American Politics

[PVMonger]

Wow, I don't think I've seen an argument as laughable as this one, and I thought I'd seen them all.

Postpone? Did I miss a full-scale invasion? Has it already begun and I missed the news?

Putin is a thug and a player. He played Trump for 4 years like a flute. Now that he can't get his way like before, he's muddying the waters again, pushing as hard as the world would allow him before backing down eventually. And I believe he will eventually back down and frame it as a victory for the internal consumption.

No shit, huh?

We're talking the same Trump who publicly asked Russia to dig up dirt on Hillary?

Same Trump who tried to water down the Congress' sanctions and then delayed signing them for as long as he could?.

The fascists who post will say that everything you posted is "fake news" because they didn't hear it on state TV. ROFL.

[Axel Heyst]

Wow, I don't think I've seen an argument as laughable as this one, and I thought I'd seen them all.

Postpone? Did I miss a full-scale invasion? Has it already begun and I missed the news?

Putin is a thug and a player. He played Trump for 4 years like a flute. Now that he can't get his way like before, he's muddying the waters again, pushing as hard as the world would allow him before backing down eventually. And I believe he will eventually back down and frame it as a victory for the internal consumption.

Ok, you believe "he (Putin) will eventually back down and frame it as a victory for the internal consumption. " That is definitely one of the 3 possible outcomes of the situation and I am not surprised that you believe this scenario is the most probable based on your overt political bias.

The 2 more likely outcomes, however, are either 1) Putin invades or 2) the West (Biden) makes significant concessions so a Russian invasion is not necessary IE the installation of a "puppet" regime and an end of Ukrainian sovereignty. Notice the proper use of the word "puppet".

Like I said, we will see how this crises unfolds. The interesting point in your statement is that Putin "will eventually back down and frame it as a victory for the internal consumption" because it leaves room in the American Left's internal propaganda machine to score anything short of an invasion as a victory for Uncle Joe. But sovereignty and independence is a verifiable state of affairs. They can not be spinned, although if the situation calls for it, I am sure that the American Left will try. And that is the big difference between the Left and the rest of us. If Joe Biden actually stops an invasion or the political take over of the Ukraine I will be surprised like all hell, but I will admit Uncle Joe did good. If the opposite occurs we all know you and your Party will never admit the failure / blunder. You can bet on it.

[Canada]

Come on man! Use your common sense. If Trump were Putin's puppet than why did Putin postpone invading the Ukraine until Uncle Joe became President. The answer is as plain as the nose on your face. Putin knew that if Russia invaded the Ukraine while Trump was in the White House, Trump would have destroyed the Russian Economy by cutting off all of Russia's financial access to the Western Banking System. What is Joe going to do? Well, we shall see and if I am wrong about Joe Biden I will admit. But I seriously doubt Uncle Joe will do more than make a teleprompter rehearsed speech and issue a few minor sanctions.

X. I have given you the benefit of the doubt up to now because I thought you are an actual punter and have made some ISG contributions to the Brazil forums. But if you keep going on with this delusional RussiaRussiaRussia, TrumpTrumpTrump, HillaryHillaryHillary BS, I will have to adjust my opinion of you downward. Open your eyes!

Putin respected Trump and a strong USA. Now with a weak frail president Putin is taking advantage of the situation. China and Russia are the big winners of the 2020 election. The American people are the big losers of the 2020 election.

[Canada]

Trump considerably better than Biden? We talking the same Trump that tried to overthrow an election because he lost? The same Trump that is openly a racist, misogynistic autocrat want to be who totally fucked up the pandemic and talked shit about the vaccine while he took it and didn't tell anyone at first?

Biden isn't the 2nd coming of Lincoln but on his worst day he's better than Trump.

You are wrong. The last 12 months prove Biden is worse than Trump. From the economy to inflation to foreign policy Trump proved he better for USA than Biden.

[Canada]

And here is yet another new member who came to the sex mongering forum to beatch about Biden.

Seems like some of our resident pundits feel a little lonely.

You are the minority now. Republicans, democrats and independents are concerned about our incompetent president. Only the socialists and fools are still supporting his far left agenda.

[EihTooms]

Biden's weak foreign policy is definitely making the market take a hit. Another bad day for Biden. He has only had 370 bad days in his presidency though. As bad as Trump was Biden is making him look great again. I think the majority of Americans can see that Trump was considerably better than Biden. Who would have guessed?

The market took a hit today? How so?

The broad USA market as measured by the S&P 500 or, better, the Wilshire Total Market 5000 closed today down only about 7% or 8% from its all-time record high close. That isn't even enough to be considered a health-restoring "Correction" yet, which is typically when it is down 10% or more from its recent all-time high close while a Bear Market decline is 20% or more.

We are not even halfway to a Bear Market decline or even tip-toeing into a health-restoring "Correction" territory yet. Biden's first year saw some 70 new all-time record high closes and Biden's stock market appears to be stubbornly resistant to even approaching halfway to a Bear Market level.

My god, you must have been having heart attacks when the stock market plunged into two Bear Market declines under "great again" Trump, one every two years of his failed presidency. I suppose that was because of Trump's fabulous foreign policy agenda and results throughout his term, so much better than Biden's, right?

[Xpartan]

Lord father put a hard. The same Biden that said if the democrats lose in November that the elections are illegitimate? The same Biden that has the USA with the highest level of inflation in 40 years. Look at those gas prices.

People jokey yes.

And here is yet another new member who came to the sex mongering forum to beatch about Biden.

Seems like some of our resident pundits feel a little lonely.

[Xpartan]

Come on man! Use your common sense. If Trump were Putin's puppet than why did Putin postpone invading the Ukraine until Uncle Joe became President.

Wow, I don't think I've seen an argument as laughable as this one, and I thought I'd seen them all.

Postpone? Did I miss a full-scale invasion? Has it already begun and I missed the news?

Putin is a thug and a player. He played Trump for 4 years like a flute. Now that he can't get his way like before, he's muddying the waters again, pushing as hard as the world would allow him before backing down eventually. And I believe he will eventually back down and frame it as a victory for the internal consumption.

The answer is as plain as the nose on your face. Putin knew that if Russia invaded the Ukraine while Trump was in the White House, Trump would have destroyed the Russian Economy by cutting off all of Russia's financial access to the Western Banking System.

No shit, huh?

We're talking the same Trump who publicly asked Russia to dig up dirt on Hillary?

Same Trump who tried to water down the Congress' sanctions and then delayed signing them for as long as he could?

Same Trump who publicly said it was OK for Putin to keep Crimea?

Same Trump who publicly said he trusted Putin over his own security agencies?

Same Trump who laughed with Lavrov and Kislyak after firing Comey for Russian TASS (having locked our own news agencies out of the meeting)?

Same Trump who shared classified intelligence with Putin?

Same Trump who incessantly criticized NATO and who once said he wanted to withdraw?

Same Trump who, contrary to all diplomatic traditions, went to his meetings with Putin alone without even the interpreter?

I could go on and on and on about Trump caressing Putin's balls, and I'm perfectly prepared to back all the above and then some with reliable sources.

And often with Trump's own words because that's what degenerates do. They blurb.

But just to be clear, we're talking about THE SAME DUDE, correct?

I have given you the benefit of the doubt up to now because I thought you are an actual punter and have made some ISG contributions to the Brazil forums. But if you keep going on with this delusional RussiaRussiaRussia, TrumpTrumpTrump, HillaryHillaryHillary BS, I will have to adjust my opinion of you downward.

Oh gee, I'll gladly take this risk. Knock yourself out.

[PVMonger]

Lord father put a hard. The same Biden that said if the democrats lose in November that the elections are illegitimate? The same Biden that has the USA with the highest level of inflation in 40 years. Look at those gas prices.

People jokey yes.

If you fascists would learn to think for yourselves, the US would be a much better place. But you can't.

The President has no control over the gas prices. I realize that as a supporter of the one-term, twice-impeached former guy, you've never heard of "supply and demand". And you evidently have been living off the planet for the past 2+ years because you have obviously never heard of the pandemic. Or OPEC. But FUX "News" doesn't report on that stuff. They'd rather rant about important stuff like Mars Candy Company changing the M&M cartoon characters. I guess that's the kind of stuff that interests the deplorables.

For all of the trumpers, there are 3 main reasons why gasoline prices are up.

1. Demand is up as Americans take to the road again;.

2. Hurricane Ida slowed down US oil production and refining; and.

3. Energy markets around the world are in a crunch.

It is all here in this article https://businessinsider.mx/why-are-g...-10/?r=US&IR=T But, hey, it is "Business Insider" so what do they know. They must be fake news, right? After all, Tucker "Nobody in their right mind would believe anything I say" Carlson told you to blame Biden so that's what you do. But the one-term, twice-impeached former guy said that he likes his supporters dumb so you and the rest of the fascists oblige.

[Trinimoses]

Trump considerably better than Biden? We talking the same Trump that tried to overthrow an election because he lost? The same Trump that is openly a racist, misogynistic autocrat want to be who totally fucked up the pandemic and talked shit about the vaccine while he took it and didn't tell anyone at first?

Biden isn't the 2nd coming of Lincoln but on his worst day he's better than Trump.

Lord father put a hard. The same Biden that said if the democrats lose in November that the elections are illegitimate? The same Biden that has the USA with the highest level of inflation in 40 years. Look at those gas prices.

People jokey yes.

[ScatManDoo]

Trump considerably better than Biden? We talking the same Trump that tried to overthrow an election because he lost? The same Trump that is openly a racist, misogynistic autocrat want to be who totally fucked up the pandemic and talked shit about the vaccine while he took it and didn't tell anyone at first?

Don't forget he cheated on his wife while she was caring for their newborn, by raw dogging a porn actress.

But since this is a hooker board.

That might be a plus.

[Big Daddy 1906]

Biden's weak foreign policy is definitely making the market take a hit. Another bad day for Biden. He has only had 370 bad days in his presidency though. As bad as Trump was Biden is making him look great again. I think the majority of Americans can see that Trump was considerably better than Biden. Who would have guessed?

Trump considerably better than Biden? We talking the same Trump that tried to overthrow an election because he lost? The same Trump that is openly a racist, misogynistic autocrat want to be who totally fucked up the pandemic and talked shit about the vaccine while he took it and didn't tell anyone at first?

Biden isn't the 2nd coming of Lincoln but on his worst day he's better than Trump.

[AllTooHorny]

See, we USED TO have a president who was a puppet for Putin, and I wonder why it never bothered you at all.

But you can relax, he's gone now.

Gone for now.

[PVMonger]

LOL. That's priceless. You open by asserting that presidents don't create jobs and then launch into a description of what Reagan did to improve the economy and create jobs. Yes, he did things to produce and preside over what was then the deepest Great Repub Recession since the Great Repub Depression of the late 1920's / early 1930's, drove the unemployment rate into ten consecutive months of 10%+ figures and achieved a final annual average jobs creation record that pales in comparison to Carter, LBJ and Clinton, each of whom did the exact opposite of what Reagan did.

But you certainly made your point that presidents do indeed create or destroy jobs and can produce and preside over Great Recessions or avert and avoid them.

Far from being mere refs, Presidents are stewards of the economy. They propose what goes or does not go into budgets and legislation. They lay out full economic agendas.

Of course, it is then up to Congress to go with it or reject it. And history clearly shows when Repub presidents largely get their way, as Reagan did in his first year in office, what follows is economic disaster and all too often a Great Recession vs when Dem presidents largely get their way, as happened for FDR, LBJ, Clinton, Obama and even Biden so far, what follows is historic jobs creation, economic expansion and, guess what, no Great Recessions.

Presidents are faced with dozens of economic decisions on proposals and plans every day that can either lead to more jobs created and economic expansion for the country or to jobs destruction and economic contraction..

But that's what happens when people support the one-term, twice-impeached former guy. They don't know how to think for themselves so they post arguments that make the other side's points for them. And they don't even know it. That's why he like his supporters to have room-temperature IQs.

[PVMonger]

Your fake sources are still lies. Quoting fake news sources are lies so why do you bother to waste our time with them.

The only sources fascists trust come from FUX "News", OANN, InfoWars and other "state TV" propaganda sources. Oh, and the one-term, twice-impeached former guy.

But fascists forget (not that they knew anyway because the former guy liked his supporters to have a room-temperature IQ) that another fascist regime beat them to the punch. 80-some-odd years ago. In Germany. All this "fake news" stuff started then. That's why the one-term, twice-impeached former guy liked his supporters dumber than a box of rocks. He could get them to give him money, he could get them to storm the Capitol, he could them to hope for a pardon, but eventually he'd throw them under the bus. And they'd get fired for their part in the insurrection, too, but somehow the Orange Buffoon ignored their cries for help. And cry they did (and still do). But they're too ignorant to realize that he was using them.

But we know that you, Canada and Elvis and a few others fit the mold of the one-term, twice-impeached former guy's supporters to a tee. And we're laughing at you. Not with you. At you. Because nobody can believe that a supposed adult can be so blind. But it is '1984' (the novel, not the year) all over again.

Why do you waste your time?