bonds. I only own about 200 individual stocks of which about 50 percent of them pay dividends from. 3 to 7 percent. My portfolio went up 70 per cent on stock price increases, dividends and interest in the 4 years Trump was president. This was my biggest gain under any president in the last 40 years. I know you can't relate to this because you do not invest in the market as your posts indicate. It doesn't matter what happened in the past. In retrospect I never had a loss in any 4 years of any presidency in last 40 years but obviously some are better than others. I like many savvy investors made huge returns under Biden when he tried to kill the oil and gas industry, created a shortage and crude and natural gas doubled in price in one year. This is the reason you pay good financial advisors. I do not ever complain paying a 25 percent commission every year for 4 years to make 68 percent. You get what you pay for.
    Holy crap! You paid those scammers a 25% commission on a 68% gain in the stock market? And that 68% - 70% was your biggest gain under any president in 40 years?

    So you missed out on the 235% gain in the broad USA Stock market under Obama and the 264% gain under Clinton.

    Man, that is pathetic. Seriously, you need to have those con artists charging you 25% commissions arrested, not merely fired.

    Ok, I'm going to give you the best stock market investment advice anyone has apparently given you in 40 years. And I won't charge you anything for it; open an account at Vanguard. The expense ratios for all of their funds range from 0.10% to 0.60%. Yes, you read that right. Less than 1%! Not 25%. To anyone!

    The Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund, VTSAX, will cost you no more than about.

    0.40% per year to maintain and service it. You don't need to pay a commission to a broker, a self-described "financial advisor", a priest or anyone else other than that. And you will never get robbed of 25% by any con man or thief.

    Had you been in that simple, no-brainer, extremely low cost, low tax, beautifully diversified Index Fund over the past 40 years you would have gained all but about 0.40% of those 235% and 264% Dem presidency gains and kept a hell of a lot more of that middling 68% - 70% under Trump.

    You're welcome.

    Oh, and before you have the scammers who have been steamrolling you for the past 40 years fired and arrested, let them know that as of today's close the industry standard reference S&P 500 Index is only off about 2.3% from its all time closing high and the amusing but far less useful for that measure DOW is only off about 1.85%.

    Not that they are in the business to know or care about such things. Their only challenge is to locate suckers happy and eager to pay 25% commissions for godknowswhat nonsense they're peddling you. I assume they troll those Trump MAGA rallies for their most likely marks.

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