American Politics

[Member #2001]

I love the diversity of america but I'm tired of people taking and not giving back.Nowhere else in the world would this happen.You either contribute and be a part of the community as a whole or get out.You cant expect to be liked if you take jobs.People in europe are starting to feel the brunt of it as well it's draining any progress thats been made.Nobody would be racist if you hired americans and spent your money here instead of sending it home so more people can come here and the drain the system.Theres nothing racist about it just look at the stats.
Asians are the worst offenders of this world wide.

I am so sorry that I walked into this conversation. All I have to say is WRONG!!!!!!WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!WRONG!!!!!!!! AND WRONG AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!i I am not going to post my reasons why you are wrong, buecause I do not want to perpetuate a flame war even though I do have valid reasons which I will not discuss here. How ever I will say that as an american (a discusted one at that), fed up with the hollier then thou attitude and the people running the country, I have decided to work here and take my hard earnded dollars out of the country and if anyone I would encourage anyone albiet american or from other culture to do the same also. There is nothing unpatratiotic about it and I will not be silenced by bieng called a communist as it the fashion nowadays. BTW. I am not Mexican, black, chinese, polack, arab or a redneck hillbilly. I am a HUMAN, born on this planat and I dont see how race, color, creed, or religion has anything to do with it.

Reminds me of, well better not say.

So now you or anyone would like to flame me please do so as I will not respond and you will go into my ignore box, so feel free.

i concur. america is the greatest political entity in the history of mankind but our greatness is declining. america is great because of our protestant work ethic, rugged individualism,respect for the rule of law, and eternal optimism that is shared among our populace. we are also historically unique in that we'll kick your ass, help you up, patch ya up, and then declare no hard feelings.

unfortunately, our common cultural fabric is being eroded by mass immigration from non western nations. an immediate immigration moratorium must be declared on Asians, latinos, slavs/e.europeans, and especially muslims--africans don't immigrate in any mentionable numbers anyway. it's not a racial issue but rather a cultural and ethical one. most of the aforementioned come here to benefit from the financial paradise that my forefathers made possible with no inkling to replenish what they take. if we need cheap labor fine, but they should not be granted citizenship or be treated to the trappings of such. american citizenship laws should be modeled after german laws... or better yet roman cannon...no first generation passports.

there should be a few exceptions, like those who deposit 250K in an american bank account with no withdrawal possible for five years. these people, along with other immigrants, should pay a higher tax rate--10%-20%-- than american citizens do.

these things will weed out freeriders from those that are genuinely interested in being americans and embracing the responsibilities that come with citizenship.

also, foreign brides must return home if their j-1 sponsor requests it within a ten year time frame. i'm sick of seeing sorry ass men being taken for rides by natashas.

[Bart9000]

Well, guys.

After reading through all the posts here, I think I can say that I have it the worst when it comes to LTR, without a doubt. You see, I'm not a black man, a white man nor an asian man. I am a US-born Latin from New York. You have no idea how LIMITED my options are in terms of LTR:

1) I fit the profile of US-born Latins having lower income. I do have a high school diploma and an associate degree but finished short of the 4-yr degree. Too much drama that I won't get into here. So no going over the world mongering for me.

2) My parents are usually the conservative type from the "homeland", which means that some of their fucked-up social and cultural values rubbed off on me. I have problems trying to loosen up when it came to meeting people of the opposite sex. The clubbing scene is a big turn-off for me. Even the social clubs around the city I have trouble getting traction in because the girls are already there with their boyfriends/fuck buddies/whatever or a bunch of girls are together and have this bad attitude. A lot of US-based Latins have the worst attributes from both their old culture and the US culture COMBINED. That is not to mention the stupid reggaeton/hip-hop crap that's the rage today. It's absolutely sickening!

3) Going outside the ethnic group/social group is a BIG problem because:

a) Latins in the US have this big stigma attached to them. Either they're looked at as criminals, illegal aliens or the machista-sexist type. I'm neither a criminal nor an illegal alien. And I'm pretty soft for a big guy. Shy even.

b) Again, Latins have this cultural pride thing and, as a result, I have problems trying to break through this barrier. It's stupid but that's what I have to live with.

4) Going back to the "homeland" to look for women is another BIG problem:

a) Most women there think that people coming over from the US already have money or SHOULD have money by now. I'm about as close to broke as possible. So I can't even afford to lie to a woman promising to take care of her because I already have enough drama paying the bills and I can't afford to tack on a woman who turns out to be a manipulating (rhymes with "witch").

b) On that point, you have to realize that Latin women in many countries treat men of the same ethnic group like CRAP. Either they feel that they have to get back at all the other men because of the way many men mistreat them or they have this superiority complex that hides their self-doubt.

c) Like I said before, I am neither black, white nor asian. So I can't even fake an "exotic" look.

So I get no luck with women in the same ethnic AND with women from other ethnic groups.

The real reason why I read this forum is to live through others' reports the fantasy of being that man who is desired, of that confident and well-off man who is adventerous and self-assured. In reality, I am just another nobody in a sea of nobodies. I feel that I can't even look at a woman because I'm afraid she'll report me for harrassment. Maybe I need psychological counseling.

At this point, I can certainly use some tips from the experts at this little panel here. I think LTR is the only way I will ever have a decent sexual relationship because I certainly don't have the goods for STR nor a bang-bang.

I went through a period like this in my early twenties....massive debt, people sueing me left and right, gaining weight, forced to drop out of college, shit low paying-physicaly demanding high stress job, no car, moving home with my parents who heaped vicious abuse (which I had to endure on pain of being thrown out homeless) on me nearly around the clock...as a result, I was basically a beaten down, no self esteem, nervous wreck, like our friend here. Needless to say, no girl woud even look at me (despite this, one of my mother's incessant harping points was "Get Married-because two people can live cheaper than one") Towards the end of that ordeal (having worked my ass off in this situation for two years, until I got a better job, and went back to school-a student loan disbursement funded my move out of Mom and Dad's house) I actually had to have a dental procedure to have enamel bonded back on my teeth as I had ground all of it off (while awake)

Anyways, after all of that, I realized years later that I actually came out ahead, because statistically speaking, that would have been the time for some litte bimbo to have gotten her claws into me......I'm sure that a celibate marriage, likely divorce and subsequent child support would have put me all in all in a place much further away from where I want my life to be than the "lost years" did.

B8k

[Prov1]

Its nice to see The Great Mattrick back. He always shows up when there's a fight, usually to complain about the participants.

When he's not complaining, he's all over the place--a true cyber traveller. In the last two months he's posted in: Cuba, Canada, Brazil, Hong Kong, Macau, Philippines, Thailand (On The Go's thread), Morality of Prostitution, Special Interests, Colombia and more. I can't memorize them all.

He has a passion for travel, that's all I can say. And of course I applaud him for that.

Don

You are correct Senator Don in you assessment of Mattrick. It's funny, in all his posts he has yet to post a field report about a WOMAN! It make me wonder about this character...

[Bill Buxton]

A political thread on ISG? What is this website comming to?
You would think that by starting this thread, Jackson is trying to clean up the other P.I. threads so that our distinguished brethren can bicker to their hearts content but it does not seem to be working. Maybe give it a few days with the hope that the posters in question will get the picture and only post information or field reports.

Why would anyone with a good job in another country go to the P.I. and live?Maybe lazy?running from something?Or just wanting to escape life's general bull****.The P.I. through me eyes not a 2-3 week tourist but a fact finding person with enough money to stay anywhere in the world thinks this is a great playground for adult men to go.With other wide scale problems that most of the people do not know about.

I have told people I know about the bar scene and they listen just as I once did to a friend telling the yarn's.I am sure as God made green apples they think it's all bula bula.Thats ok that keeps the flood of people from hitting the area and keeping it for the ones that know the difference.Many guys from around the world come here and I have talked to many that have come here for years and they all have stories about things they saw or heard.I think I would have liked to read posts about other things here than just bar gals.I have many hours invested here also as I am sure many others do also trying to answer many questions about daily life in this country.I might be alone in feeling that asking a simple question and getting the answer in return being "why don't you read the board"not very helpful.

Obviously the easiest thing to do here is find a gal right?what about transportation,general mongering questions,air travel to other places,travel by boats,cost of buying general merchandise.Who wants to find out on his own all the right ways of doing business.Yes maby You or I found out the hard way and that's fine but whats wrong with giving someone a break?I am sure someone gave you a break one time or another.

I am telling the info here like I would want someone to have it told to me STRAIGHT UP.Where else can you live and eat and have a social life on 1000. or 2000, dollars a month? not here.And even support a family on that.Why would the government check camera phones computers for dirty pictures and other stuff when returning back home.It is because it's different here, and there is a small element of unsavory people that come and also live here.Yes the P.I. and also America and all over the globe.I am stating the facts about what I saw and lived not trashing or prasing anything.I posted last year because until now sim cards were not used in my country.That is another big question and with my phone I had to have the line opened, for it to work there.Yes it was stolen because after a while I let my guard down,ME, and I was too trusting and that's when I lost.Being complacent in a strange place, acting like I had all the answers, well that's what happens,no big deal.

Its all good info and there are no stupid questions to be asked here,Why not a new thread on every board here about ground and air transportation?I know it would have Ben a great place for me to spend some quality pc time.

Loosen up guys nobody has to prove anything here and who has all the answers to every question? not I.

Play Safe,

B.B...

[Dashing Don]

Its nice to see The Great Mattrick back. He always shows up when there's a fight, usually to complain about the participants.

When he's not complaining, he's all over the place--a true cyber traveller. In the last two months he's posted in: Cuba, Canada, Brazil, Hong Kong, Macau, Philippines, Thailand (On The Go's thread), Morality of Prostitution, Special Interests, Colombia and more. I can't memorize them all.

He has a passion for travel, that's all I can say. And of course I applaud him for that.

Don

[Columpuss]

Mattrick

It's not political. It is that I despite guys who come to the PIs, has green horns, got taken by real life and bad mouth about it.
They had their ways with the girls for a couple of bucks and yet something happened to them on their ways to get some actions, it is the end of the world.
They came to visit the Las Vegas of the PIs and they think the whole country is such. The country is not better or worse than others. When you come to look for sex, you are more likely surrrounded by shady characters.

[Buko Max]

I didn't sign on for this stuff.

A political thread on ISG? What is this website comming to?
You would think that by starting this thread, Jackson is trying to clean up the other P.I. threads so that our distinguished brethren can bicker to their hearts content but it does not seem to be working. Maybe give it a few days with the hope that the posters in question will get the picture and only post information or field reports.

[Dashing Don]

I just did some research.

Remember Numero One from the 'Who should be given their own thread' section? Well, Total Package is a dead ringer for Numero One. They repeat the same stuff. Throw in Chivas1 and you have all of On The Go's monikers. At least at the time of writing.

Guinness deserves special mention as he is like a bloodhound when it comes to sniffing out On The Go's latest ID. Well done Guinness!!

Back to Surfer: Will CL's post change Surfer's position on the multiple ID issue? Not likely. (BTW, CL, thanks for acknowledging my position as Senator). When Surfer doesn't understand an issue or feels threatened, he immediately throws up the 'multiple ID' smokescreen.

We all just have to hope that Surfer forgets to wax his board some day and when he takes a header, it ends up his rear end.

What an epitaph!

Don

[Cebu Local]

On a BRIGHTER note: I wish there were more expats in the PI like CanContrib, and LESS of the sex tourists who mistreat the babae. Yes some GROs are cheaters and swindlers, but there are also LOTS of very sweet, guilless, girls who come from desperately poor families with no alternative but to send their daughters to Manila, Cebu, Angeles etc. And MANY of these girls are manipulated and abused by foreign sex tourists (The Whites are almost as bad as the Japanese who are not nearly as bad as the Arabs).

My point is that guys need to wake up and smell the roses. A large part of the reason for the scammers is because they have previously been cheated by sex tourists from rich countries and they have learned to turn the tables and bvecome victimizer rather than victim.

Hi Surfer While I agree with you that there are many nice sweet guiless girls,There are plenty of scammers also,Being Foriegn looking But Filipino speaking allows me to eavesdrop on many bargirls chatting "girls talk" and one of their favorite topics is really discussing how to squeeze money out of the old stupid goats AKA Matandang Tangang Gurang na Kano.They also prefer westerners compared to Koreans and Arabs and in many cases Filipinos,Since They are better treated by most westerners compared to most Arabs and Koreans.Binababoy sila ng mga Arabo at Koreano.Personally I am active in Bantay Bata which is a local NGO that fights Child abuse and yes Kiddy Fuckers.But just because you believe strongly in something,You should not impose your views.Anyway my 2 centavos opinion

[Cebu Local]

Not being American,I dont think I should comment on USA politics,though I have lived in the PI for the last 14 years and speak Cebuano and Tagalog.However I would like to weigh in on the multiple ID issue,I had coffee with Guiness at Ziggurat Restaurant,While Prov 1 was tapping away at the 88 Internet Cafe Across the street,Guiness called Dashing Don at the Manila Peninsula where he really somehow registered himself as Senator Real name.There is no possibile way they could be the same guy.They are not even from the same state.For example one is from a Western State and the other is from a Northwestern state.I will be fixing travel arrangements for 2 of them visiting Cebu,So Anybody can always PM me if there are any other doubts,Back to regular programing

[Bill Buxton]

been away from the PI, and internet boards about the PI, but it seems little has changed. Yes there are scammers there, more than in most countries perhaps, but there are not many places with those sweet LBFMs available for ll nighters for less than the cost of a good dinner in the US.

The US is currently a VERY screwed up country too with the worst government in our history. But the "culture of corruption" in the republican party is done on such a grand scale (Abramoff alone put MILLIONS of dirty dollars into the hands of crooked Congressman) that the poor Filipinos seeking a few Piso seem like Pikers in comparison.

Also, despite driving in the PI NUMEROUS times, and getting pulled over twice (for legitimate infractions of which I was guilty), BOTH times I was let go without paying a single Piso. In the US you would have had to go to traffic school at minimum. I was NEVER pulled over for a made up violation, NEVER!

One time a taxi driver attempted to overcharge me for taking my surfboard to the airport. We were arguing in the street when a drunken PNP officer out of uniform (he showed me his ID) camev up and asked ME (the WHITE GUY) what the problem was. I told him the taxi driver was trying to overcharge me because I was American, then he lit into the driver (in Tagalog so I could only understand a portion of the exchange) and threatened him with violence if he did not accept the fare I was offering. He got red in the face and was SO angry both the cop's wife and I were worried he was going to pull his gun on the driver, she told me so as she tried to calm him down. The driver eventually relented and I profusely thanked the cop. He never asked me for a single Piso for his assistance.

None of this is to discount the presence of crooked cops, or scams, in the PI. You DO need to use good judgment at all times. But reading these whiny reports about how lousy the PI is, and how great America is, make me want to wretch just as surely as if I had eaten Balut. To ALL those who think shit don't stink in the US (most Filipinos think that but they can be forgiven as their views of the US are based on television, NOT reality) I say "STAY HOME THEN.

On a BRIGHTER note: I wish there were more expats in the PI like CanContrib, and LESS of the sex tourists who mistreat the babae. Yes some GROs are cheaters and swindlers, but there are also LOTS of very sweet, guilless, girls who come from desperately poor families with no alternative but to send their daughters to Manila, Cebu, Angeles etc. And MANY of these girls are manipulated and abused by foreign sex tourists (The Whites are almost as bad as the Japanese who are not nearly as bad as the Arabs).

My point is that guys need to wake up and smell the roses. A large part of the reason for the scammers is because they have previously been cheated by sex tourists from rich countries and they have learned to turn the tables and bvecome victimizer rather than victim.

I think this board is about info and it was a culture shock to look at a shotgunyealding guard at a mickey D's when trying to eat my happy meal.The raod checks by PNP holding an M-16.The reason I posted this is because several guys including myself until I went there never had the experience in the differences of there own countries verses this one.It is not just about fucking some bar gal and telling about how many times you got your NUT,and weather she spit afterwards.I guarantee that many guys if they have the time to stay in the Philippines 4-6 months will have similar things they saw or heard about from longtime players.How hard is it to get a gal in any area of the P.I. Anyway,toothless,bald,fat,skinney,black white or green you have the cash the gals will follow.Just a slight difference than in America,OZ, or other places on the planet I am sure, or we would all not want to go and taste the fruits of DA JUNGLE.

B.B...

[HenryV]

Wow - is this the begining of paid political anouncements on this board?

I didn't sign on for this stuff.

been away from the PI, and internet boards about the PI, but it seems little has changed. Yes there are scammers there, more than in most countries perhaps, but there are not many places with those sweet LBFMs available for ll nighters for less than the cost of a good dinner in the US.

The US is currently a VERY screwed up country too with the worst government in our history. But the "culture of corruption" in the republican party is done on such a grand scale (Abramoff alone put MILLIONS of dirty dollars into the hands of crooked Congressman) that the poor Filipinos seeking a few Piso seem like Pikers in comparison.

Also, despite driving in the PI NUMEROUS times, and getting pulled over twice (for legitimate infractions of which I was guilty), BOTH times I was let go without paying a single Piso. In the US you would have had to go to traffic school at minimum. I was NEVER pulled over for a made up violation, NEVER!

One time a taxi driver attempted to overcharge me for taking my surfboard to the airport. We were arguing in the street when a drunken PNP officer out of uniform (he showed me his ID) camev up and asked ME (the WHITE GUY) what the problem was. I told him the taxi driver was trying to overcharge me because I was American, then he lit into the driver (in Tagalog so I could only understand a portion of the exchange) and threatened him with violence if he did not accept the fare I was offering. He got red in the face and was SO angry both the cop's wife and I were worried he was going to pull his gun on the driver, she told me so as she tried to calm him down. The driver eventually relented and I profusely thanked the cop. He never asked me for a single Piso for his assistance.

None of this is to discount the presence of crooked cops, or scams, in the PI. You DO need to use good judgment at all times. But reading these whiny reports about how lousy the PI is, and how great America is, make me want to wretch just as surely as if I had eaten Balut. To ALL those who think shit don't stink in the US (most Filipinos think that but they can be forgiven as their views of the US are based on television, NOT reality) I say "STAY HOME THEN.

On a BRIGHTER note: I wish there were more expats in the PI like CanContrib, and LESS of the sex tourists who mistreat the babae. Yes some GROs are cheaters and swindlers, but there are also LOTS of very sweet, guilless, girls who come from desperately poor families with no alternative but to send their daughters to Manila, Cebu, Angeles etc. And MANY of these girls are manipulated and abused by foreign sex tourists (The Whites are almost as bad as the Japanese who are not nearly as bad as the Arabs).

My point is that guys need to wake up and smell the roses. A large part of the reason for the scammers is because they have previously been cheated by sex tourists from rich countries and they have learned to turn the tables and bvecome victimizer rather than victim.

[Bill Buxton]

I am not saying that the states are great just giving my personal feelings and insight into potential problems as I viewed them.PERSONAL MY OPINION not trying to say anything other than what might pop up for a new guy entering the wild west.

And after my 6 month visit I would rather be there than some other so called great places in the world.Visit is the term not retire or escape whatever is closing in on me like many others have.Where else can you get by on a small retirement check every month and have an 18 year old gf that thinks you are rich?Like I said many times,IF ALL THE FOREIGN GUYS WERE RICH THEY WOULD NOT LIVE HERE.Likethe foreigner that told me his bar was making money,sure,taking in pesos and spending the same.I said take in dollars,pounds,euro,and spend pesos and then you will be making money.Everyone here wants to be a big fish,but remember it is a small pond,not hard.The big fish keep on doing what they do in there own country and don't try to impress the wizards here.How hard is it anyway?most everyone I knew here was drunk or well on his way by noon.Delusions of grandeur and foolish people loosing there money I heard it all go figure.Ask a bar girl where the foreigners leave there brains? at the airport they say.

Through the eyes of a regular guy, B.B...

[Columpuss]

bb

corrupted cops, pimps selling kids or whatever it is, beggars chasing you down the street, the big picture here is nobody dies. no ****s kidnapping kid, [CodeWord123], mutilate and kill them.
guess where i live? a little corner of the world where it breeds serial killers
300 points for the correct response. and no it's not some 3rd world country.

my uncle has his retirement savings wiped out by some dope heads running what was once, one of the biggest companies in the world and was once endorsed by the president. guess the company and the president, and no he didn't take any contribution money because people don't do that in the west.

the syndrome here is, it is ok to be stabbed by my brother than robbed by my neighbor.

[Total Package]

hey dude,

it is because of [deleted by admin] like you i never choose to make posts or share my photos. surfer has made more quality posts than you have ever shagged in women. you are all [deleted by admin] and someone who has to make up multiple identifications here on the isg to amuse yourself and who has to live in a fantasy world as you are nothing but a wannabee monger. surfer i hope you just ignore this [deleted by admin] and keep up your good work or do as i do and not post jack shit. [CodeWord132] don and your multiple id's get really old in a hurry and i can see by the number of comments other members make to your posts they are all sick of you and your bullshit as well. from what i can see not one member has made a comment to a post you and your ids have made. that should tell you something or do you just not get it?. you really must have serious issues that you have to spend so much time on a computer writing posts to your various identifications on here. i see by reading your previous posts you seem to be a real trouble maker, and if it wasn't for your friendship with jackson i am sure you would would not be here along with your prov 01 and guinness. i am sure i am making this post on behalf of many other members on here [deleted by admin].

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