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  1. #12113
    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    Okay repair shop made two copies, Rudy and FBI. Rudy talked to NY POST, and FBI was concerned that it could be Russian disinformation. NY POST wrote the story anyway. So that story was out there by a news media. As well, since Rudy had a copy, couldn't he completely release it in any other forum beside Facebook or Twitter, you know like https://rudygiulianics.com/ or Fox News, or any of the thousand websites; blogs; etc. Yet the FBI somehow muzzled the universe, but you were able to get the information.
    Firstly, the FBI knew perfectly well it had nothing to do with Russia. Your suggestion that the poor, helpless, hapless little FBI had no idea what was going on is entirely laughable. The feds had had the laptop for some time and were certain that it was authentic, as we all now know. That they hid this fact for political reasons is one of the reasons the organization needs to be disbanded.

    Secondly, yes, the fact is that information distribution has become so dominated by Twitter, Facebook and Google that if those organizations collude (with, disgracefully, the politicized FBI) to ban and block something it has little chance of getting out to the wider public. They are the new public square. Which is why the First Amendment must be enforced upon them for it to have any meaning.

  2. #12112
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    TK, he says globohomo. I am not speaking for Chris but I would imagine he agrees with this. There is this excellent and popular show called Breaking Point with Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti. She is a liberal, and he is conservative, and you would be amazed at how much they agree.

    Bernie Sanders proposed making community college free. He was blown off as stupid and we were told we could not afford it when in fact it would cost $80 billion a year. We have already spent $100 billion on Ukraine for a war that we provoked with Russia. The globohomo agenda is funded by Wall Street and the military industrial complex to make certain money keeps coming to them by distracting from the real issues where Republicans and Democrats would agree. A bill that government pays for college will NEVER be voted on in my lifetime because Wall Street banks make too many $ off the loans, but a vote on military aid to Ukraine was a sure thing.

    Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell have made disgusting amounts of money trading stocks on insider information. There will NEVER be a bill sent for a vote to ban Congressional insider trading in my lifetime, but you better believe they will pass some bill regarding hate speech.

    With health care and the defense industry, you will NEVER see a bill sent for a vote on a public option of Medicare for all. I will also NEVER see an audit of the defense industry in my lifetime. However, you will see plenty of bills and laws aimed at limiting production of fossil fuels to "save the planet".

    The Democratic douches here are like the cult members of true believers. Instead of empowering the people even with voting, they do not care about that. They only care if Democrats win. If the FBI rigs an election ot two, they are cool with that. As long as the Democratic douches subscribe to the globohomo agenda, issues like soaring education costs, Congressional insider trading, health care, and the out of control defense department will continue to be problems.

    For all the shit said about Trump, he kept the peace. If he were re-elected, there would not have been a war in Ukraine. Instead of recognizing that, we see Democratic douches wearing their yellow and blue lapels and criticizing anyone who questions the end game in Ukraine or questions spending $100 billion earmarked for killing people as a Putin puppet.

    Cheering on war and demonizing the man who would have prevented it is part of the globohomo agenda. As long as they can keep red and blue bickering, the money will keep rolling in.
    A reasonably good definition of Globohomo at urbandictionary: "(noun, can also be used as an adjective) A portmanteau of the words "global" (or "globalist") and "homosexual. " Used to sarcastically denote the predominant philosophy espoused by the Western economic elite, formally known as "neoliberalism". It combines ruthless capitalism by transnational corporations with a façade of socially-liberal politics.

    The ultimate end state of Globohomo is one in which all sexual, ethnic, racial and national identity is broken down, leaving the demoralized masses to work for $12 an hour in an Amazon warehouse while a small cadre of billionaires rule over them. A poignant vision of Globohomo can be found in Aldous Huxley's 1932 novel, "Brave New World". ".

    It leaves out the frankly satanic ferocity with which Globohomo attempts to indoctrinate and sexualize small children (perhaps a plan hatched between Bill Gates and the Clintons on Epstein Island) but is broadly correct.

    Of course, first world white people in general are far wealthier than third worlders, due to our higher IQ, creativity, organization and industry. It is therefore white people whose living standards must be brought down most sharply to make them part of the vast, globalized, demoralised, impoverished mass. And our countries that must be invaded to bring us down to third world levels.

    Excellent point about the cost of the Ukraine war.

    Why do we even care about a border skirmish in the former USSR? They happen all the time. There was one just before this war, between Armenia and Azerbaijan (both former soviet republics). Nobody knew or cared about it. They only reason it got any coverage at all was because the Kardashians are Armenian and they heavily publicized it.

    One thing I will say about Medicare is that it could never work with open borders. The British National Health Service has been completely overrun by the vast number of immigrants pouring into the country. You literally have to wait years for a standard operation. For it to work, it would have to be restricted to US citizens only, otherwise it would be just another magnet to attract even more useless low IQ turd world dipshits that the Biden regime and deep state just wave across the border.

    As for college loans, yes indeed it is a big Wall Street scam: another element of the deep state profiteering at the expense of Americans. Tucker Carlson made yet another excellent point on this: the universities should also be held liable if their student doesn't repay the loan.

    Right now, the universities are letting in any doofus regardless of whether he or she can realistically graduate and find employment, because it's free money for them (money which is filtered back to the democrat party and various globohomo agendas by woke leftist academia). If the universities were on the hook for these loans, they would think much harder about which students they let in, and which bullshit "intersectional gender white privilege gibsmedat theory" courses they would cut.

  3. #12111
    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    Take for example, the right-Wing Neo-Nazi Atomwaffen leader and girlfriend duo, targeted and wanted to attack and blow-up, about five (5) power sub-stations, located in a ring around Baltimore, Maryland, all in the same day.
    ROFL, sure. What actually happened, as in the Gretchen Whitmer "kidnap" hoax and the Jan 6 hoax, is that federal agents deliberately targeted a handful of doofuses, whipped them up into a frenzy, set them up with money and gear, then swooped on them.

    They used to do this quite a bit with American Muslims 15 years ago. The media noticed and reported on it. But now that it's white men who are being targeted, the fake news of course turns a blind eye.

    In the sensible and law-governed America of the past, that would have been rightly thrown out of court and the agents fired if not prosecuted themselves for politically-motivated entrapment.

    But this is not the America of old. This is the America of the Jewish Attorney-General Merrick Garland, who set the feds on parents concerned about their elementary age children. The America of Kamala Harris, who cheered on a leftist mob that attacked the White House, while feigning shock over the Jan 6 nothingburger.

    The Guardian newspaper, of all outlets, admitted that the leader of this "neo-nazi" movement has a CAGE code! That is a code you require in order to be paid by the federal government.

    "Was the Base a honeypot designed to entrap people?

    Beginning in 2009 and until as late as 2019, Nazzaro billed himself as an intelligence expert working with various government and military agencies.

    Nazzaro is the principal of an LLC called Omega Solutions International (OSI), a company offering a range of intelligence and security contracting.

    Its website, which was removed from the Internet some time after August 2019, boasted of the firm's "experience conducting intelligence analysis for government agencies, military organizations, and private businesses", as well as access to a network of seasoned security professionals with expertise in counterterrorism, counterinsurgency, homeland security, hostage rescue / negotiations, psychological operations, and more.

    The firm also has a Cage Code, which is an administrative requirement for military and government contractors. ".

    The "leader" of this so-called "neo-nazi" movement has a Cage code in order to be paid by the feds. Let that sink in.

    Meanwhile, the actual violent terrorism that actually happens (mass burning and looting of cities) is committed entirely by leftists, cheered on by the media and democrat leaders, while the feds do nothing about it.

  4. #12110

    Best lines yet

    Here's a quote that perfectly sums up FUX Snooze: "It's now just about impossible to argue Fox is a legitimate journalistic entity. The now-public communications highlight that the network believes its primary purpose is to spoon-feed carefully curated propaganda to its audience — not to deliver news. ".

    This quote sums it up perfectly. I'd have said "all bullshit all the time" but that's my perspective. FUX Snooze does have a few people who sort of have integrity but they are being drowned out by the "hosts" (Carlson, Ingraham, Hannity and the like) who know that FUX Snooze viewers are idiots and have said so in private.

    Of course, the Repubs on the board will, as usual, trash the source. https://news.yahoo.com/fox-news-exec...211019570.html.

  5. #12109
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    You mean you have no clue what Shellenberger said in the Twitter files because you did not read one damned word he wrote.

    Yes, and you understood none of it. The FBI got Hunter Biden's laptop from an American citizen. You are too dense to see the FBI made up all that Russian disinformation bullshit to censor the story.

    https://www.carnegielibrary.org/the-...nd-censorship/

    "The First Amendment only protects your speech from government censorship. It applies to federal, state, and local government actors. This is a broad category that includes not only lawmakers and elected officials, but also public schools and universities, courts, and police officers. ".

    Like with the Twitter files, you checked nothing.

    No, I am stuck on the FBI. Bleaching files? Having the FBI versus the AG decide to prosecute or not? The AG having a closed door meeting with a former president who might have offered up a prize in case she did not prosecute and then taking herself off the case? Oh yeah, that was all business as usual with the FBI and Democrats.

    Are you doing PR for the FBI?

    Right, it is not like the FBI treated Hiliary Clinton and Biden differently than Trump.

    Checkmate, just curious, do you have any clue what the purpose of the first amendment is?
    Unlike you, I know when to say enough is enough. I shall used my blocking feature now. Good luck on your twitter hunt.

  6. #12108

    Bernie on form

    Great clip of Bernie in UK.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgoPQS1kBUw

  7. #12107

    Confirmation bias at its finest

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    You mean you have no clue what Shellenberger said in the Twitter files because you did not read one damned word he wrote.

    Yes, and you understood none of it. The FBI got Hunter Biden's laptop from an American citizen. You are too dense to see the FBI made up all that Russian disinformation bullshit to censor the story.

    https://www.carnegielibrary.org/the-...nd-censorship/

    "The First Amendment only protects your speech from government censorship. It applies to federal, state, and local government actors. This is a broad category that includes not only lawmakers and elected officials, but also public schools and universities, courts, and police officers. ".

    Like with the Twitter files, you checked nothing.

    No, I am stuck on the FBI. Bleaching files? Having the FBI versus the AG decide to prosecute or not? The AG having a closed door meeting with a former president who might have offered up a prize in case she did not prosecute and then taking herself off the case? Oh yeah, that was all business as usual with the FBI and Democrats.

    Are you doing PR for the FBI?

    Right, it is not like the FBI treated Hiliary Clinton and Biden differently than Trump.

    Checkmate, just curious, do you have any clue what the purpose of the first amendment is?
    Everything with you is confirmation bias-based.

    The "twitter files" show what you want them to show because you have blocked out everything that doesn't confirm your opinion.

    Let the Repubs investigate all they want. Any Twitter files investigation will be a nothing-burger. Repub investigators come up with nothing more than the Durham Report did. You remember that, don't you? The Durham Report? The report that took two years to produce and was supposed to bring down the deep state and the swamp and all the rest. The Durham Report went over like the lead balloon that it was. It was a nothing-burger. Just like the Hunter Biden laptop story will be a nothing-burger. Just like every single thing that the wingers will investigate until the next election. A big nothing-burger.

  8. #12106
    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    1.

    "I am honored by the invitation and grateful for the opportunity to offer testimony to Congress next week on the abuses of power and threats to freedom of expression that the Twitter Files revealed. " Shellenberger -twitter.

    So he will have his time for members to ask him questions regarding this.

    See unlike you, I wait for the answers.
    You mean you have no clue what Shellenberger said in the Twitter files because you did not read one damned word he wrote.

    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    I repeated your words as a summation. Case in point, Reading Comprehension.
    Yes, and you understood none of it. The FBI got Hunter Biden's laptop from an American citizen. You are too dense to see the FBI made up all that Russian disinformation bullshit to censor the story.

    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    Yes, last checked individual members are also "individual citizens". Nowhere in that paragraph was "congress as a whole" or "censor" was mentioned. Reading Comprehension / imagination.
    https://www.carnegielibrary.org/the-...nd-censorship/

    "The First Amendment only protects your speech from government censorship. It applies to federal, state, and local government actors. This is a broad category that includes not only lawmakers and elected officials, but also public schools and universities, courts, and police officers. ".

    Like with the Twitter files, you checked nothing.

    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    I thought my sentence was brief enough to make simple statement of letting go of something that didn't happen. Here it is again, You are stuck on Hilary.
    No, I am stuck on the FBI. Bleaching files? Having the FBI versus the AG decide to prosecute or not? The AG having a closed door meeting with a former president who might have offered up a prize in case she did not prosecute and then taking herself off the case? Oh yeah, that was all business as usual with the FBI and Democrats.

    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    The FBI assessment is they tried to warn the american public that Russia was sowing doubt and division among the american citizen by any means, Hunter's laptop just happened to be the shining object at the time for them to exploit. Did the Russian know about the laptop was in that shop, and that the dude made copies because drugged out Hunter didn't pick it up? Probably not. But they also knew that if they made this a "thing", maybe they can have Americans argued about it and potentially divides itself, and better yet fight with one another, figuratively and literally.
    Are you doing PR for the FBI?

    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    Anyone who break the law should be held to account, through the judicial process. This shouldn't be controversial.
    Right, it is not like the FBI treated Hiliary Clinton and Biden differently than Trump.

    Checkmate, just curious, do you have any clue what the purpose of the first amendment is?

  9. #12105
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    LOL. The problem is not my reading comprehension. It is your imagination. Elon Musk saw these files. He gave them to independent journalists he trusted. No one is disputing the facts except you, and you are not even disputing the facts. You are disputing whether he is qualified to publish said facts. You cannot fight the what so you are gong after the who.

    Bottom line is the FBI is not disputing the facts, but you are, and what does that say about you? Hell, you probably still believe Russiagate was real.

    When you say the FBI was concerned it was Russian information, I can just stop. You have your nose so far up the FBI's ass you cannot see them for what they are.

    So members of Congress can censor but Congress as a whole cannot?

    I never said it would have changed the election. I said the last three elections have been rigged by the FBI. I do not know what would have happened if they quit rigging them.

    It looks like Tooms has some competition for the Bagdad Bob role. Obviously, in your eyes, the way the Hiliary Clinton matter was handled was law enforcement at its finest. I am not going to debate someone who is making stuff up and is so dumb as to believe the FBI's tale about Russian disinformation with Hunter's laptop.
    1.

    "I am honored by the invitation and grateful for the opportunity to offer testimony to Congress next week on the abuses of power and threats to freedom of expression that the Twitter Files revealed. " Shellenberger -twitter.

    So he will have his time for members to ask him questions regarding this.

    See unlike you, I wait for the answers. When it is all said and done, the facts are what they are, and I can accept that. You take things at face value, get led by the nose, and then get bent out of shape if the end result doesn't match what your mind determined it should be at the begining.

    2. "Instead they followed around Rudy Giuliani who had a copy of the drive as well. When Giuliani talked to the NY Post, the FBI told the media to be concerned that there was going to be a story on Hunter Biden that had "all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation". " Post #12099.

    I repeated your words as a summation. Case in point, Reading Comprehension.

    3.

    Yes, last checked individual members are also "individual citizens". Nowhere in that paragraph was "congress as a whole" or "censor" was mentioned. Reading Comprehension / imagination.

    4.

    My fault, I attributed what Chris said to you. You have not made that assertion.

    5.

    I thought my sentence was brief enough to make simple statement of letting go of something that didn't happen. Here it is again, You are stuck on Hilary.

    The statement did not opine on how the case was handle. Merely stated that case is, as of now, closed.

    The FBI assessment is they tried to warn the american public that Russia was sowing doubt and division among the american citizen by any means, Hunter's laptop just happened to be the shining object at the time for them to exploit. Did the Russian know about the laptop was in that shop, and that the dude made copies because drugged out Hunter didn't pick it up? Probably not. But they also knew that if they made this a "thing", maybe they can have Americans argued about it and potentially divides itself, and better yet fight with one another, figuratively and literally.

    The FBI affirmed this assessment in the previous administation, and the current administration maintains that stance. I'll take assessment as that, until proven otherwise. Nothing about make anything up to argue with you. You don't trust the FBI. That's cool, that's your opinion and your privilege as a citizen.

    My stance has always been Businesses can do whatever they want within the parameters of the law.

    Anyone who break the law should be held to account, through the judicial process. This shouldn't be controversial. You're just impatient.

  10. #12104

    Did Baghdad Bob wear blue suede shoes too?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    .....
    It looks like Tooms has some competition for the Bagdad Bob role. Obviously, in your eyes, the way the Hiliary Clinton matter was handled was law enforcement at its finest. I am not going to debate someone who is making stuff up and is so dumb as to believe the FBI's tale about Russian disinformation with Hunter's laptop.
    Now that irony has died among wingers, I suppose it is up to me to remind you that Baghdad Bob's laughable silliness was that he reported a false and rosy picture of what was happening in Iraq during the Iraq War despite the actual, verifiable facts to the contrary.

    You know, exactly like when wingers proudly proclaim Trump "kept the peace!" despite the actual, verifiable fact to the contrary that the USA was actively engaged in war for every second of every minute of every hour of every day of every week of every month of every year of Trump's so-called presidency.

    Um. The condition of the USA not being actively engaged in a war anywhere on the planet, otherwise known as "Peace", occurred for the first time in decades under Joe Biden, not Donald Trump.

    Baghdad much there, Bob?

    Oh, and the investigation of Trump's extraordinary and troubling devotion and allegiance to Russia over America and our allies was totally justified and legitimate.

    Trump's own assigned invesigation into the matter proved that:

    How the Durham inquiry backfired to show weaponization of Trump DoJ

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-investigation

    And what you lovingly refer to as "Russiagate" was also very good and beneficial for America, too! As witnessed by the outcome of the 2020 presidential election and keeping that Redrawn Districts Repub election rigging down to a historically pathetic Pink Tinkle in the 2022 midterms.

    Good job, America!

  11. #12103
    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    1. Yes, when there is one person who is producing the all information, I do look at it critically and ask; Who is this person? Is he credible? Is there collaborating evident by someone else?

    Your choice to blindly accept things at face value is your right. I choose to do a little more homework.
    LOL. The problem is not my reading comprehension. It is your imagination. Elon Musk saw these files. He gave them to independent journalists he trusted. No one is disputing the facts except you, and you are not even disputing the facts. You are disputing whether he is qualified to publish said facts. You cannot fight the what so you are gong after the who.

    Bottom line is the FBI is not disputing the facts, but you are, and what does that say about you? Hell, you probably still believe Russiagate was real.

    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    FBI was concerned that it could be Russian disinformation. NY POST wrote the story anyway. So that story was out there by a news media. As well, since Rudy had a copy, couldn't he completely release it in any other forum beside Facebook or Twitter, you know like https://rudygiulianics.com/ or Fox News, or any of the thousand websites; blogs; etc. Yet the FBI somehow muzzled the universe, but you were able to get the information.
    When you say the FBI was concerned it was Russian information, I can just stop. You have your nose so far up the FBI's ass you cannot see them for what they are.

    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    Yes, congress members are allowed to request businesses to remove individuals for their own personal reasons. As can you, and me and god forbid the President of United States. Businesses then make a judgement call.
    So members of Congress can censor but Congress as a whole cannot?

    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    Your grievance is that if people knew about this the election would have changed. You don't account for: maybe they have seen it but don't give a shit about it
    I never said it would have changed the election. I said the last three elections have been rigged by the FBI. I do not know what would have happened if they quit rigging them.

    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    Fact: People vote however they want.

    Opinion: Mine: And that's how it should be. May the best person wins.

    3. You're still stuck on Hilary. Fact: No charges were filed, as of yet.

    "You had Peter Strzok like the #3 guy at the FBI say that he would not let Trump win the 2016 election. ".

    Stupid move on his part, not illegal considering he's not charged with anything. He was fired because he probably violated a FBI policy. I used "probably" because he currently is contesting his firing in court for wrongful termination. Sorry, I don't have the FBI employee policy. I'll just have to watch the court system and see how that played out.
    It looks like Tooms has some competition for the Bagdad Bob role. Obviously, in your eyes, the way the Hiliary Clinton matter was handled was law enforcement at its finest. I am not going to debate someone who is making stuff up and is so dumb as to believe the FBI's tale about Russian disinformation with Hunter's laptop.

  12. #12102

    Yep

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    And Bagdad Bob strikes again.

    Gilliar had referenced the "big guy" as he acted as the driving force behind Hunter and his uncle Jim Biden's planned multimillion-dollar deal with Chinese energy conglomerate CEFC. https://nypost.com/2022/07/27/hunter...c-over-laptop/.

    https://heavy.com/news/tony-bobulinski/

    "I take great pride in the time my family and I served this country. I am also not a political person. What few campaign contributions I have made in my life were to Democrats."

    May 20,2017 text exchange obtained by #FoxNews. Tony Bobulinski is warned by business partner James Gilliar "Don't mention Joe being involved, it's only when you are face to face, I know you know that but they are paranoid", which I'm told is a reference to Joe Biden.

    The email, sent from one of the group partners, disclosed cash and equity positions, as well as a 10% cut for someone called "the big guy," the New York Post reported.

    In his announcement, Bobulinski outed "the big guy" as Joe Biden. He also told the New York Post that the initials "JB" used in the email represent Joe Biden's brother, Jim Biden..
    That's right. There is no law, nothing, zip, zero, nada, for which someone can be indicted or charged for presumably and possibly being referred to as "the big guy" by someone trying to impress a potential employer and to whom no illegal favors or payments were ever made.

    Now you're getting it!

  13. #12101

    Again you have issues with reading comprehension

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    So my finding his website and Shellenberger's degree are what matter? This is classic Dem behavior: attack the source rather than dispute the facts. A reporter wants to get paid for his work? The horror! He needs to be paid like everyone else, with commercials by Pfizer.

    The facts are Hunter Biden dropped off his laptop to be repaired and did not pick it up. The owner of the repair shop made copies of Hunter's hard drive. He gave one to the FBI. They sat on it and did nothing with it. Instead they followed around Rudy Giuliani who had a copy of the drive as well. When Giuliani talked to the NY Post, the FBI told the media to be concerned that there was going to be a story on Hunter Biden that had "all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation". The NY Post writes the story. Facebook and Twitter either ban or downgrade this story. And we then learn that the FBI is in constant talks with Twitter and even has a encrypted and top secret line to discuss spiking stories or banning people from its platform. We also see Democratic members in Congress getting people banned all the time.

    So the FBI let Hillary Clinton go after she broke the law. You had Peter Strzok like the #3 guy at the FBI say that he would not let Trump win the 2016 election. The FBI then makes up Russiagate. With 1-6, the FBI refuses to admit if they had agents involved responsible for instigating the 1-6 riots. Now we see that the FBI rigged the 2020 election by doing all it could to sit on Hunter Biden's laptop and spike the NY Post story about it.

    Your nonpartisan explanation, Checkmate, was that Twitter is a "private company" and therefore cannot violate censorship laws. Obviously, Texas would have gone after Twitter for political discrimination had Musk not bought them. Then we learn that this "private company" is stocked to the gills with "former" FBI agents.

    And now the issue is Shellenberger's degree, website, asking to be paid for his work, and that he told his story on Fox News? And there is no dispute of what he claims are the facts? Congratulations, you have now been crowned a Democratic douche, Mr. Nonpartisan. You are about as "nonpartisan" as the FBI.

    This is classic censorship and election rigging. Hell, the FBI has unquestionably influenced the last three elections, but you do not care that the FBI is picking candidates versus the voters as long as they lean Dem.
    1. Yes, when there is one person who is producing the all information, I do look at it critically and ask; Who is this person? Is he credible? Is there collaborating evident by someone else?

    Your choice to blindly accept things at face value is your right. I choose to do a little more homework.

    2. "The facts are Hunter Biden dropped off his laptop to be repaired and did not pick it up. The owner of the repair shop made copies of Hunter's hard drive. He gave one to the FBI. They sat on it and did nothing with it. Instead they followed around Rudy Giuliani who had a copy of the drive as well. When Giuliani talked to the NY Post, the FBI told the media to be concerned that there was going to be a story on Hunter Biden that had "all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation". The NY Post writes the story. . . . We also see Democratic members in Congress getting people banned all the time. ".

    Okay repair shop made two copies, Rudy and FBI. Rudy talked to NY POST, and FBI was concerned that it could be Russian disinformation. NY POST wrote the story anyway. So that story was out there by a news media. As well, since Rudy had a copy, couldn't he completely release it in any other forum beside Facebook or Twitter, you know like https://rudygiulianics.com/ or Fox News, or any of the thousand websites; blogs; etc. Yet the FBI somehow muzzled the universe, but you were able to get the information.

    Yes, congress members are allowed to request businesses to remove individuals for their own personal reasons. As can you, and me and god forbid the President of United States. Businesses then make a judgement call.

    Your grievance is that if people knew about this the election would have changed. You don't account for: maybe they have seen it but don't give a shit about it; and / or maybe they like the other candidate better for other reasons; and / or maybe they voted for non of the above.

    Fact: People vote however they want.

    Opinion: Mine: And that's how it should be. May the best person wins.

    3. You're still stuck on Hilary. Fact: No charges were filed, as of yet.

    "You had Peter Strzok like the #3 guy at the FBI say that he would not let Trump win the 2016 election. ".

    Stupid move on his part, not illegal considering he's not charged with anything. He was fired because he probably violated a FBI policy. I used "probably" because he currently is contesting his firing in court for wrongful termination. Sorry, I don't have the FBI employee policy. I'll just have to watch the court system and see how that played out.

    FBI refuse to admit to "some report" that "someone" wrote on the internet. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...eori-rcna63615.

    DO yourself a favor, write to your favorite (maybe you live in an area where your representative doesn't share your view point) congressional representative to hold a hearing on this, and let's see what they write back to you.

    4. "Texas would have gone after Twitter for political discrimination had Musk not bought them. ".

    And if they, it would have been a slam dunk that they would win in court. Right?

    Fact: Every lawsuits based on political discrimination against social media has been dismissed by the court, so far. It is NOT a THING.

    5. Throwing shit against the wall and tell people to dispute it is dumb. I don't have issue with Shellenberger writing per se. I ask for corroborating evident other than his. It seems strange that you don't allow this kind curiosity.

    6. So the FBI decides our elections. By extension, shouldn't every president get relected? The President can fire and hire anyone and everyone in the FBI each 4 years.

  14. #12100
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    The laptop bit has not yet been shown by anyone or by any evidence that Joe Biden, you know, the candidate and winner of the 2020 presidential election, was involved in anything illegal or unethical. Zip. Nada. Nothing.
    And Bagdad Bob strikes again.

    Gilliar had referenced the "big guy" as he acted as the driving force behind Hunter and his uncle Jim Biden's planned multimillion-dollar deal with Chinese energy conglomerate CEFC. https://nypost.com/2022/07/27/hunter...c-over-laptop/.

    https://heavy.com/news/tony-bobulinski/

    "I take great pride in the time my family and I served this country. I am also not a political person. What few campaign contributions I have made in my life were to Democrats."

    May 20,2017 text exchange obtained by #FoxNews. Tony Bobulinski is warned by business partner James Gilliar "Don't mention Joe being involved, it's only when you are face to face, I know you know that but they are paranoid", which I'm told is a reference to Joe Biden.

    The email, sent from one of the group partners, disclosed cash and equity positions, as well as a 10% cut for someone called "the big guy," the New York Post reported.

    In his announcement, Bobulinski outed "the big guy" as Joe Biden. He also told the New York Post that the initials "JB" used in the email represent Joe Biden's brother, Jim Biden.

    Tony Bobulinski, former business partner of the Biden family, claimed Tuesday that the president's son and brother cheated him out of millions of dollars in a deal to form a joint venture with a Chinese firm.

    The former Navy officer's accusations involve a contract initiated between a Delaware firm he started, owned by him, Jim and Hunter Biden, and partners Rob Walker and James Gilliar, to create a joint venture with CEFC, the Chinese firm that pledged to give them $10 million of working capital. Bobulinski alleged that the Bidens embezzled at least $5 million from CEFC.

    The outline for the deal with China was on Hunter's laptop.

    End of links. In addition, Hunter Biden was being paid millions by a Ukrainian natural gas company, and he has no knowledge of the natural gas business and admitted he was hired on name only. Joe Biden comes in and holds up American aid until the Ukrainian prosecutor investigating Hunter is fired.

    So your contention that Hunter Biden was not unethically profiting off the Biden name and selling political influence is bunk.

    Bagdad Bob by your definition anyone who is a member of the Democratic party cannot be involved in anything illegal or unethical.

    Maybe you should go back to your whatabouism versus outright lies. If you say what about Jared Kushner, you have a point, but unlike you who loves Hunter Biden selling political influence for a $, I think what Kushner did was unethical.

  15. #12099
    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    Okay, went through the your link and paid attention to each an every clip, read everything provided on the link.

    Clips contains mostly FOX news crediting one source and never a collaborating source or any other guest other than Michael Shellenberger. Sure there was on British lady who got on then to credit Michael Shelleberger. Then Tucker credited the journalism that was done by M. Shellenberger.

    I checked Michael Shellenger's linkedin. Graduated from Earlham College with a BA in Peace and Global Studies (https://earlham.edu/academics/majors...global-studies) and a MA in Anthropology.

    No mentioning of any journalism school, nor wrote for any publication that you could identify. I'll do that for you as of December 2022, he wrote for "The Free Press" media company. Without looking can you find the website?
    So my finding his website and Shellenberger's degree are what matter? This is classic Dem behavior: attack the source rather than dispute the facts. A reporter wants to get paid for his work? The horror! He needs to be paid like everyone else, with commercials by Pfizer.

    The facts are Hunter Biden dropped off his laptop to be repaired and did not pick it up. The owner of the repair shop made copies of Hunter's hard drive. He gave one to the FBI. They sat on it and did nothing with it. Instead they followed around Rudy Giuliani who had a copy of the drive as well. When Giuliani talked to the NY Post, the FBI told the media to be concerned that there was going to be a story on Hunter Biden that had "all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation". The NY Post writes the story. Facebook and Twitter either ban or downgrade this story. And we then learn that the FBI is in constant talks with Twitter and even has a encrypted and top secret line to discuss spiking stories or banning people from its platform. We also see Democratic members in Congress getting people banned all the time.

    So the FBI let Hillary Clinton go after she broke the law. You had Peter Strzok like the #3 guy at the FBI say that he would not let Trump win the 2016 election. The FBI then makes up Russiagate. With 1-6, the FBI refuses to admit if they had agents involved responsible for instigating the 1-6 riots. Now we see that the FBI rigged the 2020 election by doing all it could to sit on Hunter Biden's laptop and spike the NY Post story about it.

    Your nonpartisan explanation, Checkmate, was that Twitter is a "private company" and therefore cannot violate censorship laws. Obviously, Texas would have gone after Twitter for political discrimination had Musk not bought them. Then we learn that this "private company" is stocked to the gills with "former" FBI agents.

    And now the issue is Shellenberger's degree, website, asking to be paid for his work, and that he told his story on Fox News? And there is no dispute of what he claims are the facts? Congratulations, you have now been crowned a Democratic douche, Mr. Nonpartisan. You are about as "nonpartisan" as the FBI.

    This is classic censorship and election rigging. Hell, the FBI has unquestionably influenced the last three elections, but you do not care that the FBI is picking candidates versus the voters as long as they lean Dem.

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