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01-22-22 16:50 #6134
Posts: 1604Alex, I'll take the 5th for $200
Originally Posted by ScatManDoo [View Original Post]
Committee: "Is your name Ivanka Trump?
Ivanka: "I refuse to answer that question and I assert my 5th Amendment rights. "
Committee: "Is Donald J. Trump your father?
Ivanka: "I refuse to answer that question and I assert my 5th Amendment rights. "
Committee: "Were you in the White House on January 6th, 2021?
Ivanka: "I refuse to answer that question and I assert my 5th Amendment rights. "
Committee: asking questions 4 - ?
Ivanka: "I refuse to answer that question and I assert my 5th Amendment rights. "
We all need to remember that the one-term, twice-impeached orange clown said that only the mob uses the 5th Amendment and it makes them look guilty. Right, Canada?
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01-22-22 16:43 #6133
Posts: 10682100 points. 5.7%
Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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01-22-22 16:35 #6132
Posts: 1068Distraction
Originally Posted by ScatManDoo [View Original Post]
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01-22-22 15:40 #6131
Posts: 714Post Pandemic
Politics should not be all black and white. Trump is evil. Biden is good. Therefore when a liberal or conservative speaks to truth it should be noted.
https://youtu.be/8bQ2rctogOs
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01-22-22 08:15 #6130
Posts: 5446Originally Posted by Paulie97 [View Original Post]
See, the term "presided over" is extremely useful in assessing what a POTUS does in response to Recessionary conditions. So we not only need to mark when 13 of the 17 Recessions of the past 100 years began, sorry Woodrow, but what did or didn't the POTUS do about it.
Clearly, the WWII, post-WWII and high unemployment rate plus "Long National Nightmare" conditions Carter inherited from Nixon / Ford along with the rising inflation problem were far more challenging than anything in the economy facing Eisenhower in 1953.
History then shows in addition to the 3 Recessions that began on his watch, he "presided" over one of the lowest and most "atriocious" 8 year average annual jobs growth percetages ever.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs...idential_terms
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01-22-22 07:31 #6129
Posts: 5446Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
I wonder if we will finally hit at least one legitimate "Correction" level sometime soon. Which would be perfectly normal and, frankly, welcome after we've had some 70 all-time record high closes in just Biden's first year in office.
Oh, according to the 30 stocks in the Dow Jones Industrial Average, we're currently down 7. 2%, which is even further away from a useful, health-restoring "Correction" in the market.
BTW, was that where you got that "1500 points" number?
Well, if we're simply calculating from the first of this year, your way, the market is only down 3. 2% in the Dow and 7. 7% in the S&P, neither of which is nearly as terrifying as you presumably meant it to sound.
But I can't think of a very good reason to start calculating the rise or decline in the market starting from January 1 instead of from its recent all-time record closing high or low as would be done by anyone with as much instructive knowledge about the stock market as you purport to have.
What was your reasoning for doing it that way?
Well, actually, talking about these things in terms of "points" instead of percentages isn't very useful anyway. Particularly when we're talking about a market that has been growing in points for many, many decades.
You know how that works, right? For example, a market decline of, say, "3 points" from an all-time record high close of 6 points in an Index is much, much scarier and worse than a decline of 3,000 points in an Index that reached an all-time record high close of 36,952.
See what I mean? Just sayin'.
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01-22-22 05:05 #6128
Posts: 1604Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
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01-22-22 04:43 #6127
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
They gave her a very long letter hinting at what the committee knows she witnessed and wrote they want to confirm what she said (according to reports of others).
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01-22-22 02:43 #6126
Posts: 1680Xpartan
"Presided over?" Don't let Tooms frame the argument by selling you loaded terms. A number of Democratic presidents "presided over" recessions including Wilson, Truman, and Carter. Heck he even tries to blame Lincoln for the Civil War because he was a Republican, when there was nothing he could do otherwise besides let the southern states go. Tooms is a partisan hack loudly working day and month out with a false dichotomy, Democrats all good, Republicans all bad even stretching back to the Civil War. It's absurd, and betrays someone familiar with hack internet sources as opposed to history. I hate to agree with Elvis (Elvira) but he has him pegged on this one, though he is just as idiotic from the other angle.
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01-22-22 02:08 #6125
Posts: 5446Originally Posted by Paulie97 [View Original Post]
You further assert that I listed any of Eisenhower's 3 Recessions in his 8 years in office among the half dozen or so Great Repub Recessions of the past 100 years?
And you conjured up all that in order to "Bothsider" me pretty much the same as someone who claims there were no Recessions and no Bear Market Crashes under any Repub in the past 50 years, nor has Biden's policies created any jobs but Trump's economic decisions and results were much better.
Uh. Ok.
I submit this to the court as Exhibit A for how "Bothsiderism" exists solely to help the utterly wrongheaded look like a reasonable option, perhaps worth no less consideration than a coin flip in a voting booth, inevitably giving them at least a 50-50 shot at producing more of their patented disastrous results.
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01-22-22 01:00 #6124
Posts: 1068Nothing
Originally Posted by ScatManDoo [View Original Post]
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01-22-22 00:57 #6123
Posts: 1068Market is down 1500 points this year already
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
Unfit for president because he Has Dementia!
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01-21-22 22:38 #6122
Posts: 2344Donald Trump is a criminal and he belongs in jail
The January 6th insurrection investigative committee got great news from the Supreme Court yesterday.
They told TrumpShit NO NO NO to his lame claim of executive privilege as he tries to hide his seditious behavior that got into the record.
Hundreds of pages from the archives were delivered the same day after the SCOTUS 8-1 decision. (Proving once again that Clarence Thomas is a legal lightweight).
But the bipartisan investigative committee has enough already.
They have interviewed dozens of lower level White House staffers that have already testified to the committee as to what was said and done.
It does not matter if the higher level folks try to be silent.
Liz Cheney & the other committee members already have the goods on what went down, and it was criminal.
Donald Trump is a criminal and he belongs in jail.
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01-21-22 22:16 #6121
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
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01-21-22 22:01 #6120
Posts: 1955Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
EihTooms not only provided the data but also the link so you could verify his statement.
If you disagree with his statement or the source, the grown-up response would be to explain why.
You could insist, for example, that the OP was incorrect and there haven't been 17 recessions presided over by the Republicans.
Of course, as a grown-up, you would be expected to substantiate your rebuttal with a coherent and persuading argument. Calling it a fairytale is not it.
Are you a grown-up, Mr. Canada?
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]
And yet, you don't seem to be able to distinguish a yes / no question from a WH question. Here, allow me to help.
My question was: "What specific answers convinced you he's unfit for president"?
What do you say? Try again?