American Politics

[Dan7373]

...As for diversity in the world, don't hold your breath it will never happen in my lifetime or yours! Freedom is just a word some define it with more some with less but truly free it is overrated just a dream. Everybody needs somebody no man is an island? Politic is here to stay it might be just as old as the profession it is the reason we are getting pussy at all? It depends on how you look at it?

I'm not sure why you would say this about diversity in government and politics. Because even now we have enough diversity in the world to have sexual freedom in Thailand and some other places too.

So, I can leave my country where this kind of stuff is prohibited and find my freedom in Thailand, at least temporarily and at least enough to satisfy my need for companionship and sex enough not to feel desperate and depressed about it.

Perhaps the word 'freedom' is too general and too abstract to have much meaning. You need to be more specific what freedom exactly you are talking about. Because even in Thailand, people might have sexual freedoms, but their other freedoms might be restricted.

It all depends on what kind of freedom you need, so that you can go to a place where such freedom exists and experience it.

[LittleBigMan]

I'm not sure if the Pattaya thread is a good place to talk about politics. I always thought this thread was for guys with needy dicks in search of hot chicks, who want to cash in on their good looks and their willingness to do it with guys.

But I suppose, politics plays a role in the kind of sexual freedom Pattaya has. Governments in most places don't allow consenting women and men nearly as much sexual freedom as the Thai government allows.

And this is my problem with so-called leadership by USA or any other country. This leadership usually turns into imperialism and international despotism. The leader country tells everybody and every country what to do, or else. And this often affects the sexual freedom of people as well. Because the leader country imposes its moral standards and hypocrisies on everybody else, under the threat of various sanctions and penalties.

US leadership hasn't yet led to restrictions on sexual freedom in Thailand. But the risk for this is always there, as long as USA remains the leader. Because the US government has been sanctioning various countries for many different issues. It might be only a matter of time before some newly elected US government decides to start sanctioning and punishing Thailand for its sexual freedom.

I'd rather have diversity in the world, where various countries and jurisdictions are free to arrange their laws and freedoms the way they like. Because this way you can leave tyranny and go to a place where you can be free.

Politics usually not but with the Virus not a whole lot of dick and such being talked about reason most likely this has gone on as long as it has. As I noted someone would have noted start a new thread I'm sure you heard that before.

As for diversity in the world, don't hold your breath it will never happen in my lifetime or yours! Freedom is just a word some define it with more some with less but truly free it is overrated just a dream. Everybody needs somebody no man is an island? Politic is here to stay it might be just as old as the profession it is the reason we are getting pussy at all? It depends on how you look at it?

[Dan7373]

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I have no problem with someone else becoming the leader of the world other than the USA In spite of America not being perfect do their share of nation-building but this has been going on long before there was any America. In today's world I still would like them to lead if any of you want China or Russian I say knock yourself out!
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I'm not sure if the Pattaya thread is a good place to talk about politics. I always thought this thread was for guys with needy dicks in search of hot chicks, who want to cash in on their good looks and their willingness to do it with guys.

But I suppose, politics plays a role in the kind of sexual freedom Pattaya has. Governments in most places don't allow consenting women and men nearly as much sexual freedom as the Thai government allows.

And this is my problem with so-called leadership by USA or any other country. This leadership usually turns into imperialism and international despotism. The leader country tells everybody and every country what to do, or else. And this often affects the sexual freedom of people as well. Because the leader country imposes its moral standards and hypocrisies on everybody else, under the threat of various sanctions and penalties.

US leadership hasn't yet led to restrictions on sexual freedom in Thailand. But the risk for this is always there, as long as USA remains the leader. Because the US government has been sanctioning various countries for many different issues. It might be only a matter of time before some newly elected US government decides to start sanctioning and punishing Thailand for its sexual freedom.

I'd rather have diversity in the world, where various countries and jurisdictions are free to arrange their laws and freedoms the way they like. Because this way you can leave tyranny and go to a place where you can be free.

[Nounce]

True, that is what it is called at the beginning in politics after the relationship it turns into an Entitlement it is the same if you take the same girl more than once!

There is a school of thought that it is because US super power status is being challenged. It is how a treaty or law works, and it often has unintended consequences. One of it is that China is still classified as developing nation so it takes advantage of the status. This probably will all be fine if they don't challenge US technologically and militarily. Of example is quantum satellite and similar event has happen before. Russian is the first to send satellite to space and you can read about it on NASA web site to see how US react.

[The Cane]

I've always had the impression there are more right wing posters here than left wing posters. But I've never really counted them, so now I'm (just like Trump often does) making a statement without backing it up with evidence.

I don't consider myself to be far left or far right. I can't stand either side really. I would say that I'm mostly left of center, but still so close to the center as not to be anywhere near a "leftist". I tend to feel most comfortable with left leaning candidates around the center, followed by right leaning around the center.

[Franciscass]

I've always had the impression there are more right wing posters here than left wing posters. But I've never really counted them, so now I'm (just like Trump often does) making a statement without backing it up with evidence.

It would be interesting to know the breakdown of ISG members between right wing or left wing, conservative or liberal, Pro Trump or Anti Trump. From those expressing views I feel it's pretty much an even split but with the edge given to the conservatives when it comes to feelings of righteousness.

[LittleBigMan]

To keep people from hanging outside in groups on those mats drinking and eating and spreading corona.

Do some people only see one side of life? I'm sure if there wasn't a curfew 3rd road the local clubs would be packed to the rim since business don't get going until 10 pm and that doesn't include all the Thai clubs further up 3rd road towards Pattaya Nua and then you got Naklau even more local clubs that cater to the underage if a Thai need to find their son a first place to look is head there.

Darkside, BBQ Jim June places packed to the rim no social distance anywhere to be seen it is like the wild west slowly opening they must not have gotten the word because it seem they are already on the 4th stage?

[Mogwai]

Their thread is called Coronavirus - Nothing but the Facts or something like that.

The problem is that left wing and right wing posters often have a different view on what the real facts are.

[Mogwai]

The left wing zealots will pollute and takeover the Coronavirus thread as well if they are allowed to.

I've always had the impression there are more right wing posters here than left wing posters. But I've never really counted them, so now I'm (just like Trump often does) making a statement without backing it up with evidence.

[Cons68]

If you use the NY Times and Washington Post as your "sources" of information, you have shown your leftist leaning, anti-Trump colors to the world.

My name is Stewie Griffin and I must confess. I hate Trump so much that I travelled back in time 150 years in my time traveling machine to create a newspaper with the only goal of discrediting DonaldTrump back in 2019. And you guessed. That newspaper is the New York Times.

In any case guys, I want to thank you. Really.

When I look at my country and see the huge mess the Government has made managing this crisis I think "we are the dumbest in the galaxy".

But then I just need to take a look at the good old USA. And I feel smarter. Not by much to be honest, but a little. The whole thing with the face masks is even better than the one the spanish Health minister has organized. And that was a tough one.

I never thought I would say this. But long live the Vietnamese Communist party (0 deaths and a nice border with China).

If people were not dying this would be so laughable.

[Run Mann]

Thanks Run Mann but if other guys are like me we don't scroll all the way down to the Blog Section on a regular basis. The German thread is on the main forum. Maybe Admin2 can move your thread from the Blog section to the Main Forum.

Well the Thread is there and if you use it, others may follow your lead. Its ok to lament over its position but try contributing to it, you may effect the change you wanted.

[ScatManDoo]

If you use the NY Times and Washington Post as your "sources" of information, you have shown your leftist leaning, anti-Trump colors to the world.

Tests? What does testing do to prevent the transmission of the Wuhan virus? Nothing, absolutely nothing. Infection takes place only by close contact with infected patients.

Testing helps us to identify spreaders of the COVID-19 who are asymptomatic or experiencing minor symptoms. Otherwise these folks would have no other way to know that they need to take additional steps to prevent giving the virus to other people, like their friends and relatives.

Please let us know what sources you use to get your information from, so that we can get a good laugh.

I will suggest a good source for you to learn something, and be entertained.

Go watch the 50-minute interview that Joe Biden gave to Stephen Colbert on his late show May 21st (that ran past midnight into the 22nd of May).

Joe Biden tends to stays away from 5-syllable words like "asymptomatic", [Deleted by Admin]

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[Franciscass]

The left wing zealots will pollute and takeover the Coronavirus thread as well if they are allowed to. They can't help themselves. They are on a political crusade to save the world. Ha Ha.

As a counter example, there is a competing P4 P website that does a better job at policing its threads. I am not allowed to mention the name of this competing website here, but I am pretty sure everybody knows the site I am referring to. Their thread is called Coronavirus - Nothing but the Facts or something like that. Sorry Jackson or whoever is in charge here. Banish me if your want. Take away my posting privileges - I don't care, but allowing the left wingers to take over a forum topic is bad management or maybe you approve of the takeover. In any case, either do something about it or I predict you will lose 30% to 50% of your contributing members. Take a look/see at Sports Illustrated subscription numbers over the last 6 years since they began to insert left wing dogma into their sports stories if you don't believe me.

Natty Bumpo - I am fed up.

I hope you don't leave Natty. I may not agree with your views on politics but when you are not allowing yourself to be upset with criticisms of the dear leader your posts are no pun intended chatty and entertaining and sometimes informative especially on the Manila scene where I sometimes find myself. Open forums like ISG attract all types from narcissistic navel gazers to online Walter Mitty's to perpetual whiners but mostly just decent heads who want to voice their opinion on their experiences of the P4 P scene here. Over the years I have found using the ignore button helps a lot in not allowing oneself to get annoyed at what's on screen. Hope things get back to some semblance of normality when or if you manage to get back later in the year. Stay safe.

[Franciscass]

Natty. You seem like a very sensible dude, but you let the bile that is politics on a hooker web site get under your skin? I'm surprised.

No doubt ISG has become more of a forum for expression of political views. I guess it's up to admin to decide how far that goes.

What I feel is important is how civil the discourse is. I have always felt where there is a difference of opinion on an issue it should and can be done with respect for the other person's opinion.

We can differ on issues, political, social and otherwise but unfortunately too often usually when one side feels it is losing the argument it sadly becomes heated and personalized.

It shouldn't and doesn't need to.

[MonkeyPaw]

1. Divide the USA and the people even more than it already is.

2. Weaken any of the USA alliances with others.

3. Strengthen the USA's enemies' weaponry and nuclear arsenal.

4. Isolate the USA from the rest of the world.

5. Weaken the USA's economy by weakening any other economies pegged to it.

6. Piss off the biggest creditor of the USA in terms of foreign debt.

7. And perhaps when 1-6 is accomplished, send the country into a war.

Do 1-6 very cunningly, so that it's unsuspecting, just like a wolf in a sheep's clothing. Results speak for themselves, no matter what we do, what the intentions are, what we believe, what we write, or what comes out of our mouths. And if the price of tea in China does matter, I'the keep and eye on China and HK and the end of 1 country 2 systems with China's National Security Law. End of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.