American Politics

[Tiny 12]

That one is so easy I bet even you knew it before you posted that. The same as you knew the stock market has indeed performed better under Dems than Repubs:

Of that group only Hoover, GW Bush and Trump produced stock market crashes well beyond a conventional 20% Correction decline.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stocks-...rs-2020-03-18/

The stock market experiences gains roughly 75% of the time. That is the normal tendency for it. That is a factor in why investing in broadly diversified Index funds for the long term produces better results for more investors than stock picking; you will go along for that 75% ride and not miss it standing on the sidelines guessing which individual stocks might make up for what you missed.

But the 25% of the time when it declines can be brutal. History shows Repubs produce the most brutal declines. Well, all of them for the past 100 years or so.

It is during the most brutal declines that investors who just can't handle the pain bail out. By the millions. And usually at or near the bottom. Life savings and future plans are wiped out. Forever, if, as is often the case those investors vow to never return again.

That kind of deep decline has never happened under Dem economic policy and stewardship, it has only happened under Repubs since the Great Repub Crash and Depression.

Lackluster stock market returns are not damaging in that way. They do not tend to shake out investors by the millions after scary, serious, historic losses. For one thing, that is because such a period of lackluster returns, say 15-24 months, often comes about because the Fed spends that much time dithering over whether and how much to ease off raising or ease off lowering Fed Funds Rates in light of clear signs of a recovery from, typically, a Great Repub Economic Disaster. The Fed's dithering and indecision about that prevents investors from going in as much as they would ordinarily during such economically benign times. And the overall improvement in the economy keeps them from bailing out entirely.

Such was the case for about 16 months at the end of Obama's Great Dem Recovery while the Fed dithered over raising Rates as the full Recovery was solidifying and, this time, regarding lowering Fed Funds Rates related to unavoidable Trump's Pandemic Recovery Inflation, for the past 22 months of Biden's Great Dem Recovery. The markets simply traded within a range roughly between a Correction and the market high, not yet confident enough (due to Fed dithering about rates) to exceed the previous all time closing high.

That is much preferred over those Great Repub Crashes during periods of, wildly coincidentally I know, the exact same Repub-style disproportionately high tax cuts for top margins and corporations accompanied by little or no attention to regulations that, again, only wildly coincidentally, are promoted and overseen only by Repubs and never by Dems.

All wild coincidences, of course. The Major Repub Crashes and the Historic Dem Recoveries, that is. For about 100 years so far.

Stock market declines, recessions and a pandemic would have occurred in 2020 and around 2008/2009 if John Kerry or Hillary Clinton had been president, instead of Bush and Trump. About Hoover, I don't remember back to 1929. The party of the president is pretty far down the list of what causes market indices to go up and down.

That's an interesting theory you have about tax cuts and market performance. Very unconventional. Individual tax cuts provide stimulus to the economy and corporate cuts boost after tax profits, which in turn cause share prices to increase, all else being equal.

Please recall the NBER piece that determined changes in corporate taxation in 2018 as a result of the Republicans' TCJA actually caused government revenues to be higher than they would be otherwise. Everybody, the corporations, workers, and the taxpayer, are better off as a result -- more corporate profits, more jobs, higher wages, and higher revenues to the government.

Did it occur to you that one of the reasons for higher corporate profits and thus higher share prices is the TCJA? Recall that by the estimates in the NBER paper it took 4 years for the benefits of the TCJA to kick in to such an extent that government revenues are higher than they would have been otherwise. Similarly the benefits to investment, jobs and corporate profits are greater now than they were in 2018.

The USA has the most progressive tax system in the developed world. It had the highest corporate rate in the developed world prior to 2018.

[EihTooms]

"Your hero, lord and savior, oppressing immigrants and hiring undocumented workers. All to save a buck.

https://time.com/4465744/donald-trum...ented-workers/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ff7_story.html

He threatened to call the Immigration and Naturalization Service and have the Poles deported to avoid paying them. They were working 12 hours a day under unsafe conditions and not getting paid. ".

Seriously you're going to try to use Time or WAPO as a source LMAO.

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-elect...allot-removal/

WHOMP WHOMP WHOMP.

Of course, Trump's poll numbers went up among Repubs for the Repub Primary election. That is why I pointed out it was all admitted Repubs and 1 likely Repub only pretending to be an "Independent" that filed that lawsuit knowing full well the Colorado Supreme Court would have no choice but to follow the clear and unambiguous Constitutional disqualification and of Trump as a so-called potus and determine him ineligible to run. Those Repubs knew their Party loves itself some anti-American Insurrectionist Traitors bent on crapping all over the USA Economy, National Security, the USA Constitution and wiping out millions upon millions of jobs while publicly blowing Xi, Kim and Putin.

Your boy, in other words. Especially him. But almost any other Repub will do.

However, I question that it helps Trump beat Biden. See, there have all along been telltale signs in those polls that mostly deeply aggrieved admitted Repubs and deeply aggreived Repubs pretending to be "Independents" were racing to their phones and computers this far out from the general election in order to express to any and all pollsters their undying love for Trump or any other Repub certain to produce the aforementioned disastrous Repub results. For example:

https://www.deseret.com/2023/12/5/23...be-the-nominee

Do you think Donald Trump will win or lose the Republican primaries for President?

ALL VOTERS:

60% Yes
40% No

Huh? 40% of ALL VOTERS sampled in that poll think the idiot Repub whose poll numbers has had him 50-60 points ahead of the nearest Repub rival for the nomination in practically every poll since the beginning, a greater margin for the GOP nomination than any candidate in history, think he WON'T get the nomination? Before this Colorado Supreme Court decision came down?

Holy shit. Obviously, very, very few VOTERS have been paying the least bit of attention to any of this up to now. If they had been, that number would have been more like 5%.

So now is the time when more and more voters will finally begin to pay attention to what the candidates stand for, have done and are campaigning on. Which, as usual, is a much worse proposition for Trump or any other Repub than for Biden. Or any other Dem, for that matter.

[EihTooms]

That's quite an achievement! During the last 100 years, the Dow only hit records during the Biden, Trump, Obama, George W. Bush, Clinton, George H. W. Bush, Reagan, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, Eisenhower, Hoover and Coolidge Administrations.

In fact, the only elected presidents during the last century who didn't see records set in the Dow were Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Harry Truman, and Jimmy Carter.

Looking forward to Toom's explanation, most likely during a cherry picked period, on how the stock market has outperformed under Democratic presidents. Tooms, it's just coincidence, like Roosevelt, Truman and Carter being Democrats.

That one is so easy I bet even you knew it before you posted that. The same as you knew the stock market has indeed performed better under Dems than Repubs:

Of that group only Hoover, GW Bush and Trump produced stock market crashes well beyond a conventional 20% Correction decline.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stocks-...rs-2020-03-18/

The stock market experiences gains roughly 75% of the time. That is the normal tendency for it. That is a factor in why investing in broadly diversified Index funds for the long term produces better results for more investors than stock picking; you will go along for that 75% ride and not miss it standing on the sidelines guessing which individual stocks might make up for what you missed.

But the 25% of the time when it declines can be brutal. History shows Repubs produce the most brutal declines. Well, all of them for the past 100 years or so.

It is during the most brutal declines that investors who just can't handle the pain bail out. By the millions. And usually at or near the bottom. Life savings and future plans are wiped out. Forever, if, as is often the case those investors vow to never return again.

That kind of deep decline has never happened under Dem economic policy and stewardship, it has only happened under Repubs since the Great Repub Crash and Depression.

Lackluster stock market returns are not damaging in that way. They do not tend to shake out investors by the millions after scary, serious, historic losses. For one thing, that is because such a period of lackluster returns, say 15-24 months, often comes about because the Fed spends that much time dithering over whether and how much to ease off raising or ease off lowering Fed Funds Rates in light of clear signs of a recovery from, typically, a Great Repub Economic Disaster. The Fed's dithering and indecision about that prevents investors from going in as much as they would ordinarily during such economically benign times. And the overall improvement in the economy keeps them from bailing out entirely.

Such was the case for about 16 months at the end of Obama's Great Dem Recovery while the Fed dithered over raising Rates as the full Recovery was solidifying and, this time, regarding lowering Fed Funds Rates related to unavoidable Trump's Pandemic Recovery Inflation, for the past 22 months of Biden's Great Dem Recovery. The markets simply traded within a range roughly between a Correction and the market high, not yet confident enough (due to Fed dithering about rates) to exceed the previous all time closing high.

That is much preferred over those Great Repub Crashes during periods of, wildly coincidentally I know, the exact same Repub-style disproportionately high tax cuts for top margins and corporations accompanied by little or no attention to regulations that, again, only wildly coincidentally, are promoted and overseen only by Repubs and never by Dems.

All wild coincidences, of course. The Major Repub Crashes and the Historic Dem Recoveries, that is. For about 100 years so far.

[MarquisdeSade1]

"If tweet were true, it's hard to see why MAGA nation and the faithless would be upset about the gay priests and LGBTQ rights. I'm sure just more subterfuge for the gullible MAGA media, who eat that "shit-up". Just like when he says, "Dictator ONLY on day 1".

"Social / Economic liberal", is that what you Repubs "moderate" and "normies" are calling themselves these days? (. kkkk!

Not too worry, in light of the Pope now allowing priests to bless LGBTQ couples, there's maybe hope for all those being called "son (s) of Satan" and who knows, maybe even the 2 x impeached, 4 x indicted "devil" himself? (. kkKk!

Local leaders welcome popes statement on LGBTQ couples.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...es/ar-AA1lHUFq

The homophobes here and at MILFs for Liberty, must be blowing a gasket, over the Pope's blessing of LGBTQ congregation. I wonder what that does for their "DON't SAY GAY!" laws and their so called religious beliefs, if the Pope is okaying / blessing LGBTQ unions?

https://www.newsmax.com/us/franklin-...21/id/1146754/

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/po...20/id/1146680/

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/r...19/id/1146480/

He will say anything for a few Argentinian pesos.

https://www.ncronline.org/news/javie...ions-argentina

[MarquisdeSade1]

"Your hero, lord and savior, oppressing immigrants and hiring undocumented workers. All to save a buck.

https://time.com/4465744/donald-trum...ented-workers/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ff7_story.html

He threatened to call the Immigration and Naturalization Service and have the Poles deported to avoid paying them. They were working 12 hours a day under unsafe conditions and not getting paid. ".

Seriously you're going to try to use Time or WAPO as a source LMAO.

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-elect...allot-removal/

WHOMP WHOMP WHOMP.

[Tiny 12]

Not too worry, in light of the Pope now allowing priests to bless LGBTQ couples, there's maybe hope for all those being called "son(s) of Satan"

I'm not Catholic.

[Tiny 12]

"Well, you pegged me wrong, I'm a social liberal and an economic liberal. That's why the Marquis believes I'm one of Satan's children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism".

https://www.breitbart.com/immigratio...avor-migrants/

Allahu Akbar.

Your hero, lord and savior, oppressing immigrants and hiring undocumented workers. All to save a buck.

https://time.com/4465744/donald-trum...ented-workers/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ff7_story.html

He threatened to call the Immigration and Naturalization Service and have the Poles deported to avoid paying them. They were working 12 hours a day under unsafe conditions and not getting paid.

[Tiny 12]

The latest stock market results and the coming easing of FED interest rate interference, has the markets roaring and surging to new highs.

Good one, Donald: Biden flaunts stock market record highs, mocks Trump for predicting collapse
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/15/bide...-collapse.html

President Joe Biden continues to delivery up exceptional economic results that translate to 52-wk and all-highs on all major stock indexes.

Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress on inflation
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...nterest-rates/

Real stewardship, real economy and real results...Book it!

That's quite an achievement! During the last 100 years, the Dow only hit records during the Biden, Trump, Obama, George W. Bush, Clinton, George H. W. Bush, Reagan, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy, Eisenhower, Hoover and Coolidge Administrations.

In fact, the only elected presidents during the last century who didn't see records set in the Dow were Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Harry Truman, and Jimmy Carter.

Looking forward to Toom's explanation, most likely during a cherry picked period, on how the stock market has outperformed under Democratic presidents. Tooms, it's just coincidence, like Roosevelt, Truman and Carter being Democrats.

[EihTooms]

The DNC and Dirtbag Joe
"That before it was officially determined at the state level that the USA Constitution clearly states that anti-America insurrectionist traitors like Donald Trump are no more qualified and eligible to run for President and appear on a ballot for such than a 14 year old, a Russian National or a sea slug, Joe Biden was already beating him in the previously Mainstream Media-celebrated NYT / Sienna Poll and beating both DeSantis and Haley in the Ultra Winger-celebrated Harvard / Harris Poll:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Just sayin'. ".

Are existential threats to Democracy, charging their opponent with 90 felonies and illegally trying to kick him off the ballot.

They cheated in 2020 and trying to throw everything including the kitchen sink at him again.

They know they could never beat MAGA fair and square.

Dirtbag Joe needs to be indicted for all of this Jan 2025.

Will he pardon the Junkie and himself (and his whole Dirtbag crime family) before hes run out of office?

The lawsuit that brought it to this point in Colorado was filed by Repubs and 1 Independent. No Dems.

The DNC and Joe Biden had nothing to do with it.

And it has all been 100% legal. Your boy disqualified himself and made himself Constitutionally ineligible to be a so-called potus or any other federal official again.

But, there is still hope for you. There are surely enough America-hating Repub hypocrites on the Supreme Court to once again reverse every States Rights principle their party has been blathering about since forever and carve out a "one time only" exception to what is clearly stated in the USA Constitution in order to help your boy get into office and continue to shit all over the economy and national security as The Worst So-Called President of All Time. The same as they did for Repub GW Bush, The Second Worst So-Called President of All Time.

[MarquisdeSade1]

"Well, you pegged me wrong, I'm a social liberal and an economic liberal. That's why the Marquis believes I'm one of Satan's children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism".

https://www.breitbart.com/immigratio...avor-migrants/

Allahu Akbar.

[Spidy]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...Fid%3D48858527

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dona...ry?id=38566263

OK, now I'm trolling.

If tweet were true, it's hard to see why MAGA nation and the faithless would be upset about the gay priests and LGBTQ rights. I'm sure just more subterfuge for the gullible MAGA media, who eat that "shit-up". Just like when he says, "Dictator ONLY on day 1"

Well, you pegged me wrong, I'm a social liberal and an economic liberal. That's why the Marquis believes I'm one of Satan's children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism

"Social/Economic liberal", is that what you Repubs "moderate" and "normies" are calling themselves these days? (...kkkk!).

Not too worry, in light of the Pope now allowing priests to bless LGBTQ couples, there's maybe hope for all those being called "son(s) of Satan" and who knows, maybe even the 2x impeached, 4x indicted "devil" himself? (...kkKk!)

Local leaders welcome popes statement on LGBTQ couples
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...es/ar-AA1lHUFq

The homophobes here and at MILFs for Liberty, must be blowing a gasket, over the Pope's blessing of LGBTQ congregation. I wonder what that does for their "DON't SAY GAY!" laws and their so called religious beliefs, if the Pope is okaying/blessing LGBTQ unions?

[Spidy]

Now Quinnipiac is showing Biden ahead of Trump in a poll that must have been conducted before a State Supreme Court ruled that, sure enough, the USA Constitution stipulates in no uncertain terms that anti-America Insurrectionist Traitors like Donald Trump who already took and then proudly and publicly broke an Oath of Office to Preserve and Protect the laws in that very Constitution, lying through his teeth about that as well as everything else the whole time and ever since, are no longer qualified and eligible to be believed on such a serious proposition ever again. And, further, that it would be illegal for a state to grant him a second shot at it.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

The latest stock market results and the coming easing of FED interest rate interference, has the markets roaring and surging to new highs.

‘Good one, Donald’: Biden flaunts stock market record highs, mocks Trump for predicting ‘collapse’
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/15/bide...-collapse.html

President Joe Biden continues to delivery up exceptional economic results that translate to 52-wk and all-highs on all major stock indexes.

Dow Jones hits an all-time high as investors cheer progress on inflation
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...nterest-rates/

Real stewardship, real economy and real results...Book it!

[MarquisdeSade1]

That before it was officially determined at the state level that the USA Constitution clearly states that anti-America insurrectionist traitors like Donald Trump are no more qualified and eligible to run for President and appear on a ballot for such than a 14 year old, a Russian National or a sea slug, Joe Biden was already beating him in the previously Mainstream Media-celebrated NYT / Sienna Poll and beating both DeSantis and Haley in the Ultra Winger-celebrated Harvard / Harris Poll:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Just sayin'. ".

https://www.breitbart.com/latin-amer...lorado-ruling/

[MarquisdeSade1]

"That before it was officially determined at the state level that the USA Constitution clearly states that anti-America insurrectionist traitors like Donald Trump are no more qualified and eligible to run for President and appear on a ballot for such than a 14 year old, a Russian National or a sea slug, Joe Biden was already beating him in the previously Mainstream Media-celebrated NYT / Sienna Poll and beating both DeSantis and Haley in the Ultra Winger-celebrated Harvard / Harris Poll:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Just sayin'. ".

Are existential threats to Democracy, charging their opponent with 90 felonies and illegally trying to kick him off the ballot.

They cheated in 2020 and trying to throw everything including the kitchen sink at him again.

They know they could never beat MAGA fair and square.

Dirtbag Joe needs to be indicted for all of this Jan 2025.

Will he pardon the Junkie and himself (and his whole Dirtbag crime family) before hes run out of office?

[MarquisdeSade1]

"That before it was officially determined at the state level that the USA Constitution clearly states that anti-America insurrectionist traitors like Donald Trump are no more qualified and eligible to run for President and appear on a ballot for such than a 14 year old, a Russian National or a sea slug, Joe Biden was already beating him in the previously Mainstream Media-celebrated NYT / Sienna Poll and beating both DeSantis and Haley in the Ultra Winger-celebrated Harvard / Harris Poll:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Just sayin'. ".

On your electric vehicle (bike) and get to the nearest abortion provider, arent you overdue for another.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023...t-an-abortion/

More abortions = less Democrats in the future.