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  1. #8115

    Buffet's bet

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    So you buy a fund and hold it? Wait, didn't you say you buy low and sell huh?

    And what stocks do you own? Oh right, all of them.

    This is such a crock of shit you should be on CNBC or run for office as a Dem.

    https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/what...-it-2021-05-12

    The performance of the Nasdaq Composite is often compared with the S&P 500 and Dow Jones. After the Dot Com Bubble, from 2003-2020, Nasdaq outperformed the S&P 500 in 12 out of 18 years, and the Dow Jones 14 times. In the wake of the Great Recession, 2009-2020, Nasdaq outperformed the S&P 500 and Dow Jones ten times.

    So you did not buy that NASDAQ thing and have enough to retire in Thailand? LOL. Bullshit. You are on a government pension or sold your house and took advantage of California's bubbilicuous housing market..
    Seriously. Did you even read what you quoted from my post before you replied to it?

    Um, no I did "not" just buy and hold a fund. It's right there in your quote of mine.

    No, my "Nasdaq thing" was not whether or not I recommend anyone buy a fund tracking the Nasdaq. I have no idea where on earth you came up with that.

    The discussion was about whether or not the Nasdaq is a meangful measure for what the broad USA stock market is doing on a given hour, day, week, month, quarter or year. And it is not, as your link makes the case that, historically, the Nasdaq performance differs significantly from what was happening in the S&P 500, the DOW and I would certainly add the Wilshire 5000. By the end of the year, all three of those superior measures for the broad USA stock market are often fairly close to each other. But the Nasdaq can often be on another planet relative to those others, up or down.

    By the way, below is the report and results of that bet Buffett made. It was a wipe out in favor of Buffett's prediction. And that was a total no-brainer "buy and hold" Index fund strategy vs the professionally actively managed funds and portfolios, which, again, as you can see in your quote of my post, I did not do. Doing what I clearly stated I did (and what you quoted) produced even better results than the contest strategy Buffett employed that beat the snot out of the professionally actively managed portfolios:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...won/402823002/

  2. #8114

    Here go your evil GOPers trying to cheat again

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Perfect example of the twisted winger Repub mindset:

    When Dems produce record high or long economic growth, millions more jobs than multiple Repubs before and after them and record high stock market gains, they are "turds, doing everything wrong, the economy is tanking"!

    And when their beloved Repubs produce Great Depressions / Recessions, massive jobs destruction in the millions upon millions and Mega Bear Market Crashes, they are "my lord and savior, better than the Dems, the Best economy ever"!

    LOL. Hopeless to try to teach them otherwise. Quite deserving of that Sado-Masochist identity. I really don't give a shit about their Masochist tendencies. It's their Sadism they inflict on everyone else with their votes that is annoying.
    The GOPers are trying to destroy democracy again.

    Oops I misspelled Democrats.

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022...-a-fiasco.html

  3. #8113

    Difficult choice, but

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    I'm reading your musings here and honestly can't understand whether you're an evil prick or just illiterate ignoramus who has never read a single history book in his life.
    Go with "illiterate ignoramus. ".

    He actually just quoted me saying:
    However, in order to do even better, to beat the market, it will depend on if and when you buy and if and when you sell, right? That is what I did as well. I did not just "buy and hold. " I managed to accurately prognosticate a couple of market tops and market bottoms over the decades and shifted my money into a money market safe haven at or near the top, wait out the decline and bought back at or near the bottom.
    And replied with this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    So you buy a fund and hold it? Wait, didn't you say you buy low and sell huh?
    Uh, then he followed that with more incoherent winger Repub blather that further proved that even if he reads something, such as what he actually quoted from me, there is zero chance he'd understand what he read.

  4. #8112

    Very well stated

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    No, dummy! It's Chamberlain all over again. You are risking nuclear war by trying to appease a nuclear blackmailer. Give in and he's not going to stop at Ukraine. When are you morons going to learn?

    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl...189-story.html

    Oh yes, we do have a higher ground after all these wars compared to the unspeakable monstrosities he's committed in Ukraine, the country that has done absolutely nothing to deserve this shit. Fuck, compared to this, our higher ground would be so high indeed we wouldn't see anything but clouds below.

    I'm reading your musings here and honestly can't understand whether you're an evil prick or just illiterate ignoramus who has never read a single history book in his life.

    Not impossible, but unlikely. The next guy will likely be Patrushev, the FSB tsar, and while he is 100% evil, he's not a psycho. I like our chances.
    Tucker and his sheeple have been sucking up to Vlad for so long it's just too late to turn back and save face, regardless of the widespread war crimes, fundamental genocide, and what's ultimately at stake. Plus the world is a community. Isolationism though it sounds good doesn't function in practice. That's because evil exists, and if it's ignored or appeased it will grow and eventually deliver itself on your doorstep.

    P.S. It's interesting how far away many of these modern so called conservatives have wandered from Reagan. They'd do well to study his philosophy on foreign policy, are a number of solid publications out there.

  5. #8111
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    Never let poor trash near the levers of power, they will sell out their voters faster than you can blink (akin to allowing a heroin addict guard your heroin stash) case in point Biden and the southern border.

    Don't think he doesn't fully expect payment for that, how much per million of 3rd world rapists and murderers.

    2 million crossed in 2020.
    2 million crossed in 2020.

    Seems like that would be caused by TrumpShit.

    Now that MariMark is typing text (instead of just links from tin hat generals).

    There's lots of rewrites needed.

  6. #8110

    "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile—hoping it will eat him last" said Churchill

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    You are risking nuclear war, destroying the world economy, and for what?
    No, dummy! It's Chamberlain all over again. You are risking nuclear war by trying to appease a nuclear blackmailer. Give in and he's not going to stop at Ukraine. When are you morons going to learn?

    It is now, and has been, accepted since Adolf Hitler invaded Poland in 1939 that appeasement of sworn enemies and bullies doesn't work. They interpret it as a sure sign of weakness and vulnerability. It makes them swaggeringly surer of their strength and others' weakness and vulnerability.
    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl...189-story.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    He is an asshole fighting a stupid war just the USSR in Afghanistan and like us in Afghanistan, Vietnam, and Iraq. Do you really believe the USA had the high ground after those wars?
    Oh yes, we do have a higher ground after all these wars compared to the unspeakable monstrosities he's committed in Ukraine, the country that has done absolutely nothing to deserve this shit. Fuck, compared to this, our higher ground would be so high indeed we wouldn't see anything but clouds below.

    I'm reading your musings here and honestly can't understand whether you're an evil prick or just illiterate ignoramus who has never read a single history book in his life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    You get rid of Putin, and the next guy may be worse.
    Not impossible, but unlikely. The next guy will likely be Patrushev, the FSB tsar, and while he is 100% evil, he's not a psycho. I like our chances.

  7. #8109
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    The latter is what the fund I have owned, bought and sold for decades tracks. The Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund. Well, I tend to rebalance that one at about 90% of my equity holdings with a Global Equity Fund at about 10%.

    There has been little reason to take individual stock risks over the decades in order to do well in the market and numerous studies have shown it is a superior way to win in the market for most investors anyway. Unless you just enjoy researching, speculating and working on it every day or week, in and out and all that stuff. I don't. But name a stock, yeah, I own it too.

    Naturally, as anyone would know, a simple "buy and hold" strategy of such a fund can only match the market, minus a fraction of 1% for fees and such, which historically is still quite good and still beats the majority of actively managed funds and portfolios with no effort at all.

    However, in order to do even better, to beat the market, it will depend on if and when you buy and if and when you sell, right? That is what I did as well. I did not just "buy and hold. " I managed to accurately prognosticate a couple of market tops and market bottoms over the decades and shifted my money into a money market safe haven at or near the top, wait out the decline and bought back in at or near the bottom.
    So you buy a fund and hold it? Wait, didn't you say you buy low and sell huh?

    And what stocks do you own? Oh right, all of them.

    This is such a crock of shit you should be on CNBC or run for office as a Dem.

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    On the Nasdaq thing, I'm sure even you must be able to figure out an index is not useful as a meaningful measure of the total USA stock market just because it has some big stocks in it. In fact, the more narrow the index and bigger the stocks in it, the least useful for that purpose it is likely to be. But it is a fine measure for how those particular big stocks are doing on an hourly basis. If that matters to you.
    https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/what...-it-2021-05-12

    The performance of the Nasdaq Composite is often compared with the S&P 500 and Dow Jones. After the Dot Com Bubble, from 2003-2020, Nasdaq outperformed the S&P 500 in 12 out of 18 years, and the Dow Jones 14 times. In the wake of the Great Recession, 2009-2020, Nasdaq outperformed the S&P 500 and Dow Jones ten times.

    So you did not buy that NASDAQ thing and have enough to retire in Thailand? LOL. Bullshit. You are on a government pension or sold your house and took advantage of California's bubbilicuous housing market.

    You do not know squat about the stock market, and you are not investing in Biden. You are a hypocrite who is not putting his money where his mouth is.

    Biden is destroying the economy. I do not like it, but I am going to profit from it. I have bought the names I mentioned SDOW, SPXU, and SQQQ two weeks ago, and they are up 20%. These things have the potential to triple and with Biden in office, the potential to go up 10 X.

    It is sad, but this is the closest thing to a sure thing as I have seen in a decade. The last time I made a bet was on DTO a double short on oil when oil was $100 a barrel and the USA kept increasing production while the street was talking peak oil.

    When you have inflation, you cut spending and Biden is spending like a drunken sailor.

  8. #8108

    So what would you do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Of course, he is a world leader you dummy. His country has veto power in the UN. How stupid can you be?

    And you have not learn a fucking thing. Did getting rid of the Taliban make things better? Nope, wasted billions. Saddam Hussein? Nope although the standard of living in Iraq is finally coming close to when Saddam Hussein in charge. Libya? Nope way worse. Syria? Billions more wasted. Ukraine? Billions in aid. For what? Peace or continued conflict?

    You are risking nuclear war, destroying the world economy, and for what? Because you do not like a dictator in a foreign country. How does that affect you?

    He is an asshole fighting a stupid war just the USSR in Afghanistan and like us in Afghanistan, Vietnam, and Iraq. Do you really believe the USA had the high ground after those wars? That you morons want to risk nuclear war for nothing tells me how stupid you people really are.

    You get rid of Putin, and the next guy may be worse.
    So, what would you do? Give Ukraine to Putin just like Donnie would have done? Then give Putin Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia and Moldova too? And after that? Since the Soviet Union once occupied Poland, the Balkans, Hungary, Romania and half of Germany, give Putin those countries too? Geez, what an idiot! And a very typical rightwingnut idiot with enough IQ points to decorate a domino.

    Or, would you have just bombed the Russian troops before they even invaded?

    Typical Republican response. Complain, complain and complain some more without offering any concrete proposals. That the QOP playbook.

  9. #8107

    Correction

    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    Bubba Barry Hussein and Biden 3 fucking turds.

    They should never be trusted with power, they are all poor trash.

    And sold this country out for a few pennies.

    All 3 belong in the same cell so they can ass fuck each other for the next 30 yrs.

    Instead of fucking the American people.

    Case in point Bozo just gave Barry Hussein 100 million WTF how the fuk is that legal?

    Not for nothing I might add.

    But for being a good little uncle tom house slave, now sit in the corner and keep your mouth shut.

    Like the good little ***** he is!
    I typed next 30 yrs, I meant last 30 yrs!

  10. #8106

    OK lets hear it Bangkok Bob

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Perfect example of the twisted winger Repub mindset:

    When Dems produce record high or long economic growth, millions more jobs than multiple Repubs before and after them and record high stock market gains, they are "turds, doing everything wrong, the economy is tanking"!

    And when their beloved Repubs produce Great Depressions / Recessions, massive jobs destruction in the millions upon millions and Mega Bear Market Crashes, they are "my lord and savior, better than the Dems, the Best economy ever"!

    LOL. Hopeless to try to teach them otherwise. Quite deserving of that Sado-Masochist identity. I really don't give a shit about their Masochist tendencies. It's their Sadism they inflict on everyone else with their votes that is annoying.
    Why did Bozo which is worth 150+ billion just give Barry Hussein an unemployed loser from the hood on the south side of Chicago $100,000,000 usd for no reason at all?

    Hint its called payback, as was $60,000,000 usd from nextflix.

    How did Bubba get $150,000,000 usd in the bank after leaving the oval office homeless?

    Never let poor trash near the levers of power, they will sell out their voters faster than you can blink (akin to allowing a heroin addict guard your heroin stash) case in point Biden and the southern border.

    Don't think he doesn't fully expect payment for that, how much per million of 3rd world rapists and murderers.

    2 million crossed in 2020.

    Millions of jobs for whom? Illegal aliens? At slave wages.

    Hunger games for everyone else!!

    They want to turn the USA into a 3rd world like Mexico.

    With a taco cart on every corner.

    Or like that shithole LosAngeles you fled!!

  11. #8105
    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    What the fuck is wrong with wingnuts and their insane and completely illogical affection for that beast?

    Putin is not a "world leader". 20+ years in power have turned a deeply corrupt plutocrat into a delusional maniac. No, "all" will not be well, but the removal of this particular demon would almost immediately end the war and stop the threat of a nuclear holocaust.

    Morons will be morons.
    Of course, he is a world leader you dummy. His country has veto power in the UN. How stupid can you be?

    And you have not learn a fucking thing. Did getting rid of the Taliban make things better? Nope, wasted billions. Saddam Hussein? Nope although the standard of living in Iraq is finally coming close to when Saddam Hussein in charge. Libya? Nope way worse. Syria? Billions more wasted. Ukraine? Billions in aid. For what? Peace or continued conflict?

    You are risking nuclear war, destroying the world economy, and for what? Because you do not like a dictator in a foreign country. How does that affect you?

    He is an asshole fighting a stupid war just the USSR in Afghanistan and like us in Afghanistan, Vietnam, and Iraq. Do you really believe the USA had the high ground after those wars? That you morons want to risk nuclear war for nothing tells me how stupid you people really are.

    You get rid of Putin, and the next guy may be worse.

  12. #8104

    LOL. Perfect

    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    Bubba Barry Hussein and Biden 3 fucking turds.

    They should never be trusted with power, they are all poor trash.

    And sold this country out for a few pennies.

    All 3 belong in the same cell so they can ass fuck each other for the next 30 yrs.

    Instead of fucking the American people.

    Case in point Bozo just gave Barry Hussein 100 million WTF how the fuk is that legal?

    Not for nothing I might add.
    Perfect example of the twisted winger Repub mindset:

    When Dems produce record high or long economic growth, millions more jobs than multiple Repubs before and after them and record high stock market gains, they are "turds, doing everything wrong, the economy is tanking"!

    And when their beloved Repubs produce Great Depressions / Recessions, massive jobs destruction in the millions upon millions and Mega Bear Market Crashes, they are "my lord and savior, better than the Dems, the Best economy ever"!

    LOL. Hopeless to try to teach them otherwise. Quite deserving of that Sado-Masochist identity. I really don't give a shit about their Masochist tendencies. It's their Sadism they inflict on everyone else with their votes that is annoying.

  13. #8103
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    I do not need to wait. I know what their strategy is and how stupid it is. With the appointment of a disinformation Czar, Biden thinks if he can control the narrative, he can stop the bloodshed in the mid terms.

    The other strategy is getting Putin out. He thinks if he gets Putin out, all will be well. Sadly, that is how the Washington dummies all think. They make other world leaders into these demons and think by getting them out, everyone will cheer them. But getting these demons out usually changes nothing and often times makes things worse.
    What the fuck is wrong with wingnuts and their insane and completely illogical affection for that beast?

    Putin is not a "world leader". 20+ years in power have turned a deeply corrupt plutocrat into a delusional maniac. No, "all" will not be well, but the removal of this particular demon would almost immediately end the war and stop the threat of a nuclear holocaust.

    Morons will be morons.

  14. #8102
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    I do not need to wait. I know what their strategy is and how stupid it is. With the appointment of a disinformation Czar, Biden thinks if he can control the narrative, he can stop the bloodshed in the mid terms.

    The other strategy is getting Putin out. He thinks if he gets Putin out, all will be well. Sadly, that is how the Washington dummies all think. They make other world leaders into these demons and think by getting them out, everyone will cheer them. But getting these demons out usually changes nothing and often times makes things worse.

    I am reading headlines now about how to win a nuclear war which means Biden is putting defense contractors first and everyone else second. The defense contractors want a prolonged conflict and Putin is spending money to make sure there is one. Instead of pushing for an end to the war, Biden wants a conflict that drains Russia.

    I cannot think of a bigger waste of money than war and a dumber headline that winning a nuclear war.

    Biden is literally doing everything wrong economically. The only thing he has done positive to date was not push Russia into a nuclear conflict, but I am not sure how long even that will last.
    Biden and his Administration are using the war as excuse. We have no business being there. Ukraine was never going to get into NATO, the reason is a totally corrupt county, but are media leaves this detail out.

    I feel terrible for the people for both countries, but I have zero compassion for either government, plus they are dragging the world's economy down with. This is worst case scenario, minus a nuclear war, but judging from Russian performance I doubt that works properly.

  15. #8101
    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    This is crazy. Go to a gas station or grocery store and take poll there. Better yet go to a poor neighborhood, ask them how there lives have improved. I really doubt you will like what you here.

    I am hoping Biden and his crew get it together or better get someone in that can help them. Let's wait 3-6 months, unfortunately it is not looking good.
    https://sputniknews.com/20220430/rej...095159593.html

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