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[CBGBConnisur]

Higher education in America in particular has become a joke, major universities are looking more and more like diploma mills than legitimate institutions of learning. A college education in the US is ridiculously overpriced compared to anywhere else. A new and disturbing trend in the US is the appearance of private for profit universities, there are even a couple of for profit medical schools operating in the US that take students that would not have the grades to make it into a normal non profit medical school, these diploma mills used to be confined to the Caribbean and Eastern Europe but now this money making mill phenomenon is coming to the US. Its also amazing to see how many underemployed university graduates are out there in the work force. Walk into a Whole Foods or a Starbucks and the employees are often ridiculously too educated to work in such a place. I met one woman who had a Phd who worked in Starbucks because she could only get a part time teaching job at a community college. I actually walked into one Whole Foods in NYC and was amazed that the cashier was speaking unbroken and clear English, and it became obvious that she was too overqualified to be bagging groceries.

Asian students generally take their education and their potential degree's earning power a lot more seriously than others. Its no surprise you see a disproportionately large number of Asians in Engineering and Medical related programs at universities, while locals BS around with Theater Arts and other fluff degrees.

I am pretty sure I would win that bet easily.

[George90]

I bet when all the dust settles in another 20 years or so, the Chinese and the Asians are going to end up calling the shots on this planet.

I won't bet with you on that because I fear you will win. I think you are correct with your statement.

I work in education. For several decades the US has 'privatized' education in that there are more and more for-profit schools and universities. Part of the reason for that is that state governments are cutting their education budgets and the federal government is cutting its transfers to state governments. The only viable way for educational insitutions to get funds to operate and grow is to beg for it from philanthropists or ask for it from investors.

Well, when the world economy goes into the tank as it has, and many wealthy individuals lose tens of millions to con artists like Bernie Madoff, the philanthropists' funds dry up. In addition, endowment funds have lost billions of dollars this year. Harvard University, with the world's largest private endowment, lost over 15% of its value in 2008. It was over 30 billion in 2006 and 2007. I think it is now around 25 billion, and the income generated from its endowment is almost nil because interest rates are so low now. Harvard announced that it was imposing a hiring freeze on non-faculty appointments, limiting the number of new faculty hires, and imposing limits on faculty raises.

When education gets privatized in terms of having a mission of maximizing shareholder wealth instead of a mission of maximizing student knowledge and ability, the insititutions start to 'market' or 'sell' education to students rather than educate students. The product then morphs into something for which students are willing to pay top dollar. I can tell you from (painful) experience that the product IS NOT knowledge and ability. It is a credential to a better job, regardless of whether or not that credential is backed up by solid capability. It is just like currency no longer being backed up by gold, but rather only by the confidence that currency holders put into the government that issued the currency. I feel that many US degrees are getting that shaky!

In other countries where the government still controls the higher education industry, like is China or Japan, the quality of the education is still very high. The problem there is that not enough of the population is getting that high quality education. Even here in the US, take a good look at the demographics of who is getting top degrees.

Americans are getting degrees that are not well backed up by capability. Asians take education very seriously and get degrees that are well backed up by capability. It may be less than 20 years before Asians call the shots in the world. It may be only as long as it takes for Baby-Boomers with high quality degrees to retire and be replaced by Gen-Xers with mediocre degrees.

[George90]

So, while Israel might pull off an Entebbe or Osirak or play an essentially tactical situation well - it's not winning the big game.

I completely agree. I often wonder whether the Israelis and Americans really see and understand the big game or whether it is me who is on a different playing field seeing a different game. 'Cause I'll tell ya, very little of what we and the Israelis have done and are doing there makes any sense in the long run.

I have always asked myself, just how much oil does Israel have that we can afford to favor them so much over Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, U.A.E., Iraq, Iran, etc. Do we have an oil substitute coming out next year?

[Brian Moloney]

Well, an objective observer might claim world events thus far appear to always benefit me (certainly far more than Israel), but that does not mean I'm running a vast and sinister conspiracy from my underground Bunker.

As far as most anyone knows.

Anyway, I think I understand your point, but just because history seems to have favored Israel recently...I can't imagine a reasonable person could envy Israel's overall strategic and historic situation. It's been around for 60 years and only two of it's neighbors have recognized it; "As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map." is a quote from the Iranian President, not just some chump on the streets of Isphan. So, while Israel might pull off an Entebbe or Osirak or play an essentially tactical situation well - it's not winning the big game. With luck, maybe 10 years down the road, Iraq might recognize it. Maybe. But the way I see it, the clock is running down -
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2983719.ece

And, while this may all seem very remote to the average American, whenever I think about it I also reflect on how the First World War started and how much more connected the world seems to be today. Read the Homeland Security Threat Assessment for the years 2008-13. It's very depressing where this all seems to be going. It seems to me that we could wake up one day in the not distant future and live in a fundamentally worse way than we do today.

So, it leads to a kind of "carpe diem light" political philosophy down here in the Bunker - which I'm sure you will grasp for paradox "seize the day, but do it in moderation".

Otherwise, I would do Michelle Obama and I would do Beyonce and I have enough self-knowledge to say I would even fuck an ugly French aristocratic chick. Avec plaisir. I've screwed some damn ugly women; just thinking about it sends a chill up my arms. I blame biology, but still....what a pig.

Well today I woke up and read the News paper call the Vancouver Sun in Canada on the Internet. I am in Russia at this time. The report Obama and Oil so you all out there are wondering whats this about? Ok Oil is today $42. 23 cents a barrel when I left for Russia A gallon of gas Regular in Canada was $0. 70 cents a liter. Thats $2. 80 A gallon. A barrel of oil today is $40. 34. It is now $0. 95 cents atliter today. Which means it went up $0. 15 atliter over night so its now $3. 80 cents a gallon in Canada. Every body knows that we are in a sever recession thats NO news. Because of this economic MELT down theres not a big demand for oil. OK so the only bright spot was GAS prices when LOW gave people more, consumer spending, discesionary money to spend. Like going out for dinner buying clothes etc. Now that OIL prices are still LOW why are GAS prices at the PUMPS getting higher. That will definately cause a DEPRESSION. That was the only bright shinning thing going for the world. So now the OIL companies are really screwing the world. So Obama with all his powers and trying to stimulate the US Economy all his HARD work will be for nothing. High Prices at the pumps are STEALING money from the people. As far as I see it WE are all doom. No matter what Obama does the OIL companies (parasites) will fuck up all of Obamas hard efforts.

[Jelly Donut]

Make of it what you will, the results have always benefited Israel.

Well, an objective observer might claim world events thus far appear to always benefit me (certainly far more than Israel), but that does not mean I'm running a vast and sinister conspiracy from my underground Bunker.

As far as most anyone knows.

Anyway, I think I understand your point, but just because history seems to have favored Israel recently...I can't imagine a reasonable person could envy Israel's overall strategic and historic situation. It's been around for 60 years and only two of it's neighbors have recognized it; "As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map." is a quote from the Iranian President, not just some chump on the streets of Isphan. So, while Israel might pull off an Entebbe or Osirak or play an essentially tactical situation well - it's not winning the big game. With luck, maybe 10 years down the road, Iraq might recognize it. Maybe. But the way I see it, the clock is running down -
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle2983719.ece

And, while this may all seem very remote to the average American, whenever I think about it I also reflect on how the First World War started and how much more connected the world seems to be today. Read the Homeland Security Threat Assessment for the years 2008-13. It's very depressing where this all seems to be going. It seems to me that we could wake up one day in the not distant future and live in a fundamentally worse way than we do today.

So, it leads to a kind of "carpe diem light" political philosophy down here in the Bunker - which I'm sure you will grasp for paradox "seize the day, but do it in moderation".

Otherwise, I would do Michelle Obama and I would do Beyonce and I have enough self-knowledge to say I would even fuck an ugly French aristocratic chick. Avec plaisir. I've screwed some damn ugly women; just thinking about it sends a chill up my arms. I blame biology, but still....what a pig.

[Doctor_Skank]

I think it safe to say that someone who makes over $100,000 a year does not have that much free time.

I'm not butting into your argument at all, but I can confirm it is often quite the opposite. Unless you are a doctor, engineer, lawyer or somebody involved in tedious technical time-consuming work, it usually works the other way around. The more you make the more free time you do have.

Life ain't fair.

[DJ FourMoney]

I was referring to Asians in Asia, and Asian people in Australia tend to stick to the old country's ways. Smell a white female when she has not showered for a while. I flew on Air France, which I will never do again, and the whole plain stunk like BO. Asian women tend to have milder body odors. I even know a Japanese guy who told me he does not care for Caucasian women for the fact that they get fat and they often have poor hygiene, would rather date other Asians, thats why not that many Asian men go after white women. I got an Asian girlfriend that holds down a full time job but still manages to make dinner. Every Caucasian woman I have had a relationship with would usually look a for a take out menu.

Granted I've only seen pictures of NZ and AU located Asians and they are influenced by Western culture maybe in dress, makeup and hair die. I know of the BO you speak of with French people, I know am GENERALIZING here....

You as well as myself highlight the lack of "domestic skills" with American women and I'm sure you'll find the same problems with British women and some Canadian women out of the countries that speak English firstly.

I can find a girl that can cook, but you have to weigh that vs a better looking girl that will take care of herself over a longer time period (and offers other benefits), where a girl from a more rural area where looks are almost secondary after your married tend to let themselves go and if they are raising children they have constant access to food where a once skinny girl becomes plump like a turkey.

Again shouldn't this be in the LTR section or something?? I guess the Opinion forum is basically another name for "Off Topic".

I don't know guys, its confusing at best and tiresome at the worst. I can fully understand the P4P scenario but I just happen to think, in the long run a LTR is cost effective, its just the matter of finding the right woman to fit your "economic model".

Jackson feel free to move the last couple of post to the right thread, thanks...

[CBGBConnisur]

Are you referring to Bleroplasty? I have heard of it, but most Chinese tend to keep their Asian appearance. Some younger Japanese get into punk culture with purple hair and shit like that but for the most part they still look Asian. The whitening thing is big in South Asia, skin lightening advertisements are so common. Even there at the end of the day most of these people wind up looking only fair complexioned against other Indians not Westerners.

[George90]

... its rare for Asian women to westernize their appearance.

I don't know about the other stuff you wrote, but I do know about this. There is a THRIVING business in China regarding plastic surgery on women's eyes to make them look more Western and less Asian. For a few decades now, Chinese women have been 'fixing' their eyes. This has been commemted upon by the media and studied by academics who research self-image issues and race/beauty perception issues. The strong Chinese economy in recent years has afforded many more Chinese women to have this surgery.

I can't comment on breast implants or butt implants or other Asian countries besides China, but Chinese women frequently Westernize their eyes.

[Warbucks]

http://business.inquirer.net/money/b...parent-suicide


US tycoon found dead in apparent suicide

Agence France-Presse
First Posted 10:10:00 01/07/2009

Filed Under: World Financial Crisis, Suicide, Personalities


Close this CHICAGO--The head of one of the largest US real estate auction houses was found dead of an apparently self-inflicted gunshot wound, officials said Tuesday.

Steven Good was discovered parked in a forest preserve near Chicago on Monday morning, the Kane County Sheriff's Department said.

There was no note found in his red Jaguar indicating a motive and it was unclear whether his death was related to his work.

Good's death came hours before that of German billionaire Adolf Merckle, who threw himself under a train after he was brought to the brink of ruin by the financial crisis.

A French investment manager, Thierry de la Villehuchet, who lost more than a billion dollars in the alleged pyramid scheme of Wall Street titan Bernard Madoff killed himself last month.

Good was the chairman and chief executive of Chicago-based Sheldon Good & Company Auctions International.

The firm says it has sold over 40,000 properties at an aggregate total of over $9.5 billion since it was founded by Good's father in 1965.

Good, 52, was the driving force behind the firm's expansion and was involved in $4 billion in sales, according to a company biography.

Company president Alan Kravets hailed Good as "one of his industry's most brilliant minds and most successful entrepreneurs" and offered his condolences to Good's wife, children and father.

"It is testimony to Steve's leadership that Sheldon Good & Company remains well positioned for the future," Kravets said in a statement

[MJG Dogs]

leeuwen- go put your brownshirt and leather boots back on, remember your hero rohm, the first leader of the brownshirts was a flaming queer like you are, and yes i do not care for the majority of you eur-o-[CodeWord134]-ons, comprende???

[CBGBConnisur]

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[Doctor_Skank]

Jews = good. Fact.

Shoot missiles at me, I blow your ass up.

A culture that promotes and rewards intelligence, values the maintenance of their own culture while not comdemning others, has the balls to defend itself uncompromisingly, can laugh at itself without feeling insecure, welcomes people of any race or culture... etc. etc. What's not to admire?

Have I contributed significantly to this conversation?

[Leeuwen]

The Jewish power base is much more prevalent in North America than in Europe, with the exception of a few countries Europeans are not as warm to Jews as Americans. In Germany its mostly the politicians who are warm to them, everyday people are another story.

Yet there are (obviously Jews) like MJG Dogs who can't get enough of this very dated topic. Nobody in Europe has genuine interest in debating Jews and their history, who likes them, who doesn't. People don't f*cking care. MJG Dogs' anti-Europe rage is overwhelming. I don't believe he has slightest idea of what's he's talking about. European ambivalence in Palestinian conflict is a result of general approach to troublemakers, and no sensible government jumps happily into a 60 years old conflict, where actually no part is truly interested in peace.

Think about it euroclowns. if you had stopped Hitler perhaps none of this would have happened. All you Neville Chamberlain types out there, wake up. It is happening again. The USA, along with a few other countries like Colombia, Argentina, Brasil, The Dominican republic and Australia are the only real safe havens for jews.

Well, then stay in your favourite countries, and don't visit Europe. Can't be that hard, can it? Or better, go to Israel and stay there. After all, Jews finally got a legitimate place to live and prosper, in Israel.