American Politics

**MarquisdeSade1** · 08-25-22 23:24

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/co...25/id/1084664/

And malicious indifference to the loss of their lives.

They all need to be in prison.

**PVMonger** · 08-25-22 20:41

Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]

Yup. Will the people who worked and saved to pay off their college debt be given a refund? Of course not. Literally rewarding feckless, lazy, irresponsible, debt-welshing bums. Which to be fair is his voter base. Them, illegals, swamp creatures and dead people make up the democrat coalition.

Since the vast majority of rightwingnuts are supposedly Christians and think exactly as you do, let me remind everyone who claims to be a Christian that the entirety of your faith is built upon a debt that you couldn't pay and that someone else stepped up to pay for you.

Think about that, why don't you.

And if you aren't a Christian but know folks who are Christian and are up in arms about the student loan debt forgiveness program, why no say this to them. If you have the cojones.

**PVMonger** · 08-25-22 20:22

Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]

Outside of nuclear secrets and the location of spies, that is exactly what a Supreme Court case said, but it is a distraction. This has not been about charging Trump with a crime but retrieval of documents embarrassing to the FBI, Obama, and Biden.

What most Republicans find distasteful is the FBI raid was authorized by a hack judge. What bothers me is the warrant was illegal. A warrant has to be limited in time, place, and scope, and this warrant was not. It also was not signed by a neutral party. The magistrate who signed the warrant already recused himself from a Trump case and by his own admission and was not neutral.

Thing is that the warrant being illegal will not be judged as such unless there is a criminal case, and there will not be. If there were a real judge versus a partisan hack, the warrant would have been limited to the place the documents were kept and limited to just the supposedly classified documents, and there would have been no reason to seal anything outside of the content of the classified documents.

The nuclear secrets bullshit not only has been shot down by Trump but was just an excuse floated by the FBI to say Trump cannot declassify everything. Waiting almost two years to retrieve nuclear secrets is beyond dumb. Trump is also saying release everything because the documents are embarrassing to the FBI, Obama, and Biden.

Nah, you are drinking the FBI KoolAid if you think the FBI is an objective body versus Biden's praetorian guard. The FBI works for Biden not the American citizens.

IMO the 4th amendment is really the most important amendment in the constitution. It means your stuff is your stuff, and it says the government cannot kill you as you own your body. It places limits on searches and seizures.

Being a Trump hating Dem, that is all you care about, getting Trump. You are too clueless to see how we do not even have a 4th amendment with these general warrants and hack judges. The police / FBI can raid anyone's home and find something illegal, and if they do not find something, they can plant whatever they want. The FBI even took Trump's passport.

I think a lot of Republicans were on the fence with Trump but now they are not. You are no longer voting for Trump but against the FBI and for the Constitution. After this raid, he will be the 2024 nominee.

General warrants and biased judges are how you get a dictatorship and you do not care about that PVM. You think a one party dictatorship with Democrats in charge would be great. You can quote whatever expert you want PVM, but this is the road to dictatorship and it needs to be stopped.

Whatever was in those documents that was embarrassing, the FBI just embarrassed themselves even more with this raid. Taibbi is right. The FBI did the impossible. They turned Trump into a victim.

The following quote from your rant says it all: "IMO the 4th amendment is really the most important amendment in the constitution. It means your stuff is your stuff, and it says the government cannot kill you as you own your body. It places limits on searches and seizures. ".

You seem to forget, if you ever knew, that nothing, abso-freakin-lutely nothing, that Donnie the Dumbass' marry band of fuckups printed, wrote, or said is "their stuff". All that "stuff" belongs to the American people and must be, by law, turned over to the National Archives.

The National Archives actually went easy on the Orange Buffoon. They asked him to return everything he had and he returned about half. They asked him to return more and he returned a few documents. Then, the Mango Mussolini's lawyers actually had the bad sense to lie to the Archives, in writing, that the Mango Mussolini had returned everything. The DOJ didn't believe that line of BS (they are obviously smarter than every tRUMP supporter) and they raided Mar-a-Lago.

Let me say this once and for all so that the moron brigade understands. Every scrap of paper that an administration generates belongs to the American people. tRUMP's 4th Amendment defense is as worthless as he is. Your defense of tRUMP's defense is just as worthless.

One last point. Donnie the Dumbass, in 2018, signed a law that made it a felony to be in possession of classified documents without authorization. Talk about being hoisted by your own petard. Oops!

**Spidy** · 08-25-22 19:46

Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]

... As the economic situation deteriorates and the military / law enforcement weakens as white men are forced out by diversity quotas and choose not to fight for a system that hates us, the swamp will no longer have the resources or capability to maintain its instruments of internal repression.

How uncharacteristic of you to claim "victimhood"?

Note, in your statement/whine, just substitute "white men" for "women", "people of color", "BLM" or "LGBTQ" and it sounds like something you stole from every other liberal movement, you despise so much. (...kkkk!)

**Spidy** · 08-25-22 18:34

Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]

Yup. Will the people who worked and saved to pay off their college debt be given a refund? Of course not. Literally rewarding feckless, lazy, irresponsible, debt-welshing bums. Which to be fair is his voter base. Them, illegals, swamp creatures and dead people make up the democrat coalition.

The def sounds eerily similar to the Repubs banksters and Wall Street fraudsters welfare recipients. The 2008 financial bailout, Repub lead fiasco, cost tax payers, $12 Trillion.

https://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/dail...145432501.html

Student loan forgiveness is drop in the ocean compared to the trillions, the Repubs have given, to the corporate welfare state.

**Chris P** · 08-25-22 17:45

Originally Posted by ErsatzJulian [View Original Post]

This is just sloppy reasoning. The cause of death is "unknown" and you immediately jump to the answer you want to believe. Do some proper research first before reaching any kind of conclusion.

Sure. It's all just a coincidence that huge excess numbers of healthy, young and middle aged people are dropping dead of unknown, non-covid reasons directly after a mass coerced injection of the population with untested RNA-altering "vaccines".

Why, there are probably just a few more people slipping on ice because of global warming. That's all. Nothing to see here folks. That's why the fake news won't discuss the excess deaths and big tech censors any mention of them. Because there's nothing to see. Nothing at all.

**Chris P** · 08-25-22 17:36

Originally Posted by Villainy [View Original Post]

Hmmm. So when I was getting my MBA with a minor in Communism (hahahaha) it was generally accepted that bankruptcy wasn't exactly a prestigious marker of success. But I do understand in Trump-world that is the narrative. Yes, for several years The Apprentice was a successful program, athough the ratings were slowly sliding down hill over the course of the program.

https://www.thewrap.com/celebrity-ap...atings-arnold/

I would posit that the only reason the program was successful and not a disaster was that Trump was essentially an actor and not the creator / director / writer / and only served as a co-producer in name only. Why do I say that?? Because as everyone who IS knowledgeable about business is aware: everything Trump touches turns to feces.

For some reasons my reply to this post keeps being blocked. Have the woke censors got as far as the ISG? We really are in trouble.

In brief, Trump has such a vast and successful empire that bringing up individual parts of it where he or his subordinates used bankruptcy laws to their benefit is like making a video of all Tom Brady's sacks and interceptions, and using it to claim he is a terrible quarterback. Just obviously retarded.

Until his run for president, he was universally recognized as a great American success story. The left loves to try and rewrite history in an Orwellian fashion (for instance American Indians were all gentle, sensitive souls who did nothing more violent than pluck flowers until Europeans showed up) and this is just another example.

The Apprentice was a cultural phenomenon with high ratings for 14 seasons in primetime. Even people who didn't watch it knew about it and had seen some viral clips and knew the catchphrase. Yet again, the success was completely down to Trump, as the failure and cancellation of Schwarzenegger's single season showed.

It is bizarre that leftists are so overcome with Trump Derangement Syndrome that they attempt to dispute these clear, obvious, acknowledged facts. But then, they also claim that trannies are women, the border is secure, the world is ending in 9 years due to climate change, Biden doesn't have dementia, mass mail-in voting is the most secure way to hold an election, and many more things that fly in face of common sense and basic reality, so we shouldn't be too surprised.

As for tax returns, the IRS see them and certified there was no crime or evasion. That is all anyone needs to know. Why didn't Crooked Hillary release her medical records when she collapsed during the 2016 campaign? I recall that Trump promised to release his tax records if she released her medical records, but she declined. Seems that she had more to hide than just her crooked emails.

Again, claiming that Trump wasn't hugely wealthy because he didn't want to open the private tax records of himself and his vast business empire to public scrutiny is just silly, and yet another sign of TDS. You're really going to need to work on that before he wins the 2024 election, his third straight victory.

**EihTooms** · 08-25-22 16:04

Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]

Yup. Will the people who worked and saved to pay off their college debt be given a refund? Of course not. Literally rewarding feckless, lazy, irresponsible, debt-welshing bums. Which to be fair is his voter base. Them, illegals, swamp creatures and dead people make up the democrat coalition.

How about the businesses, industries and workers who never got free money and subsidies from tax payers as do the oil industry, agriculture, healthcare, housing, certain corporations and other small businesses, etc?

When will we get our refund?

**Vagabundo1** · 08-25-22 15:39

https://youtu.be/XPRcMQQJy4U

Comments?

**ErsatzJulian** · 08-25-22 14:32

Originally Posted by ChrisP [View Original Post]

Recommend anyone with questions about covid vax deaths and injuries to watch the Mark Steyn show on GB News. The fake news and Big tech both silence any such discussion.

Steyn is a brilliant commentator. Used to be a guest host for Rush and regular guest on Tucker Carlson (the #1 rated show in news) and now has his own gig in Britain. Kinda sad that the best news comes not from the land of the free but from Britain's GB News and also Sky News Australia, especially now that Fox has cucked (Tucker and Laura Ingraham aside), but oh well.

Couple of graphs from his latest show, illustrating the huge increase in non-covid excess deaths among people aged 25 to 55 in late 2021 (peak vax time), as well as the huge increase in "cause unknown" deaths at the same time. Hmm, nothing to see here folks.

Watch the full show for context https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=112fvwVvWpY

Steyn is fearless, funny, and a great communicator, I always watch or listen to his show as well as Tucker these days.

This is just sloppy reasoning. The cause of death is "unknown" and you immediately jump to the answer you want to believe. Do some proper research first before reaching any kind of conclusion.

**MarquisdeSade1** · 08-25-22 13:27

Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]

Biden new green deal once again hurts domestic oil production. Once again it shows the world we will continue to beg for oil from other countries. OPEC announced they will start cutting production rather than increase as per Biden begging. Watch oil prices soar over $100 per barrel even with the Biden recession hitting Americans.

And to make things worse he just gave over $300 Billion of tax payer money to forgive college debt. Spending billions will just put inflation into high gear. Obama economist said today biggest mistake of Biden administration to date. Will hurt millions of low income and middle class families.

Biden stupidity at its finest.

https://www.breitbart.com/health/202...on-trans-kids/

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/20...eject-amnesty/

**EihTooms** · 08-25-22 11:10

Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]

Biden new green deal once again hurts domestic oil production. Once again it shows the world we will continue to beg for oil from other countries. OPEC announced they will start cutting production rather than increase as per Biden begging. Watch oil prices soar over $100 per barrel even with the Biden recession hitting Americans.

And to make things worse he just gave over $300 Billion of tax payer money to forgive college debt. Spending billions will just put inflation into high gear. Obama economist said today biggest mistake of Biden administration to date. Will hurt millions of low income and middle class families.

Biden stupidity at its finest.

Are you sure you want to argue that people not paying their student loans simply puts billions into the system, drives inflation into high gear, hurts millions of low income and middle class families and is an example of stupidity at its finest?

Ok.

Because student loan payments have been on pause for more than two years, initially put on pause in March 2020 under a previous so-called potus in order to deal with the horrific results of his disastrous economic decisions going back to at least 2018. So, according to you, he is the one who did all those terrible things to America, its economy, low income and middle class families, triggering inflation and all that.

Just sayin'.

**Elvis 2008** · 08-25-22 05:41

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...uments/671119/

The funny part is the author makes the joke that Trump can declassify any documents he wants and put them in a you-haul. The irony is that Biden can then undeclassify them.

The author of the article actually made this joke which may come true: Depending on traffic and the sharpness of the Biden administration, I would imagine the documents in the you-haul could have been reclassified somewhere around Fredericksburg, Virginia.

So this is literally what we are dealing with. Trump declassifies documents. Biden reclassifies them and tries to put Trump in jail. With a Democratic jury in DC, that would certainly be enough to put Trump on the electric chair. The notion that Biden did not know about this then was comical. And of course, it came out today that Biden knew: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...-mar-lago-raid.

And so now Matt Taibbi leads his article today with this, Excuse me for giving a shit, but what happened to the Trump raid story? Did that big news two weeks ago actually happen?

And there is more:

The Attorney General strode to a press conference podium three days after the raid looking like a condemned man. He hinted the raid only became public knowledge because Trump blabbed about it, then said the DOJ only filed a motion to release the search warrant "in light of the former president's public confirmation of the search" and because of "substantial public interest. " Garland toward the end of his remarks said he'the "personally approved the decision to seek a search warrant in this matter," briefly held his hand up to beseech reporters to hold their questions, and Snagglepussed out, exit stage right, without answering one.

The four-minute performance played like a hostage video. The idea of Garland both filing a motion to release the warrant and making a public appearance solely because of the post-raid reaction suggests he, too, was taken by surprise, and didn't expect to be facing questions. If there was any amount of planning before the raid, this would be impossible. Yet it appeared so.

On one hand, we're in the same place we've been a hundred times in the Trump era, waiting for the big reveal. We were here before Michael Cohen's testimony, before the Mueller report, before the Ukraine whistleblower letter, the Barr memo, and countless other expected bombshells. On the other hand, the evidentiary hype train has been turned off early this time.

"The Government," the motion read, "has refused to provide President Trump with any reason for the unprecedented general search of his home. " There's a lot of crazy stuff in the Trump motion, but they're not wrong about this.

Even if the raid wasn't politically motivated, it will for sure continue to look politically motivated, if the Justice Department doesn't come up with a better explanation than the six or seven leaked so far. Yet everyone is acting like that question has been answered.

Even though stories like Russiagate and Ukrainegate had holes from the start, their underlying dramatic logic was consistent: Trump is guilty, and proof will be released any minute. The Mar-a-Lago raid by contrast feels like an accidental missile launch.

Unless the man is literally in manacles before November 2024, this mess will remain an open wound for Democrats. Even if the raid wasn't politically motivated, it will for sure continue to look politically motivated.

End of link.

So here we go with the never mind Democrats again. The FBI showed up at a former president's house with an illegal warrant, 30 machine gun carrying agents, 11 vehicles, and searched every speck of Trump's house. And just like with all the other bombshells that never went off, we are back with the Dems waving their hands and saying, "Never mind. " Is short term dementia needed to be a Democrat?

**EihTooms** · 08-25-22 04:46

Originally Posted by Canada [View Original Post]

Biden new green deal once again hurts domestic oil production. Once again it shows the world we will continue to beg for oil from other countries. OPEC announced they will start cutting production rather than increase as per Biden begging. Watch oil prices soar over $100 per barrel even with the Biden recession hitting Americans.

And to make things worse he just gave over $300 Billion of tax payer money to forgive college debt. Spending billions will just put inflation into high gear. Obama economist said today biggest mistake of Biden administration to date. Will hurt millions of low income and middle class families.

Biden stupidity at its finest.

And who was that Obama economist and what exactly did he say?

The student loan forgiveness is another in an unmatched list of historic positive legislation and stewardship for America that Biden and the Dems have accomplished in an astoundingly successful first mere 19 months. And after inheriting the worst across-the-board results from the worst president of all time and now the worst former president of all time! Which makes Biden's positive achievements even more remarkable.

And, no, I did not have an outstanding student loan to forgive nor am I related to anyone who had one prior to today. It's just a brilliant use of our tax payers' money, mine included, in order to Make America Great Again.

**Chris P** · 08-25-22 02:57

Recommend anyone with questions about covid vax deaths and injuries to watch the Mark Steyn show on GB News. The fake news and Big tech both silence any such discussion.

Steyn is a brilliant commentator. Used to be a guest host for Rush and regular guest on Tucker Carlson (the #1 rated show in news) and now has his own gig in Britain. Kinda sad that the best news comes not from the land of the free but from Britain's GB News and also Sky News Australia, especially now that Fox has cucked (Tucker and Laura Ingraham aside), but oh well.

Couple of graphs from his latest show, illustrating the huge increase in non-covid excess deaths among people aged 25 to 55 in late 2021 (peak vax time), as well as the huge increase in "cause unknown" deaths at the same time. Hmm, nothing to see here folks.

Watch the full show for context https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=112fvwVvWpY

Steyn is fearless, funny, and a great communicator, I always watch or listen to his show as well as Tucker these days.