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09-07-21 19:16 #4616
Posts: 5451Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
Trumps False Claims about Pelosi and Chinatown
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/tr...and-chinatown/
Second, please post a link supporting your suggestion that Nancy Pelosi received the same intel about the reality of the virus in China the same time Trump did.
The Speaker would get it officially, but not necessarily at the same time and not if a so-called potus is informed about it by another head of state "off the record" with no notes taken or kept.
United States Intelligence Community Oversight
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Intelligence_Community_Oversight
Access to information
The White House has the power to control information classification, and even withhold access to information and operational details from certain members of Congress. In this way, the executive branch can directly control what Congress can or cannot see, indirectly influencing the legislative branch's overall ability to make decisions. Thus, despite members of the Intelligence Committees and their staffs holding appropriate security clearances, they may sometimes only have a limited view into specific intelligence activities. Though the National Security Act of 1947 states that Congress must be kept "fully informed" of significant intelligence activities, many Presidents have interpreted this clause to mean they only need to notify the "Gang of Eight" rather than the full membership of the congressional intelligence committees. The Gang of Eight consists of the Senate Majority and Minority Leaders, the Speaker and Majority Leader of the House, and the Chairs and ranking members of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees. Veto Power:
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/03/politics/trump-coronavirus-us-intelligence/index.html
Recorded on audio, Trump admitted to Woodward that he lied about the seriousness of the virus from the beginning. It would be TOTALLY unlike him not to have said to Woodward and everyone else that, "Hey, Nancy Pelosi knew all about it too, everything I knew and at the same time! She misled America, NOT ME!?", if that were even remotely true.
But he didn't.
Woodward book: Trump says he knew coronavirus was deadly and worse than the flu while intentionally misleading Americans
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bob-woodward-rage-book-trump/2020/09/09/0368fe3c-efd2-11ea-b4bc-3a2098fc73d4_story.html
My god. There is zero evidence that the Speaker of the House was in on the same shit-slinging page Trump was on regarding the known seriousness of the virus. Not even the Repub members of the Gang of Eight have made that claim. Hell, Trump was out there thanking Xi for his help and "transparancy."
https://www.vox.com/2020/4/12/21218305/trump-ignored-coronavirus-warnings
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09-07-21 18:07 #4615
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
Instead China suckered TrumpShit initially.
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09-07-21 17:10 #4614
Posts: 657Biden Wishes There Was Something he Could Have Done To Prevent Afghan Tragedy
Washington, DC—A sorrowful President Biden expressed deep sadness over the horrific tragedy consuming Afghanistan, wishing only that there was something the President of the United States could have possibly done.
"I've been wracking my brain for hours, ever since I beat Rainbow Road, trying to think of something, anything, that the President could have done," said President Biden. "It is such a helpless feeling, ya know? Sitting there, just watching ruthless terrorists murder people we promised to help. I got this message from a general saying people who helped interpret for our soldiers were going to be executed and I thought. Wow, that's so sad! Why are you bumming me out when there is nothing I can do about this?
In a surprising move given his high character and decency, President Biden has shirked all responsibility and laid blame for the Afghanistan debacle at the feet of President Trump. Per Biden's 'Rules Of Blame', since Trump had planned to withdraw from Afghanistan. And called no take-backs. Any resulting carnage from the withdrawal, even if done in the most unbelievably heinous, idiotic way imaginable, would be Trump's fault.
"I can hardly believe what I'm hearing. Withdrew the military before ensuring USA Citizens were taken care of?" said a despondent Biden. "And the system to take care of local allies crashed? Bases were abandoned so fast that lots of weapons fell into the hands of the Taliban? It's enough to make you sick to your stomach. I'm talking triple-scoop mint chocolate kind of sick. But you know, it is what is. My hands are tied. Welp, anyone up for the Star Cup? 150 CC?
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09-07-21 14:25 #4613
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1 [View Original Post]
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09-07-21 14:22 #4612
Posts: 1044Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
To return to the original question which has yet to be answered, if Pelosi and the Democrats' demands to continue flights from the covid outbreak source had been implemented, would there have been.
A. more.
Or be. Less.
Covid in the United States?
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09-07-21 14:15 #4611
Posts: 1604Not racism
Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
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09-07-21 13:54 #4610
Posts: 1604Can you even read?
Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
The former guy restricted non-US citizens. He didn't restrict Americans coming from China. Here's a quote from the article above: "We don't have a travel ban," Klain said. "We have a travel Band-Aid right now. First, before it was imposed, 300,000 people came here from China in the previous month. So, the horse is out of the barn."
"There's no restriction on Americans going back and forth," Klain said. "There are warnings. People should abide by those warnings. But today, 30 planes will land in Los Angeles that either originated in Beijing or came here on one-stops, 30 in San Francisco, 25 in New York City. Okay? So, unless we think that the color of the passport someone carries is a meaningful public health restriction, we have not placed a meaningful public health restriction."
The last sentence is why Democrats were against the former guy's restrictions. That's what fascists don't understand, that the color of someone's passport isn't an indication of harboring COVID. "Let's let Americans travel back-and-forth from China, let's let in multi-stop flights that may have originated in China and let's not stop any ships carrying Chinese goods, but by all means let's stop Chinese from coming." Yep, that sounds like orange policy.
And thanks for bringing up the former guy's vaccines again. Are unvaccinated Republicans smart for not taking the bad vaccines trump developed? Or stupid for not taking a good vaccine? Which is it?
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09-07-21 12:33 #4609
Posts: 5451Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
But the 235,000+ number is only "disappointing" compared to some economists' prediction estimates that Mainstream Media published.
Biden didn't say, "We're going to add 750,000 jobs in August!"Just some economists that have been way off, up and down, for every month of Biden's historic jobs creation economic recovery made that prediction. So what?
And how they pulled that kind of high number out of their ass for August at a time when the DeSantis Variant of Trump's Pandemic Virus Among Anti-Science, Anti-Vax Trumpsters was driving job applicants away from the hospitality and leisure industry in droves is a mystery.
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09-07-21 11:57 #4608
Posts: 5451Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
Weren't you paying attention to your guy back then?
Hardly a reason to start demanding worldwide travel restrictions, refusing to hug anyone, requiring everyone to wear a mask and so on, wouldn't you say?
Unfortunately, what the world has since learned is that was a fine and dandy way for a so-called potus to convert a likely manageable endemic in Wuhan into the deadly, worldwide economy-destroying Pandemic it became.
Trump's Pandemic, to be be exact and give credit where credit is well earned and due.
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09-07-21 06:37 #4607
Posts: 657In Response To Afghani Disaster, Pelosi Begins Impeachment Proceedings Against Trump
Washington, the. See. —Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has announced Congress will be taking action immediately as the situation in Afghanistan rapidly deteriorates. To hold those responsible for the evacuation debacle, Congress will consider articles of impeachment against President Donald Trump.
"Good morning, Thursday morning," Pelosi said during a press conference this morning, which was Thursday morning. "We're facing a dire situation in Afghanistan, and that means we as Congress need to do our duty to hold those responsible accountable for their horrible, horrible actions. That's why, effective immediately, I'm introducing articles of impeachment against the president. President Donald Trump. "
Pelosi says Trump being impeached a third time won't actually accomplish anything. But, she says, it will send a clear message to Trump that she doesn't like him, which is the important thing. "he didn't get the message the first two times," she said. "Now the world will know for sure that the orange man truly is bad. "
"The walls are closing in. We got him this time."
Trump says he welcomes the impeachment as he will be the first president in the history of the world to be acquitted three times. "That's huge!" he said, addressing his supporters on the few social networks that have not yet banned him. "Sleepy Joe hasn't even been acquitted once. Sad and pathetic!
Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]
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09-07-21 06:28 #4606
Posts: 1956Masterstroke
Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
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09-07-21 05:21 #4605
Posts: 2579
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09-07-21 04:39 #4604
Posts: 2579Well jajajajaja
Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
Islam is not a race so you point is a bit confusing?
Do you know how many black Muslims are in Chicago? Ever hear of Nation of Islam?
Ever hear of Louis the anti Semite Farrahkhan? A militant Democrat!
Do you have any idea how many blacks in Afrika are Muslims?
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09-07-21 04:35 #4603
Posts: 2579Wut wut wut?
Originally Posted by Golfinho [View Original Post]
Should what? Only eat American food and never travel overseas etc? That's some childish logic you have there.
I'm against illegals flooding the USA labor market with cheap labor for the benefit of Bezos, does that mean I can't eat at Taco Bell according to your logic?
I believe Bernie Sanders said in approx 2016 in an interview that open borders are evil.
He went on to say they are a gift to the Koch Brothers and Mitt Romney et al.
Is Bernie Sanders a spin off of Hitler? They are both Jewish but that's a bit of a stretch dontcha think?
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09-07-21 04:30 #4602
Posts: 2344Originally Posted by PVMonger [View Original Post]Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]
We have now looked over Air Force surveillance pictures that show the swelling and overflowing of cars in parking lots of numerous hospitals in and around Wuhan China in September and October of 2019.
The world-wide observers that Obama and the Democrats funded and put in place during the first half of the decade would likely have identified the pandemic and contain it (as they did others).
TrumpShit claimed initially that China was fully co-operating and transparent.