American Politics

[JustTK]

So here's what you say you want from the experts:
Reporter: "So, Dr. , Fauci, how does this virus spread"?
Dr. Fauci: "We don't have a fucking clue. Maybe by touch, maybe somehow else. ".

He doesn't need to swear in every sentence. Just tell the truth instead of spread unproven theories as fact.

[EihTooms]

Otherwise, the GOP will have nothing to run on this midterm. Absolutely nothing.

Fuel prices may keep falling after Labor Day, could dip below $3 in some states

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/05/gaso...ndroidappshare

Labor Day is here and summer driving season is coming to an end, without the protracted period of super high gasoline prices some had feared.

Prices at the pump could continue their two-month decline. GasBuddy expects some states could see prices average even below $3 per gallon at some point later this year.

Analysts warn the outlook for gasoline prices could change at any point, particularly if there is a hurricane affecting the U.S. Gulf Coast or there is a spike in oil prices.

Not that they had a damn thing to run on even with higher gas prices on tap.

[PVMonger]

I agree that's how science works. Try and error thru experimentation. Predicting results then testing for them repeatedly.

But none of the clowns qualified their statements when they made them. Chump, Biden, nor Fauci.

Chump didn't qualify his ridiculous claim that the vurus would be gone in X weeks, Biden didn't qualify his claim that you couldn; t catch the virus if you took the vaccine, and Fauci made countless unqualified claims. How do I know? Bcos I have watched them in uncut forms.

So what would Dr. Fauci's "unqualified statements" look like? Like this?

Reporter: "So, Dr, Fauci, how does this virus spread"?

Dr. Fauci: "We don't have a fucking clue. Maybe by touch, maybe somehow else."

Reporter: "Dr. Fauci, do masks work"?

Dr. Fauci: "We don't have a fucking clue. But it all depends on how the virus spreads and we don't know anything about that".

Reporter: "What about tRUMP's 'bright light' theory"?

Dr. Fauci: "If shoving a lightbulbs up your ass floats your boat, do it. But you might want to be careful trying to sit down".

Reporter: "What about alternative treatments? "

Dr. Fauci: "Alternative treatments? Like massage? Like what? Who knows about alternative treatments. Maybe some work but maybe they don't. "

If Dr. Fauci would have said those things, you would have said something like "Expert? How can that be? He doesn't know anything. "

See, that's the problem here. If a subject-matter expert issues qualifying statements, they will soon be discounted as a subject-matter expert because of the qualifying statements. If they don't issue qualifying statements, then people will say they lied.

Sort of a no-win situation, wouldn't you say?

[JustTK]

All the scientific knowledge that we rely on came about this way: an experiment suggests a certain thing is true; more experiments refine our understanding or they demonstrate that our original understanding is either wrong or incomplete and we have to throw everything out and start anew. The fact that Fauci qualifies his statements with phrases like "to the best our knowledge" and "as we're finding out with study" shows that he understands the scientific method and the limits of our knowledge, and that is why he is respected.

I agree that's how science works. Try and error thru experimentation. Predicting results then testing for them repeatedly.

But none of the clowns qualified their statements when they made them. Chump, Biden, nor Fauci.

Chump didn't qualify his ridiculous claim that the vurus would be gone in X weeks, Biden didn't qualify his claim that you couldn; t catch the virus if you took the vaccine, and Fauci made countless unqualified claims. How do I know? Bcos I have watched them in uncut forms. They all make statements as if they are giving proclamations from on high.

[Cali Guy]

Past history is irrelevant. Current times show the dems failing the American people. Look at Biden and the current dems last 18 months. Current history shows dems totally inept compared to all administrations in last 40 years.

1. Crime and murders skyrocketing especially in dem run states.

2. Border security at worst level ever with millions of illegals just walking across the border.

3. Highest inflation in 40 years.

4. Natural gas prices up 400-500%.

5. Gas prices and oil prices up over 100%.

6. food prices up 26%.

Correct. These are Biden's accomplishments. And when intelligent people bring these accomplishments to light the dumb people say he is doing a good job. They did a survey recently in New York asking people on the street what they thought of Biden job performance in the first 18 months of his presidency. Over 50% said they thought he was doing OK. They then asked what one thing that he did has made their life better and no one could give a positive answer. Biden policies have damaged 100% of the USA population's lifestyle. Biden is counting on democrats to continue to be dumb and be stupid enough to believe that none of his failures were his fault. He has blamed everyone for his disastrous presidency. The dumb continue to support him.

[EihTooms]

So here's what you say you want from the experts:

Reporter: "So, Dr. , Fauci, how does this virus spread"?

Dr. Fauci: "We don't have a fucking clue. Maybe by touch, maybe somehow else. ".

Reporter: "Dr. Fauci, do masks work"?

Dr. Fauci: "We don't have a fucking clue. But it all depends on how the virus spreads and we don't know anything about that".

Reporter: "What about tRUMP's 'bright light' theory"?

Dr. Fauci: "If shoving a lightbulbs up your ass floats your boat, do it. But you might want to be careful trying to sit down".

Reporter: "What about alternative treratments. ".

Dr. Fauci: "Alternative treatments? Like massage? Like what? Who knows about alternative treatments. Maybe some work but maybe they don't. ".

Yep, you nailed it. That is exactly what they want. About everything.

Think how much easier it would be for them to argue that nobody knows anything, nothing works any better than anything else, who cares about democracy, it's the same as an authoritarian dictatorship. False equivalency! Bothsiderism! Neithersiderism! Anarchy!

LOL.

[EihTooms]

All the scientific knowledge that we rely on came about this way: an experiment suggests a certain thing is true; more experiments refine our understanding or they demonstrate that our original understanding is either wrong or incomplete and we have to throw everything out and start anew. The fact that Fauci qualifies his statements with phrases like "to the best our knowledge" and "as we're finding out with study" shows that he understands the scientific method and the limits of our knowledge, and that is why he is respected.

True. And it requires far more attention to nuance and critical thinking than most if not all wingers can muster.

[Beno69]

Taking photos of classified information (as the FBI just did) is illegal. - But remove them from the white House is not???
... A "special master" is a an objective third party like a former judge who will review the documents and the FBI and DOJ are vehemently opposed...
...This latest outrage was because the FBI does not want anyone seeing those documents.... - They will present everything to the court before Donald go to jail...

- But remove them from the White House is not?

- They will present everything to the court before Donald go to jail.

[PVMonger]

So I read the stupid article you linked before, and it is written in August 2021.

And it is classic government bullshit. What does of gain of function mean? And we have this panel of experts who says that the NIH funding does not meet the definition of gain of function. This is what you dumb Dems do all the time. It is the famous Clinton line on what your definition of is is.

You do not listen to Jimmy Dore. In fact, some fool just waved his hand and said, "You know, Jimmy Dore is not that great of a source" as if Jimmy Dore is not quoting other things.

In this case, he was referencing this headline in Vanity Fair. This was written four months after the BBC one you linked. The headline reads, In Major Shift, NIH Admits Funding Risky Virus Research in Wuhan.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021...earch-in-wuhan

So you are and were completely wrong and now the question is WTF do we do with you? It would be easy if you just admitted you were wrong, but you never do that. It is "never mind" and off to the next topic. The government releases a narrative and you dumb Dems totally buy in and do so even after the government changes its mind.

You cannot admit Rand Paul was right about this and Fauci was lying. Why? Why do you guys have such a vested interest in going against EVERYTHING Rand Paul says or does? If a Democrat is right or doing something virtuous, I can say it.

So the actual people who created the virus, the supposedly apolitical bureaucrats, who funded them are off the hook. Why? Why are you so angry at Trump and not the assholes who created the fucking virus?

Because Trump did not mandate the vaccines. Because Trump did not drape himself up as a "scientist" and proclaim he was all knowing like Fauci. Trump did not say this was a "pandemic of the unvaccinated". I do not know any Republican who was against people electing to get the vaccine. Being forced to do it was something else.

As for real scientists, I will remind you that, The Great Barrington Declaration was authored by Sunetra Gupta of the University of Oxford, Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford University, and Martin Kulldorff of Harvard University, it was drafted at the American Institute for Economic Research in Great Barrington, Massachusetts, signed there on 4 October 2020, and published on 5 October.

The declaration says that lockdowns have adverse effects on physical and mental health, for example, because people postpone preventive healthcare.

You are the one who has said that the vaccines are worthless. Just answer a couple of very simple questions: (1) "Who was the president when these worthless vaccines were created"? And (2) "Who paid millions of US funds to vaccine companies to develop these worthless vaccines"?

They are very simple questions. Each one requires a one word answer so your response does not require more than 3 words. But I'll bet you won't answer.

Oh, and FYI, re: Donnie the Dumbass's underatanding of viruses, etc. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...bbf_story.html.

"I like this stuff. I really get it," Trump boasted to reporters during a tour of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, where he met with actual doctors and scientists who are feverishly scrambling to contain and combat the deadly illness. Citing a "great, super-genius uncle" who taught at MIT, Trump professed that it must run in the family genes.

"People are really surprised I understand this stuff," he said. "Every one of these doctors said, 'How do you know so much about this?' Maybe I have a natural ability."

But for members of the general public alarmed by more than 300 diagnosed cases in the United States — including at least 21 that his administration announced Friday were discovered on a cruise ship off the San Francisco coast — Trump's performance during an impromptu 45-minute news conference at CDC was not necessarily reassuring."

[PVMonger]

All the scientific knowledge that we rely on came about this way: an experiment suggests a certain thing is true; more experiments refine our understanding or they demonstrate that our original understanding is either wrong or incomplete and we have to throw everything out and start anew. The fact that Fauci qualifies his statements with phrases like "to the best our knowledge" and "as we're finding out with study" shows that he understands the scientific method and the limits of our knowledge, and that is why he is respected.

See, public education in the USA has been so "dumbed down" (especially in states that voted for Donnie the Dumbass) that 74+ million voters have no clue about science or how it works. They don't understand vaccines or how they work. The have just enough brainpower to understand a 3-to-5-word slogan like "lock her up" or "make America great again" or "stop the steal". Anything more complicated is lost on them and they go through life wondering what happened.

That's why we hear so many ludicrous statements coming from the RethugliKKKan crowd which doesn't have enough IQ points to decorate a domino: "The vaccine contains microchips", "the vaccine will change your DNA", "Finland rakes their forests", "Chinese thermostats changed votes", "Jewish space lasers cause forest fires", "Italian satellites changed votes", "shoving a lightbulb up your ass will cure COVID", "injecting disinfectant cures COVID" or "tRUMP didn't actually have any classified documents". All of these statements are patently absurd, yet there are almost no RethugliKKKans who will argue against them.

When you're dealing with that kind of ignorance, you can't win. You just need to shake your head and wonder how some of these people manage to dress themselves. The scary thing is that they vote. Maybe we ought to go back to having an IQ test to get a ballot. The number of people voting RethugliKKKan would number in the single digits compared to the 81 million Democrats who'd receive a ballot.

[ErsatzJulian]

I (we all) saw scores of public statements made by the respected Dr, Fauci.

Like many scientists, he was constantly including in his statements weasel clauses like "to the best of our knowledge" or "As we're finding out with study" and always warning that recommendations could change.

This position that professionals getting better & changing best practices is proof that they were professionally deficient earlier is a stupid position. It garners laughs every time you write it.

All the scientific knowledge that we rely on came about this way: an experiment suggests a certain thing is true; more experiments refine our understanding or they demonstrate that our original understanding is either wrong or incomplete and we have to throw everything out and start anew. The fact that Fauci qualifies his statements with phrases like "to the best our knowledge" and "as we're finding out with study" shows that he understands the scientific method and the limits of our knowledge, and that is why he is respected.

[JustTK]

Like many scientists, he was constantly including in his statements weasel clauses like "to the best of our knowledge" or "As we're finding out with study" and always warning that recommendations could change.

I have heard him make these types of statements. Always as an excuse after someone has called him out for his lies. Its not a luaghung matter.

[GDreams]

You are correct on one thing. Under Biden energy policy has has gone up 500%. Oil has gone up 100%. Great job Brandon.

So I blew up your comments for the idiocy they represent so rather than admit you are wrong you deflect to the US. So you write "Under Biden energy policy has has gone up 500% What does that even mean? He has 500% more policies? Truly outstanding information not that anyone can use it. Just before Covid the oil price was $70 - 75 for WTI. Now it is $88. That is about 22% in 3 years. Not bad after the disastrous Trump response to Covid when oil could not be given away. Given all the wells that were shut down and the refineries closed, never to reopen again during Trump and European wars Biden has done a fantastic job getting the oil price under control while achieving the greatest job figures of all time!

[ScatManDoo]

Once again Canada caught in a lie reverts to spin to try to justify the lie. The tariffs are paid by the US consumers. Thats it. You said China paid. They didn't and don't. Just like Mexico didn't pay for the wall. So Trump hurt the farmers with his failed trade war and paid them off with funds taken from American consumers and you blame Biden for inflation when the root cause is Donnys stupid trade war and failed Covid response. Spin that!

Canada can't.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Raping women, is where you mind goes w/r to anwsering question between Dems and Repubs? Really?

How does your raping women analogy, get you closer to your,

"Freedom of movement, no borders. Now imagine that you remove the federal government and you decentralise the decision making back to county level, or even lower. That's pretty much what I want for the entire world."???

Anywho, carry on, with your Bothsiderism.

Hopefully, many of your QAnon/Repubs cohorts, will follow suit and NOT VOTE (or vote independent) and continue to IGNORE the QAnon/Repub party, that remains the greater evil to a better democracy.

As he said its not bothsiderism, its neithersideism.

There is only one true God and that is Donald J Trump.

The mortal enemy of the WEF along with Vlad.

Back to JKs superb analogy.

Let me phrase it this way.

"gun to your head" or not LOL.

Would you rather blow and swallow Chuck Schumer or Mitch McConnell?

Would you rather get fucked up the ass / no lube by Chuck or Mitch?

Would you rather deep rim Chuck or Mitch?

So no force involved, blindly voting for the policies of the DNC or GOP.

You are just picking between the choices above.

Chuck or Mitch what's your flavor?