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10-22-21 14:25 #5046
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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10-22-21 05:19 #5045
Posts: 5450Originally Posted by HoustonPlayer [View Original Post]
There is a huge difference between preventing "infection" (as I explained in my previous post), which many vaccines don't do very well, and preventing "serious illness or death", which so far the vaccines Biden made easily available for free to every American continue to do very well over time:
Vaccines show declining effectiveness against infection overall but strong protection against hospitalization amid delta variant.
Results from a trio of studies, published in the CDCs weekly report, motivated the Biden administration to consider booster shots
Aug. 18,2021.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...effectiveness/
Three studies published Wednesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that protection against the coronavirus given by vaccines declined in the midsummer months when the more contagious delta variant rose to dominance in the United States.
At the same time, protection against hospitalization was strong for weeks after vaccination, indicating the shots will generate immune fighters that stave off the worst effects of the virus and its current variations.
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Examining numerous cohorts through the end of July and early August, three points are now very clear, CDC director Rochelle Walensky said at a White House covid-19 news briefing Wednesday. First, vaccine-induced protection against SARS-CoV-2 infection begins to decrease over time. Second, vaccine effectiveness against severe disease, hospitalization and death remains relatively high. And third, vaccine effectiveness is generally decreased against the delta variant.
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The third report, an analysis of patients at 21 hospitals in 18 states, found sustained protection against hospitalization. Effectiveness was steady at 86 percent, even in the midsummer months when delta outcompeted other variants of concern. For adults who do not have compromised immune systems, that effectiveness stood at 90 percent.
Sept. 1, 2021
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/01/are-covid-vaccines-becoming-less-effective-.html
Covid-19 vaccines are still stunningly effective despite fears that immunity may dwindle over time, experts have said.
There have been some concerns about the efficacy of Covid-19 vaccines after a number of recent studies indicated a growing number of breakthrough Covid cases among the fully vaccinated.
Studies have shown that the fully vaccinated are still highly protected against severe infection, hospitalization and death caused by the virus.
By Reuters Fact Check, Aug. 6, 2021
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaccine-reduce-idUSL1N2PC2O9
In the U.S., unvaccinated people represent nearly 97% of severe cases, according to the White House COVID-19 Response Team (here).
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10-22-21 04:17 #5044
Posts: 341Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]
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10-22-21 03:44 #5043
Posts: 1604No clue
Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1 [View Original Post]
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10-22-21 03:11 #5042
Posts: 5450Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
No, it works on the premise that the virus WILL someday enter your body via whatever orifice that particular virus prefers (at which point you WILL possibly test positive for it, btw) but that WHEN it does your body will have by then built up an effective immune response to it strong enough to prevent it from overwhelming your bodily functions, making you very, very sick, requiring hospitalization, taking up beds and staff attention that ordinary non virus-related injuries and sicknesses for which there are NO effective vaccines may require or dying from it.
Ya' see, that is why more positive COVID-19 test cases would naturally be expected in the population after more people are vaccinated and are no longer being as careful about wearing masks, social distancing and so on since, lo' and behold, their getting vaccinated has made it so their chances of getting very sick, requiring hospitalization and/or dying WHEN the virus enters their body is very small, even if they are in their 60's, 70's, 80's etc. Unless they have an immunity response weakening condition like Multiple Myeloma as Colin Powell had.
Hey, guess what, the measles virus, chicken pox virus and other viruses still exist! And we are all still exposed to them! Whoever told you they don't exist anymore because they were "wiped out" by vaccines is the one who sold you a bill of goods. However, since I have been vaccinated against measles, chicken pox and so on, I won't get sick, break out in bumps or shingles or experience any other signs of illness WHEN I am exposed to those viruses.
Sorry, there is no magical, invisible, protective bubble around my body keeping those viruses away from me and preventing me from getting sick from them. The vaccines I took as a kid caused my body to accomplish that fantastic response.
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10-21-21 22:07 #5041
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
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10-21-21 18:26 #5040
Posts: 1604So you admit it?
Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
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10-21-21 18:22 #5039
Posts: 1604Who cares
Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
I have no idea why people post falsehoods when a 5-second internet search proves them wrong. https://www.newsbreak.com/news/24074...eness-is-a-lie..
Fox News host Tucker Carlson admitted to omitting Colin Powell's health complications after using his death to rail against the effectiveness of coronavirus vaccines. On Monday, Carlson led his show with the news from Powell's family that he died of Covid complications at the age of 84. Carlson honed in on the fact that the former secretary of state died despite being fully vaccinated against Covid, saying "that fact does not make his death any less sad nor is it unusual. Many thousands of vaccinated Americans have died of Covid."
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10-21-21 18:14 #5038
Posts: 2579The lady "projects" way way too much me thinks
But we all know that he will cry "fake news" 'cause the QOP fascists always yell lgenpresse. When confronted with the truth.
And he is still using his favorite short bus term "douche" to refer to anybody with a brain.
Lugenpresse? Seriously? Every time I post something with a link that isn't NYT or MSNBC the fools on the left that wouldn't dare attack the substance of the article rather.
They try to attack and discredit the source ala Newsmax Fox or anything that doesn't agree with their retarded agenda aka lugenpresse.
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10-21-21 17:02 #5037
Posts: 199Ummm
You realize that while all of you argue yourselves into a civil war like tizzy and have not been paying attention.
The Chinese have hacked all your credit profiles, text messages, millions of medical records, phone records, financial records, and now have millions of you under facial recognition. They also have surpassed you by far in AI that makes military spending head towards irrelevance.
Our intelligence community has an understanding that at this time there is probably a Chinese Dossier on every American citizen.
In another words. While the infighting never ends and you look at your fellow citizen as your enemy your lunch has been eaten.
Maybe that was by design.
Democrats or Republicans it won't really matter. Your still the advisory of the Chinese communist party and they have beaten you by exploiting your beating on each other from within.
Now let's get back to mongering and enjoy puss while we can.
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10-21-21 11:22 #5036
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
We have been sold a bill of goods. The promise was that this "vaccine" would wipe out the virus, like the measles, smallpox, rubella and other real vaccines, and we would get back to normal. It was a complete and utter fraud and a lie. Fauci lied again, just like his claim that you could get AIDS from a cereal box. He needs to be removed from office and criminally investigated for his mendacity and his funding of the virus in the first place.
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10-21-21 11:17 #5035
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
The answer is no. The wealthy donors didn't social distance at the table, and of course after the meal they were mingling with each other. The reason they didn't wear masks is to show that they are the elites to whom the rules do not apply, while their servants must be vaxed, masked and chipped like pets. Or perhaps more accurately, cattle.
Seriously, Pelosi is 80 years old. We've all seen the scare stories about people her age. Yet she doesn't wear a mask when the cameras are off; she goes maskless to the salon (in secret) and has huge maskless donor events at her vast estate (how did a government official get so rich? Hmm, ask Maxine Waters I guess? Why isn't she as terrified of dying from covid as she insists all the little people should be?
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10-21-21 11:10 #5034
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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10-21-21 07:45 #5033
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
By contrast, when browsing through the internet, most people simply glance at news headlines without clicking the link and reading the whole thing. If they do click it, many will only read the first paragraph or two. That is why the fake news bury most important information that goes against The Narrative down at the very bottom, if they mention it at all.
As for saying "covid complications", most casual readers will just see "covid". A more truthful headline would have read "Powell, 84, dies after cancer battle". Or if they were going to mention covid: "Powell, 84, dies of cancer with covid complications despite being vaccinated".
But of course they didn't want casual browsers to see that Powell had cancer, or had been vaccinated, or even how old he was. They just wanted people to think he dropped dead of nothing other than covid, thus inflating its danger in the minds of normal people far more than is actually the case. That is how The Fake Narrative is perpetuated by the fake media.
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10-21-21 07:20 #5032
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by Edward5 [View Original Post]
We are mostly well-travelled gentlemen on these boards, and we have experienced first hand how the third world works, or rather doesn't. The economic dislocation, the lack of basic services, the corruption, the poverty, the general lack of initiative.
As you correctly say, a society is a function of the human capital within it. It is no coincidence that cities in Haiti are very similar to cities in sub-Saharan Africa because they are populated by people of a similar background and low average IQ.
If we allow ourselves to be demographically overrun. As is deliberately happening right now, with Biden's handlers throwing open the border and preventing ICE from doing its job. We will end up with a similar society.
Of course, the elites, people like Nancy Pelosi, Jeff Bezos, Zuckerberg etc, are happy about this. In every third world country there is a tiny, powerful, super-wealthy group at the top. But there is no middle class, who can challenge and hold that group accountable. All that exists below them is a mass of serfs, too stupid, broke and downtrodden to do anything about the situation.
That is the situation the democrat / corporate / Big Tech / fake media lobby want. Rigged "mail-in" elections and totally fake news along with chickenfeed welfare handouts for the third world serfs, to keep them in power forever. And if the low IQ masses ever get a little unruly, they can tell them white people are to blame, let the mob murder a few (as in southern Africa) and the anger will subside.
Americans need to fight like hell against this outcome while we still can.