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09-13-22 18:57 #10146
Posts: 5454There. Fixed it.
Originally Posted by ScatManDoo [View Original Post]
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09-13-22 18:19 #10145
Posts: 2579NYT aka shit drenched TP ala some in this thread
LOL they do this with everything.
If they aren't fudging the stats like ET they are lying with omissions.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/di...13/id/1087244/
https://ilovetheupperwestside.com/fo...u-s-news-list/
So typical, the left knows they can't "win" unless they cheat.
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09-13-22 18:16 #10144
Posts: 2344When TrumpShit goes to trial, he will face numerous charges.
Including the three criminal statues listed in the legal FBI search warrant. None of those three criminal statues require the stolen and hidden documents be classified.
The crimes were stealing government records and property, which TrumpShit does not own.
Biden and Fauci are too old farts that got immunized, so they did not get seriously ill when they got Trump's plague. Immunization worked for them and millions of other old folks like me.
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09-13-22 00:49 #10143
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09-12-22 20:57 #10142
Posts: 1119Help needed with "political schizophrenia"?
Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
But if you're asking my opinion, then you could always seek help from your QAnon/Repubs brethren, with any psychiatry options. Especially those with degrees from Trump University.
Again, sorry, I don't suffer from your affliction, but check with your comrades.
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09-12-22 20:30 #10141
Posts: 1119Political schizophrenia, what is it this week?
Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
Who even the f#*K cares, what the hell, you're calling yourself, this week?
Your "political schizophrenia", is right on track with well known QAnon/Repubs quackery of untruths and disinformation, dressed up to look like "bothsidesism" and vice-versa.
No need to change what I've always known to be true. I don't suffer from your affliction!
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09-12-22 20:01 #10140
Posts: 1604Tell us, then
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
I'll wait but I won't hold my breath.
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09-12-22 18:28 #10139
Posts: 5454Uh
Originally Posted by JustTK [View Original Post]
Dem economic stewardship results vs Repub economic stewardship results are well documented, recorded and easily reviewed and researched in the data kept by non partisan agencies and entities charged with those responsibilities; the National Bureau of Economic Research, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, even the Federal Reserve, to name a few.
For example, Dems having raised the real minimum wage for millions of American workers over the years while Repubs have largely been resisting and obstructing those efforts is not a matter of unproven faith. It is right there in the state and local employment and wage figures and in the Congressional voting records.
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09-12-22 18:11 #10138
Posts: 5454Btw
Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
So it is extremely disingenuous to then carve out a praise for Trump's numbers as though he got it there as the result of his policies after inheriting a plummetting trajectory for it from his immediate predecessor the same as Clinton and Obama did.
You know that isn't what happened in Trump's case when that is exactly what happened in Clinton and Obama's case.
Your linked chart shows it.
Trump merely sat in his golf cart and let the real median income continue on the upward trajectory it had been heading for years under Obama, who inherited one of the deepest plunges on the metric of all time.
Then it took a sharp dip again in 2020 when Trump's idiotic economic decisions regarding defunding the CDC going back to 2018 came home to roost along with his nearly year long effort to convert a regional viral spread in China into Trump's Pandemic and all of the economic disasters that followed.
It isn't as though every incoming president begins his economic decision-making, policy agenda and stewardship from the same starting point conditions. Far from it.
And in at least 100 years the incoming conditions have never been worse than for the incoming FDR, Barack Obama and Joe Biden administrations.
LOL. I am sure any incoming Dem administration would have loved to have been greeted with conditions as good as those that greeted Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, George W. Bush and Trump.
By stark contrast, NO Repub would have wanted to inherit economic conditions as challenging as those that greeted FDR, JFK / LBJ, Carter, Clinton, Obama and Biden. A Repub would not have had the slighest clue what to do about it except how to make it worse.
As well as the data show the best aspects of the Trump economy was what he inherited from Obama-Biden they also show the worst aspects of Biden's economy is what he inherited from Trump. Which is typical of all incoming Dem vs incoming Repub administrations.
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09-12-22 16:37 #10137
Posts: 1604But that's exactly the problem, isn't it?
Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
And you just used the same pro-tRUMP argument, too, with your "And real median household income rose substantially in 2019 for the first time since the Clinton administration. In 2020 dollars, it was $63,292 during 2000, and had only risen to $63,683 during 2016, the last year of the Obama administration. " statement. You don't want to blame Donnie the Dumbass but you blame Obama because he inherited a recession from W and spent most of his first term trying to fix it.
I can see blaming President Biden if the only country in the world suffering from inflation was the USA. But that's not true, is it? Virtually every country in the world is suffering from inflation, aren't they. Some more, some less but most are suffering from inflation. https://tradingeconomics.com/country...inflation-rate and https://www.ft.com/content/088d3368-...7-a7680d4d81b2 among others. There are many causes for inflation. https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/under...rise-inflation.
Worldwide inflation, post COVID, can be boiled down to the standard inflation cause: too much money chasing too few goods. That's a fact. For example, almost anybody with a functional brain could have predicted a raise in US gasoline prices post COVID by: too much money chasing too few goods. Refineries were shut down during COVID because there was a glut of gasoline. Nobody was driving so demand was down and gasoline prices did what they always do during a period of high supply combined with low demand. They fell. But it is also a fact that most of the supporters of Donnie the Dumbass complained vocally about gasoline prices early on in President Biden's presidency. Now that gasoline prices have fallen for about 90 days in a row, those same complainers haven't uttered word one. I wonder why that it? Because if they blamed President Biden for the high gasoline prices, they'd have to give him credit for the falling prices also. But the complainers on rightwingnut media haven't said boo about gasoline lately so the Moron Brigade doesn't know how to spin it.
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09-12-22 16:16 #10136
Posts: 1782Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
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09-12-22 14:28 #10135
Posts: 1782Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
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09-12-22 14:24 #10134
Posts: 1782Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
And your correct again. That's why every time you criticise the Dems. Their answer is whataboutism. What about Trump, he said this, he did that. Instead of dealing with the issue which is their party's performance. Its why Trump continues to be nr one topic here, bcos its the only means the Dems have to defend their abysmal performance. Classic Whataboutism.
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09-12-22 14:19 #10133
Posts: 1782Originally Posted by ScatManDoo [View Original Post]
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09-12-22 09:06 #10132
Posts: 5454Thanks. But the data show the only good parts were what he inherited from Obama-Biden
Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
I have provided dozens of links to the reports of him doing that. Here is but one:
Exclusive: U.S. slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronavirus outbreak
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN21C3N5
Followed by his critical year 2020 of self-serving lies that could not have been written better in a script titled. "I Was a Pandemic Producing World Leader."
Do I even need to repost the links for the hundreds of times he lied to the world about what he knew about it, no different than if he had personally intended to convert a regional spread in China into the Trump's Pandemic it became?
And all while he was still working as hard as he could to further defund scientific research, testing and treatment for it.
Trump budget cuts funding for health, science, environment agencies
https://www.washingtonpost.com/scien...c1c_story.html
Meanwhile, his pre Trump's Pandemic economy was only fair, below average compared to what we had under the 11 most recent presidents. Too bad he flushed $2.5+ Trillion down the shitter with his godawful December 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act just to squeak out a below average result prior to his ultimate total crap results by the end of his term.
Which, in book, reduces his pre Trump's Pandemic results from "below average" to "crap" as well.
Data show Trump didn't 'build' a great economy. He inherited it.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/mee...rited-n1237793
Don't believe the hype: Trumps economy was plummeting even before the pandemic
https://www.salon.com/2020/10/12/don...demic_partner/