American Politics

[PVMonger]

70% I favor of BBB is a fabricated number by the far left only to be found on liberal fake news sites. Republicans, democrats and independents are against BBB. Only ones for it are Biden, far left, socialists and fools.

52 senators got it right and the American people are grateful.

When it comes to the fascist Republican party, Forrest's contention that "You can't fix stupid" is on the money. And everybody knows it.

[Xpartan]

70% I favor of BBB is a fabricated number by the far left only to be found on liberal fake news sites. Republicans, democrats and independents are against BBB. Only ones for it are Biden, far left, socialists and fools.

Our resident fake ex-democrat is at it again.

A recent Reuters/Ipsos poll finds that over half of Americans (56%) support the Build Back Better Framework, but that support is primarily driven by Democrats. Eighty-three percent of Democrats support the plan, while only 28% of Republicans do. However, although support for the plan is split along party lines, individual components of the plan garner high support from all Americans. Expanding Medicare coverage gets the most support (80%), followed by imposing a 5% tax on incomes of over $10 million a year (70%), and universal preschool (69%). Investing in the immigration system (53%) and imposing a 15% minimum corporate tax (56%) are least supported, with the lack of support primarily from Republicans. Finally, 57% think Americans would be positively impacted, and a majority think they would personally benefit from the bill being passed.

The sample includes 449 Democrats, 381 Republicans, and 91 independents.

[Cali Guy]

If there was one word to describe what's wrong with this country nowadays, that would be cowardice.

Despite the litany of criminal charges that should've been brought against Trump already, he's yet to be charged with anything.

I mean, just his RECORDED phone conversation with Georgia officials when he's OPENLY PRESSING them to change the votes in his favor -- how can it possibly NOT be criminal, for fuck's sake? That's a third world territory.

It's impossible to believe that anyone other than Trump could've blatantly committed so many criminal offences, one after another, in broad daylight and gotten away with it. Who's Teflon Don now?

Mindboggling, really.

You are wrong. Hunter Biden has gotten away with far more crimes than Trump and him and his dad are profiting daily from it.

[Cali Guy]

And yet the majority of Americans (70% by some reports) support the BBB plan. https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog...pular-all-year and https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-pol...ericans-110321.

Of course, since the poll contradicts the narrative for the fascists, they will say that polls don't mean anything. What they really mean is that polls they don't agree with don't mean anything. Polls that they agree with are valid.

In fact, 50 RethugliKKKan Senators represent something less than 25% of the American people.

70% I favor of BBB is a fabricated number by the far left only to be found on liberal fake news sites. Republicans, democrats and independents are against BBB. Only ones for it are Biden, far left, socialists and fools.

52 senators got it right and the American people are grateful.

[Xpartan]

History will prove again that nothing is going to happen to Trump from January 6 protest. Just like nothing happened to Trump with Russia collusion.

If there was one word to describe what's wrong with this country nowadays, that would be cowardice.

Despite the litany of criminal charges that should've been brought against Trump already, he's yet to be charged with anything.

I mean, just his RECORDED phone conversation with Georgia officials when he's OPENLY PRESSING them to change the votes in his favor -- how can it possibly NOT be criminal, for fuck's sake? That's a third world territory.

It's impossible to believe that anyone other than Trump could've blatantly committed so many criminal offences, one after another, in broad daylight and gotten away with it. Who's Teflon Don now?

Mindboggling, really.

[PVMonger]

History will prove again that nothing is going to happen to Trump from January 6 protest. Just like nothing happened to Trump with Russia collusion. This is just a far left fantasy that they can talk about over and over and over again because they need to distract their mind from Biden failures. Nothing will happen and the idiots are going to repeat it over and over and over again.

What's with the "collusion thing"? First, Mueller didn't investigate collusion. The fact that fascists bring it up continually proves that they really do have room-temperature IQs.

You can howl at the moon all you want but the House Committee will hold public hearings and those hearings will prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt that the one-term, twice-impeached former guy tried to stage a coup. The fact that he and his henchmen were incompetent will come as a surprise to absolutely nobody.

[PVMonger]

Thank you to the 50 republicans and 2 democrats who stopped another big wasteful spending spree. BBB would have dramatically increased inflation and hurt the majority of Americans.

And yet the majority of Americans (70% by some reports) support the BBB plan. https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog...pular-all-year and https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-pol...ericans-110321.

Of course, since the poll contradicts the narrative for the fascists, they will say that polls don't mean anything. What they really mean is that polls they don't agree with don't mean anything. Polls that they agree with are valid.

In fact, 50 RethugliKKKan Senators represent something less than 25% of the American people.

[ScatManDoo]

Ivanka might not throw Daddy under the bus but, frankly, it doesn't matter. History will prove that RethugliKKKans are idiots.

I think a big surprise is in the works.

You are right that TrumpShit is going down no matter what.

But Ivanka turned 40 years old last year, and the rest of her life is with her same-age husband, not some 75 year old hamburgler.

Ivanka and Jerod ran as fast as possible from TrumpShit.

I don't think they have been in the same room since they fled soon after the failed coup.

Ivanka & Jared have a simple choice (I think they made it in January right after Ivanka tried to talk daddy down from his glee over the rioting).

TrumpShit will definitely drag Ivanka down with the corruption of The Trump Oganization's frauds.

Unless she breaks free.

Any good student of Grandpa Fred Trump and Roy Cohn know that when someone's becomes a problem.

You best dump them in the gutter.

Or prison, where they can no longer hurt you.

There never was any room in the Kosher home that Jared and Ivanka keep.

Just room for the kids, that need both of their parents.

Jared is a lifelong democrat that gave money when Hilary ran in 2008.

That was the year where Jared gave his endorsement to Barack Obama in his campaign against John McCain.

Ivanka is a real Trump. She demands loyalty.

But doesn't give any if it costs.

Donald Trump is a criminal and he belongs in jail, with Ivanka's help, or not.

Ivanka is going to help herself.

[Cali Guy]

What the 50 Repubs and 2 Dems in the Senate "protected" America from by not voting for the Build Back Better Act was reduced inflation and dramatically reduced child and health care costs:

If the Senate wants to address inflation, it should pass Build Back Better

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...ld-back-better

And all for less initial cost than the cost of the godawful Trump / Repub so-called Tax and Jobs Act that accomplished nothing except produce fewer jobs in the three years pre-Trump's Pandemic with it than the three prior years without it.

But there is still time to separate some parts of it and make sure every American has the opportunity to see exactly who votes against reduced inflation, child and healthcare costs before the midterms.

Thank you to the 50 republicans and 2 democrats who stopped another big wasteful spending spree. BBB would have dramatically increased inflation and hurt the majority of Americans.

[Canada]

Nobody is distracting from anything. Well, the fascists are. Because the last thing the fascists want is for a light to shine on January 6th. That's why the fascists are howling at the moon about Biden.

Sorry but We The People, the people with brains (not RethugliKKKans) won't let you off the hook. Fascists were the ones who tried to stage a coup. The fact that they were stupid (remember that the one-term, twice impeached former guy liked them that way) meant that they failed.

Ivanka might not throw Daddy under the bus but, frankly, it doesn't matter. History will prove that RethugliKKKans are idiots.

History will prove again that nothing is going to happen to Trump from January 6 protest. Just like nothing happened to Trump with Russia collusion. This is just a far left fantasy that they can talk about over and over and over again because they need to distract their mind from Biden failures. Nothing will happen and the idiots are going to repeat it over and over and over again.

[Canada]

What the 50 Repubs and 2 Dems in the Senate "protected" America from by not voting for the Build Back Better Act was reduced inflation and dramatically reduced child and health care costs:

If the Senate wants to address inflation, it should pass Build Back Better

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...ld-back-better

And all for less initial cost than the cost of the godawful Trump / Repub so-called Tax and Jobs Act that accomplished nothing except produce fewer jobs in the three years pre-Trump's Pandemic with it than the three prior years without it.

But there is still time to separate some parts of it and make sure every American has the opportunity to see exactly who votes against reduced inflation, child and healthcare costs before the midterms.

52 smart senators voted to stop increasing inflation. These 52 smart senators deserve an award for stopping Biden and far left from reckless spending. These senators are hero's and the American people are grateful. The American people know who voted to save America and they know the 48 dumb asses who tried to push this far left wishlist. This proves most democrats are smart.

[PVMonger]

I believe you that you are not a democrat. You are definitely a socialist. Your posts gave you away.

Your posts paint you as a perfect supporter of the one-term, twice-impeached former guy. Remember that he said that he liked his supporters to have room-temperature IQs.

He, too, called Democrats "socialists", "communists" etcetera because their stances were more left than his (and your) beliefs that slavery and the holocaust were great ideas.

He, too, is a fascist. He, too, is a racist. He, too, is a xenophobe. He, too, is a homophobe. He, too, is a misogynist. He, too, wanted to take America back to the 1850's when it was legal to own people and only white, straight, male property-owners could vote.

But the real reason the one-term, twice-impeached former guy likes his supporters to have a room-temperature IQ is because he knows that they won't be able to think for themselves. They need to be told what to think and that's the purpose of calling everything except wingnut propaganda mills "fake news."

Your posts give you away.

[Elvis 2008]

I believe you that you are not a democrat. You are definitely a socialist. Your posts gave you away.

Yeah exactly. Presidents do not create jobs. If they are doing their jobs right, they are like refs in a football game. They cannot create a great game but they sure as hell can ruin it. Nixon put price controls on oil, supply cratered, and he fucked up the economy. Carter thought the answer was to wear sweaters and ration gasoline (seriously) and Reagan came in and got rid of the price controls and oil was cheap and plentiful for decades, and the economy zoomed. I do not think party affiliation had anything to do with anything, one president was smart and two were morons. Reagan really did not do anything. He just let the players play and made the game fair.

What I have seen now is Republicans are more honest than Dems. Here are quotes of someone I agree with:

"If Democrats had just figured a way to deliver a few things for ordinary people over the years, they would never have lost again. The formula was obvious. Single-payer health care, bulk negotiation of drug prices, antitrust action against Too Big To Fail banks or Silicon Valley's surveillance monopolists really anything that demonstrates a willingness to prioritize voters over the takeover artists and CEOs who fund the party would have given them enduring credibility. Do that, while retaining at least a sliver of the reputation for fighting for civil rights won in the sixties, and how can you lose, ever?

I am in favor of all four of those items and care deeply about civil rights. The Democrats could deliver on all those items right now, but they will not. If any of these five issues came to a vote, and they won't, they will play the game Glenn Greenwald talked about where one Democrat votes against the bill so it fails and the Dems curse Republicans.

But my biggest gripe is who Biden's biggest supporters are: "Democrats under Biden have become the party of the nomenklatura. Their base is the slice of hyper-educated, jargon-spouting bureaucrats whose ranks are growing thanks to their skill at siphoning resources to themselves before they have a chance to reach a wider base of regular people. These new commissars are the most hated people in the country, and they're the Democrats' main constituency. Even species of viper and corporate parasite is swimming in riches now all thriving but lionized so long as they mask appropriately and genuflect to "norms. " Meanwhile, the party increasingly demonizes every species of complaining underclass person as a right-wing enemy, even the minorities."

Thing about the Democratic douches is how clueless they are about who they vote for.

This is what the same author said about Biden:

"The younger Biden was a feisty, unscrupulous hawk who affected to be a champion of the little guy while selling them out to the credit industry."

And they expect him to get drug prices down? That is why the Democratic douches are crazy. All Biden will do is blame high drug prices on Republicans and maybe saying it while wearing a sweater.

[EihTooms]

Already this year? "This year" as you put it, has been the whole 22 days, which happened to coincide with unprecedented rise of Omicron. Oh humanity!

When Covid began spreading, The Stable Genius lost 10,000 points, but that was fine by you, right?

When DJIA crashed 2,500 points in Jan 2018 were you concerned?

How about a 3,000 points plunge later in December? No Covid back then, huh?

Calling him a hack is unfair. I checked his link and found it credible. I think you should remove all recessions caused largely by external factors (Lincoln, Truman and Wilson should not be the part of this argument due to the magnitude of the calamities they had to deal with). But if you're objective, you'll still have to come to the same conclusion. Republican presidents HAVE PRESIDED over many more recessions than the Democrats. Sorry, but that's what the numbers tell you.

Now, these numbers may not be as straightforward as the OP sees them. There might be other factors that need to be taken into account. But at least his opinions are based on facts, while "opinions" of the likes of Elvis, Canada and that fake ex-Democrat over here, are based on -- wait, there is a scientific term for it, I think it's called brain fart..

Imo, likening Repubs to American democracy detractors and arsonists and Dems to American democracy defenders and firefighters in this regard is totally valid.

For many, many decades, Repubs have carved out a niche in the political scene to prove that this government of the people doesn't work; "Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem," said the Repub Party's most iconic leader to war whoops and cheers from his devoted followers. And he wasn't talking about some monarchy or dictatorship in a far away land. No, he was talking about this government of, by and for the American people. The Big Lie "Stop the Steal" Anti-American Democracy Insurrectionist Leader is the second greatest icon of the Republican Party. And not a random choice, either. By passionate and heartfelt design.

Sorry, but Abe and Teddy don't count since there is no way either of them wouldn't be shut out of the first Repub primary debate based on their "woke" critical race theory and tree-hugging environmental sensibilities. Oh, and they were both more than 100 years ago so who gives a fuck.

Repubs are either happy to just stand by while a fire smolders and rages in every corner of the American economic house or, if that isn't enough to prove how "government doesn't work", they'll happily soak it with fuel and strike a match. Their record of negative results and everything their leaders have proposed and passed certainly proves that point.

Dems try to show that this government of, by and for the American people does work. And their record of positive results and everything their leaders have proposed and passed proves that point as well.

That has nothing to do with whether or not Dems are "all good" and Repubs are "all bad" or that Dems are blameless when things don't go as well as planned or that Repubs contributed nothing to a positive outcome even if by accident.

It's just that searching for shades of grey on this issue is a silly mental exercise.

It is a silly and insignificant point to even try to make in light of the fact that 13 of the 17 Recessions in the past 100 years as cited by the truly official go-to source for these things, NBER, started under Repubs, including all of the half dozen or so "Great" ones while the 4 under Dems were probably the only ones that could not be avoided or the Dems would have avoided them. And they were mitigated and resolved by those Dems so quickly they are among the briefest and most insignificant blips on the radar of America's economic history.

Are there thieves and liars in both parties. Even a relative failure or two? Sure. So what?

Are there thieves and liars among firefighters and saintly grandma's among arsonists? Sure. So what?

I still can't think of one good reason to work very hard to find and cite "very fine people on both sides. " The stakes have always been too high to waste time and effort on silliness like that.

It's really worse than silliness. We arrived at Trump and the spectacular mess of death and economic destruction he made of everything right up to the greatest threat to American democracy since the Civil War every bit as much from the efforts of "Bothsiders" as the from efforts of those who whoop and cheer whenever one of their Repub leaders recall and restate Reagan's declaration of war against America, the America-hating screeds of Rush Limbaugh in the past, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity now and almost everyone else who ever hosted a show on FUX News Channel.

[EihTooms]

Democrats are embarrassed by this presidency, the squad and political wokeness. The true democrats in congress are protecting us from socialism. Democratic Party has the presidency, the House and the senate and can't get anything done. They are trying to push a socialist agenda and the republicans and democrats aren't buying it. The American people aren't buying it.

What the 50 Repubs and 2 Dems in the Senate "protected" America from by not voting for the Build Back Better Act was reduced inflation and dramatically reduced child and health care costs:

If the Senate wants to address inflation, it should pass Build Back Better

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...ld-back-better

And all for less initial cost than the cost of the godawful Trump / Repub so-called Tax and Jobs Act that accomplished nothing except produce fewer jobs in the three years pre-Trump's Pandemic with it than the three prior years without it.

But there is still time to separate some parts of it and make sure every American has the opportunity to see exactly who votes against reduced inflation, child and healthcare costs before the midterms.