American Politics

[PVMonger]

So, to what country do you expect TrumpShit to flee to in exile?

In the prior century there were over 50 different known countries (documented) that were hosts of ousted dictators.

The leading exile destinations were the United States, the United Kingdom, Russia, Argentina, and France.

I expect it will be Russia, where he's earned a double-agent pension (vested in it one week after stealing documents from the White House on moving day, Tuesday 1/19/2021).

My vote would be Russia as the first place he'd go.

Second place would be Hungary since their leader is a mini-Donnie-The-Dumbass.

Third would be Turkey although not likely.

[Tiny 12]

Yes, and may I remind you you said an utterly inaccurate Clinton-bashing claim by a "my lord and savior" QAnon Repub was "probably right."

No, I didn't say bills that any Repubs vote for are "bad". Just that if it is a Dem-proposed bill it will be diminished in its positive results with every Repub vote for it. If it is a rare Repub-proposed bill it is generally improved with every Dem vote for it. 95%+ Dem-supported bills are bound to be effective and revered. 95%+ Repub-supported bills are bound to be crap wastes of money. As a rule.

There were several amendments to Social Security before and after 1983. It always must be tweaked for age demographics and contribution limits to "save it."

The only thing special about the one Reagan signed was that it included taxing Social Security for the first time. Reagan raised taxes, which would shock typically pro-Repub MSM today. Yeah, the "Great Economic Repub Icon" Teflon Ronnie raised a lot of taxes on a lot of Americans. To help pay for stuff.

The same way Clinton and the Dems' 1993 legislation produced those balanced budgets and budget surpluses in the following years. They raised taxes on the right people. "Because of", not just "after".

Clinton ran in 1992 on welfare reform. When Newt's Congress wasn't busy sniffing around Bill's balls and dick and not shutting down the government at a cost of millions, Clinton got it done.

In addition to giving serious consideration that some inaccurate Clinton / Dem-bashing statement by a QAnon Repub is "probably right", give this a thought:

Shall we dance through a short list of legislation passed when a Dem was in the White House and Dems controlled both Houses of Congress?

Social Security. A favorite of yours I believe.

Medicare. Ditto above.

Medicaid.

Unemployment Insurance.

The Civil Rights Act.

401 ks For Rank and File Employees.

The 1993 Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act.

The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.

The Affordable Care Act.

The American Rescue Plan.

The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act.

The CHIPS and Science Act of 2022.

The Inflation Reduction Act.

To name just a few.

Ok, now it's your turn or anyone else's turn. Please list a few legislation highlights from when a Repub was in the White House and Repubs controlled both Houses of Congress.

I am anxious to see how the latter and when there is a governance "split" between the two major Parties compares so favorably to what is accomplished when Dems control of the Executive and Legislative Branch.

What are you talking about? I like Bill Clinton. I'd rather have a beer with him than any other living ex-president. We could sit around and swap stories about poontang. I'd love to get the inside story on Monica Lewinsky. What possessed him to take up with her? He was the leader of the free world for goodness sake. She must have given an outstanding BBBJ.

The 1983 Amendment to the Social Security Act was the biggie. I believe it increased contribution %'s to where they are now. All adjustments since then have been small potatoes. Yes, Reagan and Tip O'Neill and others increased contributions. And in the process took a Ponzi scheme and changed it into a lesser sort of Ponzi scheme, that wouldn't go bankrupt in 1983.

My preference is for something like the Singapore's Central Provident fund, where employees and their employers pony up lots of money (37% of a person's salary) for investment for retirement, medical care, a downpayment on a house, and higher education. Or, for social security, something like Australia's superannuation scheme. But given the USA is unlikely to adopt either of those, making sure social security didn't go bankrupt is admirable.

Please note that I've already highlighted some of the good things that came out of bipartisanship in the Reagan and Clinton administrations. Just because you highlighted some legislation that was passed when Democrats controlled government does not make me feel compelled to highlight legislation that was passed when Republicans were in power. It does however make me feel compelled to slam some of the measures you mentioned.

Social Security.

Medicare.

Medicaid.

Unemployment Insurance.

The Affordable Care Act.

Social security, again, is a Ponzi scheme that depends on new entrants to the scheme to pay off people who were in it earlier. And the money that is set aside is invested in low return Treasury securities. Medical costs are totally out of control in the USA, over 18% of GDP! Crazy! The ACA, while admirable in extending insurance to more people, was doubling down on a failed system. Again, if I were dictator, I'd replace all of the above with something that makes sense like the Central Provident Fund. No points for Democrats for this legislation.

The American Rescue Plan.

The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act.

The CHIPS and Science Act of 2022.

The Inflation Reduction Act.

Great examples of pork heavy legislation targeted to corporate interests and citizens to get them to channel more contributions and votes to the Democratic Party, respectively! The American Rescue Plan supercharged inflation. The Infrastructure and CHIPs acts were bipartisan. The Inflation Reduction Act had "0" to do with inflation, and everything to do with channeling tax credits to smug upper income suburban Americans who want to feel good by driving EV's. And throwing money at green businesses that may or may not survive, but that will contribute to Democratic Party candidates and causes.

The other items, I'm too lazy to read up on them. I believe the Civil Rights Act had bipartisan support.

[Villainy]

Donald J Trump aka God of All Gods, Our Supreme Leader

Jajajaja, I think you're looking up when you should be looking down. As in it won't be a trident he's holding it will be a pitchfork.

[EihTooms]

The demonstrably Repub-leaning RealClearPolitics site and the highly regarded FiveThirtyEight site are both showing the Dems expanding their lead in those ever popular Poll of Polls questions:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...vote-7361.html

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

So the Repubs really need to get those Big Liar, Election-denying QAnon Repub Loons placed in their strategic state and local positions in order to overturn the legitimate vote results favoring Dems ASAP if they're going to squeak out a Congressional "win" here and there this Nobember:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=buHIY1dDaeA

Meanwhile, Joe Biden continues to score the highest Job Approval and Favorability rating on those sites of any party leader, each House of Congress and the Repub Party front-runner for the 2024 presidential nomination.

[EihTooms]

So, to what country do you expect TrumpShit to flee to in exile?

In the prior century there were over 50 different known countries (documented) that were hosts of ousted dictators.

The leading exile destinations were the United States, the United Kingdom, Russia, Argentina, and France.

I expect it will be Russia, where he's earned a double-agent pension (vested in it one week after stealing documents from the White House on moving day, Tuesday 1/19/2021).

Wherever it is, if he can be joined by the violent hillbilly suckers who send him their government checks to keep him barely afloat financially, likely the only "honest" money he has ever banked since daddy died and that money got flushed down the shitter, then Letitia James will be cited in history as a Great American Heroine.

[EihTooms]

May I repeat myself, "I don't know jack about the Glass-Steagall Act."

Social Security would have gone bankrupt if not for the 1983 Amendments. Since you kindly pulled info from a think tank dear to my heart, the Cato Institute, I'll try to repay the favor. This is from the CBPP, a left of center organization.

https://www.cbpp.org/blog/social-security-its-not-1983

From the piece, "On April 20,1983, President Reagan signed major Social Security reform legislation, which Congress had passed by large bipartisan majorities. The program's actuaries had warned that unless policymakers acted Social Security would be unable to continue paying full benefits in July 1983. But soon after the law's enactment, the trustees certified that the trust funds wouldn't become insolvent until sometime outside their 75-year window for evaluating the program's long-term finances that is, until after the late 2050's....While Social Security isn't in crisis, 1983 does have lessons for us. One is the importance of bipartisanship; much of the credit for pushing a deal sometimes ascribed to the so-called Greenspan Commission actually belongs to then-Speaker Tip O'Neill and President Ronald Reagan and pragmatists from both parties. ".

Take a look at the last column in the first table in the following.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4a3.html

The growth in asset reserves in the "Old-Age, Survivors and Disability Insurance Trust Funds," from $24.9 billion in 1983 to $2.9 trillion at present, is due almost entirely to changes in funding and spending provided for in the 1983 amendments.

You said you believe that bills that are passed with ANY Republican support are bad bills. So I can't sensibly argue with you about Clinton and Gingrich, any more than I could sensibly argue with a Trumpster about election fraud in 2020..

Yes, and may I remind you you said an utterly inaccurate Clinton-bashing claim by a "my lord and savior" QAnon Repub was "probably right."

No, I didn't say bills that any Repubs vote for are "bad". Just that if it is a Dem-proposed bill it will be diminished in its positive results with every Repub vote for it. If it is a rare Repub-proposed bill it is generally improved with every Dem vote for it. 95%+ Dem-supported bills are bound to be effective and revered. 95%+ Repub-supported bills are bound to be crap wastes of money. As a rule.

There were several amendments to Social Security before and after 1983. It always must be tweaked for age demographics and contribution limits to "save it."

The only thing special about the one Reagan signed was that it included taxing Social Security for the first time. Reagan raised taxes, which would shock typically pro-Repub MSM today. Yeah, the "Great Economic Repub Icon" Teflon Ronnie raised a lot of taxes on a lot of Americans. To help pay for stuff.

The same way Clinton and the Dems' 1993 legislation produced those balanced budgets and budget surpluses in the following years. They raised taxes on the right people. "Because of", not just "after".

Clinton ran in 1992 on welfare reform. When Newt's Congress wasn't busy sniffing around Bill's balls and dick and not shutting down the government at a cost of millions, Clinton got it done.

In addition to giving serious consideration that some inaccurate Clinton / Dem-bashing statement by a QAnon Repub is "probably right", give this a thought:

Shall we dance through a short list of legislation passed when a Dem was in the White House and Dems controlled both Houses of Congress?

Social Security. A favorite of yours I believe.

Medicare. Ditto above.

Medicaid.

Unemployment Insurance.

The Civil Rights Act.

401 ks For Rank and File Employees.

The 1993 Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act.

The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.

The Affordable Care Act.

The American Rescue Plan.

The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act.

The CHIPS and Science Act of 2022.

The Inflation Reduction Act.

To name just a few.

Ok, now it's your turn or anyone else's turn. Please list a few legislation highlights from when a Repub was in the White House and Repubs controlled both Houses of Congress.

I am anxious to see how the latter and when there is a governance "split" between the two major Parties compares so favorably to what is accomplished when Dems control of the Executive and Legislative Branch.

[MarquisdeSade1]

You have really gone off the deep end with your headline: God (aka Trump) saved America in 2016.

If this was a public forum, I'd say you won the "Dumb Internet Comment Of The Century" award.

https://nypost.com/2021/08/26/hillar...-the-hamptons/

Hillary and bubba 2 low life white trash grifters that belong in prison!!

[ScatManDoo]

Yes you are right. Sanctuary city but they had the National Guard kick the illegals off the island. Those are your compassionate democrats. Hypocrisy at its finest.

What news programs do you watch?

That have left you so uninformed of what really happened?

[Tiny 12]

May I ask what on earth would lead you to suspect anything said about Glass-Steagall in that post or anywhere else is correct?

It is incorrect:

https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis...t-myth-reality

Just wondering. Are sources like that post where you got the idea that Ronald Reagan and later Newt Gingrich had anything to do with "saving Social Security" etc or anything other than obstructing and diminishing a much better Clinton / Dem economy in the 1990's than the historically positive one we had despite the Gingrich's Repub Congress' zero votes for the Clinton / Dem legislation and efforts to produce it?

May I repeat myself, "I don't know jack about the Glass-Steagall Act."

Social Security would have gone bankrupt if not for the 1983 Amendments. Since you kindly pulled info from a think tank dear to my heart, the Cato Institute, I'll try to repay the favor. This is from the CBPP, a left of center organization.

https://www.cbpp.org/blog/social-security-its-not-1983

From the piece, "On April 20,1983, President Reagan signed major Social Security reform legislation, which Congress had passed by large bipartisan majorities. The program's actuaries had warned that unless policymakers acted Social Security would be unable to continue paying full benefits in July 1983. But soon after the law's enactment, the trustees certified that the trust funds wouldn't become insolvent until sometime outside their 75-year window for evaluating the program's long-term finances that is, until after the late 2050's....While Social Security isn't in crisis, 1983 does have lessons for us. One is the importance of bipartisanship; much of the credit for pushing a deal sometimes ascribed to the so-called Greenspan Commission actually belongs to then-Speaker Tip O'Neill and President Ronald Reagan and pragmatists from both parties. ".

Take a look at the last column in the first table in the following.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4a3.html

The growth in asset reserves in the "Old-Age, Survivors and Disability Insurance Trust Funds," from $24.9 billion in 1983 to $2.9 trillion at present, is due almost entirely to changes in funding and spending provided for in the 1983 amendments.

You said you believe that bills that are passed with ANY Republican support are bad bills. So I can't sensibly argue with you about Clinton and Gingrich, any more than I could sensibly argue with a Trumpster about election fraud in 2020.

But, since I'm a fool....

The 1994 and 1995 budgets, passed when Democrats controlled the House, Senate, and Presidency, resulted in deficits of $203 billion and $164 billion respectively. After Republicans took control of the House, the deficits moved to surpluses. When we have split government, so that one party can't get everything it wants, spending isn't as likely to get out of control. You have to go back 30 years before Clinton and Gingrich to see a surplus -- a measly 3.2 billion in 1969. And we haven't seen once since. See https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/stat...ts-and-outlays

I'd count the Welfare to Work bill and cutting the capital gains tax to 20% as other good things that happened during this period. You'd undoubtedly disagree.

Are you proud of me? I'm providing links!!!

[Spidy]

How apropos, to a recent post here, as Donnie "the Devil" J. Dummkopf, daemon spawn incarnate, is steaming mad that Ronald De-Satan-is, stole his idea for sending immigrants to the blue states.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...nt-2022-9?op=1
https://dailycaller.com/2022/09/19/r...s-blue-states/
https://sports.yahoo.com/trump-fumes...235939712.html

It seems Donnie "the Devil" J. Dummkopf, doesn't like it when someone else "steals his schtick". (....kkkk!)

Not to worry though, for unlike, Donnie "the devil" J. Dummkopf, I'm willing to share with anyone who wants to use "my schtick".

Peace Brother!

[ScatManDoo]

So, to what country do you expect TrumpShit to flee to in exile?

In the prior century there were over 50 different known countries (documented) that were hosts of ousted dictators.

The leading exile destinations were the United States, the United Kingdom, Russia, Argentina, and France.

I expect it will be Russia, where he's earned a double-agent pension (vested in it one week after stealing documents from the White House on moving day, Tuesday 1/19/2021).

[PVMonger]

https://www.cnn.com/2015/10/07/polit...tpp/index.html

Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill saved social security and Medicare from bankruptcy.

Wow that's a tuff sentence to wrap my mind around LOL.

RR / and the GOP saved SS and Medicare LOL.

Those are really some Baghdad Bob like sentiments LOL.

And it was BUBBA that came up with his bullshit evil plan, the "3rd way" aka selling the DNC to Wall Street

A model Barry Hussein dutifully continued as is Joe the Turd.

https://unherd.com/2018/10/third-way-lost-way/#text=How%20 the%20 Third%20 Way%20 lost%20 its%20 way%20 By, fateful%20 consequences%20 for%20 politics%20 throughout%20 the%20 democratic%20 West.

You have really gone off the deep end with your headline: God (aka Trump) saved America in 2016.

If this was a public forum, I'd say you won the "Dumb Internet Comment Of The Century" award.

[PVMonger]

https://www.dickmorris.com/the-polls-are-wrong-again/

Obviously you believe that Donnie the Dumbass won the 2020 election. ROFLMFAO.

[Spidy]

Republicans in some key swing states push back against Donnie "the devil" J. Dummkopf, daemon spawn incarnate and "standup for democracy".

Group of Pennsylvania Republicans back Democrat Shapiro for governor.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...nor/ar-AAZh1nj
https://www.koin.com/news/group-of-p...o-for-governor

Former Kansas Gov. (Rep) Bill Graves once again endorses (Dem) Laura Kelly in gubernatorial election.

https://kansaspublicradio.org/kpr-ne...democrat-kelly
https://www.kcur.org/podcast/up-to-d...orial-election

Prominent Republicans (in Michigan) join a coalition to support (Dem) Whitmer for re-election.

https://www.metrotimes.com/news/prom...ction-31063447
https://democraticgovernors.org/upda...etchen-whitmer

Meanwhile, many of the QAnon / Repubs quackery, after campaigning on "stop the steal" and "Trump Won" rhetoric, to win their Primaries, suddenly do an "about-face" and declare Biden the winner of the 2020 election. (...kkk!)

Typical QAnon / GQP gutless, two-face hypocracy. So for now, like (R) Donald C. Bolduc of New Hampshire, lets just call Biden the winner, so we can pretend like we are "a moderate conservative Republican", in order to compete in the general election.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill saved social security and Medicare from bankruptcy. Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich accomplished great things during Bill's second term. But yeah, we would have been better off if China had been forced to play by the same rules as everyone else when it came into the WTO. I don't know jack about Glass Steagall, but suspect you're right. Or at least if our regulations and regulators had been up to snuff, we might have foregone the 2008/2009 recession.

https://www.cnn.com/2015/10/07/polit...tpp/index.html

Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill saved social security and Medicare from bankruptcy.

Wow that's a tuff sentence to wrap my mind around LOL.

RR / and the GOP saved SS and Medicare LOL.

Those are really some Baghdad Bob like sentiments LOL.

And it was BUBBA that came up with his bullshit evil plan, the "3rd way" aka selling the DNC to Wall Street.

A model Barry Hussein dutifully continued as is Joe the Turd.

https://unherd.com/2018/10/third-way-lost-way/#text=How%20 the%20 Third%20 Way%20 lost%20 its%20 way%20 By, fateful%20 consequences%20 for%20 politics%20 throughout%20 the%20 democratic%20 West.