American Politics

[ScatManDoo]

Four new subpoenas went out today from the January 6th insurrection investigative committee.

Subpoenas were served today on Sidney Powell, Jenna Ellis, Boris Epshtevn and Rudolph Giuliani.

"the four individuals we've subpoenaed today advanced unsupported theories about election fraud, pushed efforts to overturn the election results, or were in direct contact with the former President about attempts to stop the counting of electoral votes. " - Chairman Bernie Thompson of Massachusetts.

[Canada]

Yep! Anyone who wants the "proof" of Trump's lack of originality in his "fake news" shtick can simply google "Lgenpresse". The Nazis were extremely proficient in that technique, and even they were hardly the first.

And Trump's disciples parroting that ridiculous, discredited slogan every time they have a chance -- what an embarrassment!

It is the year 2022 Biden is an incompetent president. Realists talk Biden. Socialists talk about Trump. Yes we all agree things would be better if Trump was president and you keep reminding us. You are in fantasyland and can't accept the reality of the Biden presidency. Ignoring it won't make Biden go away.

[Xpartan]

If one goes back 4 to 5 years and looks at every post from every rightwingnut who has posted on this board, at least one of these 5 items is used in their response.

They get these tactics from the one-term, twice-impeached former guy, who got it from the fascist dictator who ran Germany 80-some-odd years ago. So the tactics aren't new by any means. What is really scary is that the fascists who post here don't recognize the tactics. Anyone who went to school past grade school was taught that these things happened.

The one-term, twice-impeached former guy (and our current crop of fascist representatives and fascist posters) also use some other tactics common to what was used in Germany. 1. Always deny that you said it or did it, even though there is a video or audio record of you saying it or doing it. Keep denying until it is no longer newsworthy; 2. Move the goal posts when you get backed into a corner. This is especially important as it gives you time to dream up another lie; 3. Always attack; 4. Always belittle. Use derisive nicknames if possible because people with a low IQ will think it is funny, and, most importantly, 5. Keep repeating the lie until it becomes acceptable. It doesn't make any difference if it is a small lie or a whopper. In fact, the bigger the lie, the louder and longer you must yell. Eventually the sheep will believe anything.

Yep! Anyone who wants the "proof" of Trump's lack of originality in his "fake news" shtick can simply google "Lügenpresse". The Nazis were extremely proficient in that technique, and even they were hardly the first.

And Trump's disciples parroting that ridiculous, discredited slogan every time they have a chance -- what an embarrassment!

[PVMonger]

1. Call anyone who doesn't agree with us a liar.

2. Call anyone who disagrees with us a socialist (communist, Marxist, etc).

3. When they provide the proof, call it "fake news".

4. Stay as vague as possible and deflect when challenged. Facts don't matter. Only faith matters.

5. It's not a lie when you believe in it.

If one goes back 4 to 5 years and looks at every post from every rightwingnut who has posted on this board, at least one of these 5 items is used in their response.

They get these tactics from the one-term, twice-impeached former guy, who got it from the fascist dictator who ran Germany 80-some-odd years ago. So the tactics aren't new by any means. What is really scary is that the fascists who post here don't recognize the tactics. Anyone who went to school past grade school was taught that these things happened.

The one-term, twice-impeached former guy (and our current crop of fascist representatives and fascist posters) also use some other tactics common to what was used in Germany. 1. Always deny that you said it or did it, even though there is a video or audio record of you saying it or doing it. Keep denying until it is no longer newsworthy; 2. Move the goal posts when you get backed into a corner. This is especially important as it gives you time to dream up another lie; 3. Always attack; 4. Always belittle. Use derisive nicknames if possible because people with a low IQ will think it is funny, and, most importantly, 5. Keep repeating the lie until it becomes acceptable. It doesn't make any difference if it is a small lie or a whopper. In fact, the bigger the lie, the louder and longer you must yell. Eventually the sheep will believe anything.

[Cali Guy]

1. Call anyone who doesn't agree with us a liar.

2. Call anyone who disagrees with us a socialist (communist, Marxist, etc).

3. When they provide the proof, call it "fake news".

4. Stay as vague as possible and deflect when challenged. Facts don't matter. Only faith matters.

5. It's not a lie when you believe in it.

I agree with Canada and I am a registered democrat. Democrats, independents and Republicans don't agree with the socialists, communists or whatever you call yourselves. Fake news, wokeness, racist and lies define the socialists on this site. Americans are tired of socialists like you. Americans know the pitfalls of socialism and what it has done to other countries. Stop hating America.

[Cali Guy]

There are two (2) reasons for the internal migration.

One is that xenophobic uneducated wingers are moving from states with high populations of immigrants to low education states like Florida and Texas where they'll fit in better with their fellow deplorables.

The second reason is taxes. Wingers would rather move to a low tax state so that they can get freebies from the federal gummint. 'Cause that's what wingers do. They talk a good game but states with the largest influx of federal dollars are red.

But, if the wingers get their way and we have a national divorce, blue states can lower their tax base because they don't have to give back to the red states. We can then build a wall around the red states and let them rot.

Claiming that blacks and Hispanics are moving from California are deplorables because they want to get away from high taxes and crime. Racist and disgusting.

[Xpartan]

1. A socialist is someone like you or Xpartan who posts the nonsense and lies. For a clearer picture of a socialist just look in the mirror.

1. Call anyone who doesn't agree with us a liar.

2. Call anyone who disagrees with us a socialist (communist, Marxist, etc).

3. When they provide the proof, call it "fake news".

4. Stay as vague as possible and deflect when challenged. Facts don't matter. Only faith matters.

5. It's not a lie when you believe in it.

[Cali Guy]

The Washington Post reported January 14 on the southern migration, which is now reversing the historic "Great Migration" of black Americans from the South to northern cities during the 1900's:

"For the second census in a row, Chicago and its suburbs lost Black population, and has decreased by 130,000 since 1990. In Michigan, both the Detroit and Flint metropolitan areas lost Black population in absolute terms. Metro New York recorded its second consecutive loss in Black population, losing about 110,000 Black residents since 2000. In California, metro Los Angeles has lost 160,000 Black residents since 1990, while metro San Francisco has lost 90,000."

All people seek a better life for themselves and their families which includes safe neighborhoods, good education for their children, better jobs, lower cost of living, and yes, less taxes and an end to incompetent & corrupt ideological left wing government. That is the reason for the mass migration away from Democratic One Party States and Cities. You ain't seen nothing yet.

Great to see more democrats on this forum standing up to the socialists lies and fabrications on this forum. Great post.

[Cali Guy]

Further proof Biden has created zero jobs in a year. Only four states are back to employment levels pre pandemic when Trump was president. Biden needs 5 million more jobs created to get to Trump record employment numbers.

Texas has bounced back after two years of pandemic-related unemployment spikes and is currently outperforming its pre-COVID-19 levels of unemployment.

Arizona, Utah and Idaho are the only other three states to regain all the jobs lost to the pandemic, The Wall Street Journal noted Tuesday.

New York, on other hand, is lagging far behind the Lone Star State. New York State Budget Director told reporters on Tuesday that the state has recovered less than two-thirds of the jobs lost due to the pandemic. The economy is still 5 million jobs under the peak reached before the pandemic, according to Forbes.

[Canada]

What those states have in common is they have among the highest incomes and best returns on real estate investment in America. Maybe those people took their lifelong income advantages and investment gains, converted their residents into rental property and bought some cheap home in a depressed red state for cash or leased at ridiculously low rent rates.

That is similar to what I did at retirement from California. But I chose a place to live in retirement that provides a hell of a lot more fun, pleasure and comfort advantages than any red state you've got.

BTW, assuming your totally unsubstantiated assertion is true, how did United Van Lines know how many people were moving each time a van was booked?

I mean, if only the loony uncle who cracks everyone up at Thanksgiving dinner with his idiotic FUX News Channel fake news rantings was the one moving while 10 other members of the extended family stayed put, that pretty much destroys your entire totally unsubstantiated premise and point.

Socialists mentality. People are leaving these states because they pay the highest wages and get the best returns on real estate. They don't leave because of the high taxes, high crime rates and woke democrat leadership. Makes sense to me. LOL.

[Canada]

"Woke". The favorite fascist label. It means "Here is somebody who is educated and can think for themselves. I hate them because I am uneducated and I know that Tucker "Nobody in their right mind can believe anything I say" Carlson is right all the time".

According to you, Democrats don't support "freedom of speech" yet Repugs continually muzzle people who don't tow the party line (see Cheney, Liz).

According to you, Democrats don't support "freedom of thought" yet Repugs continually muzzle people who don't tow the party line (see Cheney, Liz).

According to you, Democrats don't support "freedom of assembly" because Democrats believe that the January 6th riot was a riot..

You are wrong again. Woke means socialists bullshit. Democrats support freedom of speech. Socialists don't. Democrats support free elections. Socialists don't. They want to try to work the system with no voter IDs and harvesting ballots. Socialists cheat and lie. You are proof of that.

Antifa and BLM are domestic terrorists. Democrats know that. Socialists glorify them.

Democrats voted Biden in because he was a moderate democrat. Now that he is catering to the socialists he is losing the support of the moderates. If you are moderate democrat you are against his policies that are bringing in record inflation. If you are a socialist you blame the republicans, Trump, Santa Claus and the tooth fairy. Your support of Biden disaster proves you are a socialist. No denying it.

[Canada]

I knew that you would say "fake news". It is virtually all you do. The numbers are correct and you are wrong. Again.

Pretty easy to say when for the last 6 months all you have posted was fake news. Can't help it if you only go to liberal news sites for your information.

[Axel Heyst]

There is so much hyperbole and left wing exaggeration in your rant. You are the opposite of what an educated liberal is or once was. I asked before: do you have any idea what Liberalism stands for? The answer is, No you don't. The evidence is in all you posts on this forum. But unlike yourself, I have a life and therefore I do not have the time to go into every one of your ridiculous and unfounded accusations. I will just explain a few. Try to concentrate. And maybe take a Prozac before you read this.

1. "Woke". The favorite fascist label. It means "Here is somebody who is educated and can think for themselves. I hate them because I am uneducated and I know that Tucker "Nobody in their right mind can believe anything I say" Carlson is right all the time."

Where the fuck do find the BS to assume my education level? I most likely have far more education than you and I most likely received my education from better schools and universities than you as well. It also seems apparent that you watch Carlson a lot more than I. Why are so so fixated on this person? And why do you need to vilify people with whom you disagree politically by attempting to attach them to this person who may or may not deserve the vilification? This is an old Communist ploy.

2. "According to you, Democrats don't support "freedom of speech" yet Repugs continually muzzle people who don't tow the party line (see Cheney, Liz)."

That is right. Just go to any University of California class room or dorm and say something / anything that is not accepted party orthodoxy and see what happens. Or do the same at any California high tech company like for example Google. Say something like, "all lives matter" or "illegal aliens do not have the right to vote in American elections" and see what happens to that person's grade point average or career. That is Proof that there is no tolerance for free speech or free thought in American Universities or American Boardrooms. I just proved it. Why do you deny it?

3. "According to you, Democrats don't support "freedom of assembly" because Democrats believe that the January 6th riot was a riot."

Jan 6 was bad and the persons who committed crimes on Jan 6 should be tried in a court of law. I believe most conservatives will admit that. Tell me of one Democrat who publicly condemns the Antifa / BLM riots. Riots where 100's of people were killed and injured, and hundreds of millions of dollars of property was destroyed. Many Jan 6 rioters are still in jail, having been denied bail and are awaiting trial. How many Antifa / BLM rioters have been charged with anything or spent any time in jail? And what about Nancy Pelosie's role in the Jan 6 riots. Is the House of Representatives going to investigate her reported negligence? It was her job to request the National Guard to protect the Capital. Trump recommended that 1000 National Guard be stationed around the Capital on Jan 5. Why didn't Nancy request the guard?

4. "According to you, Democrats don't support "free elections" yet there will be close to zero Repub Senators who vote for the Voting Rights Act."

The Marxist "voting rights" act which you bring up and blindly support is not about free and open elections. There you ago again. Just because your leaders say it is a voting rights act does not make it a voting rights act. Read the fucker! It is about ending free and open elections and guaranteeing that the left wins every election from now on just like in the Soviet Union and Communist China. But you don't really want to discuss this act in detail. That would expose its real intent. You just shout out "voting rights act" and demand that everyone submit or be labeled a racist or some other epitaph. That is fascist.

5. So, "Who / what the fascists?" I have narrowed down your childish list for you:

ANTIFA. Totalitarians, anarchists, brown shirts, and Marxists like you.

Black Lives Matter. Absolutely, read their fucking charter. They admit they are a Marxist organization. Why don't you admit you are a Marxist or a totalitarian? That is what you are. Why pretend otherwise?

Progressives. Sadly yes. Most Progressives are just sheep not closely examining what the Democratic party has become, but the leaders of the movement are most definitely power hungry Marxist or cowards. The ones running the Biden White House are Marxist. That is obvious. Senator Sanders admits it. At least he is honest about it. Why can't you be honest about it too?

[PVMonger]

The Washington Post reported January 14 on the southern migration, which is now reversing the historic "Great Migration" of black Americans from the South to northern cities during the 1900's:

"For the second census in a row, Chicago and its suburbs lost Black population, and has decreased by 130,000 since 1990. In Michigan, both the Detroit and Flint metropolitan areas lost Black population in absolute terms. Metro New York recorded its second consecutive loss in Black population, losing about 110,000 Black residents since 2000. In California, metro Los Angeles has lost 160,000 Black residents since 1990, while metro San Francisco has lost 90,000."

All people seek a better life for themselves and their families which includes safe neighborhoods, good education for their children, better jobs, lower cost of living, and yes, less taxes and an end to incompetent & corrupt ideological left wing government. That is the reason for the mass migration away from Democratic One Party States and Cities. You ain't seen nothing yet.

Here's what you said to "prove" that Black's are leaving "the North" for the "low crime rates" of the south: "All people seek a better life for themselves and their families which includes safe neighborhoods, good education for their children, better jobs, lower cost of living, and yes, less taxes and an end to incompetent & corrupt ideological left wing government. That is the reason for the mass migration away from Democratic One Party States and Cities. You ain't seen nothing yet."

Yes this unbiased article shows that your contention of "red states" being lower in crime is, as usual, pontification without evidence. https://worldpopulationreview.com/st...-rate-by-state Look at all of the states in the South (virtually all of them run by Repubs) and tell me that they have low crime rates.

Good educations? Really? Look at the following education ranking and tell me that the South has quality schools. And quality schools for Blacks? https://www.insider.com/us-states-pu...-report-2019-4#47-Alaska-4.

Better jobs? Nope, not in the South. https://worldpopulationreview.com/st...ncome-by-state.

Please stop with the blather. People leave states for every reason under the sun. But Blacks don't go to the South for better paying jobs, better healthcare, better schools, less crime, etc.

[Canada]

Is it because Repubs are too stupid and incompetent to produce any other results or is it because producing economic disasters is their only Party mission? Not that it matters which it is. I'm just curious to know if any wingers here can shed light on that age old question.

Repubs wouldn't have to lie, cheat, steal, rig and riot violently against free and fair elections in order to "win" them if they would simply stop producing Great Repub Crashes that destroy retirements, lose Trillions of taxpayers' dollars and wipe out millions of USA jobs every time they slither into office and get their way.

Merely matching the positive economic and job creating results of any Dem since the Repub Party was formed in 1858 would be a good start. Maybe expecting them to outperform one is asking too much.

And, who knows, someday they might not have to resort to blatant election fraud like this to legitimately win the majority of votes of the American people:

Fake Election Certificates In NM and Other States Shed Light On Plot to Overturn Biden Victory

https://abq.news/2022/01/fake-electi...biden-victory/

Everything you said is true but you made a mistake. You were talking about the democrats and Biden. Are you still glowing about Biden and the stock market down 4% already this year? Biden inflation is affecting the market not just the poor. And Biden policies driving oil prices and oil stocks higher. Oil at $88 a barrel double what it was under Trump administration. America is waking up. They see the mess Biden got us into. Only the fools avoid talking about it. The fools still want to talk about the past because the future is looking grim.